Ya, it's nothing but flash cs3 and a wacom tablet.

Two confusing, but still quite enjoyable comics. Caravaggio: Did you make your comic in vectorart?

@Saintpio: I know you ran out of time for this one so better luck on the next one, huh? XD neat ideas, but yeah Deman's personality was pretty off. Carafreakinglongname: most defiantly a step up quality wise if you ask me. the inks were lookin' very nice and so were the backgrounds. As others have said though, try to plan a shorter page length so you don't run out of time D; very nice though~

Santpio, I kinda hated this. I understand that you want to go with an avant garde style, but this just looks messy and lacks the charm of similar styles. Caravaggio, I was on board for the first couple pages then it got completely illegible. And the story went completely out the window. I like the art in the beginning but towards the end it seemed like you were just trying to be artistic and confusing. Both, I like the \"out there\" styles, but these were so \"out there\" that I didn't even feel like finishing the story. I shouldn't have to \"try\" to understand what is going on in the story.

Saintpio> This is the worst battle I saw from you. Plot wise it's okay but Deman doesn't look AT ALL like the real one, I mean the fox was a bit wierd and the personnality wasn't close of it at all. You are an artist I really love on VOID and this battle disappointed me a bit. BUT HELL YEAH. Next battle will catch it up won't it? Don't do those washy inks anymore and keep improving your kick ass style. Caravaggio> I got the story but the art was SO CONFUSING, it's so dark that sometime I can't see the difference between the characters and the background. Try to make the characters outline thicker and to make the background's shading less confusing. Otherwise it was good except the unfinished part, I think you should manage your time better or do something like making shorter comics. I really like the first pages thought so you'll get some points. Wanna see your next battles ;)

saintpio-I felt this wasn't as strong as your previous works, the art looks pretty rushed in this and the backgrounds are looking weaker here. You did have some cool ideas like the tentical dude but I do have to agree with Thomas that Deman didn't really resemble the actual character personality wise. It's fine to not get a character 100% accurate but when their personality is a total 180 from how they've been portrayed already, that can be a problem. You can still do creative and twisted stuff while keeping the character's personality in mind. Caravaggio-You had some nice things going in here but it looks like you're planning comics that are too long for you to handle within the deadline. The first pages were really nice and I loved the details and backgrounds, but then it gets really confusing when it starts looking unfinished. I really want to see you do a shorter comic where you are giving it your all without any unfinished pages.

Maximo V. Lorenzo: Holly fails, she made me look like a dork with kawaii emotes. Someone delete this shit! XD 3Xdgwolmd^_^BBQOMGBEANS. Stop logging me outta my shit upstairs and it wont happen~~ D: Anwyays here's what I wrote up (in case it gets deleted) Both storys were a little confusing but both had their strong points too. It ain't easy telling a story with no words so grats for you both for trying this challenge and compelteing it. :3 Caravagio~ you had some pretty sweet background and prespective. The spotted blacks deffaintly set the mood/atmosphere for your story, well done~ It's a shame you didn't get to totally finish it~ Saintpio, that dog in the first page (top right corner) was friggen sweet~ xD You have some crazy ideas, which is great and I love that you did the whole thing in ink wash. One thing though was that I don't think you really captured Deman's fox appearance~

Holly fails, she made me look like a dork with kawaii emotes. Someone delete this shit! XD 3Xdgwolmd^_^BBQOMGBEANS.

Shit. I posted under Maximo's name... This is Holly. D= I fail.

Both storys were a little confusing but both had their strong points too. It ain't easy telling a story with no words so grats for you both for trying this challenge and compelteing it. :3 Caravagio~ you had some pretty sweet background and prespective. The spotted blacks deffaintly set the mood/atmosphere for your story, well done~ It's a shame you didn't get to totally finish it~ Saintpio, that dog in the first page (top right corner) was friggen sweet~ xD You have some crazy ideas, which is great and I love that you did the whole thing in ink wash. One thing though was that I don't think you really captured Deman's fox appearance~

Pio, I had a hard time understanding what was going on in your story, but your style is rather gritty, and good work with those black inkblots as well! Cara: Your story, made little sense as well, but you did rather well in generating the right atmosphere. It's a shame that it's unfinished in some areas.

Heh, that was worth it just for for the first page of Deman snatching the sheep. (I suppose that could've been him after the last battle involving that weekend bender with Tanuky) So did everyone know that sheep don't have front teeth on the top row? There's those devilsh bottom looking things and then a long spaced back to the molars. If you looks at pictures of them with their gums being held open it's damn freaky. And yeah, the I told myself to lighten up on the hairs, so instead I spent too much time on rocks. Go figure. @thomas, If you read Pio's last comic you'll see a scene with the devil in his office. Cerberus wasn't in that scene but I imagined an alternate scene where he was and so the implied impression is that the Shepheard has seen Cerberus and believes Deman to be one of Satan's demon's, hence his attacking Deman with the shaving blade. Really I could have lived with missing a few frames if I had finished the hell page. That was supposed to be all kinds of Silent Hill shit (And no, I've never heard of it elsewhere). Thanks for all the comments.

Pio, I really can barely understand anything that's going on in your comic. From what I could tell, you also seemed to completely take a new turn on caravaggio's character, which really made me wonder if it was indeed the same character. It's difficult at times, but as a writer you've got to try and keep characters consistent, as it 1) makes more sense to your reader and 2) makes more sense for your stories if characters act in a (more or less) predictable manner. That's not to say that characters can't surprise you every now and then, but even those choices should make sense on some level. When a seemingly well-to-do and distinguished sort of character starts digging through the trash for pizza, then attacks a sheep in a fit of rabid hunger, it doesn't make any sense for anyone. Caravaggio, it looks like you didn't get to finish, so I marked your quality down for that a bit. Aside from those parts, I really liked the atmosphere and mood you created, especially with all those scene-revealing shots. The lack of text made me lose your story on page 5, where we're suddenly introduced to what I think is the devil. Is this supposed to be a flashback? The chase scene loses its edge with the unfinished parts, but I really like your vision of hell afterwards. You're pretty twisted, my friend, to have come up with that (or is that a documented torture somewhere?). The ending is confusing also, being a bit on the surreal side, but I think I kind of see where it was supposed to go.

Caravagio, nice comic. I really liked the mood. It really draws you in. Congrats in advance.

Yeah, sorry guys about all that. I kinda panicked in the last 3 days and just drew whatever. Next one will be better I swear!

Saintpio: Actually, I didn't enjoy your art as much this time, even though it was probably technically \"better\" art, the reason for me was because it didn't really convey the atmosphere that you have been able to show before. Not really sure why but it just didn't work for me this time. Aaaand, I had absolutely no idea what went on in that comic of yours, plus if you ask me it didn't even have Deman in it, just some crazy dog man. Cravaggio: Where finished, pretty god damn fine art you got there, especially like the rock textures. Though sometimes your characters would blend in just a bit too much with their surroundings so it got kind of hard to see everything. Damn shame you couldn't finish it in time.

Wow, Mr. C... now THAT was a COMIC. I was blown away by the detailed backgrounds and the well-thought-out rendering. The artwork really drew me in with the dark atmosphere. It's a bummer you didn't get to finish all of it, but I still like your comic better than your opponent's. It's kind of confusing - I've read it twice and I think I'm only just now starting to understand the story - but the fact that I actually want to read it more times until I get it says a lot. And I love Satan's necktie. Saintpio: did Deman just get Koufuyo'd? Is he that snarling monster-animal-thing eating out of trash cans? XD The artwork is pretty admirable compared to your other stuff - your anatomy and things still need work, but you pulled off the washes well. But darn it, I just haven't the slightest clue what is going on. There's sheep-eating and a gloomy-looking girl and then a giant monster comes out of nowhere. This comic is kind of a mess. It was no fun to try to decipher. (And you don't really lose points for this, but you cheated! I saw words in there! XD )

Ok, that's it for me, Deman's going to be taking a hiatus for a bit. I need to work on other projects and after not finishing even while getting extensions on these battles I'm not sure how into the whole timed comic thing I am. I could use the new job in the next town over as an excuse this time but it's really just been my attitude. If I do another one it'll be a beyond battle or something more tempered. Thanks for putting up with me Pio. Spoils about me comic, yes that's supposed to be a sleeping flower a-la sercret of mana / the wizard of oz. And also maybe something to remind ol' Shep that there are nice things even down in the sewers of void. I probably could have conveyed that better, it places a lot of burden on those three frames of Shep coming out of the darkness in that later page. I didn't realize it was so similar to my first battle before I was half way through, but oh well. Now go enjoy the battle royale!

HA! I made it...just Spent the last 3 nights starting this comic from scratch mostly...dont expect much...as usual ...

Well that's at least one person, I've got the worst luck being schedule right next to the big profile fights. :p

im going to read this before i read battle royale GO SHEEEEEPARD!

Caravaggio, your opponents requesting extensions doesn't count against you so you are still eligible for extensions.

Can't wait to see another battle from pio. Also Good luck to you two :)

It's cool dood. Given the experimental nature of show and not tell we probably should taken the default 4 anyway. Because it's not like I was about to ask for one myself. Nope, not at all. :p Which is a good question though; since my opponents have requested extensions on two fights now, does that count against me if I need one in my next fight? I know the judges don't like people to abuse the system too much. PS: Everyone reserve your front row tickets early! This sure to be sold out fight WILL showcase metalurgy, gardening, track and field sprinting, furry/elderly cuddling, mythical cameos and what would be about 100 dollars worth of india ink if I weren't a digital man by nature!

Thank you, I needed that one. I'm gonna get back on track and start today.

Saintpio has requested an extension, the new deadline is 8/31/08

a silent concept for these comics, this will be an interesting theme for this battle. I look forward to this c:

Yeah we're both doing it. I thought it'd be um...interesting, don't know what i'll do yet though.

hmm silent comics??? sounds interesting... good luck guys!

Looking so much forward to this

Good luck you guys! If that is indeed the challenge, why don't both of you try to do a silent comic? Doing something without words is a huge challenge and it would be fun for both of you

Good news everyone! [/farnsworth] For all you who've said I'm too wordy I am apparently proud to announce that this will be a battle sans text! Or at least, without dialogue! As laid out in saint's challenge. At least I think that's what it said. It was written on the fresh carcass of a wild Australian thylacine that was left tucked under my car's windshield wiper... So yeah, it's on.