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Community => News & Events => Topic started by: Wei Ingnan on Jul 19, 2014, 12:34 PM
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Just in time for Summer enterVOID.com presents a brand spanking new event that has been cooking for over a year. Seasoned with a range of new challenges for our thrill happy members....this one has more than a few twists to tickle even the more jaded palette.
(http://www.spiritualtoxin.com/shortNsweetHeader.jpg)
Short and Sweet
*Original Concept by Puzzlething
A Battle Royale Style Artist Match with a Super Ultra Secret Mystery Theme.
Sounds fancy sure....but what the hell does all that actually mean?!
All Artists taking part will be required to submit an original comic WITHOUT the use of any VOID characters......and the comic must reflect the Secret T.B.A. Theme....with those exceptions the characters, setting, genre and plot are completely up to the individual artists.
What?!....I can`t use my character?........ OK.....that's certainly new…..but…well….ummm
What.....not `sweet enough`
not really...no...bit iffy about not using my character
..it is also going to be open to any member that wants to take part
Really!?
Anyone that is already an enterVOID.com Artist.......Yup….there will be no maximum number of entrants or selection process…if you feel you can handle it and wanna do it; then sign up and you are in....even VOID Artists that have been accepted but haven't had their first match can join!
But that would mean this might get pretty big.....OK that is pretty sweet....so wait a minute!...... what's so 'Short' about it then?
I'm glad you asked.....in addition to taking place in only one round the Artists will be restricted as to the page count of their comics...a maximum of 5 pages.
What!!????....that's crazy
Well the emphasis there is to show people that bigger is not always better.....better is better and it can be done in smaller comics with a greater focus on quality
Details:
* Artist Sign Up ends August 3
* Artist Line Up and Ultra Secret Theme will be announced together on August 4th
* There will be a 4 week deadline starting on August 4th and ending September 1st with one week of Voting immediately following
* Comic MUST represent Announced Theme and MAY NOT contain the depiction of any official VOID character including but not limited to those characters owned by the artist or his competitors.
* 3 page minimum and 5 page maximum. There will be NO page stacking, doubling up or giant pages allowed.....no silly buggers here.....stick to standard page sizes.
*Theme has been pre-selected by Council and will not be released to anyone until the aforementioned date.
* Not meeting requirements will result in automatic disqualification from Tourney for the Artist as well as the chance to be shamed by all of their peers. These lowlifes will also quite possibly develop an annoying rash in various embarrassing locations about their person.
YOUR COMIC WILL NOT BE POSTED OR OTHERWISE CONSIDERED A DEFAULT IF YOU DO NOT MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS OR ATTMEPT OTHERWISE
This event has been designed to challenge and educate those that choose to take part....engaging them in somthing new and forcing them to restrict themselves and focus on the creation of a fully realized and finished comic within the alotted time and page count and in accordance to a particular theme.....as would be expected in real life by any number of publications and editors.
Although this event will be open to everyone that wishes to take part it will be very challenging for all involved…..so take it seriously and consider your current situation and abilities before entering….remember performance affects your chances to get into other events.....and nobody likes a default or half finished work.
This event will also be a challenge to our other members when it comes time to vote...it will be somthing new and different and the content and format will require even more serious thought and critique than is normally required….especially if there is a large turn out...so I hope you will make an effort.
The Winner will have the Title of `Short and Sweet 2014` added to his/her character profile on the Main Site as well as the self satisfaction of knowing that he/she has beaten the pants off of everyone else....neener neener neener.
Signups
Applicants apply below with Artist Name and web address for your account
for example;
Wei Ingnan
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=132
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this is a little different than our normal events...if you have questions or require further information....feel free to ask here or in PM
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Looks like fun, I guess I'll quit lurking in the shadows and actually do something here. Count me in!
Ahmed
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15911
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I'm so in. I really gotta work on tightening up my short comics and making sure everything translates well in that space. Awesome event idea!
Mintley
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1766
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Why not?
Slagglle
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2622
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I should be finishing up on my current battle with Squidney, and I really need challenges like this right now. So I'll throw in... tentatively though. If things happen between now and before the 3rd, I might pull out. But right now, everything looks peachy. X3
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1120
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Heck yes sign me up!
Gregly
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3316
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Sounds fun!
Hobbittastic
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=14163 (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=14163)
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Sounds like a perfect challenge, I can't wait to hear what the theme is~
otakutaylor
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=513
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With my track record, I probably won't get in, but what the hell.
The BenT One
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3545 (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3545)
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NRG
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=14010
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No Ben. You are automatically IN. Because we like you!!
(and also, everyone's in! :)) No matter how big this gets!
Speaking of which, I need practice making short stories that are actually meant to be short, so:
Mr. Kent
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;area=forumprofile;u=2183
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With my track record, I probably won't get in, but what the hell.
The BenT One
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3545 (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3545)
There is no selection process or maximum number of slots/Artists.........Anyone who is already a VOID Artist can join...Old Members and New Members.....Artists that have killed off all their characters..... Artists who have been very bad and need to redeem themselves or Artists who have joined and haven't had a match yet.......even lurkers can join if they manage to get off their butts and get approved as an Artist in time to sign up....it is the most inclusive event we have had in a VERY long time.
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Sounds Awesome. :)
DeathlySilent
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1180
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this is totally up my street! <3
Fern
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2527
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Okie-dokie. Let me get this straight. Anyone and their mother can join, and in commenting their Void account page bellow will be automatically accepted? The theme is T.B.A. (to be announced) and we cannot portray any current Void approved characters of either our own creation or another members? All characters, plot, and ect. will be up to us to create once we've learned this competitions main theme... Do I have that pretty well understood? 8/
Symon_says
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2564
I've been wanting to get my draw on, just haven't had a good run of the inspires...
,_,
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pretty much what I said and how I said it yes....as long as 'everyone and their mother' is up for a challenge and geared up to make the effort....its still a special VOID event and we take those seriously
*....and I fixed your link
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Here I fucking come...
Psycho Sean
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2128
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This intrigues me and I could use a fun project. Alright. I'm in.
Atomicfish:
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=14018
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ooh, I wanna play too!
Fed
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=11787
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I look forward to getting my ass kicked by all of you.
Rob
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15963
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Ryzel
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=14388
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I come forth from lurking and would like to participate in this event.
SeanJude666
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=295
(P.S - I feel like that link to my profile is wrong. If so I apologize for being internet dumb)
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you aren't the only one....but you are the only one to be aware of it so far
if you don't already know....just open a new tab in your browser when you click on your name to open your profile page and the web address(which should have your VOID ID number at the end) is what is required here
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Fixed mine!
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oh, Heavens, I know I shouldn't since I was in the last one... but I can probably find time to do at least three pages, and I really need to practice limiting my page count anyhow. what the hell.
Animeshen
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=13556
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peer pressure is awesome
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AUGUST. I have time to draw during august this is perfect. Sign me up!
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=13948
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I was just thinking this morning 'man now that I have an assisstant at work I bet I'll have time to do a short comic for Void' and here we are.
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=13967
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Nibbles--http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1219 (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1219)
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Oh deer, I think I need to do this
Crafty
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=13957
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Well, sounds like my calling
Momoless
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15758
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Fuck yeah.
Wutata
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=14042
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Um.
Bobo
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=688
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Sorry, but my schedule suddenly got messy so I have to retract my application.
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sure, why not...
robosockmonkey
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=245
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I literally can't wait for this to start! :O :)
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I literally can't wait for this to start! :O :)
I know right! Five pages is like my sweet spot, and I've kept this page open and hitting refresh to see who's entering. I've checked my equipment (sadly, I've lost my brush pen to predation by children, r.i.p.), re-hooked up my scanner, and figured out what paper I want to use. Been anxiously doing pen tests. Cleaned and organized my work area. Freaked out when I lost internet for the last day and a half.
I'm bouncing in my seat.
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I am glad to hear that..I am certainly thrilled at the number of people who have signed up so far....I hope everyone is as eager and excited as you.
Only a little while left...and then the Match will posted and the theme released.....AND then the fun can start.
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DMDN
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=16461
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OK...sign ups are now closed and we have 29 artists taking part.....almost there...I have put in a request to Bobo to load the match tomorrow and the theme will be released at the same time.
You may be as literal or aliteral as you like and may represent the theme as you choose....but remember it is required that oyu represent the theme in some manner.....and just as with the page count....no screwing around and playing silly buggers or you will be disqualified and considered a default.
....and to reiterate to those who did read the original post and especially for those who didn't.....the focus of this event is to present a fully realized and completely finished comic in 3-5 pages....no defaults or half-assed work!
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29!! what an uncomfortable number lol. if only we got one more.
I AM SO READY TO KNOW THE THEME *vibrates*
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The Mystery Theme is 'BLACK and BLUE'.
I strongly urge people to consider and explore the possibilities for how this will be represented....remember you will have 28 opponents all working on the same thing.....creativity and originality is going to come into play as well as style and skill.
'Black and Blue' can mean different things and be represented in many many different ways....don't just automatically go for the easy answer
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Would a cover page count as an actual page?
Not that I'm planning one, mostly I'm just curious.
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no cover pages or excuse pages......like I said already......no silly buggers....the rules are very simple and straightforward
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Sorry, just a few silly questions here.. You say NO VOID Characters; but I can still place my story in Void if I like, right?
And how far can I push the "NO VOID Characters"-thing? Can I mention them in text? Can I risibly suggest? Can I draw a VOID Character on a t-shirt someone is wearing?
.. or does NO simply mean NO and I should get with the program?
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MAY NOT contain the depiction of any official VOID character including but not limited to those characters owned by the artist or his competitors.
it should be completely and totally obvious from the lengthy description I provided in the original post what is required here...I didn't mince words
This is an artist match....no VOID characters AND in this case no VOID content
get with the program
I don't mind answering questions......this event is a bit different.....but I don't like answering questions that I have already made efforts to answer at length
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Man, this is going to be good. I can't wait to read all 29 of those completed short comics.
You guys just have no excuse to disapoint :D so fun
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Gosh, We're about at the halfway point to the deadline! Hows about a quick update from our battlers on how the comics are progressing? Let's help keep each other motivated to put out the best we can! No spoilers of course!
For mine, I've finished scripting, thumbing, and sketching the pages. But I've had a super busy working long weekend, and have only gotten two panels inked so far. Fortunately this only puts me 1 day behind where I planned to be at (yay for planning ahead) so it won't be hard to catch up. Those establishing panels can be such a pain...
I'm still so curious to find out how everyone made use of the theme~ But we'll save that reveal for the comics themselves! Time to get back to work!
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I was dumb and went "yeah i could take another battle, I'll just do a little one, something equally short and sweet" and then somehow GPS came out of retirement to fight me and my little fight became epic and now I am behind on Black n Blue lol. thumbs are finished as well as HALF of the pencils but I need to get my shit together because this is gonna be some heavy duty inking and I need to start.
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FYI, mine's like super gay y'all 8)
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I'm embarrassingly far behind on mine but it's getting there.. slowly.
Also, somebody else's pages were appearing on my "Submit Comic" page. I don't know if it's happening with anyone else but it seems like something worth addressing. I didn't read them, of course, and deleted them.
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Oh thanks Ahmed, I wouldn't have checked my submit section until last minute.
It seems I am submitting for Mintely??
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd155/smilingsilentlullaby/image_zps1e24e43a.png)
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(http://i58.tinypic.com/2yxrcy9.jpg)
oh weird im having the same problem lol
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Yo, yeh,
Mine is saying, "By Ahmed",
so duude,
you deleted my pages xD;;;
And Kent, I am totally looking forward to yours now.
Mine is super cheesy. It's really takes the "sweet" part of the short and sweet to heart.
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Everyone hang on with the uploading for now... Kevin is going to take a look and see what is going on with that.
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Oh no, we've done it, we broke void. Mostly I'm blaming Rob though..
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Whaaat? No, it's not my fault, Blame the Univer---OH. Oh wait.
Shit.
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I motion to have any incompletes be given a new icon and title that says "I'M A DUMB BABY"
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I motion to have any incompletes be given a new icon and title that says "I'M A DUMB BABY"
I second that motion. please don't let this bite me in the butt lol
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I know what the problem is... just trying to reorient myself with the code.
Temporary setback.
EDIT:
Think I got it. Please let me know if anyone still has an issue.
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I motion to have any incompletes be given a new icon and title that says "I'M A DUMB BABY"
motion passed
(http://www.spiritualtoxin.com/dumb_baby.jpg)
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Wei Ingnan: it will be extremely helpful if EVERYONE would state in comments for match when they have uploaded AND would e-mail the pages to me and Red(make sure to include your username in the e-mail)...this will help us sort out and fix any issues that have or may occour
weiingnan@gmail.com
bdotscotts@gmail.com
this includes people that have already uploaded
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motion passed
(http://www.spiritualtoxin.com/dumb_baby.jpg)
I'M SO HAPPY
better watch out guys >:3
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just trying to reorient myself with the code.
Does it count as "re"-orienting when someone else has come in and torn everything to shreds? It looks like whatever you did fixed it, so I am eternally grateful that you were able to dive into my clearly poorly-written code!
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OK....so we have finally sussed out all of the hiccups and solved all the mysteries....we have never had an event like this one and there were definitely issues and also disapointments.
All of the issues have been worked out and we just need Kevin to make some tweaks and fixes as he is able and it will go up for viewing and voting shortly.....just be a little more patient....this was a very new and very large event.
As for the disapointments, well I will let you each judge and respond individually as you see fit.
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* Not meeting requirements will result in automatic disqualification from Tourney for the Artist as well as the chance to be shamed by all of their peers.
This event has been designed to challenge and educate those that choose to take part....engaging... in... the creation of a fully realized and finished comic within the alotted time and page count ....…..so take it seriously and consider your current situation and abilities before entering…. nobody likes a default
and there we go
(http://www.spiritualtoxin.com/dumb_baby.jpg)
anyone wishing to have the status and icon permanently removed can submit a 3-5 page FINISHED comic of any nature including a 4 week or less deadline and send notification to me once they have done so.
Kent had a finished comic ready (but missed the deadline) and will be doing just this after the voting for the event is over....otherwise he will also receive the same shame
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That... that wasn't part of the rules of the tournament Wei. No one signed up for this battle agreeing to suffer a punishment upon failure. Sure the icon swap is a funny joke, if they could change it back, say once voting is over. But forcing people to draw a comic to change it back? I don't think that should be allowed. Even if the means to get rid of it is literally "do another battle, since that's what we're here to do."
If we agreed to that at the beginning, it would be fine. But no one did. Yes, this tournament was probably one of the hardest attempts void has done on requiring a complete comic. But the motto "death before default" is supposed to encourage attempting even in the face of failure. That only works because there is no direct consequence on the site for trying and being unsuccessful.
If this is something the mods agreed to implement, then you guys need to put an announcement up about this and make it a gradual change. I personally wouldn't mind some amount of consequence to unsuccessful attempts... somehow... but I still haven't yet come up with a means to do so that doesn't simply discourage people from ever drawing here, or anywhere else.
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This is an invasion of privacy.
No one takes stuff like that in contest rules on here seriously. You should have said you were actually going to do something upfront.
Trust me, the self loathing that comes from not finishing a comic on time is shame enough.
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*sigh*
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An invasion of privacy? Not that I think this was fair in any way, but that is just silly.
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I reserve the right to view someone changing my profile without my consent as an invasion of privacy. That's my personal feeling.
I did not agree to literal shaming if I did not upload a comic.
That being said, I will finish my comic, but only because I am still interested in drawing/writing it, and not that it will remove a shaming title.
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You got a new title. No one edited your profile. Even so, what privacy would that be invading? The icon you publicly had displayed is private?
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my personal text was replaced and edited. Elements of my profile were changed based on an arbitrary punishment that I did not agree to.
I am annoyed.
I can be annoyed if I damn well please.
(I already changed my personal text back)
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Well, yeah. You can mad about that. I never said you couldn't. I don't really understand it, but that's your right.
All I pointed out was that it wasn't an invasion of privacy.
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Indeed. Which is why that post is edited now.
I may have overreacted.
However, I will not be keeping the icon as long as I still have the power to change my own icon to whatever I want.
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My civil rights have been violated
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(http://media.tumblr.com/a3fe06f24b8056e1c04c71db41ca50ab/tumblr_inline_n9eo612mSp1r502n6.gif)
*insert forced self deprecating humor here*
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Ok, that's enough pissing and moaning about something that can be fixed with me uploading a comic later.
This is a waste of our time.
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Now, can I tell the story of when Gabe, the creator of void, logged into my account and replaced my avatar with an animated gif of a dick hitting me in the face? And you guys think you have it hard (pun kind of intended)?
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Do you remember the Post Whore icon? Blindwatchmen received it for posting to much cuz of the posting ranking system back then
PS- I should note I actually think the dumb baby icon idea was dumb, everyone just taking themselves to seriously though.
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Now, can I tell the story of when Gabe, the creator of void, logged into my account and replaced my avatar with an animated gif of a dick hitting me in the face? And you guys think you have it hard (pun kind of intended)?
PFFFFFHAHAHAHAHA. TELL THAT STORY JUSTIN!!!
Be sure to include why you deserved it too. I remember you giving me shit for killing the porn jam. You and King Pong all in cahoots makin me maaaaaaad (hahahadon'tevercrossmeagain), but I don't remember why Gabe changed your shit.
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I'm gonna take this as one of those "be careful what you wish for" lessons
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* Not meeting requirements will result in automatic disqualification from Tourney for the Artist as well as the chance to be shamed by all of their peers.
I hate to say it, but the Dumb Baby icons were actually accounted for in the rules that you signed up with
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Oh, it was not.
That is clearly a joke.
If it had said "Not meeting requirements will result in automatic disqualification from Tourney for the Artist as well as being shamed by having your icon and personal title and text in your profile edited with "dumb baby" related imagery. You will have to make a new comic to remove said title and imagry." THEN I would have expected it and not been nearly as annoyed.
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Ben instead of sitting around online complaining about bells and whistles,expounding your moral outrage over a virtual slap on the wrist and always talking about what you are going to do....why don't you take some time instead to actually make a comic like you keep saying over and over again you are going to do......as you already correctly identified that is exactly what will solve this and your other personal issues of frequent defaults(on multiple events no less) right quick.
You might also want to take a little time to learn the lesson that maybe you should be taking things at least a little more seriously.....I really can't see how anyone could be expected to take you, your artwork or what you say seriously when you so clearly don't yourself.....so start taking yourself, what you say and what you do seriously.
I hope that was expressively stated enough for you.
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PFFFFFHAHAHAHAHA. TELL THAT STORY JUSTIN!!!
Actually that is pretty much the story. Though, Gabe and I spent the next few hours switching my icon to the other getting smacked with a dick. Then we grew to mutually respect each other, Gabe told me I had steel balls or some shit, and everyone lived happily ever after. I think it started because I made a joke about one of his robot peeps looking like Bender from Futurama.
And, the Batman wearing a kimono jam was funny as shit. ;D
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they DID say that there was a chance of public shaming :| That's in writing and can be used by whatever means.
One of the major points of this battle was to cut down on defaulting by giving everyone what is essentially a really, REALLY easy task. The fact that nearly 50% of the people who joined could not complete a 3-5 page comic in a month's time is mondo bizarro.
It's a little abrupt these baby icons sure but not completely uncalled for. And the requirements to remove them are, also, really REALLY easy.
Personally if I were the one who defaulted I'd laugh off the dumb baby thing, I think. It's far from a serious insult.
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My butt is hurt
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m94ogowroY1qzoh7no1_500.gif)
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Next Armageddon threat
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Thank you Wei
You have enlightened me about things I could never have possibly understood about myself
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5 pages in 4 weeks .
5 pages in 4 weeks.
5 PAGES IN 4 WEEKS.
and ppl still defaulted?
holy fucking shit
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As someone who didn't participate I hope you don't mind me jumping in here, but I know for one that I could not get a 3-5 page comic done in a month what with how busy I am all of the time. Now I guess you would say "well, if you know that then don't commit!" which totally makes sense, and I agree. But naturally, life throws different things at you at different times which you can't always be expected to anticipate. I can understand that it is disrespectful to your opponents to consistently default, but this is supposed to be a supportive, recreational network for growing artists and I find it quite disappointing to see such blatent bullying from mods.
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I don't mean any disrespect, but a lot of us are definitely busy and still turned things in. I can't speak for anyone else, but I changed my entire schedule for two weeks. Going to bed at midnight and waking up at 6 a.m. so I could go to a cafe and get three hours of drawing in before my desk job, then come home and work my freelance.
Also I implore any dissenters to read Bobo's speech in the battle comments, it's comment #30.
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I totally understand where you are coming from MisterMints, as I have done the same for VOID battles in the past, staying up until 8am every night and making myself ill because I was (if you can believe it) so scared of the backlash of fellow VOIDers. But it doesn't make bullying an acceptable response towards people who perhaps weren't able to do that. I reiterate my comment on how VOID is a recreational network.
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I will state my opinion on this one final time, and then I am going to bed and forgetting about the whole incident.
This is bullshit.
But I will play along, even though I agreed to no such punishment. Not even because I want to finish the comic and get this title removed, but mainly because it seems like I don't have a choice.
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I guess, from my perspective, this whole thing equates to parent grounding their child for not doing a chore before they came home from work. While I agree that void as a whole is recreational, this was a tournament with voluntary sign-ups, a competition with a prize (no a title is not a huge deal, I realize), and - I feel - should probably be taken a little more seriously than a standard battle.
I *do* want to concede, however, that while I think a form of punishment is fine, it could have been done in a better way, though I have no suggestions I can offer to that end.
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Treating people like babies is condescending and disrespectful.
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I've always been told by senior VOID members that you should always put school / work / life ahead of VOID if necessary to manage stress and health, since those things are what's really important, and VOID is a safe community where you can experiment and make mistakes.
That's what I did in this case.
Now I'm being "punished" for it for the first time in 4 years.
I know I said I wouldn't continue on about this, but this is just too important.
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I have full time job too, everyone does, and this is a recreational work sure but honestly? 4 weeks is 28 days, 5 pages... I'm just looking at this from general perspective, it's not IMPOSSIBLE to do it.
Recreational, If everything recreational and free means rules be damned, things are never going to be fun anymore. free/recreational or not, when you agreed on something you should honour/fulfill it as possible as you could, it's just a good mindset to cultivate regardless the importance as it's simply being respectful to your opponent or others recreational time.
And this is not treating people like babies, treating people like babies is if there's no jab whatsoever. I have to admit I haven't been to void for years, and I don't know what the current generation is like, but first-
getting upset because a change in title is kinda strange since it really doesn't affect everything else- but I could be wrong, maybe it does annoy you to such extent but I was wondering 'because I don't have a choice' as if the punishment will affect you in such personal level. Take a good hard look on the whole situation- is it really THAT bad? It's just a title, and I personally don't even realize there WAS a title until it was pointed out.
about bullying- really? i guess most of you guys are from united states because these are pretty much nothing compared to real life comic community around here or in europe.. friendly jabs (that doesn't sound like one often) are common, not like I'm condoning it but for me reading "I fear the backlash." is a bit strange to me
why do you fear the backlash so much, especially from a recreational site?
The 'backlash' does not affect you whatsoever (or shouldn't be), if what's real life is more important than the comics you need to make. You default, cant battle? welp, whatever happened was more important, oh well too bad come back after a while maybe they will let you battle again, I dunno.
I can say this because I defaulted too several times in the past (lol) but whatever came up back then was infinitely more important and I didn't think I needed to 'fear' the backlash. I DO feel bad because I felt as if I agreed to a certain responsibility yet unable to fulfill it. That's more like common sense/ettiquette and again, free/recreational or not, when you agreed on something you should honor/fulfill it as possible as you could, it's just a good mindset to cultivate regardless the importance.
I taught comic classes so I know young artists tend to put EVERYTHINg off until last minute then ask for extension cause pressure tend to give better work, but that's not the problem of the site or the teacher, that's your own problem.. and i think the good thing about entervoid is, if you use the platform well you can definitely improve in either a) time management or b) speed or c) both.
Using the 'recreational, supposed to be fun' excuse every time is valid, however it is also as valid for the site to exercise the rules, and also there's never anything bad in trying to honour your commitments, they can only do you good.
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( fyi i still put everything last minute too, so it's not like I'm blameless lol)
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I joined, I defaulted, I feel stupid about it.
But it's just a picture of baby. We'll live.
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Jho, you've got that wisdom.. but it was actually a 3 page min ;D
Damn, that's like a few hours worth of work in a month.
But it's just a picture of baby. We'll live.
That's why I don't understand the anger over it. Like, who cares?
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damn jho, I forgot I wasnt on tumblr and was straight up looking for a reblog button.
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Well if I had stressed myself out about a VOID battle only to later log in to find myself being called a "dumb baby" it would have been pretty humiliating and upsetting personally. Dunno about you?? And I know the difference between a friendly jab and actually being a dick. You can be accustomed to being as harsh as you want to people but it doesn't mean you can just tack "lol jk" on the end of everything you do and expect to be blameless for every genuinely dick move. Fuck, i work in an animation studio full of men who are always taking jabs at each other but occasionally i still have to be like "oi, you can't actually say things like that." And I totally agree with you on the whole thing about being respectful of rules even in a recreational setting like this but that's literally not what I am talking about - I'm talking about what the mods have done. There's many ways people could have been "punished" (but really? What are you our parents??) but this is equivalent to everyone pointing and laughing at other people's expense. It doesn't really gel with the whole community spirit thing I typically expect from VOID. I would think of all people the mods would be more mature about it.
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Becs has some pretty good points
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sure but fyi, my post was not only directed at you, but also for others so while the whole respect thing is not your point, it bears repeating because lots of people defaults anyway without thinking about their opponent (which pretty much happens all the time since 2002)
the problem that I don't understand is why it needed to be stressed over so hard? I literally don't understand.
IF you worked hard, submitted then get called dumb baby then I can understand how it sucks, heck I will get angry too. but if you defaulted and called dumb baby -PERSONALLY- I won't get offended because hey, shit, I fucked up, whatever.
I guess in the end it's pretty subjective. Like i said, it was all connected- if you put on work everything is fine, if you defaulted then you just have to think about priorities.
I still don't understand how the title change affects people so personally though IF they do fucked up (defaulted).
I still don't understand is why it needed to be stressed over so hard. it's for fun, we sign up to battle for fun (w/ caveat we do commit on finishing)
where the stress came from?
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I don't think you can fault people for being stressed seeing as everyone is different and reacts to pressure differently. If you work in comics maybe you are more accustomed to it. I personally tend to get stressed and anxious at every single thing I ever have to do because it's how my brain is wired up lol.
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Fun fact, the dumb baby picture is of Wei when he was younger.
Much much younger.
Much much much much much much much much younger
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(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Baby+Fights_e804ac_5136747.gif)
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^^ Our next Tournament ^^ (The only question is...does it require intros?)
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Fun fact, the dumb baby picture is of Wei when he was younger.
Much much younger.Much much much much much much much much younger
there should be at least two more 'much' es in there.....at least two more.
Now I am NOT saying that people shouldn't(double negative-fuck off I am tired-I just finished spending a couple hours critiqing all the comics that WERE submitted for this event) feel free to express their thoughts on this matter*...even the people who were not involved...not affected....and have never or would never default...go ahead and express your opinions about this here I am reading everything....I always read and consider everything...have done and will do.
But at the same time I would ask on behalf of the artists who DID in fact submit....also go and review, vote and critique the comics that are up for this event....they deserve it
This site is about making comics and sharing a love of comics....not just sitting around and talking big on a messageboard or a chatroom about alo the things you wish you could or want to do...its about doing and helping people to do it....so go share some love with the people that made some comics.
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic;id=5021
*just clarifying that because so many people are claiming to not have understood me fully or my intentions, read or take seriously what I write or are choosing to misrepresent the facts.
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oh man, it totally smells pussy in here...
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oh man, it totally smells pussy in here...
ha ha..oh Sheldon :D
i sure Miss the trash talk ha ha
Void always was that site,..if your willing to progress and you show that for ya in your works ,then all is cool,if you kept complaining about ''i wanna'' and showed ''i 'm not doing anything''/I'm defaulting'' ..you got burned.
Can't we all just draw and shut up ! and there, when needed help each other.
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oh man, it totally smells pussy in here...
ha ha..oh Sheldon :D
i sure Miss the trash talk ha ha
Void always was that site,..if your willing to progress and you show that for ya in your works ,then all is cool,if you kept complaining about ''i wanna'' and showed ''i 'm not doing anything''/I'm defaulting'' ..you got burned.
Can't we all just draw and shut up ! and there, when needed help each other.
this
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oh man, it totally smells pussy in here...
I was scared Void had changed.
Nope. Ah, memories. Now we just need a few people throwing some 'cacks' around and we're golden.
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It had changed. This is a recent development. There is no such thing as constructive criticism in Australia.
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It had changed. This is a recent development. There is no such thing as constructive criticism in Australia.
Damnit, this is what happens when you let stray Sheldons in then.
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Aw, but he was just so adorable. What were we supposed to do, leave him out in the rain? ;-)
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It had changed. This is a recent development. There is no such thing as constructive criticism in Australia.
It's true, we're all BORN HARD.