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Art => GO FOR BROKE! => Topic started by: vanilla wafer on Aug 06, 2007, 11:56 AM
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EDIT: FOR GOD'S SAKE GO TO A LATER PAGE. THIS IS THREE YEARS OLD AND TERRIBLY OUTDATED.
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trying out pixel art.
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You're improving loads! Just a couple spots I noticed (I'd be more in-depth, but I'm short on time):
Hands are getting there, but the first pic's open hand has no palm.
Anatomy (shape): the second and third pics of the fawn-girl are pretty beefy compared to the first pic, and also because I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a girl. Second pic has exceptionally broad shoulders, and the third pic does as well, but I'm more concerned about the third's big arms.
Little stuff, really, you're doing quite well!
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That first pic is phenomenally better than anything I've seen you do so far. The lines and shading are cleaner, the anatomy is better, and the pose is more engaging and dynamic. Can you incorporate some of these things into your pen-and-paper drawings? The only thing I notice immediately that is subpar is her hand, which, as Pi said, lacks the proper width to represent a palm.
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-Jesse
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Yech, hands. I'll keep working on them. x:
And some more.
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(the oldest, maybe a month or so? also pretty big, so I linked it.)
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(bad scan. He looked like a science teacher. : D)
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HAHa if it weren't for date rape I'd never get laid! The hand on your science teacjer looks fairly decent but the other one still looks like a blob. Have you dona any hand studies? If you have you should post them!
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when you get the anatomy sorted I may fall madly in love with your work.
I can tell you've been doing some anatomy skethcs because of the side profile picture, all I can say is just keep doing anatomy sketchs and then YAY you'll be awesome : D
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All I can say is I need to start saving up for a new scanner.
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And just something in a pchat (mine = girl on the left) that I like how it turned out, even though I got super-lazy near the bottom and totally fucked up the anatomy D:
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Just a few things.
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well good for you dear, you been paying attention in art class i take it?
keep at it kiddo!
WHEN YOU GONNA GRADUATE AND GO TO ART SCHOOL?
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I love the detail that's in the kitchen, but you've gotta keep things in perspective too. Just line up all the objects in boxes and make sure the horizon and vanishing points are consistent.
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Art school? Four years. Just gotta wait out high school :D
And thanks, Pi, I'll keep that in mind.
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comic practice, scanner made it all messy and bleedy though :/
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ahh man i remember doing the same thing in high school french. Describing my day but really i only cared about the cartoon. I remember my teacher was such a dolt that they corrected the conjugations and accents with a red pen right in the speech bubbles. i was so pissed.
glad to see you're still working on your skills, theres improvement but watch the perspective of the figures in the last panel, the figure on the left should be bigger and in the foreground, judging by how they're positioned
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wow homegurl! BIG improvement. For crits wise i would say just work on trees, clouds and smoke ;] ((yeah yeah i know they were rushed as i'm guessing you had to do that page quickly for school, but i'm just saying) and i agree with crimsonviper too with the last panel...unless shes ment to be further away then the girl next to her which means you should give the girl on the right darker lines around her to show the distance...i think angie has an example somewhere...yeah here it is http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8052/linearttutfw8.jpg
PS. I already like your style so get working on the small issues and then i will love your style.
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Are you serious about getting better? Then don't wait for school to teach you new moves, Go seek em. Go get the basics and fundamental and practice them till you know them by heart. Anatomy, get that anatomy down by heart, get it from books, life drawing sessions, old master work you can even use yourself as reference for facial expressions. Enough with the manga reference, this will ultimately kill your drawing abilities and send them to the next dimension. No- Joke, get the habit of carrying a small sketchbook to draw things around you and how people react and move. Most importantly, use your whole page when you sketch, don't hesitate on your lines, use your whole sketchbook and have no mercy when you sketch. Do not be afraid to make mistakes. Ive seen way too many anime artists restraining themselves to that style, dragging their lines instead of marking their lines as a single statement-in one direction-no ups--down--up--down motion using only their wrists. Use the whole arm. Want clean stuff, use a light box and draw over those sketch of yours with a single clean line picking the right line out of that mess of a sketch you poured all your emotions in. Dont wait for school to teach you heck, always try to search for knowledge on your own. Thats whats showing you as a serious and devoted artist. And also, last but not least, never, ever mimic moves from a single style. Blend various styles together AFTER you've learned the basics. Or else you'll remain someone's shadow and blend in the mass of repetitive anime artists copying an already watered down style made for tv.
Maintenant, va, et triomphe!
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Thanks for all the feedback! I actually didn't draw that for school, I just had an urge to draw a comic in French :p
I did these for my 2D art class, though.
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(was supposed to be the CD case for Sublime's last CD, but I made the letters on the back Really Fucking Huge and it made it look messed up : D)
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Something people tend to forget when doing lighting studies is that even if there's only one strong light source, there's going to be some reflected light right behind the core-shadow. Rather than render a gradient from light to pure dark, it lightens up just a bit before reaching the edge.
Keep it up with the realism studies, the animals look cute, but you need to give them more room in the ribcage.
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I'll remember that, thanks Pi. : D
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catgirl, Emmy Cicirega-esque. Something abouth this looks awkward but I can't figure it out. Something about the pose maybe?
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Think I might've gone overbord on the tones x:
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Working on Cali's design, tried a more cartoon-y look, but my scanner really messes up colors.
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lined paper D:
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blah blah blah bad anatomy
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Keep drawing everyday. Get more evolved with it as well. These drawings are very loose but look a little lazy, you look like you’re bored with most of them and quit too quickly. Spend more time with one drawing and really get into it.
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Will do, thanks Elio.
just a few little things.
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The one in the Pink tank top...
You said you felt something awkward,... The leg under the paw is too far away from the other one. Otherwise I think in her simplicity she is very neat. It's good that you can see ahead in art.
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Yeah, I think you're right, Snakemeat. Thanks.
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Hey hunny, just curious if you actually sketch out the basic figure shapes of your characters before going over and finalizing the lines? 'cause to me it looks like you just draw it out as is~ I really think if you got in the habit of sketching basic shapes first, it'd help you out a TON. You have a really cute style going on- but don't be afraid to practice techniques that are new to you.
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Yeah, I usually do just jump into finalizing the lines, but I'll try starting off with basic shapes. Thanks, Delya. :>
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(the view from a hotel I stayed at in Chicago a month ago or so.)
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(gesture drawings.)
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shapes!
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Start breaking those bad habits and integrate new techniques into your work. Don't even think of saying "this is my style" or "i don't use this or that" that'll be the best way to get ignored for the rest of your life. And when it comes to figure study, go for likeness and accuracy first, once you know enough on anatomy and such, then tackle stylization. Do not be too eager to jump in the style bandwagon or you will crash and burn.
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I have been working on anatomy and figures, I just haven't scanned them. I'll do that soon.
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Your people are looking better than ever (except that dog-head dude, who seems to have two left hands), but your background/landscape stuff could use the same level of practice that you've given the human(oid) form. Maybe try some more drawings with no people in them, just to practice the shapes of other things (cars, buildings, lamps, whatever).
You strike me as one of the most dedicated artists on this site. You're always receptive to crits, always eager to learn, and, most importantly, always drawing. Keep up the good work.
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-Jesse
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keep up with the high volume, you're improving loads!
Experiment with different facial and body types, it'll help broaden your repertoire of differentiable humans. draw old people, fat people, men, women, and everything in between. drawing from reference is always good.
keep it up!
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Wow you're improving lots! I really like the two colored pieces, of the city and the snow. And those kitties are so cute!
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Alright, I've been working on backgrounds and props too!
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A lot of my backgrounds are too big to scan though, or I haven't scanned them yet.
Also been reworking Charlie.
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There are too many view points. This is two-point perspective, so the objects should recede into TWO points. There's a thread on all of that here...
http://entervoid.com/board/index.php?topic=8033.0
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There are too many view points. This is two-point perspective, so the objects should recede into TWO points. There's a thread on all of that here...
http://entervoid.com/board/index.php?topic=8033.0
Great, thanks for the link. I'll get on working that!
Also I forgot to post this one.
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I hope that's not a true story! Unprofessional piercings are DANGEROUS, kids!!
Layout-wise, there's a bit much negative space above the first panel and under the safety pin.
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Nope, total fiction. :p
I'll work on the spacing though, thank you.
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whoa that crazy haired dude is like kick butt, thats pretty tight. keep it up, laaaady.
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The comic is great! I started giggling and got a weird look from my sister. XD
As pointed out by Pi, there is a lot of negative space. Maybe fill it with background or stretch the panels? Maybe something I'm not able to think of...?
Anyway, you're really good and all you can do is get better!
P.S. Anthro fish is the epitome of amazing.
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Thanks a lot! c:
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I'd really appreciate some critique or feedback.
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well shit on a stick, someone's been practicing.
good to see dear.
when you getting out of HS?
you gonna hit up the art schools or just do ECC for a while?
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I'm only a freshman, so I get out in 2011. I'm planning on checking out the Art Institute or Columbia, but I hear they're kind of pricy, so I'm still looking.
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I decided that the most productive thing to do in detention/class is to doodle some koalas (my interpretation of them. Do koalas have paws? I don't know.)
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why is this so tilted?
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This is a terrible scan, please excuse
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do you have photoshop? poor scannings can often be fixed up in photoshop if you play with the Levels or Curves (In the menu Image > Adjustments > Levels etc)
I just quickly did a Levels adjustment, see what it can do!:
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I also suggest playing with lineweights in your art to give it more of a 3-dimensional feel, a thicker, heavier line suggest that part is closer to the viewer, while a thinner lineweight does the opposite and pushes it back. I think this may help pieces like your cute little cake slice, keep it up!! Its rad seeing continually practicing!
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Beautiful, thanks! I do have Photoshop but it's horribly complicated, which is the main reason I don't do a lot of digital stuff, including coloring. And lineweight, okay, I'll remember that. Thank you!
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I don't scan anything anymore!
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I like the bird alot for some reason, but I think maybe less of the lines'd be better They're a bit too in your face and distracting. You should experiment with it. It's good.
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I'm thinking I'll watercolor this later.
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the second panel is a bit vague as to what is happening in it. When i took a second look at it i realized theres a carrot in the trap. You shouldn't cut out key props if you're trying to convey a message to your reader. The only time you can cut it is after you conveyed your point and all key props have been accounted for or will be accounted for.
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Thanks, maybe it's easier to see in color?
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Also I made this in EasyToon in like 5 minutes, nothing impressive but I like it. It looks like a pimped out TL Bot, haha
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I think you should try more screen tone stuff, I like how that turned out. And the watercolors are lovely! Everything is just incredibly adorable too. Looks like your trying out a whole bunch of different techniques, which is cool. Your stuff always seems to have the feeling of a sketch to it though, little mistakes in the line work can be corrected in photoshop (which you shouldn't be scared of!) Anyways, keep drawing, keep posting stuff, and you're awesome.
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the colors and tones are rather impressive, continue to use them please! Also, don't neglect your faces and anatomy either! I know you're fitting into your stride and rhythm with your style, but don't forget to practice realism also!
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Paper cutouts are fun!
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That doggy one is hilarious until I realize the cat can't see it from that point of view...
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I like the cat one the best XD Clever!
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Thank you thank you! c:
I was messing around in MS paint and then suddenly this happened.
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and these are just doodles because I feel like an asshole with so little content.
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i like your stuff but you could really step it up a lot if you work out your lines a bit.
they could be cleaner and drawn with a lot more confidence (don't know if this is the word for what i mean)
sorry for my bad english :O
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No, I get what you mean. Thank you! I'll work on that.
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oh my goodness.
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I could have filled up the entire page.
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Ah man your artwork is awesome. Cat hats! Wish I had one, but I'd probably embarrass my wife more by wearing it in public than I do now w/out it :P
Love your animals, particularly the cats. Do have one crit, the girl w/the cat hat seems a little unbalanced the way her feet are. Would really enjoy your stuff if you did some animated work w/it. Maybe stop-motion w/the cutouts'd be cool?
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I've dabbled in flash a bit in the past, maybe I'll try it again... thanks :D
one more.
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I like flash myself and think more people should use it, so that's a neat one. It kind of reminds me of webcomics like scary go round or anders loves maria. If you haven't seen those I'd recommend them, especially SGR.
Then again you're probably not old enough for those so forget I said anything! :p
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I love Anders Loves Maria! I actually went through and read it, beginning to end a few days ago. It's really interesting to see how the artist changes her style over the two years.
I just never really grasped the animation aspect of flash. I guess it was because I was just kind of guessing what to do but it all seems very confusing. I guess I'll have to actually read how to use it some day soon.
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Really? I think it's pretty straight forward. Editing frames is kind of awkward but between the speed and onion skinning I think the only other alternative is toonboom studio, and that one's not very popular. Maybe graphics gale, but that's for sprites.
Hmmm, I wonder if there was ever an animation jam I don't know about? I realize they all got killed, but that would be interesting.
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Finally got some good comic fonts.
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That comic font you used fits in really well w/your style, nice pick! I like how the muted colors reflect the time of day but they don't bring down the feeling that is emanating from what the dude's sayin'. Ah, how well I remember how it felt to be awkward back in the day...
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Thank you!
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I found an entire list of animals that rhyme with different forms of transportation and I wanted to draw all of them, starting with T-Rex BMX. But now I can't find the list :(
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About the phone comic, I think it would have been nice to show where the guy was standing.. I was a bit curious about that since all we see are clouds. perhaps in one of the panels you could have a shot showing that.
The Avey Tare picture is cute :> Maybe you could bring some more detail into the guy on the left's shirt/chest area? It is a bit lacking in interest in comparison with the rest of him.
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Just so you know, thats not a BMX haha.
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Thats a BMX, what you drew is motocross!
Nice work though.
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Aw man, my bad! I always though BMX and Motocross were the same things, to be honest.
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My first try at digitally coloring scanned lines, I don't think it turned out too terrible! I don't know why I had so much trouble drawing the way far left dude was standing :/ I'm going to color this traditionally too, sort of a compare/contrast sort of thing. And sorry like 90% of my stuff has been really boring, haha
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just because this post was feeling empty, this was drawn for a Something Awful MS Paint thread. It was a "MS Paint weird phobias". so I drew mine lol :(
I'll be drawing more soon.
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turned out so sloppy, haha.
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Nothing much.
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Four lonely posts. Poor posts.
I like the fact that you try something a little different with each of these, but that last girl, the one who seems to be alright, I like that one. Is that the same medium as above, colored pencil or cg or something? The dress is flat, and maybe it's the small size, but it looks more dimensional than the others. Please don't ever go by just wafer, that has a religious connotation that would bring up certain memories of a holy food poisoning incident. Not to mention that aside from the feet it's probably the most "normal" proportions I've seen from you. Then again, I kind of like noodle arms. Dunno. Dunno.
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That one is 100% photoshop. And it actually bothers me because her arms seem way too short! Haha, thank you though. I like noodle arms too.
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Pulpo stuff!
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All of the following are really bad pictures because I was using a giant sketchbook and could not find a working digital camera, so I used my phone. The Rumor's camera is awful!
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That Pulpo stuff looks pretty great, especially the first piece. Post a page or two if you have them!
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I really like the color scheme on the girl with the city, but I don't know how much soft-shading works for you right now. I'm not sure if it's a practice or a style thing, but maybe try that piece again with flats or cels?
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This stuff is looking cool, but I think maybe you could push the details a bit more on your cityscape background there, like have some birds flying around, and a binocular viewer thingy right next to her. Just some small stuff, don't take this as me saying "Overload the pic with stuff!", I just think that pic needs a bit more.
Other than that, I'm liking what you've got.
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All I have right now is the pencils for the first page, and some thumbnails. But here's that:
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You must have been joyously inspired by the webtoon Adventure Time. If you have not seen it my opinion is you should. I like looking at your art. You must be right handed. Be Carefull. Working straight from thumbnails to a computer can realy be a trying experience. I've had to get out my second hand store X-ray reading Light Table as of Late. It just makes the Transition so much easyer.
Man Posting in this place has realy been wierd for me. For like a month now I've had to log in twice in order to get on the Board. And all kinds of thing have been sort of hippity slippity.
But all in all V.W.; this has been a wonderful place. It has improved me to a vast degree. As a person as well as Artist. If I ever get something going more than this Janitorial Income; this place is gonna see a sisable donation from moo-ah.
I look forward to seeing yoiur progress. Remember I'm still on dial-up untill I get this Comp. payed off. I can't get everywhere, but know; most of the time, I love everyone.
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snake since when was this your biography thread?
git outta here with that talk of yusself.
This be wafer country.
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That comic looks like it might be the cutest thing ever.
Please continue.
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Haha what? Snake I have no idea what you are talking about. And that whole thumbnails to computer comment, my process is brain>script>thumbnails>pencils>inks>computer. Long road, with many a-winding turns. I am right-handed but I dont know what that has to do with anything!
Thank you Corny and Pi. :)
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pages 2 and 3!
(http://i38.tinypic.com/25pl4qs.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2h87m2w.jpg)
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vectoring is hard, you guys :(
(http://i36.tinypic.com/23lijcj.jpg)
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Barn owls.... those shark black eyes on a dead white face staring into my soul... ooooohhh.... flying death, screeching terror, ghosts that live in barns... :{
Looks good!
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(http://i34.tinypic.com/v65179.jpg)
http://i34.tinypic.com/v65179.jpg
ta-da!
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Bravo!
That looks fantastic!
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DESKTOP GET.
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Thanks you guys, I'm honored that it got a place on Corny's desktop.
(http://i35.tinypic.com/suv70z.jpg)
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Infamy is Spurnsome!
But away from the path etic ate Ego hey?
Nilla-V!
I'm like Nymphomaniac on a Saddle-horn, with the reality that your stuff has a starkly Digital/Traditional Contrast. It is really dramatised in that last piece there. If you can manage to keep that consistant, it should prove to be an alluring style to get you paying work from if anything else. But you must be Consistant with that theme for it to work.
'Tsall about Sacrifices and determination(whatever, is not), but you get the Idea.
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Haha, thank you webrynth.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21e0tit.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/66hs2w.jpg)
I don't like this one very much.
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Christ, your art is just to fucking cute, I don't think I can handle the sweetness and sugar content of it anymore haha
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I do it just to give you diabetes :3
(http://i41.tinypic.com/54vrrq.jpg)
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Ahaha I thought the toast eating guy's arm was a swatstika at first XD
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You're really improving. owo I really like how the pencil lines look.
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Thank you! And I left that sheet of paper out and my dad actually called me over and was all, "DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE." and it was completely unintentional, I promise.
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I just went into a diabetic coma, thanks wafer
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that owl ~~~<3
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(http://i44.tinypic.com/2hg4x05.jpg)
I forgot to resize this, my apologies
(http://i41.tinypic.com/eq5e08.jpg)
http://i41.tinypic.com/eq5e08.jpg
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I really like your style. Unbearably cute D= I'm digging the red riding hood/wolf pic. You should do a children's book =)
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thank you! I've actually been told that a lot, about the children's books stuff. haha.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/3206508473_44610bf9d8_o.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2nlcqkj.jpg)
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GAHHH I FUCKIN HATE THAT GAME SO MUCH SUCH A GOD DAMN UNSATISFYING ENDING EVEN WITH ALL THE GOD DAMN GEMS FUCK FUCK FUUCKKKKKK!!!
The piece about it is quite lovely. Are they lyrics from a song?
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I know, right? I was like UUUUGH FUCK THIS I HAVE TO MAKE TERRIBLE FANART FOR IT FFFUUUUCCCCKKKKK
and yes, they are from "In The Aeroplane Over The Sea" by Neutral Milk Hotel. :)
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/3228708857_ce536034b9_o.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3345/3228708835_36bfe218d1_o.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3424/3228708793_90d0307b25_o.jpg)
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I dunno if the pointy-boob stylization quite works for your style. Or maybe just not when it's so defined like that? I dunno for sure, but something looks a little off about it.
I'm digging the way you draw faces right now, and your poses are getting better. Keep it up!
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yeah, I wasn't so sure about them either, but decided to try it out.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3347/3234966713_818263824d_o.jpg)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3347/3234966713_818263824d_o.jpg
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2zoj1uu.jpg)
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dude, that bird is awesome
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That last picture is awesome.
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here is just some stuff from my sketchbook.
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/hmosboygirl.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/itaotswc.jpg)
this is the watercolored version of something I posted before.
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/newid.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/outifts.jpg)
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oh good god this stuff is adorable.
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(http://i44.tinypic.com/70u8gh.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/316w3y9.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2rzf53l.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/vp9k49.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2cnfima.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/jhy04o.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2zxruo3.jpg)
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Oh snap! This is adorable! The only problem I'm seeing right now though is she's not really reading too well as a goth, if you darkened her look up a bit it'd make the comic work a lot better. You know subtle things, a darker gradient on her dress, a darker grey on her nightgown and some black in her room, darker patterns on her outfits. (Though on page 4 a Victorian wallpaper pattern or a lace pattern would probably work better) Aside from those slight clarity issues this is a really nice comic and awesome addition to the book.
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So sweet and adorable!! I really wanna see those goth-tones played up more, like Jack said, but I also really like the super white world she lives in. If you play up the contrast between her darkness and the world around her, I think it'll really distinguish itself.
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I'm thinking I might submit this to Threadless, but I'm not sure.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2ldkabb.jpg)
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http://www.threadless.com/submission/202055/rainbow_goop/
you should vote for me on threadless, because if it gets printed, it'll fund my trip to bonnaroo!
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sorry I have a lot of stuff on lined paper, I get a lot of drawing done during class. :)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/k16ono.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/72aic1.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/9ub6rl.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2mwbkbd.jpg)
ohgod this is so smudgy
(http://i40.tinypic.com/205yjo.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/4rqpti.jpg)
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wwwwwhhhhhyyyy hhhaaavvveeeeennnnttttt yyoooouuuuu ssuuubbbmmmiiittttttteeeddddd yyyyoooouuuurrrr ccchhhharrraaaccttterrrr yyyeeettttttt?
stop playing with my heart, Vanilla.... I need you.... in void...making comics..... please.... I .... I just love you so much. You keep posting these adorable drawing...... but not character submission?!?! WHY???????
*sniffle*
<33
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Damn this cute style! Damn it! Submit a character!
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Submit a character!
ditto & backatcha!
... very nice, wafer!
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I'm working on it! i am honestly self concious about my poor comic drawing skills so now I'm just reading and observing and going to redo my antheia pages. but i'm not giving up!
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Stop redrawing the same pages over and over. Getting into void and battling is the fastest way to improve.
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I agree with fowlie... even though I myself haven't done comics here, I think the only way you're ever going to get a good feel for how to do comics on Void is by actually doing a comic for Void. Pull a character out of your head and go with it! :)
I love your style, it reminds me of a mix between Emmy Cicierega and Gary Baseman. There are endless possibilities for comics if you exploit those sorts of aesthetics :)
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I'm not redoing the exact same pages though this last time, I'm planning on showing everything differently, just basically levelling up the comic I drew a few months ago. but I'm going to stop just hanging around in the forums reeeal soon, I promise!
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sup guys, i am going shopping tomorrow for new art stuff and i want to know what inking pens you reccomend/use? lately i've just been using non-ball pens that i find anywhere and it is pretty awful. but i have no clue what i'm doing when it comes to pen shopping.
and, because i feel cheap having another text-only post in an art thread, this is a terrible cell phone picture, which is all i have on my sister's laptop right now.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2i7493r.jpg)
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I use microns, or steadtler for fine lines.
sets like these are pretty sweet. You get a variety of widths that way.
(http://images.nitrosell.com/product_images/3/575//STAEDTLER%20PIGMENT%20LINER%20SET.jpg)
or
(http://www.quiltbug.com/images/pigma-pen-set.jpg)
most places seem to carry either of those brands, but if you happen to come across faber-castell stuff then I recommend trying that out
(http://www.jerrysartarama.com/images/resized/386x450/PRODUCTS/PENS_AND_MARKERS/FABER_CASTEL/0084619000000-ST-01-Faber.jpg)
That's a badass marker. I also use a black prismacolor marker, or a black copic sketch marker for lines and larger areas of black personally. I'd say to go get one of everything and see what suits your fancy. I think you should try a brush marker fo sho... I think you'd like it. I went to dickblick.com and ordered one of every black marker I could find and just tried them out... but hopefully our art supply store will have a good selection too. Lemme know what you pick up!
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(http://www.countryloveceramics.com/shop/images/SF4585%2010%200%20Finer%20Liner%20Brush.jpg)
(http://www.studioartshop.com/acatalog/3083.jpg)
Doooo eeeeeet.
And remember if you do, always get the spider. NEVER GET THE DRAGON.
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Doooo eeeeeet.
And remember if you do, always get the spider. NEVER GET THE DRAGON.
ooooh how much do those cost?
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$2 for the brush, $3 for the ink. BUT ALWAYS THE SPIDER! NEVER THE DRAGON!
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haha is the dragon made of pure satan or something? but those look great, I think i will invest in it!
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The Dragon has done naught but ruin lives and rape hearts.
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first of may first of may, outdoor fucking starts today!
(http://i41.tinypic.com/9v9uvr.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2rf4p7a.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2choyn4.jpg)
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(http://i44.tinypic.com/2rf4p7a.jpg)
This girl is much, much too bow-legged, plus she's too stretched-out... keep an eye on proportions as you draw.
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(http://i44.tinypic.com/zwixk5.jpg)
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thats great, i love her face, but it's a bit cluttered with all the lines. And some shoulder movement from the retching would have really driven the point home of her throwing up.
Haha, is that another t-shirt design? Because i'd wear that one.
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it looks better at full size, that's scaled down 50%! but thank you :)
and i'm not sure how people would like this on a t-shirt, i was doodling some trial images in one of my classes and the kid sitting next to me was like WHAT THE HECK THAT'S SO WEIRD CHECK THIS OUT PERSON SITTING BEHIND ME LOOK WHAT KSEY DREW SOOO MESSED UP, but i appreciate the thought, haha
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(http://i39.tinypic.com/egamfa.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1zmmrty.jpg)(http://i40.tinypic.com/f00qr4.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/55qxhl.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/28uqr06.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/24g54cj.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/23r0miq.jpg)
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ahhaahhahaha that cat is amazing!
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i <3 the pen tool. sometimes.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/if1r20.jpg)
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Damn thats cute, I love how you did the face.
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thank you! :)
i'm not very proud of this batch to be honest. but here it is anyway.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2u77oqr.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/69dnkj.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/m7q7ms.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2dvpwqu.png)
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your faces are so cute, I dunno what it is..!
you should be proud. That first one looks real nice and the anatomy is tighter there. Do more stuff like that ; 3;
and promise promise promise that you'll get a character iiiin~!
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(http://i39.tinypic.com/egamfa.jpg)
HAHAHAHH!!!
My sister's cat does that all time and I want to destroy it. :D
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(http://i44.tinypic.com/vo0wee.jpg)
i had a few other things scanned but my cousin kicked me out so i'm just going to leave this here for now.
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ohhh-kay!
(http://i43.tinypic.com/312e8o3.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2nrj4hg.jpg)(http://i39.tinypic.com/2641950.jpg)(http://i39.tinypic.com/o8ujo5.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2diezx5.jpg)(http://i41.tinypic.com/i56wrt.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2diothv.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/263g7pe.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2d78od1.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/nd067t.jpg)
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(http://i39.tinypic.com/kbxbtk.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2w49o5c.jpg)
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/v3n5ad.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2lm8h7c.jpg)
eh
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Hahaha awesome
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/2612rgo.jpg)
token people that you see at every show. next installment: the bro
(http://i41.tinypic.com/ezk39x.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/xfuh6r.jpg)
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When I was in middle school there was so much of those Baby Scenies and they acted just like that...
annoying bastards
In Florida theres also a bunch of skinheads
and stoners
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The creepy old guy looks like a 30 year old.
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the creepy old guy specifically looks like my zonked out 2 dimensional design teacher who you can tell went to too many rock concert and may have taken one too many hits.
but thats cool. and so is your artwork.
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Your art is continually getting better! The touch of realism in the last set of studies looks really good, do more!
Also, like unclesex, I think you could also benefit from using finer lineweights to draw in details and textures. Usually I see you do a lot of work at one lineweight, so experimenting would be good!
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(http://i43.tinypic.com/2e35r9z.jpg)
sorry this is so big :x
i also have a painting but i scanned it in parts and it looks terrible and patchyso i'll post it later!
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(http://i43.tinypic.com/2w49o5c.jpg)
Same here...
Good stuff :3
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i feel bad for just posting single things, but i need to buy a new sketchbook! i have nowhere else to draw right now :(
(http://i42.tinypic.com/bgvl37.jpg)
this self-portrait was 100% done and polished and I'd fixed everything that looks awkward and it was wonderful but then i plugged in my flash drive to save it, and the computer decided that i meant to restart it and so it took the initiative to do it itself. i might refinish it :/
haha i feel like this post is full of excuses excuses excuses.
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gothology poopies
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2uysrx5.jpg)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/29qej2s.jpg)
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(http://i25.tinypic.com/fjovsz.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/1zyahqs.jpg)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/v6rk28.jpg)
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awesome awesome!
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i got a brush and ink! so these are just some boring test drawings, because i've never used a brush before!
i wanted to do sort of like classical portrait style pictures of my gothology characters, then i just kind of made a different version of another drawing i did.
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2uyj69z.jpg)
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2hycjyq.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2vaxvus.jpg)
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edit: disregard this, my bad
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(http://i32.tinypic.com/fkyyo2.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/33biu69.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/x1hppi.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2czpzc4.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2rxtd2w.jpg)
the last two are rough drafts for a summer art project where i have to recreate an artist's style/themes, and i chose sylvia ji.
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Love your art style!
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I agree with the cat.
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:)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2n7e4c0.jpg)
i forgot to convert my other picture from a psd to a jpg so here's this as a placeholder
(http://i32.tinypic.com/262uv40.jpg)
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(http://i32.tinypic.com/j677vc.jpg)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2r5tjif.jpg)
(http://i31.tinypic.com/51ty61.jpg)
(http://i31.tinypic.com/2a7bj9w.jpg)
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(http://i30.tinypic.com/149m2qe.jpg)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/14vh8ap.jpg)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/snjnsz.jpg)
(http://i27.tinypic.com/23rv1hu.jpg)
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it's cool to see you trying some different inking techniques. I think the stippling has a neat effect.
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i love how stippling turns out, but it's an absolute pain in the ass!
(http://i29.tinypic.com/mvq52v.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2cnffrr.jpg)
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I love this new work you just uploaded so much.
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are you planning on finishing either of the last two? I'd really like to see either of them done to completion, or both!
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i really don't know how i could finish it up! i kind of like how they just kind of, trail off to nowhere. maybe i could add some color to the faces? i'll play around with it a little.
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I think the second one would look good with some light watercolor or pastel-colored washes, but I don't know too much about color and painting.
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(http://i30.tinypic.com/oumphe.jpg)
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2uj5err.jpg)(http://i31.tinypic.com/1znr5ae.jpg)
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(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/doggyconcepts.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/fashionsketches.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/gothgirlconceptsnew.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/hateallaround.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/hazardsoflove.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/huggyhuggydoggydoggy.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/littledoggy.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/selfdress.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/who.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/william_hazardsoflove.jpg)
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(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/dressydressdesign.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/margaretdress.jpg)(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/margarettwo.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/portraitmargaret.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/portraitwilliam.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/portraitqueen.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/portraitrake.jpg)
(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n457/treeeeeeeee/rakeschildren.jpg)
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There's sort of an off-center look to your more realistic faces, I don't think it works as well to your advantage as your more stylized ones. Keep experimenting around with it, maybe you'll find something better?
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ah, that's what it is! i knew there was something making the faces wonky but i could not place it. thank you!
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(http://i33.tinypic.com/o0ukom.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2nt8ndx.jpg)
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colors match the style quite well, the first one looks super cool.
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art block sucks, dude :(
(http://i38.tinypic.com/118hzcx.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/kd29g2.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2vhw31s.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/6i709g.jpg)
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I rly dig your style, Dude. Awesome shit.
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Hey! I already took Snuffleupagus!
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so weak!
edit: and thank you luniara, i felt bad, like i'd brushed that off, but i hadn't!
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There is a great narrative sense in these; I hope you're drawing comics! Great body exaggeration.
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I am drawing comics actually! Here is the first few pages of my gothology submission, and then the final page.
(http://i36.tinypic.com/ru7jg8.jpg)
(http://i38.tinypic.com/zwgr3a.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/25ew9cz.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/bevon6.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/1zdap3m.jpg)
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My head exploded from the cute. Those comic pages are amazing!
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Since we know how awesome you are, don't you think it would be a cinch for you to make a Void character and join in on the festivities?
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(http://i33.tinypic.com/o0ukom.jpg)
out of all the pictures i've seen of yours in this thread, i think this picture is the best. all the others, in comparison, now looks like forced attempts to make a certain "personal style" work. granted, the other pictures on this thread page are all improvements over the stuff posted a few thread pages back, but this particular picture seems more natural and personal than the line nose inverted bowl face look of most of your drawings.
can you share your impressions and intentions behind drawing this particular drawing this way? i'm curious to know what you think of how this one turned out.
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(http://i33.tinypic.com/o0ukom.jpg)
out of all the pictures i've seen of yours in this thread, i think this picture is the best. all the others, in comparison, now looks like forced attempts to make a certain "personal style" work. granted, the other pictures on this thread page are all improvements over the stuff posted a few thread pages back, but this particular picture seems more natural and personal than the line nose inverted bowl face look of most of your drawings.
can you share your impressions and intentions behind drawing this particular drawing this way? i'm curious to know what you think of how this one turned out.
You know, I totally agree. Wafer, do explain.
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I actually really don't like that picture, because I feel like it's not really my own. granted, it looks good, but I used a reference picture for the point of view and face anatomy, and drew a lot of inspiration from two other artists (http://milkbbi.co.nr/ and http://pttrdy.livejournal.com/). I actually considered not even posting it anywhere because I don't feel good about it at all.
I'm actually not proud of a lot of my work and the whole inverted-bowl-line-nose junk is my least favorite. I'm trying to make things work, so it's pretty awkward as of now.
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I actually really don't like that picture, because I feel like it's not really my own. granted, it looks good, but I used a reference picture for the point of view and face anatomy, and drew a lot of inspiration from two other artists (http://milkbbi.co.nr/ and http://pttrdy.livejournal.com/). I actually considered not even posting it anywhere because I don't feel good about it at all.
I'm actually not proud of a lot of my work and the whole inverted-bowl-line-nose junk is my least favorite. I'm trying to make things work, so it's pretty awkward as of now.
there's no shame whatsoever in using reference pictures for drawing, neither is it for being inspired by other artists, and "borrowing" techniques from them. most people hark that a "real artist" can draw perfectly without any sources or references, but that's very difficult and rare, and shouldn't be taken as gospel, anyways. a great genius knows how to hide their sources.
i know this bit of advice has already been said in many other threads, probably also in your thread here, but i'll say it again just to be annoying:
forget trying to find your style. stop trying to make your drawings so original (or, for other people, so similar) from other artists and styles. though not necessarily easier, the better and ultimately more rewarding method for becoming an effective and original artist is to first learn how to draw realistically. i don't mean shoot as far as drawing photo-realistically all your life - just enough to render figures and scenes convincingly (how far that is, i don't know). at least in my opinion, all artistic styles are simplifications and abstractions of reality. once the reality is understood well enough to be drawn effectively, then the style naturally follows.
hell, that "learn reality first" shpeal isn't the ultimate advice. there's a million examples out there where it doesn't apply - Delya, for example, began drawing nothing outside of the Rayman aesthetic cannon. over time, she evolved out of that and made her own style out of it, that now doesn't look anything like a Rayman cartoon. a more general example is the big fat group of void artists who started drawing in an anime/manga style of some sort - even in that crap-ass How To Draw Manga book style. the common thread of everybody here is they kept going with it, and eventually grew out of it and into their own.
... then again, no one person has the ultimate advice for anything, probably me in particular. without showing anything of my own crap, i'm sure a lot of people here would find anything i say highly suspect.
[lecture mode off]
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I do a lot of more realistically rendered pictures (just not normally people) but I don't even bother scanning them because I feel like they're boring and nobody really wants to see them.
My favorite things though, is style. I can see the most beautifully, technically drawn picture and not like it because it has no style. That's why finding my own is so important to me and my art. I was also one of those who were grown from a how-to-draw-manga book which is where that feeling probably stemmed from, and I really really dislike those cookie-cutter anime artists.
But anyway, for right now, I guess I'm young and just trying my best to find my own with my art and my style. I look back at what I did a few pages ago and I am almost embarrassed by it and how good I thought it was at the time. I can only improve, right?
edit: sorry, not so gud with words and this is rambly
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I'm gonna play the devil's advocate and agree with you, wafer. Please, no one flame me...But I completely agree with the previous post. I think Void as a whole is taking technical aspects way too seriously. To be honest, creativity and appeal matter way more to me. I still agree that you'll never get anywhere without knowing basics, but still...In the end, I think the appeal is way more important than how technically impressive a drawing is.
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I'm gonna play the devil's advocate and agree with you, wafer. Please, no one flame me...But I completely agree with the previous post. I think Void as a whole is taking technical aspects way too seriously. To be honest, creativity and appeal matter way more to me. I still agree that you'll never get anywhere without knowing basics, but still...In the end, I think the appeal is way more important than how technically impressive a drawing is.
You have to know how to spell properly before you can spell things incorrectly on purpose. The right way to go about this is how Wafer's doing it, doing the technical practices despite not wanting to. Not to turn this into a critique of your work Sirius, but this does seem to explain a lot of the huge problems you still have with your work. Void takes technical fundamentals seriously because the majority of the art world takes fundamentals seriously. It's a little closed minded to believe that appeal and skill are mutually exclusive.
Kasey, you're doing it right by at least doing the not-fun work, and nobody wants to focus on technique in highschool, so keep up what you're doing.
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It's totally fine to not share your life studies and figure studies with us. It's just great that you're doing them and I hope you're applying them to your work. As long as you're doing it, awesome. The internets don't have to see everything you draw afterall.
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I know my art has tons of problems. Don't think I don't realize them and strive to fix them. I'll admit I am one lazy ass artist, pretty 1-D in my approach. I will also admit I've been concerned more about character design and shit way more than anything else, but I've improvec a LOT this year, regardless. I may not do too many life drawings and such, but I have done some and am currently in sculpting class which has helped me a LOT.
I make terrrible comics, I am not that good an artist, I'm only at this level because I draw an almost unhealthy amount of time each day. I enjoy creating unique and interesting character designs and writing stories more than anything else, and I understand I gotta branch out one of these days. That's why I'm here and I'm gonna take this whole thing way more seriously once I make a passable entry.
Anyways...I want you to tell me my art's flaws, Jack. I'm interested, not trying to be an asshole...Just curious.
I didn't mean to start a fight or anything, and I understand where you're coming from I was pretty much off in what I said...I just feel sometimes that there isn't enough crits on the actual creative content. Technical aspects certainly hold more water, but I appreciate a unique style over pretty much anything.
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Now now, please keep the topic on Wafer's art. If you want Jack's opinion on your art please ask him through PM.
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Coming back to Wafer's art, it's tough to critique something like "creative content," because it's so terribly subjective. This is the blessing and curse of all artistic endeavors.
Person A looks at VW's (I'm using this from now on, I just thought it up) art and says, "Wow! It's so cute and adorable, I love it!"
Person B looks at VW's art and says "Gross, it's so empty and predictable and without substance, I hate it!"
Both could be seen as correct, but it's the opinion and values of the viewer that will always be the issue. Therefore, it's up to the artist to decide what direction they want to take their "style" in, and what goal they want their art to achieve. We as critics can give suggestions and help it along (especially if their artistic content is trying too controversial, different, or even similar to the current culture), but the best thing that we can do is help with the execution of the idea, not the idea itself.
Once the technical aspects of the execution are competent, the artist can do anything they want to achieve anything they want.
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no matter how subjective the critiques are, I still love to hear them. I love getting feedback, positive or negative.
also, I feel like it's getting a bit wordy in here, I'll have some new art up tonight!
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JEEZUS, VW, what the hell are they teaching you kids in school these days??
I think I'm gonna need a bit to recover from that one...
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Hmm it's cute but I feel the lines look a little sloppy. Like it's especially noticeable on the page with the headshot. The world they're in could use a little more...dimensionality. Like you suggest it in some places, but because there's an overall flatness to it all it seems rather incomplete.
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You have learned the art of the headshot well, grasshopper.
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Hello! Sorry I've not been around... I've been put to work by my art class, I'm in the cool-kid AP class and they give us like, an assignment a week and they're all really huge and our teacher expects a million hours on each one so I haven't been able to do anything finished just for myself in a very long time. :( So here's some stuff from my sketchbook.
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edit: I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S UP WITH THAT SECOND TO LAST ONE CONSIDERING IT'S BEING HOSTED ON PHOTOBUCKET BUT IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE IT WAS MY FAVORITE OF THE BATCH
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I like the stuff in your sketchbook, honestly to me it looks better than the stuff that's come before it.
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I feel the same way. I always like my unfinished work better than my finished, and I don't know why!
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i see great improvements with this batch. particularly, you've avoided the concave bowl face issue that i think was your greatest weakness. the cat stipple is quite snazzy, too.
i'm curious about what the missing image is. i hope that gets resolved. you've already tried deleting that pic from the gallery, and resubmitting it? it meets all the file uploading requirements?
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The thing is that, it's not even hosted on flickr! It's on tinypic... I tried posting it from facebook, tinypic and photobucket and it still gives me the flickr error! I have no clue why.
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my best guess is somehow the image file shares a path name with flickr, if that can even happen ... maybe change the filename, then resubmit to the file host?
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my best guess is somehow the image file shares a path name with flickr, if that can even happen ... maybe change the filename, then resubmit to the file host?
That one's right, the filename has something to do with it.
I've had that same problem.
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Okay okay, let's try this again.
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This tends to be the only thread I check periodically because I really like you're creativity
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:)
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This is partially my hourly-comic-day, but I kept forgetting about it :( each panel is about the size of a quarter, by the way
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My favorite part of that picture, little handses
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Ah you're improving steadily. This is good. And I see Red Rabbit :'(
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Dang, I love your sketches! There's just so much style oozing out of everything you draw. I'm looking forward to seeing more!
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And I finally got pictures of these cards that I painted for a school project, and I'm linking them because they're pretty huge. The theme is schizophrenia.
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Technology is not on my side- whenever I plug my flash drive into the laptop, it freezes it up! So scans have been in impossibility :( Here is some okay-quality pictures of what I have been up to though!
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your stuff keeps getting better and better.
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This is the best piece i've ever seen you do. please do more like it. elegant lines, great colors; it's fantastic.
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The playing cards are so nice. You should just do a painting on an entire deck, then make all of them a single piece.
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I was planning on completing an entire deck, but never thought to compile them into one piece! Hmmmm.
Here's some stuff from my moleskine/sketchbook
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Nice backgrounds!
I like the style youre going with, just watch out to not go completely Mickey on it. haha just kididng.
As long as there are girl in panties it's cool in my book.
Where's the comixsss
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The landscape sketches are awesome! Keep doing those. A whole sketchbook of nothing but that. That's your summer school homework.
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Well here you go, scenery AND comics!
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this looks great! i love the detail and texture, please do more of that!
it seems a bit rough, are you planning on colors/tones at all? i think having some "pop" would really up the quality.
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Maybe something like this?
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yes, that would be exactly what i'm talking about. the bridge in particular looks absolutely fantastic.
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:)
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Wafer, you are so awesome I love your style.
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Actual happening. Cameo by Gene Goldstein (he also drew the partial ass to the right)
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Oops forgot this
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^^^ love them trees!
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MORE LIKE THIS PLEASE.
Also, comics!
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Wow...
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I think I'm in love
I love your backgrounds especially, your stipling is really effective
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Miss ya void. Here's some junks I've been up to
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Wow, you've gotten really good since I've last been here. Makes me feel like I haven't been pushing myself enough.
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Finally fishined my first full-color comic, Before I Sleep. Click here (http://www.mediafire.com/?ijyt9o14nf2ibxb) to download it.
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It's so awesome to see you've been working on stuff still, I was worried you would have just dried up and left us! The comic is awesome, by the way.