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Moving Forward
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Uploaded January 07, 2009
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Rone Rivendale's avatar
Rone Rivendale
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17 years ago
angieness: I'll try to keep working on that since stiffness is a problem I've always had I often have problems with stiffness when I read your comics. =)
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sawbones
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17 years ago
Your comics are so easy to follow. That in itself is a monumental accomplishment. I liked it. I enjoyed reading it.
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Aluísio C. Santos
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17 years ago
Your battles always make me look at the art and try to figure what did you do there, and how to take better advantage of the lineart, since you do it very well, and everytime better! I can't say there are problems in the art, but I'll instead point the only panel that really bugged me, which is page 6, panel with the full bodied girl, the reasons being that while her waist up be very nicely done, her legs look a bit weird, how can I say, at first look very longg thighs, and the connection in the knee feels weird. I think this might be an anatomy problem since (hot) angela in suit in last page seem to have the same problem even if we cant see the whole body. The other problem in this page 6 panel, is the box behind the girl, as it's really is some completely squareish block, and really, really sharp edge looking! Maybe it is supposed to look like that, but this super ruler-ish object kind of disagrees with your general background and character style. Maybe it could rely less on the ruler lines, and have more surface shaping! Sometimes just relying on the colors/texturing won't solve the problem, and this is a clear case. All the rest of the stuff is amazing, I really liked the shining speech bubble thing, and your font selection is very very good. I shall steal that bubble! haha I like where the story is leading to, and for once, I can finally notice that Angela has a purpose to follow, while she was always a bit "lost", I guess. Dunno if it makes sense. Good work, keep me on this channel!
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Angie
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17 years ago
Glad you liked the facial expressions on this, I was really happy with how a lot of them came out. I'll try and tone down the textures next time I color in this style since I can see what you mean. And I won't stop unless I like lose both my arms or fall off a building somehow or something since I fully intend on finishing the story. I think it's at the halfway point.
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aribooboo
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17 years ago
great read! I was entertained the whole way through, though i do i have to agree with the wordiness. But that's nothing to really worry about 'cause I'm sure you'll be able to fix that quick. The colors were amazing, it felt really fresh. Your figures are still looking a little stiff, but I can see some improvement C= Though I will always love your facial expressions, 'specially when Angie smiles. The texture your using works really well most of the time, but sometimes it feels like it's drowning the art, even with the colors ( that might just be me though ). Though most of the time I love how you use it. The story pulls you in, doesn't matter how short it was. The ending was a suprise; We're seeing another side of her! She's got a plan up her sleeve and I'm sure we're all itching to see how she pulls it off. I know I am! Don't you stop missy, until you finish this story ( please? )~!
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Angie
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17 years ago
Thanks for the crits guys! Pong-Yeah, that does happen sometimes haha occasionally I'll just get sick of a panel and move on which I shouldn't do. I do actually try to rework panels and show people the ones I'm having problems with and rework it from there but I guess people don't always catch stuff at the pencilling stage. Perspective has always been a problem for me and I'm trying to work on it but I think I always have trouble figuring out how it works. I actually did take a whole class on perspective and did really bad in it because there were still a lot of things I didn't get haha which really comes as no surprise. So I'll keep practicing with it and hopefully get better with it. I'll keep the wordiness thing in mind, I guess I've gotten so used to reading super wordy comics so that kind of thing rubbed off on me. schupfnudel, Babylon55-Thanks guys, I'm glad you enjoyed it! CrimsonViper38-Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the story. I'm relieved to see people enjoyed it since I'm not used to doing shorter comics so I'm glad it was entertaining. I'll try to be better with the word bubbles in the future
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CrimsonViper38
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17 years ago
Angie's story gets better all the time. You drop hints and plan your battles out for the long term. I'm impressed. But I'm more impressed that you've improved each Battle. I love the lighting, and some of these backgrounds are your best so far. The dark ambers and warm grays gave the first few pages a strong mood. Figures are figures, there's always room for improvement. I don't have a problem with them this battle since i've seen you draw dynamic poses in other battles. Word bubbles are sorta distracting sometimes, ill admit. They kinda break up the mood and get in the way of the art. But it's clear you know what you're doing. Some unnecessary narration won't distract me if its short and concise. Which it was :) All the nitpicking in the world wont change my opinion. High, high marks for this one :D
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Babylon55
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17 years ago
I really like the drama of the slow start. Love your art - you do a great job of creating a mood and believable environment. I'm a fan.
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schupfnudel
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17 years ago
Ohh good stuff! Leaves me hungering for more~ One can see that you put tons of effort into this. I think the little problems with the art I would've mentioned have already been addressed ... So I'm gonna shut up now. Btw I also like the mask. It rawks.
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King_Pong
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17 years ago
You know I had to really think this one over in my mind. I don't really know what is going on here, because sometimes your work looks perfect and right on, and other times your art comes off as stiff, or wonky. I'm not sure if you simply lose interest in a panel or dismiss it as unimportant before moving on, or if you simply have trouble drawing certain things so just skip over rethinking and redrawing them until they are correct. In any event the art had some problems - no MAJOR flaws - just lots and lots of little things here and there that seemed disjointed. I would recommend you go and study different REAL perspectives, such as drawing a scene from an upstairs window, etc. to come to a better understanding of how objects and space interact; because your perspective and foreshortening are weak points in this comic so far as the art goes. Storywise - I agree with kevin, and I know I've already stated this before elsewhere, but you have speech and text where there really doesn't need to be any. The opening explanation is fine - but the last panel of the second page, and the first two panels of the third page would have been much stronger without words taking the focus away from the visuals. There are times when words ARE DISTRACTING - instead of informative and detract from storytelling! You do a pretty good job getting the point across with images a lot of the time angie - so don't feel like you have to ALWAYS have words to back up the visuals.
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YaRoof
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17 years ago
for all those who are gangster angie fans like me.. you might have noticed this mask appeared atleast once before.. where you ask? only just the Cover of the epic battle that was Angie vs. FooRay !!! O_O
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Angie
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17 years ago
Kotori-thanks! I'll make sure to hit you up with my next battle script so you can help me find any grammatical errors that are in there. Kuro-Thanks for the crit dude! Yeah, perspective is always my nemesis, I think like half the time I do make the mistake of not drawing the backgrounds first like you said. I'll try to keep working on that since perspective has always been a harsh mistress to me. Squidman-Thanks dude! You can thank Corny for the mask design, when I told her Angie was getting a mask she designed like 5 different masks and sent them to me and I wish I'd included the drawing she did in the author's notes since it totally slipped my mind
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squid
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17 years ago
Stunning artwork, angie. I loved the transition from warm, golden hospital room to the cool, blue outdoors. And Angie's cat mask wins. x3
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Kuro
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17 years ago
i agree with toast on the recap-ibility. and some of the best colors i've seen in a void comic. the whole thing started out pretty cinematic as well. the only crit i have is that in a few of the panels the perspectives a little tweaked or strange. a couple of spots had very straight, sometimes profile angles that come off as being a bit flat if the color didn't add so much depth. for instance, the 7th page, when we see her sitting in bed from the side. the bed is also straight on when really, the pov kind of looks down at it at more of an angle. or then that last panel on that page. given the way the beds sitting, the angle kind of feels like it's towering way above the bed. in some shots, characters seem to be at a slightly different angle than the rest of the background, being a little out of sync. for example, there's a shot on the 5th page where we see angie looking at julia by the window. in other similar panels on the previous pages, everything looks pretty ok as we see it straight on. but then we see it from a slightly lower angle, & the window skews a lot more than it feels like it should. i don't know if you fall into the same trap i do at times were you draw a character & then draw a background out of necessity without giving much thought to the character having to occupy that background & the connection between the two. just something to be mindful of. otherwise i'm intrigued & can't wait for the next part of the angie saga. oh. and so far you're winning the kitty bee bee's haha
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Kotori Ky
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17 years ago
I love how you keep challenging yourself with your coloring and lines, Angie. Your anatomy is improving, as I've said over AIM, and the faces as well. I esp liked the two fuller shots of Angie and of Julia. They are a lot more relaxed and curved/flowing than previous works, which shows work and improvement. Great things, imho. The coloring keeps getting better, but I agree that the glow might have been a tad over-done in a few places. All in all, I loved it. Kevin is right about the grammar and puncuation. I'll poke you on AIM about it later, but they're not as bad as some. Mostly just missed puncuation or minor issues. Just having a friend proof scripts can often clear these things up, since the writer often doesn't even notice their own errors. You just keep racking up the respect points, dear. Your continual push for improvement, both in writing and in art, is such an impressive thing and exactly what this site is all about. I look forward to the continuing story!
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Angie's avatar
Angie
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17 years ago
Thanks for the crit dude! Yeah, I never think to put periods and obviously I should next time I have a battle. I wish I'd put another page in the beginning so I could have made Angie waking up a little more believable since that was something I'd totally overlooked. And I'll keep the thought bubble thing in mind, I'll try to find a way to make it more noticeable without doing the generic cartoony thought bubble thing. I'm glad the story worked okay otherwise since I'm not used to working with shorter comics.
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Kevin Birtcher
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17 years ago
I haven't faithfully followed Angela's story, but I think this comic had enough recap in it than someone (like me) can jump in and understand what's going on. That's a good thing, and it's hard to manage. Some writers put in too much recap and some don't put in enough. I think you did pretty well. That said, there were some problems. LOTS of dropped periods. What are you doing? Just because the speech bubble is ending, a sentence should still have a period. There were a few other missteps grammatically, but I'm should Kotori could point those out better than I. I'm going to pull out page 4 as an example - One thing I wanted to point out was while I read this I wished the thought balloons were more distinct from the speech bubbles. At first, I thought the third panel on 4 was her talking to herself and I had a comment about that, but on the second read I noticed it was a thought instead. Still, I think the top half of that page could go without words and still carry the story well. Something else is her speech in trying to wake up Julia. Angela just woke up from weeks of rest, she's drugged, tired, and should be pretty out of it. I think she seems very alert, coherent and talkative for someone in that state. Sometimes less is more. The art work looks great, nice attention to detail, I'm very impressed. The story ends on a nice cliffhanger that could easily lead into your next story (which I hope it does), and it's a good wrap-up. Good stuff all-around... I'd just watch your dialogue/thoughts in the future.
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yeseG92
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17 years ago
Nice coloring, Angie~! I especially like the last 2 panels. Only problem was that some of your characters were a little stiff here and there. You had the perfect cliffhanger ending. It made me want to see what Angela's gonna do next~! Can't wait for your next battle!
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Dimension
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17 years ago
Nice work ang, especially on the coloring :D but the blur/glow effect did bother me sometimes. Like on the last panel of page three, on Angie's shirt and blanket, the goldenish glow overlapping the ink work is a bit too much in my opinion. I feel that it would have looked better if the glow/blur layer was under the inks.It only bugs me in a few panels here and there though, it looked fine in other panels. Pretty interesting story, I liked it and it makes me wonder how Angie is going to do what she plans to do. good work as usual! :3
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Angie
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17 years ago
Thanks dude! Yeah, anatomy is something I'm always working on, Fowlie gave me some pointers to make the full body shots a little less stiff (they were originally way worst) but there are still some issues in there. I'll try to keep working on that since stiffness is a problem I've always had, especially in full body shots.
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amazingdavid
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17 years ago
I dig this Angie, I think everyone knows that youre an awesome colorists, your dialogue is realistic yet still fits into a comic without becoming too wordy (I got a huge prob with that so..um..congrats...) scenery and overall BGs are great...the only thing I have a problem with is your characters...aside from facial expressions they feel a bit stiff to me, and you seem to end up with some crazy anatomical issues the more of the body you have to draw...from the neck up you're great...add a waist and the issues emerge show a whole body and they are pretty blatant (eg Pn3 Pg 6 and Pn4 Pg9) I guess you could chalk it up to style...but I think if you work on that you will have perfect comics.... I very much enjoyed reading this
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Darius Corry
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17 years ago
I esp like Angie's attempt to wake the girl up. good stuff as always.
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Angie
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17 years ago
Thanks guys! I spent a pretty insane amount of time on each page so I'm happy that you guys enjoyed it
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luniara
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17 years ago
And so, a happy focal point is planted! Your pacing was great for not being used to short battles. It did not feel rushed or anything.
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Jetaime
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17 years ago
introduction of the love interest? i like the lighting in the first part. it's like it was shot during the golden hour. if you put less detail in the shadows, i think it'll make things appear more three-dimensional. great work!
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Void City Phantom
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17 years ago
I think you did pretty awesome here! And no worries, it's not very sad as you say, haha. I can really see Angela's planning something, but yeah, we'll never know what she'll do next. And the art... WOW... just, WOW... I can really tell you worked hard here, and you should be proud. Awesome job again, Angie! :D
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Pepper JAQ
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17 years ago
awesome job, angie... worth the wait for sure XD ... don't have much in the way of crits at the moment, just wanted to drop a line though ^_^; (back to work with me X3 )
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Angie
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17 years ago
Hope you guys enjoy this! This was meant to be kind of a transition between the Frank battle and what will be my next battle. Since I'm not used to doing shorter comics I hope everything came out okay
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YaRoof
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17 years ago
i was super excited for this one.. and i love how it came out.. i cant wait to see what the shit julias gonna do... i think shes gonna be bad news tho.. cause you cant help but torture my favorite little "tigerbitch" ;P the coloring style on this one was nice. i like that you try one or two new things in each battle.. i hope we can rematch someday.. was teh happiest most fun experience i had on here so far.. heres to bein epic lil sis!
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Angie
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17 years ago
Well since I have like a page left to do I don't have to worry about needing an extension too much XD
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Jackster
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17 years ago
Extensions. Pfftht... Who needs extensions.
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Pepper JAQ
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17 years ago
can't wait to see what fun, dark, and/or twisted stuff you have in store for us XD
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Wei Ingnan
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17 years ago
I've been called worse
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Angie
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17 years ago
Oh no, no extensions on 1 weekers! I'll make sure not to ask myself for an extension because I'll get denied :( That Angie is a real bitch about extensions I hear
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Kevin Birtcher
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17 years ago
If you submit early, I'll have Angie post it right away..!
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Monday
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17 years ago
Angie its too late to get an extension.
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Angie
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17 years ago
I'm almost done with this BB, figured I'd help Toast test out giving BBs a time limit so that's what's going on. See you guys in a few days!
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