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I Just Want To Talk
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Uploaded August 25, 2016
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Animeshen's avatar
Animeshen
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8 years ago
I'm too close to these to properly critique so Im just going to sit here sobbing about how beautiful they were and how nice all the colours were and how much my poor husbando bleed in these Hunter you are too good and pure for Void and you need to leave the crazy girls alone they will ruin you. I will agree with Rhimwell that with dialogue you both need to be very careful to condense how much you want to say so it doesnt become to text heavy, what you can get across simply with few words so things dont get too wordy or repetetive. I say this knowing full well I dont always practice what I preach XD Fu, Im coming for you~
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PyrasTerran
Writer
8 years ago
Good job overall, for homework for next battle both of you need to practice facial variations as your faces are looking very same-y. it might be tempting to battle a character with radically different face from your characters but I say challenge yourself and find another pretty young adult archetype and try to see how different you can make them look from each other, remember chin, nose, eyes and especially skull shape
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Void City Phantom
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8 years ago
I've been anticipating the comments for the entire day and I really appreciate the feedback I've received back so far! Despite mixed feelings about how my side turned up, I'm glad people seem to be enjoying the comic and giving the reactions I wanted. @Rhim, You know ever since I've started on the script for this comic, there has always been a part of me that was not feeling how the script was and and how kind of awkward it sounded even while I was working on the art itself. I thought it was just slight paranoia at first but now I see that's actually the case. I know now that's something I definitely need to work on for the future so thank you for pointing that out! Also thank you for the advice on the panel construction. I'm still kind of experimenting as to how I want the panel layout (I can't be satisfied with one style at a time..) but that sounds like a pretty useful technique to use. I shall try it out in the next comic :D @Kozi, I'm still trying to comprehend what I'm getting from your critique but I'm guessing its regarding the characterization? Which happens to be the next thing after the script writing that was worrying on my mind. While I never intended for The Fool to be a completely stoic character, I was really worried just by how dramatic I was portraying her in this comic and if I completely took it too far. I was intending on making this story dramatic as could be but it didn't occur to me that there should be a limit :x I was intending this comic to both be a breaking point for this fool and also showcase just how horrible she is dealing with her mess of emotions. Her stoic and tough face is nothing but a mask for her true self, which I tried to hint at in that last page you mentioned about. Everything that came out of Hunter's mouth happened to perfectly push all of her sensitive buttons here compared to the other comics and being the mess that she is, its not something she can brush off so easily like how she can in the previous comics (sans the one Vs Dawa since another one of her buttons was pushed there also). BUT OF COURSE after looking at the comic again, I feel there may have been a better way to portray this compared to how the comic turned out and how I /should've/ characterized her more better in the previous comics so that this doesn't come off as jarring as it seems to be. So actually thank you for bringing this up also, since it got me thinking about how I should characterize these guys.. also that "I'm the Reaper" panel was totally intentional. I wanted that part to look cool and considering how anime trash I am, I thought that was the coolest way possible haha.
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Corn Of The Breads
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8 years ago
I really like the dichotomy between the two characters and how each plays with the theme of choosing ones own life or death, though I did feel one comic was a bit more organic in terms of dialog while the other was a bit more cliched and akward, if I had to critique both Id say Storm relies a bit heavily on close ups and it makes the comic really feel back and forth, and for Fukur0 Id suggest some more landmarks in the scenes that the characters are interacting with or a little more texture the world feels very empty even for a lonely night some more mood of the world these characters live in to get us invested would have helped push some aspects.
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Stormcrow
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8 years ago
To everyone who's commented to far, thank you so much! I'm really glad that people are enjoying the comic; I tried to keep things a little bit shorter this time and focus on making the art richer instead of going for length, and I'm really happy looking at it now despite spending most of the working time with 'I've been staring at this so long that I'm not sure if I love it or hate it' effect. In particular I'm really happy that people enjoyed the backgrounds; I know that trees are a bit of a cop-out compared to buildings since I can just waffle them in there without having to worry as much about consistency or variation, but I feel like they can really hold up to the figures this time around and I'm excited about that. Experimenting more with lighting and shading on them was a lot of fun, and I'll do my best to try and bring that level of work to buildings for the next fight. Rhim, I see what you mean about tightening up the dialogue and the space it's spread out over-- rereading the whole thing, I'm really struck by how BIG some of the text is and realize I could have either had a lot more being said or condensed it all a lot. One of my goals this fight was to reduce my number of pages by cutting down on my tendency for pages with three giant panels and so on, and I think I need to keep juggling with how much content I can properly fit on a page. Thank you so much for the advice, it's definitely something that I'll try to nail a bit better next time! Kozi, I'm really thrilled to hear that you think the flow of the fight was a bit better story-wise; I know that in past fights it had been a repeated critique that things didn't really build at the fight pace, or that things fell a bit flat at the end action-wise, and it's really encouraging to hear that this one felt better in that regard. I'm super glad that fucking Hunter up on page 1 was a good move after all-- I was really uncertain about that, because I thought having action right at the start transitioning into talking might leave the fight feeling wierd and lopsided, so it's great to hear that was appealing after all. Definitely agree on the characters having some major sameface going on with regards to guyface and girlface; I've gotten much too reliant on 'angular face = guy, smooth face = girl', and it's actually Gray who makes me notice it the most since she canonically has that very defined face shape and I realized trying to match that in my art makes her look very guy-ish. I think this semester at school I'm going to be really trying to focus on that and develop more facial variety in my work, so with luck by winter break that should be less of a problem (and is a good excuse to practice on a lot of Void characters, haha). Thank you so much for taking the time to crit me, and I'll do my best to bring things up another level by the next fight!
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Stormcrow
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8 years ago
Shoot me RIGHT IN THE FACE I uploaded the wip file for one page rather than the final SORRY EVERYONE
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Kozispoon
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8 years ago
Even from the thumbnails alone, its clear you two brought it all the way to the limit. No cutting corners or half assed pages here! Also seeing them side by side, even though both stories are at night, you two took your color palates a completely different way. I dig fukur0's cool colors next to Stormcrows warm colors. Anyhoodle, onto critiques! STORMCROW- This was such a pleasant surprise to the last confrontational comic I got to see from you. Where you floundered before and kind of fumbled with Hunter vs Beo you came out guns blazing jumping us right into the action. OR rather, daggers slashing! This is the kind of void comic comeback I like to see- not to mention getting me on the edge of my seat wondering if Hunter's ok right off the bat. The panel where the phone is dropped and all we see is Gray on the call no doubt wondering what the hell happened was really great. Maybe its just me, but that's a real and relatable fear that I think anyone would dread of their loved ones. I had to do a doubletake and was disappointed to find this wasn't a scar match. The injuries these two sustained would've been cool to carry over into future matches. Who knows, maybe you will despite it all. I certainly hope so. I think if I had anything to nitpick it'd be your characters. You have a very distinct 'guy face' and 'girl'face' you use regardless of who you battle. It leaves most of your characters looking the same, only wearing a Gray costume, or Fool costume. I'd encourage you to go out, sit at a cafe and look at peoples faces. Really study the different shapes, profiles and proportions and infuse that in your comic work. FUKUR0- Suicide is a touchy subject, even more so tackling such a real issue in such a high fantasy setting such as void. Maybe I went in with some pre conceptions, or expectations, but I didn't expect The fool to be so dramatic about it. Don't get me wrong, if that's her character and she's int the tears and bittersweet last words before going into the drink, go for it- but based off of what I've read of her via your previous battles, she struck me as more straight lined than that. Like when she makes that deadpan comment about him using a butterknife on her- THAT'S her. Or the her I expect in your comics. Not the one for flowery speeches as she clings to Hunters arm and the like. I noticed that with your portrayal of Hunter as well. The panel where he dramatically looks up and exclaims "I"m a reaper" gave me some theatrical anime throwback vibes, and again- fine ,but I wonder if that was your intent?
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Rhimwill
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8 years ago
These are both lovely, art-wise! Very professional looking and polished C: Fukur0, your coloring is stunning and I love your characters' facial acting. And Stormcrow, I especially love your backgrounds and environments. To Both: I appreciate that both of these stories are of emotional conversations, and therefore naturally dialogue-heavy productions, but I feel like there needed to be a little more editing and tightening up of the scripts. Stormcrow, in your comic's case I think the spot that would benefit most from tightening up would be where the bulk of the conversation takes place in pages 2-7. I think that you could cut that section down from 6 pages to, at most, 5 by consolidating some of the head-shot panels into single panels containing both characters, and cutting out some of the less necessary dialogue. I understand that it's supposed to be a slow-paced scene, but I think we need to get to Fool's outburst and Hunter sharing his backstory more quickly, because that is where most of the story's conflict takes place. Fukur0, in your comic's case, I see a lot of very full speech-bubbles. There's a lot of dialogue going on, and it's all very interesting dialogue that I enjoyed reading, however some of the lines, especially Hunter's lines, are very long. See if there are ways you could have him say the same things, but with fewer words. Also, a lot of the dialogue is awkwardly worded and doesn't feel like natural speech. It would be good in the future to have a friend read your comics before they are finished to see if your writing seems natural to them, or to read it out loud to yourself and see if any of the lines make you stumble over the words. Also, this is just a nitpick, but, Fukur0, the panel borders in your pages are very uneven, and in some places this helps heighten the sense of emotional drama happening in the story, but other places it's not as nice-looking. From what I can tell, it seems like you're hand-drawing them individually with the line tool in Photoshop, or whatever program you're using, is that correct? This might be a better way to do it to make the borders cleaner: fill an entire layer with black, then carve out the gutters between the panels by shift-clicking with the eraser tool. Depending on the layout of the page, it's best to start with the horizontal gutters and drag the eraser all the way across the page so they line up properly. Select all the black panels that have just been formed, and contract the selection by however many pixels you want the panel borders to be thick, then press delete. You'll be left with lovely, even, empty panels. I totally agree with everybody's rave reviews! You guys are doing great! :D
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Radji
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8 years ago
heeesh I give equal amount of points to you both. Great colors, good stories, MARVELOUS drama.... your takes on the other's character are really cool, both in their way, and the philosophy is so Voidesque i could cry.
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lanternlovers
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8 years ago
I GOT NO CRITS KEEP DOIN WHAT YALL DOING BOOS
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petarvee
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8 years ago
Both of you guys really brought your A-Game and it shows! Normally, I'd drop some personalized crits, but honestly, you guys just keep doin you and you're bound to improve!
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Ish
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8 years ago
MAN THIS WAS AMAZING! BOTH OF YOU! When I get home I'll write a more detailed comment but WOOOHOOO!
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Void City Phantom
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8 years ago
I love how we've practically seen each other's battle but that still doesn't cease our excitement over this battle. Even with all the stuff that's happened during the past three weeks, I'm glad to finally get this battle over with, especially since I've been waiting for this since the time I came in. I know there's parts I should've worked on better BUT I'm still so giddy over these comics. Thank you for being my first challenger and letting me RIP HUNTER APART. I'd like to do this again, yes :)
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Stormcrow
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8 years ago
Ahhhh, I can't believe it's done! Fu, I know we've already seen a lot of each others' comics just from the drawing process, but this was a lot of fun and I really enjoyed putting this battle together. I really hope we'll get the chance to do more with these guys in the future, so PLEASE DONT KILL HER OFF YET LOL Thanks for a really fun fight!
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Ish's avatar
Ish
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8 years ago
Oh dear I am hyped already!
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ScaryWaves
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8 years ago
This has me hyped to 11. Give it your all!
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William_Duel
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8 years ago
Mm Mm I am sensing some baby mama drama in the future. We gonna get Grey and the Fool on Montel at some point.
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JCee
Inker
8 years ago
Oooh man! Looking forward to reading this!
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Animeshen
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8 years ago
I'M HAVING SO MANY EMOTIONS I CANT DEAL WITH HOW MUCH I WANT TO READ THESE COMICS
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