Dawn of Extinction / Oleander vs. Ethanol Jones

Dawn of Extinction / Oleander vs. Ethanol Jones

Dawn of Extinction — Oleander vs. Ethanol Jones

This comic has been rated adults only by its creator(s)

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375 points
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Crit level: No preference
I'm sorry for the graphic imagery in this comic I promise to never again put Ethanol in capris :(
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by Dr.Salt

This comic has been rated suitable for teens and up by its creator(s)

Icon for Ethanol Jones56.2%
481 points
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Crit level: Open to any comments or critiques
Artist statement on page 9.
tags: blood, dr.salt, Ethanol Jones, fubot, heaven, Hell, oleander, smitty




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snager
Artist
190 comments
# 17   Posted: Jul 15 2021, 08:33 AM
I forgot to comment on this!

Pizzaman, I loved your idea to give Oleander an employee. I think Dr. Salt was picking up vibes of 'dead end job' in Oleander's whole deal, too. Maybe Oleander was the  real consumerist existential dread all along!

As much as I like that premise and the characterization, though, I like the silly nonsense of just seeing how Oleander would react when systemically shown the error of their ways. very The Good Place. the 3d outrun backgrounds coupled with cute minimalist character designs is really neat.

the way everyone talks in Salt's side sounds like they're all being translated into the same dialect from something else. I like how this is used to poke fun at how simple Oleander is, but she winds up being the straight man to the ridiculous circumstances she's in. It might have been cool to have her act all formal and lofty as usual as everyone around her acts fun and whacky, to push that further. make her more of the butt of the joke, perhaps.

I love Smitty. and I love 'absurdly powerful shonen jump and magical girls thrown into mundane beurocrazy' as a sub genre of void. contented sigh.

new headcanon that Outrun is hell and Vaporwave is heaven.

snager
Artist
190 comments
# 16   Posted: Jul 15 2021, 08:31 AM
I forgot to comment on this!

Pizzaman, I loved your idea to give Oleander an employee. I think Dr. Salt was picking up vibes of 'dead end job' in Oleander's whole deal, too. Maybe Oleander was the  real consumerist existential dread all along!

As much as I like that premise and the characterization, though, I like the silly nonsense of just seeing how Oleander would react when systemically shown the error of their ways. very The Good Place. the 3d outrun backgrounds coupled with cute minimalist character designs is really neat.

the way everyone talks in Salt's side sounds like they're all being translated into the same dialect from something else. I like how this is used to poke fun at how simple Oleander is, but she winds up being the straight man to the ridiculous circumstances she's in. It might have been cool to have her act all formal and lofty as usual as everyone around her acts fun and whacky, to push that further. make her more of the butt of the joke, perhaps.

I love Smitty. and I love 'absurdly powerful shonen jump and magical girls thrown into mundane beurocrazy' as a sub genre of void. contented sigh.

Dr.Salt
Artist
96 comments
# 15   Posted: Jun 16 2021, 03:00 PM
Thanks again Pizza Man for the battle, and thanks everyone for your feedback.

Camel
Artist
142 comments
# 14   Posted: Jun 16 2021, 02:10 AM
Pizza: This is a fun comic, I always appreciate any comic where an opponent realizes fucking off is a far bette solution than fighting a godlike being. Good stuff!

Salt: The visual style here is superb, the 3D assets and scenes blend seamlessly with the 2D drawings, and the shots were varied and so fun to look at, I especially love the shot of the elevator descending into hell. The color work was also a really strong suit. The writing was great as well, I got a big laugh out of heaven's masochistic secretary. Fantastic stuff all around, this to me is a benchmark 3D asset comic.

! -Reecer6
Artist
342 comments
# 13   Posted: Jun 15 2021, 11:50 AM
pizza: a fun comic! admittedly i am thrown off, even in the context of being a gag comic, by how easily ethanol dispatches oleander; having the character comment on it doesn't alleviate how arbitrary it feels. still, i very appreciate the tone mismatch between the two characters here.

dr. salt: yoooo i ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS. what a charming comic with excellent writing and some beautiful little renders! you do not know how much i'd love to see you stick with this style. my only critique is that the inconsistent speech bubble colors, especially on page 4, throw me off of who's actually speaking.

Rivana
Artist
326 comments
# 12   Posted: Jun 15 2021, 08:45 AM
Wow both comics really took an unexpected path. It was such a pleasant surprise.

Pizza - the yellow and black color scheme is a nice deviation from just simply submitting a black and white inked page. It gives a colored comic vibe without actually coloring the comic. I think it works and very clever. Plus yellow is Oleander's color! I had a laugh when Ethanol tossed the apron at Oleander and hid, not wanting to put up a fight. A believable reaction really considering the circumstances lol.

Salt - WOW. The 3d assets, the story telling you did is very impressive and despite the stark contrast in style of the chars and backgrounds they work so well together. I love the humor and quirkiness of the characters included (even the NPCs have captivating personalities). I really hope to see more from you. Well done.

Fluffsamasprime
Artist
286 comments
# 11   Posted: Jun 14 2021, 11:07 AM
Fantastic writing Pizza! I greatly enjoyed your story!

Salt, I love all the detail you put into this!

Footini
Artist
312 comments
# 10   Posted: Jun 11 2021, 09:05 AM
Pizza:  Really dug the hard shadows and dark humor here.  This and your 9to5 battle is making me really become a big fan of your writing.

Salt: This was one of the most visually creative comics I've seen in a minute and the writing was just as strong. Im going back through Ethanol's archive now after reading thisml.

Dr.Salt
Artist
96 comments
# 9   Posted: Jun 10 2021, 02:04 PM
I can only hope I can reach this level of creativity someday
Quote from: Pizza Man
I don't think you have to worry about that. You took on a creative challenge writing for two characters you didn't create, and you carried it off well. I liked the dismembered body parts in plant pots, and the creepy eye-flowers. I think it was a great start for the Oleander story.

My only gripe is that the skulls in the background on page 9 made things a bit busy, I think blurring them or lightening the colour would have been easier on the eyes!
Quote from: TheCydork
Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll look into simulating a depth of field effect next time.

TheCydork
Artist
579 comments
# 8   Posted: Jun 10 2021, 03:45 AM
Battle of the food-named artists!!

Pizza - I loved the vibe here, I agree with Flytee the black and orange was a really neat choice. Great humour as always, and it was interesting that you had Ethanol interact with Oleander directly after the events of her intro! I did have to read through it twice to fully understand what was going on though, as a lot of the panels weren’t very clear.

Salt - This looked so cool!! I loved the 3D backgrounds, especially heaven, which to me felt more like a miniature set than 3D. Very cute, and I’m glad you showed us the little details at the end since those added to the charm. Your style blended with it pretty well. The coloured word bubbles were a successful experiment imo. I also found the weirdly chill attitude everyone has to death, heaven and hell really funny. A+ comic. My only gripe is that the skulls in the background on page 9 made things a bit busy, I think blurring them or lightening the colour would have been easier on the eyes!

Red
Council
659 comments
# 7   Posted: Jun 9 2021, 06:03 PM
Pizza - I thought it was a fun comic, I liked how you portrayed Ethanol and I loved the “You’re a shitty boss” line.

Salt - I already raved to you about how cool this looks, but I’ll say it again. Damn, this looks good. I love how you drew Oleander too. Overall, just a great job.

Pizza Man
Artist
41 comments
# 6   Posted: Jun 9 2021, 01:48 PM
Also is that a flower of evil reference on the final page?
Quote from: Flytee

Yep! I needed something ominous and that was the first thing that came to mind lol

Durianknuckle
Artist
22 comments
# 5   Posted: Jun 9 2021, 01:47 PM
Loved both comics! Oleander is beautiful!^^
And also, OMG 3D IN COMICS!!! WOW!!! OoO

Flytee
Artist
266 comments
# 4   Posted: Jun 9 2021, 01:26 PM
Salt- The visuals here were rad, I loved the 3d elements and how seamlessly everything blended together. It was really successful experiment.
I love how offbeat the dialogue and jokes were, this was very entertaining. :>

Pizza- The choice to make everything orange + cast such dramatic shadows gave this thing such a neat atmosphere. I loved the line "fuck this shit I wanna live" It was a pretty amusing way to end the scene.
Also is that a flower of evil reference on the final page?

Pizza Man
Artist
41 comments
# 3   Posted: Jun 9 2021, 01:02 PM
Aight I guess I'll be the first to say it that was amazing! I can only hope I can reach this level of creativity someday I don't know how you made those backgrounds as clean cut as they were but It's really something to behold! (I'm also glad we share the same stance on speech bubbles lmao) Thanks for the advice during our fight I truly learned a lot from this. It was an honor to have my butt thrashed by you XD

Pizza Man
Artist
41 comments
# 2   Posted: May 10 2021, 07:52 PM
Whee I'm the bad guy! :D

Dr.Salt
Artist
96 comments
# 1   Posted: May 10 2021, 09:53 AM
Best of luck, Pizza Man!

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