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Angela Rudell vs Girl
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Uploaded November 11, 2007
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18 years ago
Angie: Your coloring is the fairest in the land. And I love how you consistently do solid, detailed backgrounds and your characters always have CHARACTER. I liked how the mysterious masked man copped a 'tude, especially. But of course, there's the forementioned \"off-kilter\"-ness of the anatomy and the perspective. Keep working at it, you're getting better! KevJB: One of these days, you'll actually finish a comic, and it will be sweet. Seriously, you've got the skills, and the story was really going somewhere. It's such a bummer to see this happen yet again. :<
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18 years ago
Don't have much time to critique, but I really wanted to say that I truly admire you for your solid character development and storytelling, Angie. <3 Way to go.
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18 years ago
omg? xD BOOBZ lawl thats so funny XD
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18 years ago
Okay, I always like to wait the last minute to comment on any battles for Yuki reasons, but I can't keep quiet any longer. Angie: I flipped on the day this battle was finally uploaded, and it was worth all the Free Willy flips I went through. While I thought your greatest battle was with Suit, this just went over that greatness. It was not only fun to read, but your art has improved a lot! Your coloring has always been outstanding, but I honestly loved how you painted the sky; I don't know why, but the clouds look totally nice! And they are fucking hard. ...I mean, to me, they are fucking hard. And the rest of the backgrounds, especially the street scenes where Angie and Girl encounters that masked man is just great. You've always impressed me with your skill and the lack of \"laziness\" and \"sloppiness\" in any panels. Great job! The only problem I see, though, so far is what most people has been saying already: perspectives. Though I know you'd kick my ass on it, there were some lines that weren't quite aligned, but I think that can be easily solved by the next battle. Storywise, you've always entertained me, especially this one. I think with this entry, it made me love Angie to the higher level. When Angie blushed every time at Girl, it made me want to scream \"MOEEEEE\" and go retarded-sugoi-no-otaku-sama-chan on her. Oh my god. She is fucking cute. Another thing I absolutely loved about this entry was the remaining creepiness of Suit you've portrayed. After his battle, I knew that somehow you'll show that his scar will forever remain with her, as rape is (almost) never a joke, it is also something very hard to let the readers know how a character deals with such a past. Just showing a simple panel of his face, like a split-second flash back, just gave me the chill and you've shown me more than clearly how much the past with Suit haunts her terribly. Angie, you are getting freaky good, seriously. I really, really want more of Angie. Kev: Overall, there were few jokes here and there that really made me the happiest little boy on Christmas morning. The story looked amazingly fun to read, and it got me frantically excited. Only problem was, it tore my heart apart as I learned that this was unfinished, and that is truly, truly cruel. I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT ;_; But sigh, things can happen in life, and sometimes you just can't have much time to finish a comic, which I understand. Hopefully, very hopefully, you can finish this and put up as a BB, or be able to complete a comic by your next battle.
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18 years ago
\"Angie's feelings and frustrations really go throuhg the screen. Maybe the others can't see it because they've never found themselves in such difficulties, but I have, CONSTANTLY. You were brave with the action and you were brave with emotions.\" hahah oh not to derail but 'can't see it' because 'never experienced it' is such a bad self-important assertion. Just saying.
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18 years ago
oh no, I knew what you were talking about dude so it's cool XD I was just saying it was meant to be like an action cartoon
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squid
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18 years ago
oh, I didn't mean it as a criticism that it felt like anime! If that's what you want to do, it's totally cool. I never meant to suggest that you shouldn't do that.
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18 years ago
Kev......... 3: It wasn't all bad. I really like how you draw Angie, you know? And the thing with Hugo was pretty funny. Angie! I think that you and I have the same problem. It's difficult to copy the way world spins around with action, and everything seems to happen sometimes too fast or too slow ( I have to admit that I avoided showing action in my last battle >3> and you were very brave at giving it a try!) If you want an advice, you can try not changing of \"camera\" in those moments. Like, keeping a character at one side of the panels and the other at the oposite side and changing of perspective real slowly. But I'm rambling now.... Let me tell you this is been one of the battles I've liked the most, recently. Why? Cause I can relate. Angie's feelings and frustrations really go throuhg the screen. Maybe the others can't see it because they've never found themselves in such difficulties, but I have, CONSTANTLY. You were brave with the action and you were brave with emotions. Not m any dare to put depth into their comics that way, specially when it's directed to the minority. For that, I congratulate you, you're my hero. *kiss* ( and you achieved that without letting comedy die XD; )
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18 years ago
Wow :O more crits than votes. I never thought I'd live to see it in the like.. .4 months I've been in void. *noob* In any case, pretty much everything that could be said has been said in regards to crits. But there tons of good elements there I'd like to see you repeat. The clouds in the first page were love, I also think the overall colors and the backgrounds in the fight were great in general. so definetely in the right direction. Also there's some returning elements like expression and line widths that are always amazing. And well, nothing else to say that hasn't been said before. As for Kev.. sorry mate... an incomplete's almost as bad as a default in my book :/
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18 years ago
Yaaaaay, I finally got to read this *thankful to have her net back* Angie: I as anticipating this battle all month, especially cuz of yer promotional image with Girl's boobs, but I have to say my enthusiasm after reading it is not as high as I had hoped. It was a good battle, but not the best. I was far more anthralled with your Suit battle *but then again you had a much longer time to work on it*. The one main beef I had with it was your facial anatoy with Girl. Because her hair covers most her face I feel that you were kinda obligated to show her eye somehow, even if it meant making her a cyclops. That's not to say this battle was without its charms though! I'm a fan of your bold linework, it really stands out and isn't swallowed by your coloring. I also liek the fact that you did a lot of the background details with your lines alone whereas others might cop out and use color or computer aids to do it. And, my favorite part of this battle, could have to be your way of drawing expressions. Everytime I read your comics I know exactly how a character is feeling because you're so good at drawint that. I think that's a ksill a lot of artists fail at, and it was a big redeemign quality in this comic to me. Kev: Aaaah I was looking forward to seeing your half but I was disappointed ;__; The story wa s abit choppy so it made it hard to follow...then you decided to not finish it and and...ah well, i'll just crit the final page since that one seemed the most complete to me. You've go some nice linework with the varying weights and widths and whatnots. The posing of the characters also looks natural and unforced. Also, gotta love the \"boobz\" panel X3
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18 years ago
Squid-yeah, like I said I'm pretty bad at action, pretty much Girl is killing the guy and I made a really poor choice for the angle of the shot, it really needed better pacing as well to get across that she was killing him. And yeah, I read a lot of shonen manga, it's what I enjoy so it's what I want to do storywise so it is meant to be like an action cartoon. I'm really not out to be an amazing and original writer. I'm well aware I will never be able to be a comic artist professionally so making something I enjoy is more important than trying to impress people by writing something I myself wouldn't read. So yeah, the anime nature of my battles probably won't ever change but I will continue to try to get better since I know I still need a lot of work. While I do plan on doing something more slice of life in the future, I really didn't give myself much space to put more detailed/interesting conversations, that's my own fault for trying to cram so much into one story.
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18 years ago
Can't say much more on Angie's that hasn't been said.. the battle was hard to follow sometimes; I didn't have a clear idea what was happening the in the first read-through. I still don't know what's happening on page 8, panel 6.. What's with the \"slice slice slice\" thing? Is she twirling her sickle or something? Page 7, panel 8, it took me a few second to realise the pink and black thing was her leg and the red thing her jacket. It would have been helpfull to draw a bit of her lower leg and foot, there. The odd perspective isn't helping.. but I think you know about that already.. I'm not sure what to say about this story overall. It felt kinda like an episode of some action cartoon. The fact that Angela's sandals look like Naruto's enforce that, haha. Honestly I think I would have liked it better if there had been more going on in the first 4 (really 8) pages. It's just Angela and Girl meet up, Angela and Girl go shopping, Angela and Girl talk about going to the movies. Not very interesting. It's supposed to be \"slice-of-life\" and that's cool, but is that really all two girls do when they go shopping? Talk about who owes who and whether they should go to the movies? I liked your art, though.. the lines and colors were very nice. Even with the perspective problems and whatnot, It's really pretty to look at. I know nothing about color so I can't comment much further but I do know I liked your coloring a lot, ah.. haha kevJB, you had a good idea going.. I'm with everyone else on the BOOBZ panel, heh
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18 years ago
Crits aside, I thought both were an enjoyable read. Angie: Loved the vibrant colors, the story was pretty cool and I like where its going. Can't wait to see Angela vs Scarlett :) KevJB: For the art that was finished I thought was an improvement on past work, just wish I could've seen the end of the story. All advice I could think of has been pretty much mentioned up above so rock on with your future battles guys :)
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18 years ago
Thanks for all the thorough crits guys, after not getting many crits on my previous battles it's really nice to hear! I'll be sure to keep all these crits in mind for my next battle. Hero-Yeah, I really did try to do too much at once. I think I was just too focused on trying to do a more light hearted battle that was still kinda serious and it didn't really work. Jho-Yeah, to me my art has always looked flat. I've been trying to work on that lately through linewidths and I think I just have a hard time picturing things as 3D structures so things tend to come out flat. I do agree about the action, I've always had issues with it and I'm going to keep trying until I get it right, hopefully my next attempt at action is a lot more successful. And yeah the little shudder lines were Angie being very freaked out. You'll notice when she's trembling it's because she got touched unexpectedly, this is of course because of Suit, being touched out of nowhere really freaks her out now. Kuro-yeah, it's something I need to work on, I really get carried away with details in the buildings and forget to double check where the characters are in space so I tend to lose where they're supposed to be. Psychosean-haha glad you liked it dude, actually Angela has always been bisexual. I've done pictures of it in the past but never really had the opportunity to show it in a battle.
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18 years ago
GREAT battle, angie!
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18 years ago
the fuck, just when girls fiight was getting HOT!! oh well, i just look on the web later for violent anime porn and big tits to rub one off to, but angelas's fight was awesome and i can't wait for the next fight. didn' t see her turning lesbo, that was unexpected. I lov BOOBS!
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18 years ago
angieness - i agree with what jinguj says about the fighting. i think a lot of what makes it disjointed here is the fact that the background around them isn't really consistent. it means that when one character knocks one character away or jumps to a different spot, there's nothing to really reference where they are in relation to one another, as what surrounding them changes. that in turns kinda screws with the motion of the scenes a little. or wider shots to establish where they're at help too. i like that font you use for the dialog text, know what it's called off hand? kev- finish!! lol i liked some of the detail but it's really apparent what pages you worked on first & where exactly you realized you were running out of time & had to pick up the pace. the ones where everything was working though seemed quite nice. just a few tiny perspective little things. good job you two -J
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18 years ago
oh btw I do like several of your establishing shots though, and you're definitely improving, so keep up on that, ange
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18 years ago
ange: your colors are good, but my gripe is maybe with all other people here, your anatomy is inconsistant at times, especially when you draw girl's face, for example page 6 (the last panel) and 7 (all panels that have girl in it), they feel flat and does not have volume in it (page 6 last panel is the best example of this, it looks like half of her head deflated)Your background is okay, could use some work in perspective at several pages. Also the most notable flatness of your drawings also on page 6, last panel, I am not sure if the hand is actually forced perspective or not? it looks a little weird because the hand is facing us, yet the arm is not, so it felt like it's awkwardly twisted and flat. all in all, I think you need to try to unflat your drawing a little, if it's your style, I understand but in this case it is not working as well as it should be. And try to be more consistent when it comes to body proportions. Another gripe is the masked guy, alot of times you draw him shown only his rounded mask without weight at all, and yetr in another page we see hair and head (that logically we should be able to see his 'head' not just a circle). It's far too flat. Fighting sequence wise, I think alot of it sort of drawn out, and choppy.. page 8 panel 2-3-4-5-6 for example, I have no idea how the sequence was supposed to be, so to my understanding... is this how the sequence supposed to be like?: after girl attacked angie (panel 1), she supposed to turn around (panel 2)and the ran towards the masked guy (panel 3), then attempted to attack him (panel 4), angie tried to chase girl (panel 5) and panel 6... girl attacked the guy and he disappear, but it's unclear and choppy. I think it's easy to just to ignore the whole sequence as a passing read since it doesn't really contribute to the story too much so it's not a big deal, but if you future battles relies on fighting scene, you might want to choreograph the scene a lil more. The dream sequence has no clear distinction where it ended, (albeit I understand where) so you might want to check on that. story wise I think everyone has covered it, so I dont have to comment on that :) a little nitpick is probably character's expressions, sometimes you draw this little 'shudder' motions on angie's face, in several occassion I am not sure what it supposed to be, is she scared/horny/nervous? yeah if I came off as a dick I am sorry, but take this with a grain of salt ok? :) Kvjb: I liked the page 3.. try to finish your battles, man..
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18 years ago
Angie, the artwork looks brilliant! you must have spent a lot of time colouring in those panels, as some people have pointed out the perspective is a little off but you're definitly improving! Kev, Its a shame you didn't get to finish this as the pages you worked on in full are fantastic. The story line is a little cliché but it leaves room for a lot of humour which is always good.
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18 years ago
Angie-love the artwork. Your battles are always inspiring for scrubs like me. Pacing was kinda chunky though in my opinion. I think you tried to tie in 3 stories in one battle. It can be done, don't get me wrong, but you fail this time. All I can suggest is don't rush the story next time. Oh, and Angie is straight now? Liars go to hell you know >:3 Kev-I liked all 2 pages worth of completed work, but as the rest was inc. I can't really give much crits. Battle when you have more free time or do a beyond battle at your leisure, I'd love to see a complete battle from you sometime. And Wii FTW!!
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18 years ago
haha it's totally fine dude, perspective is one of my many weaknesses. Can't get better unless I try
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18 years ago
Okay now that I've reread it, yeah there is a lot of trouble with perspective in your comics, angie, but it kind of works for me. I didn't even really notice it the first time through. It's weirding me out now, though :\\
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18 years ago
I'm not very good at critiquing or voting, but I'll try I guess. Have to start somewhere, huh? Anyway, angie, your comics win hard. I read through your other fights today and they're all well-deserved wins. As an a sequential artist of less than a fraction of your skill, I don't really know how to critique you. Kev, it's a shame you didn't finish. I liked page 3 a lot, but 1 and 2 left a lot to be desired as far as detail, backgrounds, and perspective.
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18 years ago
Angie: The battle IS thrown in, but I agree that you had to do it. The art is great, I'm not pro enough to notice perspective issues so I didn't find any faults in it at all =) Overall I really enjoyed it. The nudity thrown in at the end was nice too. ^_^ Kev: It's too bad you couldn't deliver. This fight was highly anticipated. I like what little you had though. And the \"Boobz!\" at the end was funny. I hope you two have another battle at some point.
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18 years ago
Thanks for the comment Kozi! Yeah, after my next match I'm going to try and have Angie have some normal friendly interactions so she can have more opportunities to make friends and such. I do agree with you about the fight being kind of thrown in there. I felt kind of like it *had* to be in there or people would get mad at me for having a totally not 100% serious battle so soon after the Suit match. But I do want to go in more of a direction of Angie having normal interactions soon, so I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed the parts where she was just chilling with Girl. So look for it hopefully very soon, since I really do want to work on my writing and character interaction would help with that.
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18 years ago
and c'mon- I see eleven votes here- where are the comments and feedback? Damn you vote snipers! >:I
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18 years ago
Whoa, I'm kinda creeped out that Angie said Kev wouldn't turn in anything complete in the jamzchat and lo and behold...how did you know?? >.> Angie- Some great background design despite the wonky perspective and character placement. I dig your industrial slash futuristic take on the Void universe as well as the color on top of it. I really liked the character development and even the amusing lesbian connotations between the two characters. I see what you were aiming for with the sudden appearance with the masked man pressing his proverbial magic button and sending Angie into her usual berserker mode, but ehh. The battle seemed obligatory. A needless cut into what could've otherwise been interesting story development into seeing Angie actually make friends with someone and maybe open up about this past I know more about due to the wiki instead of the actual battles. XD Overall, despite Girl's overtly friendly ways, the friendship displayed seemed rushed and forced at the end. KevJB- I always root for and appreciate fighters black and white comics since its my medium of choice, but this half kind of disappointed me.Each consecutive page goes from rushed to bad to unfinished. I've seen your work and rather enjoy it, so I'm rather surprised by the end result here. The story that WAS told in the pages provided looked amusing. Something lighthearted and funny which I dig. I'm just bummed you didn't get to go full circle with it.
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18 years ago
Thanks dude! Yeah, this battle forced me to work with the female body more which is something I'm really not very good at. Perspective I'm pretty awful at haha but I'm going to keep on trying to work on it and improve
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18 years ago
Angie, great job again, but the perspective and proportions on girl where a little weird at times x.x sorry i don't have anything constructive to add >.> aww, Kevvvv. Too bad it wasn't a complete entry, I'm sure it would have been great D: the expression Angie had in 2nd panel the last page was great.
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18 years ago
Awww don't say that Kev, I'll love anything that you turned in I'm sure <3
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18 years ago
Now I crawl into a hole and die.
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18 years ago
Uploaded and emailed to Wei just incase anything messed up!
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18 years ago
Last night I had a dream about this fight...i'll take it as a sign that this is going to be AWESOME.
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18 years ago
ONE WEEK LEEEFT >: F
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18 years ago
Phew, 8 pages left to color and my ass is done! Hope you guys aren't disappointed!
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18 years ago
girl fight! Go go go!!!
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18 years ago
12 days seems like a long ways away
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18 years ago
I don't know how this can NOT be some sexy yuri fiesta, even if it might not have single yuri-ish thing. Hurry it up, you guys<3
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18 years ago
Fuckin finally!!!!! I can't waittt. <333
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18 years ago
This is gonna go no where but be totally awesome.
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18 years ago
Aw yea! Gonna git some hawt shit on!
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18 years ago
Finally! Good luck to you both =D .... boooobies <33333
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18 years ago
NNIIIIIiiiiice
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18 years ago
interseting 8D
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18 years ago
Yay, boob combo!
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18 years ago
Fur AND Boobies? Oh hells yes!
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18 years ago
FINALLY :O yay
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18 years ago
OH SNAP
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18 years ago
ITS OWN CABRONE !
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18 years ago
you ruined everything...
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18 years ago
YESssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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18 years ago
:O BEWBS! I mean, awesome :D can't wait for this.
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