I realize that stacker's a collab but however you guys are figuring out the art/word ratio, the text has to be laid out better & possibly spread out more over more panels. Whether it's in the script or not, it feels like it's crowding the art in case like the first & last pages. Either balance it out with more art or cut down on it.
Magistelle, I think you could benefit by thinking things out better. Simple profile angles, then angles like the arm coming out of the side of the guy's face & the simple bgs where glass is opaque & just runs flush with a wall before someone's thrown through it, leaving no glass shards on the ground in a faux fish eye angle that focuses on the ground. I think you need to slow down & think about what's happening a little better.
Also, with this sort of set up, the only thing I could think of was one of the biggest battles on the site, the James side of James v. Agent Black. While you're just starting here & might not've seen that one, I couldn't help but draw correlations to the set up in that & that basically ruined that set up for everyone else on the site.
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EvilEye and Rofl- You know I love your concise and clever script- you have a superb narrative going here, and inner monologue that perfectly compliments Rofls panels and storytelling. I love your heavy blacks and epic sense of scale for all your comics but these few pages and the minor plot you pack in could do with more development- which I hope to see in the future.
Magistelle- You've got a great sense of lighting and color but I can't help but feel its masking some flawed anatomy and over simplified backgrounds. Its definitely a better sense of place than last round but that street is vacant and the bar has no character. You art is beautiful tho and you're positioning Mammon is a place to become a great villainous character.
It will be interesting to see these two side by side in Murphy's Law given their shared history now. But badasses deserve good company.
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Yeah I mentioned how it wasn't finished earlier because I hadn't actually seen what Rofl did finish, so I had no idea what was done or what it'd all look like. Seems like he made a conscious exercise of triage so that the story would still be intact. I'm pretty impressed by that on his part. What's lost was basically just a bit of character development, though I do think it ties the core together tighter.
Rofl, I keep trying to compliment you on AIM but you keep apologizing like you're catatonic so I'll just do it here hahaha. I LOVE this art. G-CEP looks just as grand and impregnable and ominous as I imagined, and the beginning is just as moody and claustophobic and hopeless as I wanted to get across. Starker looks just as deranged as I imagined. To the point I'm actually creeped the fuck out by him in a few places, and I'm the guy that has to spend an uncomfortable amount of time in his head and created it in the first place. I really can't convey how impressed I am with the spectrum you put up for him; every facial expression you draw for him makes me feel like you saw right into his soul. That panel where he talks about the trouble he gets into with the drink is going to stick with me for a long time.
I love your lettering as well. I always knew that in theory handwritten lettering can have more personality, but I couldn't think of a lot of examples. Starker's deranged cackle when he's about to face judgment is a perfect one, though. This is also another example of you doing such a good job of conveying what I had in mind, to an extent I wouldn't have thought possible, and also really making the idea leap off the page with your considerable talents. All I had written was "It becomes clear that this is a man who should not laugh". The chill I got reading that horrible laugh is what I wanted to inspire, but I had no idea just how well you'd be able to pull it off.
Fuckin' kudos man. On everything. (Now finish it... whenever you get a chance)
Magi: This was fun. I noticed you took a lot of the advice to heart from round one and that always pleases me to see in artists. Your lighting is good per usual and I really liked the steam effects from the energy vents on Starker's suits. Artwise there's a couple of snafus that even I noticed, so that usually means it's something to keep an eye on haha. The one I can remember right now is when Starker first sits down next to Mammon -- Starker's right arm, in the background, is growing out of his ear. Ol' Shane also looks like he joined Stanley in a few food binges in the first page/cover page there haha. Otherwise I can dig it. I quite liked the little nuance there of how Starker seems to regain composure almost immediately after the tackle, as he's already on his feet ready for more before Mammon gets ten feet away. I assume that was deliberate.
Storywise, you did the obvious route. Nothin' wrong widdat. Mammon is a member of a hunted minority group that is powerful, which is being hunted by very powerful (and rich) people. Starker would be the first guy they'd hire, I assume. I like that Starker approaches him in a bar, as it gives it that feel like poor Mammon is just trying to disappear and live his life. I also enjoy that you didn't go for the obvious DBZ fight that they could easily've had, with Mammon instead being disturbed to shit by hearing his real name and then generally spending the entire "fight" in a panic. I will say, though, that the ending is just too easy. Starker is about as good as it gets at what he does -- why would he not confirm his kill? Haha, it just struck me as funny in a way you probably didn't intend. "Well. He's probably dead I guess. I'm out niggas, PEACE"
Characterizationwise, you pretty much got 'im down (other than that little divet I just mentioned). He's professional and doesn't seem to mince words, and tries to end things quickly. What i quite liked, though, was that after Mammon attacks him and runs for it, Starker seems to go for his gun less because he can't chase him down and more because Mammon pissed him off and so he decided he'd rather kill the guy for jollies. I assume that's what you were goin' for, and that is all him. Also I didn't have a place to mention this but did you really think I'd let you steal a line of dialogue from RoboCop without callin' you out? ;D
Anyway, you were fun to fight and fun to read. I'm glad we got to meet in the tourney, because I think Mammon and Starker may have a future as nemeses.
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I really enjoyed this battle.
I think Evil Eye has helped to prove how viable the writer role is because I'm really interested in the story he's crafting and would really like to see where this goes. Despite the fact that Rofl did not finish, these four pages can stand alone as a short piece.
You know me Rofl, as a fan of blacks I think you did an excellent job wherever you wielded them but that being said, it could have used more, or even another typing of shading on scenes where Starker is sitting at the bar or the closeup of mammon's face. Otherwise, your style continues evolving and that's pretty cool.
Magistelle, I really enjoyed the action in your piece and the conflict felt very real and really scratched that action itch. You show great promise and like most artists here, brushing up on your anatomy will come a long way. You're fine with Mammon's face most of the time, but you seem to have difficulty keeping that consistency when it's not a cartoonish face like his. I can't offer any coloring tips but I enjoy the bright colors. The shadows not so much, it feels too dark for the screens I've seen it on? There's something about that I'm not quite satisfied with, but the shapes of your shadows are right on. All I can say is continue to experiment and push yourself because you're already a strong contender.
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Glad the glitch is fixed! x) It was real fun drawing Starker, and being up against Rofl and EE was a buncha fun anyway (and if not motivating 'cause I felt I had to try and step up my game). Lookin' forward to that BB in the future!
Also, I find it very funny that we both included bars in our rounds in some way. xD
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I did upload the comic. Just so everyone knows, Evil Eye DID finish his writing. I considered copy pasting what he wrote and uploading that, but I don't have time for the tournament so this comic will be finished as a BB. We'll still continue to do stuff, but in the battle of this battle, girlfriend and vacation beat out Void.
Starker isn't done and me and Evil Eye will carry this arc all the way through.
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Alright, well, Rofl wasn`t able to finish, though he almost did and I`m sure he gave it a Herculean effort. Sucks, but things be what they be. I think this is us opting out of the tournament regardless of what happens with the voting, so I`ll wish you luck in advance, Magistelle. You`ll get a Beyond Battle at some point or other that finishes off the story. I had fun writing Mammon and hope he was done justice. Hope you had fun on your half of the battle as well.
I think Rofl uploaded the almost-finished comic but I`m not sure. Guess we`ll find out in about 90 minutes haha.
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