Ksoczhinsepiodoenr: Aw, this is a nice conclusion! I was expecting a dour ending, but seeing Mimi finally get something pleasant is super satisfying. This comic might be less visually complex than the previous ones page per page, but dang, you shouldn't be expected to go that hard in the first place, it's still super impressive. I figured something was up in that first page with how the bubble covered up Mimi, but I assumed that had more thematic purpose, like maybe Maddie was more lost in her ideas of her parents than the real thing, but nah there was a whole fun twist :0 In the nitpick section, I was thrown off by a couple of things, specifically what happens between pg22 panels 3 and 4. Overall though, very well-crafted comic! Highlight is obviously far and above the conversation on page 4, that's just some good classic Schneider dialogue.
Cbyaddogrekr: This is also a fun ending, as much as it is engineered to be unsatisfying. You did a really good job of viscerally depicting how mentally detached Todd was from his actions here (even if I think pg7 panel 6 really ought to have been much larger, so it feels like there's enough time spent for a whole story). And all the gooey monster stuff is primo too, obviously. I gotta laugh at demon dude's catch-22, though, it's obviously just being a dick to Todd for fun at this point. Great work!
Lovechild Tournament 2021, Final Round / Maddie the Mule vs. Todd
Critiques & Comments
# 16
Posted:
Apr 29 2021, 02:17 PM
# 14
Posted:
Apr 29 2021, 08:49 AM
Splitting up the crits so I don't run out of characters or something
# 13
Posted:
Apr 29 2021, 08:29 AM
Gonna split up these crits because they might be long haha
# 12
Posted:
Apr 26 2021, 09:47 PM
jesus how do i crit these, they were both so FANTASTIC
shneiderspoon: as always, AMAZING gesture and expression, beautiful composition. this one tho felt a little sparse this time artwise- backgrounds, shading, spotblacks, it was kinda give and take. Demon Todd was awesome- i loved him cracking hsi neck back into place, and the smoke from his mouth. Vanya's death had less impact than i thought it would given how shes been built up this whole tourney- offscreen death and then a throwaway line. Todd's ending, though, was WONDERFUL. Bittersweet, the best he could hope for. Poor Maddie though, she wasnt even real.... maybe now that Mimi and Clyde are reunited, they can MAKE her real <3
BADCY: oh my GOD Todd breaks my heart why is everything so HARD for him! The colours in this were GORGEOUS, god, so INTENSE you could just FEEL his anguish, and that decision he had to make? CRUEL. I hope he can find a new way to life his curse, somewhere in the world. I also cant get over his expressions- just how DONE he is. Even picking Maddie up at the park like "it may as well be this, too." Comparatively, though, your 'toon' style work was a little lacking. Since theres so few details on 'toon' characters they need to have really big movements and expression, and that didnt come across super well... though its hard to fit a toon into a story like this, i grant. I wish poor Todd the very best. Come see Auntie Lily, she'll help you out~ =P
EXCELLENT TOURNAMENT, BEAUTIFUL COMICS, YOU GUYS DID AMAZING! IM SO HAPPY!!
shneiderspoon: as always, AMAZING gesture and expression, beautiful composition. this one tho felt a little sparse this time artwise- backgrounds, shading, spotblacks, it was kinda give and take. Demon Todd was awesome- i loved him cracking hsi neck back into place, and the smoke from his mouth. Vanya's death had less impact than i thought it would given how shes been built up this whole tourney- offscreen death and then a throwaway line. Todd's ending, though, was WONDERFUL. Bittersweet, the best he could hope for. Poor Maddie though, she wasnt even real.... maybe now that Mimi and Clyde are reunited, they can MAKE her real <3
BADCY: oh my GOD Todd breaks my heart why is everything so HARD for him! The colours in this were GORGEOUS, god, so INTENSE you could just FEEL his anguish, and that decision he had to make? CRUEL. I hope he can find a new way to life his curse, somewhere in the world. I also cant get over his expressions- just how DONE he is. Even picking Maddie up at the park like "it may as well be this, too." Comparatively, though, your 'toon' style work was a little lacking. Since theres so few details on 'toon' characters they need to have really big movements and expression, and that didnt come across super well... though its hard to fit a toon into a story like this, i grant. I wish poor Todd the very best. Come see Auntie Lily, she'll help you out~ =P
EXCELLENT TOURNAMENT, BEAUTIFUL COMICS, YOU GUYS DID AMAZING! IM SO HAPPY!!
# 11
Posted:
Apr 26 2021, 01:15 PM
First off- Congrats to both teams for making such stellar comics for this tournament!
Kozi & Schneider - I really loved Maddie's entire story and that her parents were prevalent throughout the tournament. You gave so many characters intricate stories that weaved throughout your rounds that made it even more tragic when Todd was killed at the end in this round (I also loved the hellbound line, I'm just a sucker for cheese). I also thought it was really clever to make Maddie a wish the way you both did, I definitely didn't see that coming! The art was absolutely lovely to look at, but the story is what really wrenched my heart.
Badger & Cy - Your rounds were really fun to read, and your art styles come together in a beautiful way! I like that Todd ultimately gave up his chance at reversing his curse, it reflects his personality as someone who doesn't -truly- want to hurt people and is forced into his position. The portrayals of the characters throughout your rounds was very well done and really fit the stories told!
Kozi & Schneider - I really loved Maddie's entire story and that her parents were prevalent throughout the tournament. You gave so many characters intricate stories that weaved throughout your rounds that made it even more tragic when Todd was killed at the end in this round (I also loved the hellbound line, I'm just a sucker for cheese). I also thought it was really clever to make Maddie a wish the way you both did, I definitely didn't see that coming! The art was absolutely lovely to look at, but the story is what really wrenched my heart.
Badger & Cy - Your rounds were really fun to read, and your art styles come together in a beautiful way! I like that Todd ultimately gave up his chance at reversing his curse, it reflects his personality as someone who doesn't -truly- want to hurt people and is forced into his position. The portrayals of the characters throughout your rounds was very well done and really fit the stories told!
# 10
Posted:
Apr 25 2021, 10:54 PM
This was a fantastic comic and both of these sides in the finale are fantastic, the quality of art on this site is always amazing and inspiring.
# 9
Posted:
Apr 25 2021, 02:26 PM
oooh boy here we go again.
well this final round certainly delivered, however, one entry managed to surprise me by its intensity...
The other kind of let me down.
Kozi and Schneider, as usual, baffling amount of page, solid narration, solid art.
But I have a problem. The story is not about Maddie. The whole tournament from your side isn't really about Maddie. It's about Mimi and Clyde finally reuniting. And Maddie got the Petey Peyote deal. In fact I knew it would end like with Petey Peyote when the inkwell came in.
The character we were supposed to root for, for her survival, in the end, didn't matter, she didn't exist. I understand it's your own way to subvert our expectation here, but it also defeat the purpose of the tournament.
I felt like the story was more like a long elaborate way to reunite Clyde and Mimi.
Also the revelation of how Maddie came to me suddenly reminded me of a certain character from a popular tale who at one point also was sporting donkey ears and tail... hmmmmm
Maddie= Pinnochio? Where's jiminey the cricket?
As for Todd... Oh boy was it dark! The tension could be felt early on. It's a violent, cruel tale you told us, and it had such an impact, the corruption of stood and his dive with no return in the rabbit hole.
We constantly joked about baby killing on the discord server, but here, it's an actual child getting killed. It's cruel, unfair, and in the end, didn't change anything for Todd. Worst, the consequences of his actions will now forever haunt him.
well this final round certainly delivered, however, one entry managed to surprise me by its intensity...
The other kind of let me down.
Kozi and Schneider, as usual, baffling amount of page, solid narration, solid art.
But I have a problem. The story is not about Maddie. The whole tournament from your side isn't really about Maddie. It's about Mimi and Clyde finally reuniting. And Maddie got the Petey Peyote deal. In fact I knew it would end like with Petey Peyote when the inkwell came in.
The character we were supposed to root for, for her survival, in the end, didn't matter, she didn't exist. I understand it's your own way to subvert our expectation here, but it also defeat the purpose of the tournament.
I felt like the story was more like a long elaborate way to reunite Clyde and Mimi.
Also the revelation of how Maddie came to me suddenly reminded me of a certain character from a popular tale who at one point also was sporting donkey ears and tail... hmmmmm
Maddie= Pinnochio? Where's jiminey the cricket?
As for Todd... Oh boy was it dark! The tension could be felt early on. It's a violent, cruel tale you told us, and it had such an impact, the corruption of stood and his dive with no return in the rabbit hole.
We constantly joked about baby killing on the discord server, but here, it's an actual child getting killed. It's cruel, unfair, and in the end, didn't change anything for Todd. Worst, the consequences of his actions will now forever haunt him.
# 8
Posted:
Apr 24 2021, 07:42 PM
Both sides:"I Guess fuck your feelings hella"
In all seriousness. This lived up to the hype. Lovebab tournaments bring out some next level stuff, damn.
In all seriousness. This lived up to the hype. Lovebab tournaments bring out some next level stuff, damn.
# 7
Posted:
Apr 24 2021, 05:18 AM
Both teams have done a remarkable job in this tourney, really inspiring stuff- congrats on making it to the very end! I hope it's ok if I split my comments up, I need to process Maddie's side a bit more. xD
Todd
GOD DAMN IT, I WASN'T PREPARED. I have a lot to say but let me attempt to be concise here
WRITING. Cy, you killed it. Great job.
ART
<3
CRITS
There was very little wrong with this comic but here are a few minor things.
Todd
GOD DAMN IT, I WASN'T PREPARED. I have a lot to say but let me attempt to be concise here
WRITING. Cy, you killed it. Great job.
ART
<3
CRITS
There was very little wrong with this comic but here are a few minor things.
# 6
Posted:
Apr 24 2021, 01:10 AM
I need to lay down after reading these. My heart can only handle so much.
# 5
Posted:
Apr 9 2021, 11:40 PM
I MEANT WE'RE GONNA DIE IM SCARED
# 4
Posted:
Apr 9 2021, 10:14 PM
Let's see these babies fight!
# 3
Posted:
Apr 9 2021, 09:47 PM
there are two kinds of sportsmanship
# 2
Posted:
Apr 9 2021, 03:39 PM
Time to fucking die
# 1
Posted:
Apr 9 2021, 08:29 AM
Good luck!
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Maddie- This was really great! Lots of twists and turns, you certainly kept me guessing.
Misc stuff I loved.
+ I'll echo Jade's points about Maddie feels more present in this round. I love her so much ;_;
+ My favorite aspect of this story was how your Portrayed Todd, it was SO impressive how full and satisfying his appearance & eventual death felt. A special shout of to the scene where he cracked his neck, that was badass.
+ Whilst the art is slightly less polished, considering the mammoth task you two gave yourselves over this tourney, it's still high quality with some genuinely striking imagery. The Wish reveal in the inkwell comes to mind.
+ On the second reading I really warmed to Mimi's appearance, I thought you portrayed her past struggles very well, the writing in those scenes was so thoughtful and really captured her emotions.
+ A wonderfully bittersweet happy ending.
cheeky crit
TL;DR story was promising & interesting but felt both bloated and underdeveloped due to the constraints of making it in a tournament. I think things should have been cut to give the story more focus.
I just want to preface this by saying I think you both told your chosen story as well as you could have considering the limitations of a tournament/ 2 weeks to make a 30+ page comic is actually insane. That being said, sometimes less is more.
For me where Team Todd had the edge was the simplicity of their tale, Todd was introduced and had a very straightforward but emotionally engaging, fascinating path to go on, it suited this format better.
Having Maddie's tale be wrapped around two characters who a lot of readers aren't familiar with was a big handicap- then throwing in story arcs for side characters like Vanya/ the anti-toon/ post-Apoc setting just added to the weight of this comic. As a result, it felt like it lacked some focus. There's a lot going on here!
All of these moving parts paired with the large cast made me wish this was a long series of BBs that really fleshed everything out fully.
All in all, a very impressive comic, a charming character and a fantastic duo. Congrats on making it to the end I hope you both got plenty of rest after this.