ImaGEEnat!On - I tried to get a hold on you to duke it out. Ah well maybe someday. If mageenation doesn\'t come through on the tag, I\'ll join yaw\'ll if you\'ll have me.

ImaGEEnat!On - I tried to get a hold on you to duke it out. Ah well maybe someday. If mageenation doesn\'t come through on the tag, I\'ll join yaw\'ll if you\'ll have me.

Guys, firstly...nice battle! Very solid! Rtv!, I got 2 days free...I can try squeeze in as much stuff into creating the comic...so it\'s between, Nameless and Dreadnaut VS Rtv! and Asian Bloke then...let me know mang...I\'m ready.

oh you mothafukkers. THESE are what the old days of Void looked like. Short stories and a series of ass beating.

NJ
I like how you did the narration for Dred, it reminds me of me without the melodrama. The pencils are slick and detailed in the way i like. That panel where Dreds gets slammed out of the restauraunt was killer. However, it would really jump in ya face if you spread the debris/glass a bit more. Possibly in the corners of the panels? But that\'s just me with a Matrix preference. The follow up panel was beautiful, i could actually FEEL Dreds landing on the street.
I\'m almost jealous of the way you drew his arm transform into a blade. It actually displays motion in ONE panel...fukk you for that hahahahaha.
i wish there was one more page though. I don\'t care too much for climax cuz i\'m still used to the old Void days where the battle ended when the opponent was pwned.
Now i REALLy want that re-match of the match that never happened between us. Hope to see that BB soon man, curious how you put the beating on Rtv.

Drawdan
you didn\'t have to exaggerate by disappearing for 3 years and then come back THIS awesome. That first panel got me hooked immediatly. It\'s what i had in mind when i was supposed to fight Jerry.
I love the shitty weather you chose to add drama to it.
I like the fact that Dreds gets some
asskicking from Mike and was actually gonna lose if Nameless didn\'t step in there. Excellent twist.
That panel where Nameless lands behind Dreds looks kinda awkward in pose, but i get the idea.
Some of the angles you picked inspired me to get back to that.

Me and Imgeenation are a bit crowded in shit at the moment, but we seriously want to take you on for that tag match.
Aside from that, in my mind this battle is already a classic.

Hmm, I\'ve actually tried 2b and it\'s not that great. there\'s that not-so-good-looking \"grain\" effect the \"B\" pencils leave.

But I\'d like to know what you two think about it^^I\'m a wannabe penciler and wish to know you work best ;3

More Dan, more Nameless, more penciling, Final Destination....

One thing that i gotta ask you both, is it possible to go and add some 8b dark areas when doing a penciling? But without breaking the main lines. Looking at those Disney storyboards, they go all around with the shades, even European penciling goes all out with the tones, yet A-LOT of the line work is lost. I haven\'t really seen any of that in American comic penciling. What do you guys think?

Pi - I understand what you\'re saying, but I\'m a penciler mostly and that\'s what I like to work on. I think inking is easy, albeit tedious. Coloring is fine and I\'m sure I can do it, but, in my mind I have some things I need to improve upon in my draftmanship and storytelling. I know my stuff seems lackluster perhaps, but I\'m just going to say this: I\'m knocking off some rust, will be competing more often, and am very much a competitor. I appreciate the comments from all of you, please, keep them coming...soon you guys will see evidence of my effort.

this battle took up right where the last one left off..Dreds has just left the warehouse from the abroa battle where he made friends with a monkey that he let out of a cage. He was on his shoulder when abroa fell threw the glass window. |I kept him with dreds in this battle to try and elude that he just left the warehouse. Guess it didnt work in your case,..but its all good. Plus, i liked the idea of the monkey with dreds when things are all cool but he rolled out when he got attacked. Not the most faithfull animal companion, but cute none the less.

Don\'t have too much time to go in-depth, but here\'s what I see.

Njhinesjr (How are we supposed to pronounce your handle?!) - You\'ve got skills, and we can all see that, for sure. But I\'d like to see you spend some time on doing inks to really make the professionalism of your work come through more. I don\'t know if you\'re looking just to do pencils for the rest of your life or what, but I know you can do inks and colors when you want to. You had four weeks to do this, and you did five pages, which isn\'t to say that it\'s not enough effort, but I stand by my desire to see you develop other areas of your art. Inks, tones, colors, etc. Broaden those horizons, friend.

Dan - I love the continuing story arc you\'ve got going, I may have to break into it myself one of these days. It seems like you didn\'t finish this one as much as your last battles, but I do like your pencil work. I don\'t quite get the monkey in the alley, but it\'s cool, I guess.

Keep up the good work from both you guys.

good job NJ. I loved the gunslinger feel of your story.

Drawdan. Nice flow and plot developement.

nice work guys. clean pencil work in both battles.

hines, i love your line work & your anatomy & action scenes are spot on, but yeah like everyone else is saying, darken the contrast. i like your stuff but i\'m convinced it\'s a conspiracy to give me eyestrain. even if you don\'t want to ink, add like a darker pencil line around an outline, fuck with the levels & contrast in photoshop... just SOMETHING! haha other than that, there were a couple of things with the lettering that kind of irked me. just like it squashing & stretching in bits & not staying consistent, few typos, etc; just some things to be mindful off.

dan, you edged out my vote because not only was the art good, there was a good story to go with it. i\'d just say to keep mindful with the consistency of anatomy & perspective. it\'s cool to move a camera around in a battle scene like that, but everything else should still jive with it.

-J

Cool idea..I do have cool plans for Dreds archvillian, I want to build him up as the evil mastermind with his fingers in everything from buisness fianance and security, to politics.Although he is currently using advanced robotics as his frontline soldiers, he is preparing to launch a wave of bio mechanical drones/clones that will acually be imprinted with memory ingrams of their doubles taken from their DNA. Fun stuff....

I would be interesting to see Gepetto\'s bots get turned into a armageddon or battle royal. Basically all of the clone-bots getting released onto the city... running around attacking every.

The real nice thing about it is that almost everyone could at least do their own beyond battle dealing with their own clone. While you could still have a main battle dealing with the over all issue... kind of like one of DC or Mavel crisis/civil war storylines, were every title touch on it, but you have the main story as well.

no worries dude, typos happen. I still understood the basic message, it\'s just something to watch for in the future

These are both really good D:

So I\'m just going to say awesome job to both of you, the quality was great on both battles :3
I did find the entertainment to be just a little bit better in Drawdan\'s comic though.

Keep up the great work guys!

I will admit the last page was a quicky, cause I added it in after I made some revisions to the overall plot. I wanted tie this fight in with michael 22 but didnt want to default doing it,  so I tried to be a little creative with photoshop. As far as the inks go phil..I agree. I like the pencil look but this was more of an experiment more than anything. I like to mix up style and finish. I noticed thetypo after I submitted it ang....my  bad. I didnt run it past my editor (my wife) before submitting. Thx for the input all./

I will admit the last page was a quicky, cause I added it in after I made some revisions to the overall plot. I wanted tie this fight in with michael 22 but didnt want to default doing it,  so I tried to be a little creative with photoshop. As far as the inks go phil..I agree. I like the pencil look but this was more of an experiment more than anything. I like to mix up style and finish. I noticed thetypo after I submitted it ang....my  bad. I didnt run it past my editor (my wife) before submitting. Thx for the input all./

Not bad guys.

Njhinesjr: God your name is hard to spell... Anywho, not bad in the least dude, spot on anatomy, and the pencils are clean enough that they don\'t need to be inked. HOWEVER! The story was weak dude, I\'m not saying you need more pages, but damn, you could of given Dreadnaut more credit as a fighter dude. Let him land a punch or two, I know Nameless is pretty scary as a fighter and all with his history, but you gotta spice up some things. Don\'t make him samurai superman now OK? Let somebody get in a lucky hit to show your fighter isn\'t perfect OK? ;3

Drawdan: Quality wise, I would of liked to see you ink this and not have to copy and paste Nameless\' face like in the last page. Story for this is looking good so far, I saw my fighter in there so now I\'m curious about what happens next.




Both very good, but I\'m giving the nod to Drawdan on this one, granted my vote was very very close.

Wouh^^ enjoyed both battles.

I don\'t feel like I should comment cause I haven\'t entered yet and find I\'m in a bad spot to do so, but there\'s just one thing I want to say to Njhinesjr: It\'s the lightness of your pencils, not really confusing but it forces the eye a lot.

That\'s all.

Njhinesjr-your pencils are very lovely and you have some very solid action. It might have helped to adjust the levels in Photoshop to make your pencils a little darker, they were occasionally too light for my monitor, the backgrounds were especially light. I would love to see you push your story a little more, I\'ve read all your battles and still don\'t have a really strong grasp for who Nameless is. I did feel as if those top 3 panels on the last page made things a little cluttered, but other than that your layouts were pretty strong. Really enjoyed your battle so keep it up dude

Drawdan-It was nice seeing you try something different technique wise, your pencils are pretty close to your inks quality wise. I did enjoy your battle a bit more than Njhinesjr\'s story wise as it was easier for me to get into. I do however think you should proof read your comics a little more closely since I spotted some odd typos that killed the flow of the text. I think the only page that really bothered me was the last one since it seemed kind of lazy XD But other than that I felt it was a pretty strong comic.

Great job guys, I enjoyed both halves quite a bit

The two of you are very close in quality, I give Nameless a bit more of a nod there simply because his work is tighter then Dreds. But I really enjoyed Dreds story a lot more and gave stronger points for that.

Nameless, your work really stands out. You have a great rendering ability. Dan has already pointed out one of the few crits of your artwork… that one panel with Dreds being blasted back just looks a bit off… for me it’s the width of Dreds back that makes it look off.

Dreds another strong entry, as Nameless said you need to still work on your foreshortening and there were some anatomy issues here and there. I do like very much the subplot that you are running through all of your fights right now. I also like the creative way you worked it into this battle, while at the same time foreshadowing the possibility of endless other clone-bots at Gepetto’s disposal. The monkey was a nice touch as well...

Great battle the both of you!

Drawdan, I must admit that the story concept you came up with wasn\'t half bad. I like the twist in the latter pages, thumbs up. Overall I thought you turned in a good effort. There were some anatomy issues, however, throughout. Some of the foreshortening seemed to be off consistently. Fix some of those issues with that and you\'ll be extremely tough. Good battle. We might have to get that tag match going sooner or later. RTV! has expressed interest in it. Thanks for the challenge....I needed the workout. I\'ve been away from the table for months and a tough challenge is what the doctor ordered.

I take it back, it looks like you only missed the pads in one panel...my bad.

Nice work NJ... My fav scene was the panel where you showed the blade/arm transformation. VERY nicely done. Your anatomy is very classic and real strong. The only panel where something seemed off to me was the back shot of Dreds being thrown out of the window. The forshortning or something just seemed off there. But that is a challenging shot to try and render. The story was a little week in my opinion. Only because though I would count Kappa as a friend, I dont think theres anything in Dreds bio or former battles that would suggest I would seek vengence for a fight he lost that has nothing to do with me. The only other fighter Dreds has any real close affiliation with was Jerrys old fighter, Mr. Impossiable, who is currently retired. Dreds would go after someone that hurt his family, but thats about it. I would have enjoyed a little more back and forth as well. I dodge and a kick seemed a little anticlimactic but thats mostly beacause I really enjoy your draftsmanship and action art and I was wanting for some more action past page five. You drew dreds real well accept you forgot the pads on his shoulders. I think that our characters are overall similar and would deff. be up for some collab battles in the future. Dreds and Nameless would make a powerful team. Nameless is an awesome fighter and I really had a good time drawing him. Good work!!!

Same here..i posted them thursday night. Looking forward to seeing them together.

My pages were uploaded last night. Hopefully, we can see the battles soon.

\"The WORLD! Time freezes!\"

the anxiety is killing me. Two titans going at eachother.
Don\'t mind me i\'m pretending i didn\'t read that shit about a handicap match, you lousy conspiracy artists!
Man o man, this is gonna be great.

Nj i\'m also looking forward to that fight you did against me. I\'m currently working on it too. When you\'re gonna post it hit me a message and i\'ll upload mine at the same time, that way we both win and nobody defaults .

Cool.. I was done with my battle..but now I can go in there and throw in a little somethin extra!

extension granted....both artists receive one week extra

Go for it.

Hey NJ..if you plan on pencils only like you usually do, I think Im gonna try the same thing.

man i cant wait.

i usually dig nameless comics & after that last drednaut story, i\'m eager to see this battle! good luck guys!

-J

worry not Drednaut is on the rampage..the only thing thats gonna slow him down affter this battle is a possiable SDT entry..

damn I hope you both have a little steam left in you after this... I want you guys in my storyline, i\'m taking down Void and you both need to be there!!!!!

Handicap, jeez this just gets more and more interesting

ewww......I Like It!!

I think after this battle Drawdan, it should be a handicap match with Nameless and Drednaut Vs. RTV!, heh.

im just warming up for ya Rtv..SHAKE N\' BAKE baby!!

Oh boy!  Two of my opponents fighting eachother. ORGY!!

That was quick. Thanks for being game Drawdan. I have a beyond battle to finish and then I\'ll focus on this.

I\'m looking forward to this! I\'ll battle the winner or the loser, it\'s all good! You guys got my attention for sure! Let\'s do this fellas!

Thx for the challenge Njh, Nameless is gonna be fun to draw..