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Sable Caseres vs Stranger
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Uploaded January 04, 2009
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Betito
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17 years ago
thank you very much everyone for the advice! ^o^
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JoshuaEliGilley
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17 years ago
DRAGON: I can see your paneling getting better. The funniest thing for me was the dude-monster with the 2009 glasses-hilarious! I applaud you're ambitious shots (i.e. epic city shots and crowd scenes) these are hard and time-consuming, just keep pushing em. I like how you stylized the crowds in the long shots. I have to agree that I wanted to see the fight at the end. Or at least maybe a more intricate spread for the last page to leave the viewer more satisfied. Like maybe they are fighting full on in the city streets, instead of the face-off poses. Kind of a 1-panel fight if you will, just a little more bang at the end. I think you did a good job breaking from the usual stranger storyline of him collecting data and whatnot, very creative, think of other ways you can spice up your tales in the future (i.e. what does he do with the data, etc..) BETITO: You're art here is looking awesome, I can see a lot of improvement, and you're version of the stranger is the most exciting I have seen. The backgrounds were good, but maybe push the grounds/sidewalks beyond just a grid pattern, at least give indication of a curb and some things on the street/sidewalk. Story was simple, but entertaining, and I enjoy how you let the stranger kick some ass for sablecase beat him down. A more on-going story arc would be nice in the future, maybe go into his relationship with his parents or give him a long-term goal so he doesn't come across as a generic good guy. Your art and action are improving tremendously, just a little more push on the story side. Good job both a yas, I look forward to your future fights.
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dragon-dan
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17 years ago
I'm glad people are liking the humour, because I'm definitley a better joke writer than action scripter. The stuff like anatomy, etc. I know are my weak points, but knowing which parts are the funniest is helping me a lot.
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Coldstream
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17 years ago
Your drawings have gotten much better Betito. I thought the bomb in Dragon-Dans story was cool as well. Maybe it should have been more cataclysmic!!
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Kuro
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17 years ago
ha liked the idea of a bomb drop for new years. a nice comic, dragon-dan. short simple & to the point. city scapes & crowds are always motherfuckers, so kudos for taking on the theme that you did haha i disagree with previous statements saying about there not being a proper ending. it was a complete story. not every battle HAS to be a literal battle. i'd work a little bit more on the perspective of the buildings though. they seemed off kilter in spots. and a couple of shots had backgrounds that were grid work & stuff which gets the idea across of windows to a skyscraper & such, but going that route isn't necessarily always the best looking. keep plugging away. also, on an unrelated topic, i got a new character coming down the pike (eventually). stranger might make for a fun battle against said character. dragon-dan, you're on notice. betito- i'm seeing some nice progress. good to see you pushing angles & stuff too. be wary though of the room you leave things. for instance, that top row of panels of your character fighting stranger feel cramped & constrained. since most of your battles are more action oriented, try reducing the amount of content on each page in order to give the action room to breathe. and it might be a nitpick, but it bugs me: your text. it squashed & stretches from balloon to balloon. pick a size/ratio & stay with it unless you have good reason not to. and then if you have scale, either increase the font size or hold shift as you scale to keep the same ratio. sorry. it's just a peeve i have. but keep going. i'm seeing nice progress.
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arachnoboy
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17 years ago
Good comics, both of you. Dragon-chan: Using the setting to theme the comic is a neat idea, it calls to mind certain ideas we already have about new year's so you don't have to waste a lot of time on establishing mood and setting. We all know what New Year's eve is like. My only real complaint is that I feel cheated out of an event. The set-up is sweet, but just as soon as everything is about to kick-off, it's over. I mean... really? You have a beginning and work into the middle, but then it's just done. A tease or a cliffhanger is ok once in a while, but I'd caution you against setting something up and then not delivering on it. Betito: Great looking comic. There's some weird perspective stuff here and there, but for the most part this is pretty nicely done. I'm way into the bold black inks you're putting down, the action reads well and all the characters seemed well represented. Good show. I look forward to more from the both of you!
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mufrancis
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17 years ago
buena batalla betito-kun, espero que la ganes
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Betito
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17 years ago
CSIII: Thanks, I wanna battle with you sometime! n_n ledes87: Gracias beto, suerte en tu primera batalla!, estaré siguiendo las aventuras de huesitos =)
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ledes87
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17 years ago
Copadísimo betito, el stranger tirando los tentáculos obelisticos con las lineas de velocidad de la tercera página tiene toda la onda!!!
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CSIII
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17 years ago
Dragon-Dan- love the incorporation of the new years event into the comic. i thought that was pretty relevant at the time, so god job. i also want to comment on your crowd scenes in page 2. Although you only drew a few people, it looked like a full crowd. now one of the main criticisms that i want to point out is your correctness and consistencies. although i can see that you have a cartoon/syliszed drawing technique, you should keep an eye on your anatomical proportions and your envoiormental perspective, becouse even disney cartoonist are made to apply these things to there work. so thats it for my little two cents, and congrats on your battle, hope you get a good score. Betito- just want to say awsome........................................................... i am completley amazed with your improvements in your perspective and your inking style. if this were colored this could of been a highly aprectieated comic. i just have to say that i would be really excited to get a chance to battle you. Good Job ^_^!!!
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Betito
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17 years ago
Feliz año nuevo a todos! =D Dragon-dan: I too had problems with my occupations of the university for this battle.. Thanks for no default and good luck =) Soulles: Thanks, I draw this battle in black and white because I wanted work in my lines, and... usually "Duredhel" translates my comics but this time another person did this... was bad idea! >_<
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Void City Phantom
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17 years ago
Oh wow, these entries really made me smile. A lot! ^_^ dragon-dan: Aw, haha, man. The story here is kinda cute, in my opinion, haha. It's nice to see Stranger not being very aggressive once in awhile, and witnessing how New Year is. Nice one. And the start of Sable and Stranger's battle was a pretty good ending. betito: Duuuuuude, I think you improved here. Seriously. I think your inking here was very strong here, and your shadowing was really impressive. Action scenes and your version of Stranger probably blew me away. I can still see some grammatical mistakes in some pages, and I know your English is not that good, so try to ask any friend who is good in English to help you in writing dialogs. Oh yeah, and Happy New Year to you guys! ^_^
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dragon-dan
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17 years ago
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Betito, I am flipping out!!! You've drawn the Stranger so well! Those action shots are TIGHT. sjdngjkndjvabnlsdjbv thank you.
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dragon-dan
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17 years ago
I am a last minute sunnuvabitch. PS no time to draw an autobiographical prologue, but the second I accepted this challenge I freaked out because it was the busiest work season, then travelling for christmas, then work vacation time, then new years, so yeah, barf.
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Void City Phantom
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17 years ago
Uploaded it already? :o Wow Betito, I'm impressed... It's too bad we all have to wait for the deadline to read it though. xD; Good luck, dragon-dan! >3<
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Betito
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17 years ago
Uploaded! :3 This was a free week and I could work ^^
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dragon-dan
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17 years ago
Ugh, I need to stop FORGETTING I have battles scheduled. *rubs eyes*
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Duredhel
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17 years ago
Vamooo Betito!
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Betito
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17 years ago
Thanks Dai.. and thanks Dragon dan for challenge me =) Good luck! =D
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Dimension
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17 years ago
:0 good luck guys!
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