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Cue vs Everose Lovehaven
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Uploaded August 09, 2012
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Elenied
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12 years ago
Charlie: Haha look, I will admit, I was being an asshole :). I'm not going to contest that because you guys are calling me out on it and I know I was. I'm also not gonna further lay into him after this post, as after this i'll have I've said my two cents and aim to move on- but I will clarify that I've seen this guys work for over a year now over at War For Arcadia / Hollow City and each time it is getting progressively more half-assed. I think it is simply unfair to the opponents he faces and despite receiving advice on this stuff it doesn't seem to be making any real noticeable improvement. The cutesy little pat of 'this was good but this needs to be fixed' doesn't seem to be registering so I got fed up lol. So while I wouldn't consider us friends he is not an unknown to me and thus that is why I said what I did. Anyway I told Kura I wouldn't keep posting in here so this is the last one I'll be making on this fight. ....i would say i have improved since i started aracdia so i will disagree, perhaps not in the comic wise but with my faces and anatomy and males.
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Charlie
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12 years ago
Haha look, I will admit, I was being an asshole :). I'm not going to contest that because you guys are calling me out on it and I know I was. I'm also not gonna further lay into him after this post, as after this i'll have I've said my two cents and aim to move on- but I will clarify that I've seen this guys work for over a year now over at War For Arcadia / Hollow City and each time it is getting progressively more half-assed. I think it is simply unfair to the opponents he faces and despite receiving advice on this stuff it doesn't seem to be making any real noticeable improvement. The cutesy little pat of 'this was good but this needs to be fixed' doesn't seem to be registering so I got fed up lol. So while I wouldn't consider us friends he is not an unknown to me and thus that is why I said what I did. Anyway I told Kura I wouldn't keep posting in here so this is the last one I'll be making on this fight.
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Elenied
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12 years ago
Kozispoon: MAJKURA: Great story, great setting. I was familiar with your fighter, but haven't been pulled to read your battles, so not only am I pleasantly surprised by the quality of the storytelling here, but it's left me poring through your history to see more! Well done. ELENIED- I REALLY hope Charlie is a friend of yours because getting that kind of response from a total stranger is disgusting. I think Julienya made some good suggestions in regards to getting as much reference you can find. I also encourage you to review some of VOIDs previous winners of battles to check out their manner of storytelling. nope i dont think ive ever met him in my life although i have seen his artwork from time to time, i dont mind the comments cuss I like his art.
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12 years ago
MAJKURA: Great story, great setting. I was familiar with your fighter, but haven't been pulled to read your battles, so not only am I pleasantly surprised by the quality of the storytelling here, but it's left me poring through your history to see more! Well done. ELENIED- I REALLY hope Charlie is a friend of yours because getting that kind of response from a total stranger is disgusting. I think Julienya made some good suggestions in regards to getting as much reference you can find. I also encourage you to review some of VOIDs previous winners of battles to check out their manner of storytelling.
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deactivated
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12 years ago
We're not offended, we want you to improve.
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Elenied
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12 years ago
Julienya: Wow Kura, awesome job on the story :D I'm left hanging here! It could use color, but I was entertained thoroughly. And Elenied, I can see that you try really hard on the heads and faces, but you do need to work on there bodies. There are a lot of good books and reference material. For instance, I like to use kxhara http://kxhara.deviantart.com/ Another thing you could work on is the composition of your comic, or where things are to eachother. I've been using books to teach me how to work on that. Consider reading Scott McCloud's books, which you could buy or rent. Please practice more, as we would all love to see your improved works!Charlie: Part 2: Page 3 Panel 1 - what the hell is going on. am I guessing that Cue is actually falling? Okay so now I'm starting to finally get the point that this park is inside for some reason because I see a door - whereas on page 1 I wasn't quite sure if you were really lazy at drawing buildings or thought we lived in a box. Even then I am still not sure. Perhaps thats just a path to get to a spot that is inside. I still have no real idea where the fuck this setting is. also the composition on this panel is just plain bad. Panel 2 - I think my prior theory about Cue's legs getting cut in half were right because her proportions are incredibly bad here. I get that Cue is supposed to be a tiny fairy but her proportions are just plain wrong all the way here. Panels 3, 4, and 5 - I won't even get into these. I just won't. Panel 6 - and then we see a trash can. Why the hell do we see a trashcan. There was no leadup or buildup to just seeing a trash can. Why is it so important? I know we make sense of it on the next page, but there is no panel showing the action at all. It is not apparent/clear right off the bat because it comes out of left field. Honestly you'd have been better off NOT putting this panel in there at all because the next page does a much better job at showing that entire part. Page 4- Damn. Again. Those proportions are bad. Again this page would have been better if the trashcan from the previous page was shown here more in full. Because just a single panel of the trash can on the previous page wasn't necessary. Now we've got a trashcan top coming out of a panel underneath and its like why? Why couldn't you have planned out the page to show more visual information other than to show your character has really ungodly long legs. And I mean that's coming from -me-. You can be gratuitous in what you are drawing if you so desire, because fuck that if I am gonna stop you, as long as you are still showing all the key information a reader will need. Because if I saw this page and only the top of it, cutting out the bottom, I'd still be wondering what the hell is going on. Is she being dropped into a laundry basket? Is she being dropped on a grill? Is she being dropped on some sort of radioactive super fucking fantastic super-power giving barrel of goo? I can't tell what that is from the top of the page. Then that last panel is terrible too. Now for some technical aspects - One - your font sucks. Get a better font. You can look at blambot.com for a better one. Two - your word bubbles suck. Also where are the tails of the word bubbles? Again it just looks like you used MSpaint for them. Three - Your story is terrible. It makes very little sense and I have no real clue what you were actually trying to do here beyond having someone naked and licking other people. I have a feeling this is more of a fetish comic than anything else. Which I mean if thats what you want to do then fine, whatever, just at least make it make better sense than this. Four - the gutters on the pages are huge. There is a TON of wasted space on the pages that you could have used for drawing. Five - your compositions are in need of a lot of work. I am not just talking page layouts either, I mean the actual compositions of your drawings. Unfortunately I can't help you with that I'd be here forever - you'd have to go look it up. Six - Resize your pages because these are massive and annoying to view...and my monitor is huge. There. This was a total waste of my time to write but here you go anyway :v. sorry i did not mean to make anyone be offended
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Julz
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12 years ago
Wow Kura, awesome job on the story :D I'm left hanging here! It could use color, but I was entertained thoroughly. And Elenied, I can see that you try really hard on the heads and faces, but you do need to work on there bodies. There are a lot of good books and reference material. For instance, I like to use kxhara http://kxhara.deviantart.com/ Another thing you could work on is the composition of your comic, or where things are to eachother. I've been using books to teach me how to work on that. Consider reading Scott McCloud's books, which you could buy or rent. Please practice more, as we would all love to see your improved works!
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Charlie
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12 years ago
Part 2: Page 3 Panel 1 - what the hell is going on. am I guessing that Cue is actually falling? Okay so now I'm starting to finally get the point that this park is inside for some reason because I see a door - whereas on page 1 I wasn't quite sure if you were really lazy at drawing buildings or thought we lived in a box. Even then I am still not sure. Perhaps thats just a path to get to a spot that is inside. I still have no real idea where the fuck this setting is. also the composition on this panel is just plain bad. Panel 2 - I think my prior theory about Cue's legs getting cut in half were right because her proportions are incredibly bad here. I get that Cue is supposed to be a tiny fairy but her proportions are just plain wrong all the way here. Panels 3, 4, and 5 - I won't even get into these. I just won't. Panel 6 - and then we see a trash can. Why the hell do we see a trashcan. There was no leadup or buildup to just seeing a trash can. Why is it so important? I know we make sense of it on the next page, but there is no panel showing the action at all. It is not apparent/clear right off the bat because it comes out of left field. Honestly you'd have been better off NOT putting this panel in there at all because the next page does a much better job at showing that entire part. Page 4- Damn. Again. Those proportions are bad. Again this page would have been better if the trashcan from the previous page was shown here more in full. Because just a single panel of the trash can on the previous page wasn't necessary. Now we've got a trashcan top coming out of a panel underneath and its like why? Why couldn't you have planned out the page to show more visual information other than to show your character has really ungodly long legs. And I mean that's coming from -me-. You can be gratuitous in what you are drawing if you so desire, because fuck that if I am gonna stop you, as long as you are still showing all the key information a reader will need. Because if I saw this page and only the top of it, cutting out the bottom, I'd still be wondering what the hell is going on. Is she being dropped into a laundry basket? Is she being dropped on a grill? Is she being dropped on some sort of radioactive super fucking fantastic super-power giving barrel of goo? I can't tell what that is from the top of the page. Then that last panel is terrible too. Now for some technical aspects - One - your font sucks. Get a better font. You can look at blambot.com for a better one. Two - your word bubbles suck. Also where are the tails of the word bubbles? Again it just looks like you used MSpaint for them. Three - Your story is terrible. It makes very little sense and I have no real clue what you were actually trying to do here beyond having someone naked and licking other people. I have a feeling this is more of a fetish comic than anything else. Which I mean if thats what you want to do then fine, whatever, just at least make it make better sense than this. Four - the gutters on the pages are huge. There is a TON of wasted space on the pages that you could have used for drawing. Five - your compositions are in need of a lot of work. I am not just talking page layouts either, I mean the actual compositions of your drawings. Unfortunately I can't help you with that I'd be here forever - you'd have to go look it up. Six - Resize your pages because these are massive and annoying to view...and my monitor is huge. There. This was a total waste of my time to write but here you go anyway :v.
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Charlie
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12 years ago
Anyway. Here i am for the third time trying to post this up. Turns out that when writing a critique on a comic like this you end up going way over the allowed limit of text to post. But here is my incredible insight into why exactly I thought Oxefer's comic was equal to that of the other word for the fecal matter that comes out of your backside. Page 1. First panel - what the hell is up with her body? It doesn't look right at all man. She looks so flat and like she has no real form at all. But I won't spend any more time on this first panel... Because the second panel is absolutely terrifying. What the hell is up with her body? Her body looks incredibly strange and deformed. Which would make sense I guess if she actually was deformed. Like how is her breast doing that? Why is her ribcage pretty much seemingly nonexistent. what the hell is going on with her neck? There is a lot of things wrong with this entire panel I don't even know where to start in terms of giving constructive feedback other than LOOK AT REFERENCE. Panel 3 is completely devoid of any real sense of perspective and again her body is completely out of wack. The increasingly thick linewidths going into the background are distracting as they are much larger and bolder and in your face than any of the foreground characters are. This is excluding the fact that the entire drawing of this panel itself is exceptionally bad. Where is the sense of depth. Why is all of this happening in what seems to be some indoor boxed in land? Like is Void Parn (I assume its supposed to say park?) seemingly...inside? None of this so far has made one lick of sense and the drawings do nothing but to make things more confusing. Page 2. Oh boy. First of all that chipmunk squirrel whatever it is looks terrible all throughout this page. But lets just start with panel 1 in which you have some really thick clean lines and then these little lines...that almost look like you did them in MS paint. Why is that leaf by their feet (and up near the tail) also transparent and see through? I still do not understand what is going on. Not to mention you never give any indication as to where in the story Cue and this creature even are in the first place. There was never any hint on page 1 (unless somewhere in that mess of lines there WAS something). Panel 2 is fairly straightforward and honestly probably the best drawing you have in here which isn't saying much. I can tell its a view through the scope so uhh...good job I guess I understood that part pretty clearly. Panel 3 is more or less the same situation I guess. I can tell she is looking through it but it is still an incredibly awkward panel to look at. What is her arm actually doing. Also I can make out the scope of the gun but the rest is like....what is going on. The word bubble cutting through the way it does also is not helping matters at all. Panel 4 I died laughing because it looks like what I assume is the sniper rifle is poking right through the chipmunk's neck and its screaming because of that. All of a sudden Cue's body becomes really fucked up proportion wise as her legs get super scrunched to the point where she doesn't actually have knees and basically from the knee down is just coming straight out of her waist. At least I think thats what I am seeing. Basically she becomes even shorter I guess by extension of her legs being cut in half completely and restitched further up. Which honestly if I interpret it like that this all of a sudden becomes kind of funny - but moving on.
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Charlie
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12 years ago
Because I've seen him work on comics before. I have seen this exact same quality of comic from him over and over and over and over again elsewhere. The incomprehensible story and the incredibly unfinished art every single time. By now I just don't think there is any excuse for it to keep happening. Chill out bro :)
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Video320
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12 years ago
Majikura - That was sweet. Ending really caught me off guard. Elenied - I giggled at the end, but I feel like heart wasn't this one. Inspiration is hard to find. You'll get it for next time. Charlie- Fuck off, How is that constructive? How does your comment accomplish anything other then tearing Elenied's confidence to shreds? Why be so rude? If you had problems with their comic then explain yourself and give advise. I tell everyone I know about this site. I tell them about the brotherhood type feeling I get from here. A safe place to post and improve as an artist. What you just did there was embarrassing. How are you different from any other troll on the internet?
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12 years ago
Kura, this was brilliant. it was very heartfelt and beautifully drawn. I do like to see a little Cue backstory! even if its so sad! Elenied, don't be discouraged. We all gotta start somewhere. My first battle wasn't too brilliant either, and kudos on at least not dropping out. your lines are little shaky and your storytelling could use work but you seem to know where you went wrong so hopefully next time you will turn in something much better. I'm looking forward to it!
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12 years ago
Kura: I really enjoyed this comic! I always wanted to know what exactly happened when she found Cupid. The "abrupt" ending was a nice touch too and like BenT mentioned I thought it was great how the there's nothing entirely sexual about the nudity and it just adds to that they're fairies and its nature and all that stuff. Great work! Elenied: Fair to say I'm a little disappointed. Your anatomy needs work but I do like how you've drawn Cue's face. Don't take on a comic battle if you have no time or inspiration to commit to it! Better luck next time, don't let us down!
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12 years ago
Kura: Last page made me very happy. Hooray for common story bits! :D
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12 years ago
Charlie: Elenied: Charlie: Kura - your last page had me laughing pretty hard. Oxe - this comic was shit. i know... Cool, just making sure we were on the same page. Because I wasn't really sure :v yeah im very ashamed of this especially since feys and women are my forte.
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12 years ago
Elenied: Charlie: Kura - your last page had me laughing pretty hard. Oxe - this comic was shit. i know... Cool, just making sure we were on the same page. Because I wasn't really sure :v
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The Bent One
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12 years ago
Kura - I liked how the nudity doesn't take center stage, rather it's just there as part of the comic. I loved how you wove both characters into an origin story for your character. It was a bit straight forward, but it was well paced and I was left wanting more after the last page. I wish this was colored. Elenied - Take more time before you challenge someone next time to come up with a story and script. it really helps with your drawing time. I feel like if you take a lot more time with your art that you can do much better. As for the story, it was very flat and boring. Why was Cue hired to malipulate Lovehaven? Who hired her? How did they know when and where she would arrive (seemingly from time travel)? Why did Lovehaven decide not to eat Cue? There are so many things you need to consider when writing a comic to make it interesting and relatable to the readers. Basicly, I feel like you can do a lot better. Please take your time on your next battle and show us what you can do!
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12 years ago
Kura: I love that we get to see a different side of Cue! Your variety with the different fairyfolk, the work you put into the forest world that Cue lived in, and the storytelling in general was really good. Great show!
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Elenied
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12 years ago
Charlie: Kura - your last page had me laughing pretty hard. Oxe - this comic was shit. i know...
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12 years ago
Kura - your last page had me laughing pretty hard. Oxe - this comic was shit.
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Elenied
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12 years ago
my apologies for the bad comic and lack of pages, i do realize it isn't a good way to start battling but i really could not feel well enough to draw much lately.
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12 years ago
Fairies, Fey and Magic oh my
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12 years ago
Oh man. OH MAN. LUNCH IS SERVED.
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12 years ago
welcome to void
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