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Title: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: E.W. Schneider on Mar 02, 2016, 08:18 PM
What is THE SUPPORT GROUP? It’s what you need. If you’re an artist or a writer who’s developing a webcomic right now and you’re just having trouble breaking through that wall to producing, then this is for you.

The Support Group strives to offer your fellow members in the group encouragement and critique. Each month, you’ll join in and show proof that you’re making some developments towards your passion project. We’re all aiming to be better artists and writers and to make our own mark on the world. However, for some of us, that push into the real-world can be really scary, especially when you see your large comic in terms of Akira-length epics.

That's what this is for. Month to month, you're welcome to join in and work towards a webcomic (or print, or whatever) goal with the rest of us. We'll be doing this like clockwork and this is a bit of an experiment. Hopefully, if we take some baby steps The Support Group can ease you into making a giant footprint in your workload.

So, explain it in detail...
Gladly! The Support Group will be signing up in the first week of the month. If you want in, sign up for it then, because come the 2nd week, we'll be creating the match. No cancellations on it, you're either turning something in or defaulting. You have 4 weeks to create 3 pages. 3 pages, finished of your baby.

This completely doable! Post those pages up when the time is up like a regular battle and share it with the world! Get critique from your fellow participants and voiders and feel good! You just started work on something!

3 pages minimum in a month sure sounds like a lot to me!
Even at the most relaxed schedule to a webcomic release date, you’re going to want to be posting a page a week. If you can do more, do more! If you can’t do 4 pages in a month then you’ve got a real issue somewhere in either the time or your process.

Can I share more than 3 pages if I do more than 3 pages?
Sure, that's all up to you. However, I'm only asking for 3 pages.

What if I don't have 3 pages? What if I have nothing?!
I guess sign back up when you're ready? You'll get a default like any other battle or a low score like any other battle.

What if real-life happens to me?
Then just let one of the mods know to remove you. I don't think any of us will dispute something serious and while this is to help you to work, the name is right in the title. This is The Support Group and we want to make sure you're doing things that make a positive step in your goal until you're ready to fly on your own once you've hit the rhythm.

Can I join in? What if I left? Can I come back?
Yes, yes, yes. You can join in whenever you want to join in. If you left and need to come back, we're more than happy to have you involved.

When do we start?
Since this first one is a LITTLE late in the start of it, we're going to have sign up continue on until Saturday. We'll begin on this Sunday (the 6th of March). If you're wanting to get involved, it's time to sign up.

This is your opportunity to work on something for yourself! I'm glad to see anyone sign up if they need help!

So sign up!

1. Charlie
2. Jetster
3. Mortooncian
4. Radji
5. Saburu
6. OberonGoat
7. ZigZagaroo
8. Mr. Kent
9. Choleric
10. Shen
11. Gregly
12. Sid_Bane
13. Crafty
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Chimaeric on Mar 02, 2016, 08:20 PM
sign me upppp
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: mortooncian on Mar 02, 2016, 08:21 PM
SIGN ME UP TOOOOO
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Dansome on Mar 02, 2016, 08:44 PM
Question: The comic can be anything right? Like it doesn't necessarily have to be the webcomic you're doing, and can just be prep stuff? Would that include fan comics or this has to be a strictly original kind of comicker thing?
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: mortooncian on Mar 02, 2016, 08:48 PM
Yes!!!

Anything that can help counts. Long as its three pages, well, not three blank pages.

So long as it helps, and you make your personal work-- even if its sketches-- you're right on the money!!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: KarmaLarma on Mar 02, 2016, 09:01 PM
Sssuper interested in this but got a question too. I've got a story I'm working on still in its baby stages and I'm still not certain of the look I want for the comic yet. Would "test pages" that aren't necessarily going to make the final cut of the comic count? I don't mean like little scribbled out thumbnail type ones, but fully finished ones to experiment with the style and mood of the comic/how the characters look, but may not end up actually being used if I decide I'd like to do it a different way.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: mortooncian on Mar 02, 2016, 09:05 PM
I asked Eric and I think that's a great idea, because this way, everyone can give you input and give you feedback on the direction you're going before you settle on your webcomic/personal project!


After all, regardless, you were going to test out how the pages were gonna look and feel, right? So it's progress!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: KarmaLarma on Mar 02, 2016, 09:09 PM
Sounds good! I'll sign up too then.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: neens on Mar 02, 2016, 09:15 PM
http://viasignup.viacom.com/AnimatedPitches/Pages/Welcome.aspx (http://viasignup.viacom.com/AnimatedPitches/Pages/Welcome.aspx)

yo! I've posted about it in the chat, but if you weren't aware, Nickelodeon is accepting pitches for animated shorts until April 15th. this is my current project and I'm encouraging others to submit. you'll notice that they accept the standard boards/animatics, and also, COMIC PAGES! so basically I'm hoping to work on a pitch alongside someone else who is also pitching.

anyway, for me, I think I may go the traditional route and put together boards, possibly an animatic. what would be a good amount for the monthly challenge?
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Syraxis on Mar 02, 2016, 09:16 PM
I might be up for this, I need something to help keep me in line with work
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: E.W. Schneider on Mar 02, 2016, 09:21 PM
I don't know a thing about boards or animatics, but since you have a deadline for April 15th, I think you have quite a bit to do and this would be your whole project for the month.

The final day for this would be April 3rd? Maybe try to get 1/2 of your goal done? But otherwise, I think boards/animatics would be just fine in this case.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Charlie on Mar 02, 2016, 09:43 PM
Cool this sounds like a relaxed spin on what I tried to get started years ago. While I wont be able to sign up this month (more freelance came my way) maybe down the road. Good luck guys!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on Mar 02, 2016, 11:35 PM
COUNT ME THE FUCK IN
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Animeshen on Mar 03, 2016, 12:25 AM
Ok im in but im gonna do like Karma and post test/proof of concept pages first until my story is ready
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Radji on Mar 03, 2016, 12:58 AM
Count me in
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Wubble on Mar 03, 2016, 03:00 AM
hit me up
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on Mar 03, 2016, 03:01 AM
Along the lines of pitches, I also know that on the 15th of May,  hiveworks is opening up submissions for webcomics!

So that could also be something people are interested in!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Minteh on Mar 03, 2016, 08:02 AM
I lied about not joining this till next month, SIGN ME the fuck UP!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sean on Mar 03, 2016, 12:06 PM
Sign me up? Maybe? Sure? Oh golly!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Coatl on Mar 03, 2016, 12:14 PM
Im in it
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Dansome on Mar 05, 2016, 05:42 PM
Aw GEEZ, I forgot to sign up! I'd like to join, if time hasn't expired.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Kozispoon on Mar 05, 2016, 09:17 PM
I gotta sign up or I wont get any of my 'oh man I should do that!' work done. XD I'M IN
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Chimaeric on Mar 06, 2016, 01:05 PM
just a suggestion but maybe we can do two 2-week rounds per month; one round for new material and comments and critiques, and the 2nd round for implementation for critiques from last round.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on Mar 06, 2016, 02:42 PM
just a suggestion but maybe we can do two 2-week rounds per month; one round for new material and comments and critiques, and the 2nd round for implementation for critiques from last round.

^^^^^^

I say for this round, we implement Rofl's way, and next time we try out Jong's. That way we can see what works best.

Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Gregly on Mar 06, 2016, 05:11 PM
could you sign me up too if i'm in time?
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on Mar 08, 2016, 03:39 PM
Is this still happening or is Rofl really busy saving the Queen or some shit

If not, I'll ask bobo to put us artists in a sparring match type thing and set it til the end of the month :3
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: E.W. Schneider on Mar 10, 2016, 12:16 PM
Sorry, sorry! This is still happening, just couple things happened. We'll still be going, it'll be up soon enough.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Gregly on Mar 11, 2016, 09:31 PM
Should we talk about our projects too before we start?

I'm going to work on a webcomic I've wanted to continue for a while now. I actually drew the first ten pages about two years ago, but I wasn't sure about the title and some of the smaller details so didn't go further. I'm going to post those ten pages for feedback, and do at least three more before the deadline!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on Mar 12, 2016, 03:29 AM
Good idea, Gregly!

I too, want to start a webcomic but I always backtrack or lose interest after a few pages. NOT THIS TIME, I actually have the first chapter written down and planned out. My goal for this month is to have it all thumbed out, at least 3 pages completely done, and a few pages sketched out.

I'm currently unemployed so this should be doable lol
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Minteh on Mar 12, 2016, 08:51 AM
I want to use this as an opportunity to practice things like coloured pages within time limits. I know I can draw, but my speed of working on colours is pitifully slow and inefficient. I've been too scared to work on colours in matches, so it's a good chance to experiment.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Radji on Mar 12, 2016, 08:53 AM
I originally drew the adventures of Skully and Lappy for the school's comics fanzine. So why not webcomics later?
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sean on Mar 12, 2016, 09:01 AM
This is gonna be for my travelogue comic zine about my adventures out west and back. Slice of life type stuff based on true events.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: mortooncian on Mar 12, 2016, 10:36 AM
Mine will be pages for my current webcomic (http://comicide.smackjeeves.com/)! Admittedly, when I submit it, there may be some context lost, but this should drive me to do more pages, a lot faster [peer pressure!].
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: neens on Mar 12, 2016, 12:08 PM
I'll be working on my nickelodeon pitch, so it won't be a comic but I'll try and arrange the boards in a standard page format!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Animeshen on Mar 12, 2016, 03:07 PM
I've been trying to motivate myself to work on this pirate-themed webcomic for a year but right now the characters feel hollow and the story is full of holes, Im trying not to make a huge epic monster of a tale that takes 30 years to tell 1 page a week since this is a sort of adventure comedy but there needs to be SOME sort of story so i'm working on simplifying it.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: E.W. Schneider on Mar 12, 2016, 04:15 PM
And we're live! Thank you, Kevin! (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic;id=5584)

Good luck to all my support groupers this month!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Coatl on Mar 12, 2016, 04:29 PM
ok which stories should I tackle?

Cleopatra: A rich girl is trying to change herself as bet she can but dormant is a malicious, manipulative, vain persona that temps her.

SPN (Tentative Title): A boy finds out that he carries the power of darkness, he meets a girl who carries the power of light and together, they try to find a way to properly control their abilities while saving their town from monsters!

Cosplay Story: a farmtown boy moves to the city to find Anime fans but ends up befriending 3 cosplayers after they save him from getting jumped in a back alley

Lucha Libre: El Victor is a Lucha Libre legend but his status is about to catch up on him when he is invited to a small town that's overrun by mysterious creatures
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Wubble on Mar 13, 2016, 07:03 AM
I'll be working on my webcomic/book mixture, so I will be turning in more pages.

I will be doing a hybrid of pure text and comic, where most things will be in text form, I will be appending a lot with illustrations and some sequential arts to reinforce reveals, help make fast moments go fast and so on. I will be starting with a one-shot comic set in the world to test the 'technique'.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Kozispoon on Mar 19, 2016, 02:00 PM
Oooh, we sharing? ok.

I've been grappling with doing slice of life/story based webcomickness for quite some time and finally decided if some of my favorite web comic artists can do both, so can I.

For the story based comic, I've got this suuuuper old comic idea I did back in high school which I think has some merit to rework.  A spunky elvish redhead with her willowy best friend whose called to a higher purpose. I have the story more or less mapped out, but its the ending that I'm stuck on. How to wrap it all up? I'm hoping just diving in and getting some pages out will help in figuring that out.

Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: E.W. Schneider on Mar 29, 2016, 11:37 PM
With 10 days left until this current cycle of Support Group is ending, I just wanted to say we'll have sign ups ready for the next incarnation and we're going to try something different with the next one to better understand the most effective way we can do this.

Choleric suggested that we try 2 2-weekers and see how it feels, so we'll do that and then determine which one feels better. We can also either start the next Support Group immediately this one is put up OR wait a week for feedback and then put up the next Support Group. Whichever you guys feel is better.

Either way, signs up are open for the next one now, so if you wanted in, now's a great time to join up.


EDIT: It's also worth mentioning that Bobo's Pulpito (http://entervoid.com/index.php?topic=13010.0) is currently accepting submissions, so this would be a terrific opportunity to work towards something. You all should really do something for it and you've got a motivator to help you along if you need it.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Charlie on Mar 30, 2016, 12:00 AM
Not sure how much I would have ready in the first 2 weeker, but I will still put my name in for it anyway. I have been working on the revamp of my comic Shina and Roboface that I did last year for 24 hour comics day, so that's what I will probably keep working on. I think I have expanded on the comic so far by 12 pages for the first chapter but I want to rework some more.

Or I may work on a smaller idea first for something I wanted to do later in the year, or Panda Girl one of the three.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Jetty Jay on Mar 30, 2016, 01:24 AM
I have comic projects coming out my butt at the moment so please count me in on this.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: mortooncian on Mar 30, 2016, 01:47 AM
count me in again! : )
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Elyan on Mar 30, 2016, 12:56 PM
i hope this will be a complete regular event. i can join earliest at may but i think it might help me.

its a great idea so thanks for whoever got the idea and those who helped working on the concept.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: E.W. Schneider on Mar 30, 2016, 12:57 PM
i hope this will be a complete regular event. i can join earliest at may but i think it might help me.

its a great idea so thanks for whoever got the idea and those who helped working on the concept.

As far as I can tell, this will be done every month for anyone who needs it.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Radji on Mar 30, 2016, 12:58 PM
i shall be there again.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on Mar 31, 2016, 05:54 AM
Sign me up again!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Wubble on Mar 31, 2016, 05:57 AM
2x2weeks is a no-go for me sadly, so I won't be signing for this round
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: E.W. Schneider on Apr 12, 2016, 10:08 PM
Hey, we'll be starting round 2 of this soon, so if you want in, time to sign up!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: OberGoat on Apr 12, 2016, 11:25 PM
I think I'd like to participate this time around, so count me in!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: ZigZagaroo on Apr 13, 2016, 08:39 AM
Alright, sign me up. However I'd just like to point out won't be doing this to necessarily start a webcomic, this will just be my attempt at figuring out my comic making process, and of course the critique (if it doesn't go against the rules that is).
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on Apr 13, 2016, 04:21 PM
That's totally ok :3 I hope you do well!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Mister Kent on Apr 13, 2016, 06:57 PM
Methinks I'm in
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: ZigZagaroo on Apr 13, 2016, 07:05 PM
That's totally ok :3 I hope you do well!

Thanks Sabu! I'll do my best
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Chimaeric on Apr 13, 2016, 09:06 PM
im in again. Round 2 mofuggas
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Animeshen on Apr 13, 2016, 09:30 PM
shit. i wasnt gonna cuz Im behind on a lot of things but if i actually want to start a webcomic i need more than two pages. ok im back in.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Gregly on Apr 14, 2016, 03:19 AM
yeah chuck me back in as well for the next one plz!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sid_Bane on Apr 14, 2016, 01:25 PM
Hey! I know I haven't been on here in a long-ass time, but would you mind if I joined in for round 2 of this support group?
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Crafty on Apr 15, 2016, 12:08 AM
Sabu pressured me to do this so sign me up for the next one I will be working on my webcomic baby :0
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: E.W. Schneider on Apr 17, 2016, 03:39 AM
Hey! I know I haven't been on here in a long-ass time, but would you mind if I joined in for round 2 of this support group?

Absolutely we want to see you doing stuff!

I'm gonna start this tomorrow. Just to remind everyone, the setup is a little different this time, it'll be 2 2 week periods. After this, we'll determine which one we like better.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: OberGoat on Apr 17, 2016, 12:25 PM
I know last time the page number to shoot for was at least 3, is there a page number this time around? Like 2 pages for each 2 week period? Or is it just kind of get as many done as you can?
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on Apr 18, 2016, 03:33 AM
I know last time the page number to shoot for was at least 3, is there a page number this time around? Like 2 pages for each 2 week period? Or is it just kind of get as many done as you can?

I'm not aware of any page minimum, but if you look at the last round, a few people didnt even submit three. Do as much as you can, and I guess be aware of your limits and what you can push. Its important to be honest with yourself if you can't submit as much as you set yourself, and make adjustments!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: E.W. Schneider on May 12, 2016, 09:49 PM
Hey, I'm not going to be able to support (ho ho ho!) this Support Group anymore. If anyone wants to run it, by all means go for it. You guys have been using it to full effect so I hope that you manage to come together and keep doing it. Position's open!
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on May 12, 2016, 10:19 PM
I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE. If you don't mind Rolf, I might make a separate post for this just to reorganise a few things. Would it be cool, if I can copy paste some stuff from the original post to make it?
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Charlie on May 12, 2016, 10:34 PM
I volunteer as well to help out with this since its basically like a continuation of what I tried to kickstart on here long ago. I don't mind helping Sab with if she is okay with that, in case either of us get busy and all.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on May 13, 2016, 03:45 AM
I volunteer as well to help out with this since its basically like a continuation of what I tried to kickstart on here long ago. I don't mind helping Sab with if she is okay with that, in case either of us get busy and all.

I am down for assistance and suggestions. We can be partners in crime

Except instead of crime, we assist people reach their goals within a small period of time, which MIGHT involve crime.
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Animeshen on May 13, 2016, 03:36 PM
im sure i dont need to suggest this but here it is anyhow, a short respite before the next support group, since many of the people involved with it are busy in heavyweight now lol
Title: Re: THE SUPPORT GROUP (for one-shots, web-comics, and doing more things!)
Post by: Sabulive on May 15, 2016, 07:35 PM
Will update this page as soon as Heavyweight Round 1 is over!