Anya vs. Vinca Pervinca

Anya vs. Vinca Pervinca

Anya vs. Vinca Pervinca

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# 30   Posted: Oct 16 2008, 02:56 PM
I\'m rather pleased to say that this is the first comic-battle I\'ve ever voted on. :)
I love the amount of color you used, Deji - I\'ve seen your stuff on deviantART and it always manages to be very cute.
Dure, I love - contrariwise - your lack of color. Your art is very realistic and I like that. Also, your character Willhelm reminds me of my Mamoru (hopefully coming soon).
Fantastic job to you both~!


# 29   Posted: Oct 15 2008, 06:40 PM
Anya by Duredhel  - omg if i can do art like that T_T... beautiful....

Vinca Pervinca by Dejichan  - holy shit...ending....magnificent...^_^

PS-message to void....I am uploading my character....Today ~_~ muahahahahahaha...please don\'t hurt meh ^_^

# 28   Posted: Oct 15 2008, 10:07 AM
@Luni:  For me it\'s just underwear *shrugs* But if it\'s illegal over there and you find it distasteul, I avoid drawing that in the future. I also would have liked a coloring job like that on all my pages... I should organize my time better Dx;
thanks for the feedback =3

@Squid: Actually... the pantyshot asn\'t originally there in the thumbnails or the script. I just drew it in a whim in the last minute ^^; I should think about those things more insteda of just throwing things in mindlessly.
I\'m glad you liked my colors there, thou ^___^

# 27   Posted: Oct 14 2008, 08:12 AM
You know you\'ve done a good job when someone who is completely unfamiliar with the involved characters can still enjoy the comic...

yeah, but I thought the pantyshot was really awkward. I only mention it because I felt that  it really threw the nice pace you had going without serving much of a purpose.
Still, I like Deji\'s side more, because it is so colorful :D

# 26   Posted: Oct 13 2008, 10:00 PM
Dure, I love how you work with limited colors. It comes out SO dramatic. As angie stated though, watch incase the characters blend into the background.  (I rly just agree on what she said... I don\'t feel like repeating it just to sound witty for the sake of it...) Either way, I loved seeing you use this character. Good job.

Vinca!! Vinca.. I love your art, but... you can get into trouble for drawing 15 year olds pantyshots. (no rly... you can.) I\'ve mentioned this to you before, AND- if she was old enough, I wouldn\'t give two shits (I\'ve been guilty of doing fan service) but naw... no no!

I would\'ve liked to see the same quality from your cover there. The story moved a bit fast, but it was overall pretty cute at parts. I\'m just happy to see you back on Void.

Good job you two.

(Sorry vinca)

# 25   Posted: Oct 13 2008, 05:02 PM
beautiful art from the both of you and interesting stories =]

# 24   Posted: Oct 13 2008, 04:03 PM
with the color, I see that you had a little bit of blue in it, I think it would have been better if you let a little more of the blue to show through, it would have been a more advanced pallete.  I see the perspective now, but a lot of times I guess you didn\'t use a ruler. I can tell some effort was put into finding the perspective but its about 3 steps away from being perfect.

# 23   Posted: Oct 13 2008, 03:15 PM
@michaelharris: Actually almost all of it was done with perspective grids with one or two exceptions towards the end. Also ^^ the color scheme was kind of monochromatic/sepia toned.. adding more colors would\'ve defeated the purpose. As for the story aspect, I guess its personal preference rather than genre conventions, I like foreshadowing, setup and char development,  some people don\'t.

@Angie: Thanks for the feedback :3 it seems this style of monochromatic coloring works. I\'ll try to work with contrasts in my next battle so stuff doesn\'t meld together as much. As for the sfx, I intended to do the sfx when penciling... but I sorta forgot >_< *hides*

# 22   Posted: Oct 13 2008, 11:33 AM
I can\'t comment much on the \"magic symbol\" thing, since that\'s dure\'s plot, not mine ^^; Vinca only overlaps with it in some points.
Now, I actually enjoy reading comcis with people talking calmly, as long as it\'s not terribly boring. Vinca and Anya have a relationship of two normal girls, so including action stuff on this battle was pointless, at least to what I want to do with Vinca\'s story. Maybe I\'m just not too effective at portraying those normal interaction in a not-so-boring way. I think i\'m getting too used to Visual Novels and Dating sims with endless talking ^^; I\'ll try to improve that in that area in the future.
thanks for the feedback =3

@Angie: I wanted to do the same coloring treatment to all the pages... but failed.
I actually tried to move the camera more than I normally would, but I guess I was using the same plane shot anyway over and over again... I\'ll try to avoid repeating bust-shots and close ups in the future Dx;
My idea was that since Anya was running away from the Orph, she\'d be happy to find somebody that was on the same boat.... it was stili a bit OOC, thou.
I must admit I didn\'t think the script too much after writing it. Dure did some edits to his half while writting the dialogs, but I pretty much didn\'t touch our original script... maybe I should have done it ^^; I need more practice on the writting/pace department
Thanks a lot for the feedback ^^

# 21   Posted: Oct 13 2008, 10:52 AM
Dure-I have to second that this kind of coloring worked really well, I think your colors are much stronger when you\'re working with a more limited palette. Be careful though because occasionally the characters blended into the background because they had very similiar tones, like the \"!\" Akantha on page 4. I\'m really thinking with sound effects, you would have better luck by hand drawing them. Like on page 5 with that big sound effect you probably could have done something pretty sweat to incorporate the sound effect into the composition had you done it by hand. Obviously the quality fell as the comic went on but I know your reasoning so I\'m not going to get on you about that.

Deji-While I was a little disappointed the whole thing didn\'t look like the cover, you still managed to have fairly good quality all throughout, finished coloring or not. You have some really nice expressions and interaction between the characters. But I would like to see you move your camera around a little more. I know it\'s hard to want to move it around when characters are interacting with one another, but doing so adds a little more to the pages. I think the only things that really bothered me story wise were why was Anya so quick to give Vinca her life story about running from the Orphanage? It just felt a little odd to me that she was an open book about her past to a stranger. I also think you could have ended the story either a little earlier or added on another page to really give Vinca\'s meeting with Willhem more purpose.

Other than that I enjoyed both comics, good job guys

# 20   Posted: Oct 13 2008, 10:06 AM
Dure, I really liked your art. I think it would have been better if you had actually laid down a perspective grid instead of just guessing at it. I liked your pallete but I think you should have added another color or two.

Deji, excellent characters, I think the backgrounds could have been a little better. I usually like at least on large establishing shot to get the placement of the room.

Both, um not to be mean, I have seen this anime before. The whole \"magic symbol\" thing is something I have seen a lot before.  I am not a huge fan of these types of anime stories anyway. The reason anime has long, static periods of backstory is because they are saving up money for the action sequences, not to enrich the story. When you do the same thing, you are essentially emulating a weakness in the media.

I went through some of the manga I own , and they never have ten pages of very static talking shots. THere are several ways to show backstory without being so static. Its a good idea to switch up the views and perspectives frequently, its an even better idea, just to do a flashback

# 19   Posted: Oct 13 2008, 07:39 AM
Thanks everybody!
I\'m glad you liked our little collab story that much and you appreciated both our efforts =D

Thanks =D!
As far as I know (Dure can correct me if I\'m wrong), Willhelm is pretty much blind half of the time and doesn\'t \"see\" things the way we do unless he makes a conscious effort. So... it\'s very likely he didn\'t see Vinca\'s panties while he was trying to get up and recovering from being interrupted in the middle of \"scanning\" the area.
About Mize, Vinca had a quick and blurry glimpse of him while she was passed out after the Itami battle, thou she doens\'t really remember it (she also saw Agito for a brief moment).

# 18   Posted: Oct 13 2008, 01:03 AM
Willhelm is hot. And cute in both sides ha ha

You guys made an awesome job, I can feel the improvement on both comics. Not much to say since it was a nice read, I just think mister Dure should stick with that style of cging for his comics, it\' totally rad and makes your sketch lines stand better than the b/w pages I\'ve seen from him.

All in all, very nice <3

# 17   Posted: Oct 12 2008, 09:49 PM
this is a fair match!!! I dunnoh who to root for!!!

# 16   Posted: Oct 12 2008, 08:47 PM
Como de costumbre, buenisímo JD.

Amazing Dejichan!

# 15   Posted: Oct 12 2008, 06:20 PM
oh and condolences to your family Dure.. im glad you got this up tho. art for me atleast always helps through rough times.

# 14   Posted: Oct 12 2008, 06:19 PM
this battle was great on both sides...

Dure your line work was on point as usual i like that you tried to make a very word heavy battle still be visually interesting. was a good and successful attempt. i liked the set up of the the relation of the two characters you both worked out.

Deji you did a great job as well the cover was awesome, also i really like yur color palette choices... really made the pages pop and gave all the characters a nice energy. the panty shot was funny...but thought the dude shoulda noticed. also was slightly confused cause i thought yur char met mize breifly at the WJ base or was she knocked out the whole time.. i cant remember fully.

# 13   Posted: Oct 12 2008, 12:01 AM
Completed and uploaded~

I didn\'t manage to make my usual \"excuses\" page, so I\'ll write all that here xD

It\'s been a year since my last battle and... I haven\'t improved as much due not drawing comics pretty much since then. My coloring has improved a lot, thou, but... My awfully bad time management didn\'t let me do a proper coloring job this time (as usual) ^^;

It was a pleasure to battle my dear friend Dure. I envy his drawing skills to no end and I\'m so sorry I couldn\'t battle him before due college and other stuff getting in the way.

I apologize now if I bore anybody to the point of wanting to kill themselves, if my rushed digital inking job makes people\'s eyes bleed,and for making Anya and Aja so OOC ( no matter how much Dure says they\'re ok).
It was really fun to do, thou, and I wish I could have done a better job (as usual).

I\'m off to sleep now, I\'m tired as hell Dx;

# 12   Posted: Oct 10 2008, 10:37 AM
SO anticipated for this!

# 11   Posted: Sep 26 2008, 11:30 PM
Esta va a estar buenisima! =D   Suerte Duredhel! Aguante Anya! =)
Good luck you too Dejichan! ^o^

# 10   Posted: Sep 19 2008, 01:13 AM
WOAH vinca is back!!

# 9   Posted: Sep 15 2008, 09:33 PM
Hey Deji!  It\'s good to see you again!  And it\'s awesome to see the both of you battling each other.  Good luck to the both of you!

# 8   Posted: Sep 15 2008, 10:13 AM
Bout time.

# 7   Posted: Sep 14 2008, 09:04 PM
i thought you\'d never be back, Deji! Can\'t wait to see how you\'ve improved.
oooooooh Dure, you\'re on a roll lately~ i just love seeing all your comics =U=

make this good!

# 6   Posted: Sep 14 2008, 08:39 AM
Kick everything BUTT her ass. Da purple booty is mine. Yum..
Good luck people.

# 5   Posted: Sep 14 2008, 03:25 AM
Can\'t wait to see how Vinca improved, came back one year later!

# 4   Posted: Sep 13 2008, 08:30 PM
Wow, Vinca\'s back!? I. Happy.

# 3   Posted: Sep 13 2008, 08:29 PM
Welcome back to the fray Deji! It\'s so good to see you back and active again. :3
Dure, hope you had a good warm up from BR so I\'m expecting some great stuff from you .
Good luck to you two!

# 2   Posted: Sep 13 2008, 07:01 PM
Yay finally!

# 1   Posted: Sep 13 2008, 06:18 PM
I can\'t wait........ D:

do you\'re best guys, I\'m lookin\' forward to this! :D

Comic Details -

Drawing Time: 4 weeks
Ended: Oct 18th, 2008
Votes Cast: 41
Page Views: 5485
Winner: Duredhel

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