The play must go on / Alouisse Verand cats

The play must go on — Alouisse Verand cats

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tags: alouisse ver, Cats, the play must go on




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Rivana
Artist
368 comments
# 11   Posted: May 17 2020, 09:18 AM
Beautiful artwork all throughout!  I love that you both kept the same color palette which made the style change not jarring at all! (And BOTH your styles are beautiful btw).  I can pore over the pages over and over again and admire how professional and clean everything looks.

Just some minor crits : I feel like the random chibified  expressions/stylings in the climax kinda breaks the mood a bit. I can see it fitting in less serious situations like the last pages but during the pivotal scenes, it felt a bit sudden and out of place. Also lots of exposition/text in the beginning that I felt a little lost.

Again, overall this is a gorgeous comic and definitely way up there in terms of quality. You work great together! Hope to see more!  

Reecer6
Artist
365 comments
# 10   Posted: May 11 2020, 03:05 AM
wow, this was super cool!! this felt super cohesive and self-contained, and on a site where everything's basically a prelude to another comic, it's nice to get something that builds and releases its own tension in totality u_u there were definitely a lot of points with clarity issues, though, one the major ones being that i kind of couldn't recognize reimi in the second act after the style shift? and a lot of the action is so constricted that i can't really tell what's going on. still, i basically glazed over the issues and i really loved reading this!!

ArtsandGoodies
Artist
566 comments
# 9   Posted: May 11 2020, 12:14 AM
Amazing quality from both of you. Despite having different styles you blended them well here and changed at a good beat in the story which is a fun way to do that. I have the same visual Crit flytee had that the guy at the start looks so similar to the main male lead. However this is a small crit and art wise this comic is very good.

In terms of writing there were too many plot elements and events going on that the characterization and motivations suffered for it. There are so many plot elements that a lot of them end up getting awkwardly summarized. More important than that is with all the plot events that happen it leaves no time to show the stakes or character motivations. What could help reducing the amount of plot events is figuring out the purpose of each of them then combining some and still getting the same impact you want and more time since you wouldn't have to worry about transitions from one even to another.

For example the part of them going inside and sneaking around and the fight breaking out are both meant to raise the stakes. The fight can be removed and you could spend more time on them trying to sneak since both of those events have the same purpose. Without having to worry about transitions it will give us more time to understand the stakes and the characters more time to be themselves. It's clear you have a lot planned for these and detailed lives for them but with all the events that keep happening the reader doesn't get enough time to see that history of the characters be themselves. You two did a great collab and I hope to see more of these characters in the future.

Flytee
Community Manager
353 comments
# 8   Posted: May 8 2020, 05:16 AM
The quality here is REALLY high. Both of you did a great job on the visuals, this is a polished professional looking comic in both parts. I liked the Monotone and the hints of golden yellow, It was very effective. Shout out to Cats for some amazingly dramatic panels in the second half.

in terms of visuals I only have 1 nitpick, its more a character design issues, the guys at the start who gives all the exposition, looks far to similar to our male lead. Same complexion, round glasses, their hair even flopped in the same direction. They look like brothers.
It's a small issue, but because the scene just involved 3 people talking, more diversity would have been beneficial.

In terms of story, I love this kinda stuff, culty Lovecraftian antics are very much up my street. So thats a big plus. There were also a lot of interesting concepts at play here, but I sadly the way the story was told fell slightly short for me.

- Text/ Exposition-heavy at the start. Its quite a lot of ask for a reader, particularly one who isn't familar with the characters and the story. I think kicking things off with a bang would have been a lot more attention-grabbing- you could have had some dynamic art showing what the cults all about, as opposed to some guy just telling us stuff.

- For me personally, parts of the story could have been cut or extended. I have a few examples, but here's the main one-  I would have loved to have seen more of them sneaking into the show- that felt like a missed opportunity to build some real tension, I never felt like they were in danger/ in the lions den, which was a shame! The whole thing felt a bit effortless to me.

I hope these crits are helpful (feel free to dm me if you want me to expand on any points.)

I really enjoyed your comic on a whole, its impressive what you two have made here, I look forward to more!



Elyan
Artist
132 comments
# 7   Posted: May 5 2020, 12:19 PM
well that was an interesting read. my only complaints were that the character from the beginning should have appeared in some way at the end. it just feels like he could have been exluded from the getgo and instead just mentioned. but i guess you´ll use him more in act 2 which i´m looking forward to.
The other aspect is a little inconsistency in character designs from Alouisses to Cats side. I liked both sides but the design switch especially in the hairstyle of Reimi/MissWonder was a little sudden. Aside from that you managed to have enough design choices to blend your parts seamlessly. I love the elegant calm and detail induced aspects of Alouisses side while Cat really really nails it with her expressive poses and faces.  

Plotwise i´m in for cosmic horror and cult stories. So you had me with the first mention of Hastur and the King in Yellow. The sword though just didnt make sense to me. There is no good reason to let the sword stay with Reimi for the cultists (that part really is random) and was only needed to stab the woman in the end. It wasn´t clear to me why it had to be an sword in the first place aside from assumingly being her favoured weapon? Hidden dagger would have been nice and cunning. There might be a good reason for it but the comic didnt really deliver it.

all in all it was a very good read and i hope you can step up your game in act 2 :)

TheCydork
Artist
606 comments
# 6   Posted: May 5 2020, 04:10 AM
This got hella long so under a spoiler it goes!

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First off, wow. Visually this is stunning. Lovely styles, great use of limited palette, and just overall very clean and polished looking. I expected the style change to majorly throw me off, and while there was a big difference between styles it didn’t feel jarring at all, I think due to a cohesive palette and the similarly soft, fluid lines. A damn near professional looking comic, kudos to both of you!

Individually - Alouisse, really dig the texture you used for your half, and your backgrounds were amazing. Especially liked how you drew the exterior of the house. I also love how you draw hair? It just looks so soft and swoopy hehe. Cats, man that blurry, soft-edges effect you did on page 11 looked killer! Not just the big void in the middle of page, but the simple little panels of Reimi walking towards the light with her sword, damn those looked nice. Also loved the first panel on page 18, very dramatic.

I have to say though, I wasn’t really engaged by the story, sorry. These are totally new characters being introduced, there’s no bios to read or comic archive, so automatically as readers we’re going to be less invested in them. You needed to establish them at the beginning, so that we have a reason to care about them and be interested in what they do. Instead we get exposition and a flurry of names that mean nothing to us. There’s 20 pages here and despite reading it thrice I still have little idea of who these characters are. They’re a couple, they somehow know the cult members, the lady is a little sassy and can use a sword, the guy is... well, he loves her and doesn’t like talking about his past. You essentially drop trivia about them, but not what their personalities are?

Despite the amount of exposition, I still felt like I knew nothing, and the whole thing came off as generic. What was the cult actually doing that was bad enough to require this couple’s... services I guess? Bad enough that someone wanted to track them down? On my third reread I got that they’re going to end the world via mass hysteria and read things such as:

“Using this madness as a way to bridge, the city of Carcosa will be summoned into this realm of reality and along with it, Hastur.”

1) We aren’t told what this actually means. Why is Carcosa significant and how would it end the world? 2) There are so many names and so much text on these first few pages that this information is easily missed, as are other important details. Why does the cult want to end the world in the first place for instance? What’s the deal with Hastur? Without meaningful specifics, they read as another Bad Guy Group who Want to End the World because they’re Bad.

I felt little to no suspense throughout the comic as well. I think this is partly due to not knowing the characters enough to carel, but also because everything is very convenient. Struggles are over before they start and apart from Sani being dragged off to read the book, there were no obstacles in the couple’s path. Reimi is tied up and left in an empty room with no guards, no alarms, nothing, so she escapes almost instantly. When the madness starts, there’s one panel where she feels some of the effects and then it’s never mentioned again. Why does she seem mostly immune, having only have a tiny struggle while the rest of the crowd are outright ghouls at this point? On page 12, she’s attacked and then kills her attacker in the very next panel. On page 18 she’s knocked heavily to the ground but is already conscious and on her feet by the next panel. The struggles are too easy and too quick. Even in the final confrontation, the siblings just talk and then suddenly one is dead, and when Reimi is grabbed, she is saved and the other sibling killed within just two panels. Sani’s eye definitely felt like a plot device in that situation too, how he suddenly say Reimi through the smoke. It was introduced earlier, yes, but again we don’t know anything about it. Why he has this eye, what it does beyond seeing undefined Stuff that other people can’t.

One minor, minor note I also had was that this comic was titled “the play must go on” and they call the performance a play, but we never see a play. We just see one guy reading a book on stage. Not really a crit, I just found that weird haha.

Whew. tl;dr great visuals and a very polished look, weak story and characters. I actually had more I wanted to say but I though it might be a bit too much. If you’re interested to hear feel free to DM me on discord! I feel like I have to state this wasn’t a bad comic despite my wall of crit, like I said at the beginning it was pretty excellent visually speaking. I just feel like getting into specifics can really help explain a point, and especially when you’re tackling story the explanations can get lonnng. So I really hope this helps!

cats
Artist
41 comments
# 5   Posted: May 4 2020, 12:17 AM
YAY! its finally here ~ I love these characters so so much and I was delighted to be able to work on this with Alouisse!

 It's been a while since I gotta back to comics but despite the hardwork, it was alot of fun cause we did it together!! <3 I hope you guys enjoy it!

Alouisse Ver
Artist
41 comments
# 4   Posted: May 4 2020, 12:01 AM
I am SO HAPPY TO HAVE FINISHED THIS, AAH! Creating this has been a joy and endeavor. Learned a lot while doing this!

Pages 1-10 were done by me.
Pages 11-20 were done by Cat.
Story was a collab effort :D

I only ask that the critiques be constructive, and that if you already see a critique you were going to say has been posted, to not beat a dead horse!

And thank you so, so much for reading! <3 Creating this was a labor of love and I'm glad to have been able to do this.

Hellis
Artist
286 comments
# 3   Posted: Mar 18 2020, 12:55 PM
O: Hell yes

Animeshen
Artist
1490 comments
# 2   Posted: Mar 18 2020, 09:39 AM
WHAT IS THIS

Goldie
Artist
101 comments
# 1   Posted: Mar 17 2020, 04:28 PM
hype Hype HYPE H Y P E!!

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