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Mooo vs Stranger
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Uploaded February 18, 2009
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Angie
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17 years ago
Dragon-dan-Your stuff keeps getting better and better, it looks like you're starting to get a lot of confidence in your lines which is always a good thing. You're still having some problems with your backgrounds being kind of flat and lifeless, remember that cities aren't just boxes and windows! The story was a nice change of pace from you, I didn't expect it to end up that way at all.
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ImaGEEnat!On
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17 years ago
Coow battle! Damn, mooo! I was looking forward to yours! Next time! :D
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Boris
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17 years ago
i liked this. My favorite part was the stand off. One looking at the other. THEN full first person perspective from MOO and seeing stranger unleash it's metallic tentacle straight at the readers...best part is, it was well drawn. Which made the following page, packed with that powerful panel, pretty (er) powerful. panel sequence was nicely paced and easily assessed. Clarity is power. Page 1: had a wordy welcome (i hate to admit that i skipped it, deciding to come back to it later, and went to page 2) Then i came back to it, and liked it. Page 2: awkward dialog. Strangers dialog was odd; the briefing felt perfunctory. Then Moo says: "the hell? ...yes?" which came off as conflicting to one another in the sense that he went from unhinged vocalized bemusing to polite inquiry. It was two forces, that needed some sensible transition. Maybe if: "the hell" was whispered and "..yes?" was audible. Then there was Moo's: "Do you want to fight me? Why? What?" The fight was obvious ; A superfluous reiteration retards pacing. Most importantly, the unnatural sense it was delivered. It appeared like it had dawned from Moo to fight, right after Stranger had requested it. It helps to make the dialog concise and credible. So as to draw out some sense of character from those speaking and move the plot along. “'test of skills'? so...you wanna fight? Is that it? Why?” Is how i'd put it. The character uses rhetorics, or just a habit of summarizing others dialogs into simpler terms to bring himself into some understanding with what's being said. “why? What?” felt like misplaced, prolonged, perplexity. Even if you had gone in that direction, “what? Why?” in that order seems more natural. Not "why? what?" plus attention to the last question asked feels like stranger is being asked to reexplain himself... Page 3: I liked the dialog here. The pacing was full on. So commences the fight and all was air tight... the humor, and the quaint ending. lucidity and pacing kept me hooked, so you did something very right.
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JoshuaEliGilley
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17 years ago
Pretty good dragon, your art is moving along, just keep on anatomy. I think another key for you to work on art-wise is size relationships between objects, in your roughs, try to designate an object that "locks in the scale" a.k.a. "basic unit" and then relate everything else to it size-wise. let me know if that didn't make any sense, cuz it was funny to type. i have to agree with jv that I think it's odd that the stranger is more buddy buddy here. I see him more characterized by his inability to relate to others on planet earth/void city. also I think he would of put up more of a fight, even after moo ties him up in his robe, I could see something like the tentacles just fly out of the hood and keep attacking. But I think it was your most accomplished fight scene yet, so just keep at man!
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dragon-dan
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17 years ago
Nate: apology accepted, I do look forward to whatever you've got. Also, Mooo wins anyway :P Backgrounds- I'm proud that up till this battle, 90% of my panels had backgrounds. Knowing that Mooo would command more attnetion to anatomy than a non-human or someone with heavier clothing, and because I pooched the first 2 weeks of draw time, I swore off as many background shots as I thought I could. William D. you're thoughts on the camera angles, I completely agree. I always miss my battle's greatest faults until after they're up, and that boxing game feel is it for sure. jv7x- I'm pretty pumped just to hear someone is as interested in my character as you are. Some of my earliest crits where about the Stranger being to harsh & ending a fight too quickly. Personally I had been thinking about these like real-life duels (ie. pistols at dawn, kendo, etc), which are over pretty fast (and I have fewer pages to draw) so more than anything I think exaggeration is the biggest lesson I need to learn. pages 4 & 9 are my favorite, and I hope that is my 'bar' from now on. Won't know until the next battle! Also re: snail epiphany- page 6 & 11 show that the stranger's limbs can feel pain, and that a powerful enough hit to it's body causes those limbs to automatically retract.
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jv7x
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17 years ago
Dragon-Dan: I really like how you are developing The Stranger. It's cool that he's drawing from his past experiences but I've been a little disappointed to see him soften up a bit in recent battles. I liked it better when he was cold and emotionless, kinda like a terminator. I think your art is progressing nicely. I liked the second panel on page one, very moody and sinister. Keep it up. As for the battle itself, it was enjoyable but I would have prefered to see the Stranger win this one. I wasn't really sure I got why he was beaten. How is he like a snail? At any rate, I thought this was a very good match and I look forward to more. JV
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Phill
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17 years ago
You do realize that I have to strangle you now, regardless of previous obligations in your life, right Nate? *reaches for your neck slowly* er... anywho, take your time, if possible try to do a bit more with your comic soon to start up new storylines and whatnot. Dragon: Not bad, I liked how the fight went in this comic, but you gotta work a bit more on anatomy. Figures here are looking extremely stiff here. Also consider practicing details for backgrounds more, streets aren't usually that empty, and I'm not referring to people either. But not bad overall, but I think you could stand to push yourself more in the future.
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William_Duel
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17 years ago
Oh sorry I should have read Nate's comment a little better. I will be looking forward to that portion of the fight.
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William_Duel
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17 years ago
It's a pity when one defaults but alas such is life. Dragon-Dan I enjoyed your comic, there is much effort and work present here. Some panels are dynamic and well drawn but some of the other fall a little flat in my opinion. Too many straight on, first person angles like in a boxing game. I think you needed a few more exciting angles during the action sequences. Although the fight is clear cut and interesting. I enjoyed the end and what really brought a smile to my face was the Stranger's content moment when mooo accepted the fight (the arm wavy thing). Page four was probably my favorite page. Awesome job.
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Anonymooo
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17 years ago
I apologize for not delivering on-time, but I'll have my finished comic up in a few days. My hands have been pretty full as of late. Good job as usual, Dragon-Dan, and I hope you'll like the finished work I upload.
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jv7x
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17 years ago
Dragon-Dan: I've really enjoyed what you've been doing with the Stranger so far. I'm really excited to see a new match from you. Let's see a good battle, you two! JV
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Drifter Ronin
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17 years ago
Go get em fellas!!!
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JoshuaEliGilley
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17 years ago
YEAH, COOL MATCH!!
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bicentennial man
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17 years ago
lets see somethin good
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knightcrow
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17 years ago
good luck gusy!
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Aluísio C. Santos
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17 years ago
wao, another surprise!
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