Liz And Tsu vs. Harvey

Liz And Tsu vs. Harvey

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by Sean

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William_Duel
Community Manager
943 comments
# 13   Posted: Oct 20 2017, 07:17 AM
Astro Sean:  It's great to see Harvey's story develop.  I think your a very strong storyteller.  And you're ability to draw a whole scene has really been levelling up.  There's little to complain about your backgrounds and details aside from playing with perspective.  No panels feel empty and there's a clear readability here.  I am sad though about the lack of shading, and the texture is a nice cheat to cover up for this but I'd like to see more.  But in this case the texture is better than nothing, as too much white would have given it an empty feeling.  There are a few spots that could have use more cleanup.  A few borders around characters which needed more cleaning and post production.  It's one of those things where people notice the mistakes more easily than when you do it right.  I'd shrink your font just like a hair.  It feels a bit too big to me or that could just be the centering for me.  It's a nice quiet and satisfying comic though I'd have a done a little more with your opponent's characters.

William_Duel
Community Manager
943 comments
# 12   Posted: Oct 20 2017, 07:10 AM
Nice job guys!  Two neat entries.

Wolfbaloo: It's nice to see you putting in a good deal of effort and producing fully colored comics for us to enjoy.  You've got good readability but I'd make the font a little smaller and make sure there's a little space between the words and the edges.  

There's something I really like about your coloring.  Shapes really pop and standout and have an almost 3d paper cutout feel to them I'd like to say?  But this strength is also a weakness.   There's very little shading going on which, though it makes the shapes pop out, makes them feel flat which is why I feel it looks like paper cutouts layered on one another.  And because everything pops out like this, it's a bit chaotic on the eyes.  Your white dialogue boxes help to distinguish themselves because there's very few sources of white.  So I think you'd benefit from white gutters to help separate the panels more.  Or if you want to stick to those black gutters then I'd make that much more space between the panels because right now they're a little hard to separate.  Because you have to keep in mind with comics that a page has to work as a whole unit to guide the reader's eyes and this is aided either by use of color or composition.  

There's also a lack of consistency with your characters.  Especially the faces.  I applaud your efforts at expressiveness but sometimes they come off as off model.  So I'd definitely practice that.  You seem more comfortable at drawing anthros than people so definitely practice underlying fundamentals when it comes to anatomy.  It's good to have a style but the basics will be there to hold you and make your art consistent.  

The explosion is interesting on page 6 but gets drowned a bit in the sea of effects.  I like the lighting on the city but not sure what that orange blur in the corner is meant to be.  I'd get rid of the gradient.  I'd also focus on references of mushroom cloud explosions for better ideas on how to make this more presentable.  

I'd punch up your backgrounds a bit more.  Be wary of using too many straight lines, it makes backgrounds feel less than lived in and sterile.

This is a great start and I'll be looking forward to more from you.  Keep practicing.

Reecer6
Artist
365 comments
# 11   Posted: Oct 18 2017, 10:50 AM
Wolf: I appreciate the commitment to establishing Heck's Gate as somehow even more chaotic and anything-goes than Void, but it feels weird to introduce all these plot elements that seem like major components of your characters' story by name-dropping them and then never explaining them. Are we supposed to care about these proper nouns, or are they just throwaway details for this episode only? In the same way, colors are still very disparate and distracting. Which is why the explosion and the pages afterwards work really well! Removing all the hue really adds some cohesion to the comic. I do really like what you're doing with line width though, being thickest on the absolute exterior of each character. It's very distinct and clean! Keep practicing and tuning things~

Sean: I absolutely admire how cinematic this is, being so slow-paced, with all the establishing shots of the environment. It's very high concept and impassioned. But I dunno, I just can't say it grabbed me. I guess because Liz and Tsu didn't really do anything. This comic, I believe, was just a minor self-reflection for Harvey that he didn't need much impetus to go on anyway; Wolf's pair isn't any more suited to being casually vented towards like this than a mirror. I mean, in my interpretation; there might be something more subtle going on here, but that seems like it. Also, something that's kind of bugged me about your art before and I haven't really been able to articulate is, I think, that when you're doing faces, you rarely get away from a standard 3/4 at eye level angle? It's really weird to me, because it feels like you'd be really pushing for every inch of flexibility with this style, but even in the more varied shots, that's the way it seems peoples' faces tend to go. This all sounds really critical, but I do really love all your little details and effort outside of this!

Pocketmouse
Artist
101 comments
# 10   Posted: Oct 17 2017, 12:36 AM
Wolf: Aaaahaha the sneeze pay off was great. This is really cute and you've worked hard to fully render *everything* in only three weeks which is so satisfying to see. My only comments is for you to just keep practising and keep this pace up!

Astron: YES the boy! Who did he call?! You know as always your traditional inks have my heart in their grasp. Your comics with Harvey have been so enjoyable to follow him. It would be good if in your future comics with him, he could have more of an impact on the characters around him, as well as the impact they have on him. It could be a really satisfying direction for Harvey, as right now he's a bit of a lost boy stuff happens to, lets see him make some accidental waves in others stories, too.

yarnwitch
Artist
303 comments
# 9   Posted: Oct 16 2017, 05:38 PM
@Wolf - Nice! I can't really add too much to what the others have said other than maybe suggesting not to completely cure/incapacitate a character in the first battle. If you solve all his problems, it makes it a little difficult to swallow. Overall i think your colorscheme was really nice and consistent throughout. I think we only really get cool colors on the first and last pages, everything else is really warm and intense.

@Sean - These pages are so neat! I have to agree about the flashback sequence, i didn't quite get it, but some of your textures give a really neat klasky csupo feel. I think they got a little lost in the page texture, but it still looks really good.

Camel
Artist
151 comments
# 8   Posted: Oct 16 2017, 03:43 PM
Wolf: Welcome to the battlefield, amigo. You've got a nice story here! I really enjoy the way you handled harvey, his behaviors were very natural and accurate to the Harvey we all know and love, and I appreciate the attempt at rehabilitation, poor Harvey's been through too much. In terms of critique, you've got some fundamentals to work on - there's a general cramped feeling to your panels, and some of the panel-to-panel movement and flow seems disconnected and awkward at times. I was also a little confused about the space - without an establishing shot, or one from far away, it can be hard to follow where the characters are in relation to each other and their environment. And finally, some of your word balloons don't flow properly, but that's a minor issue. Interestingly enough, after that radical explosion shot, it seems like everything improves at once - the palette is much nicer, the anatomy is improved, and it reads way better. I'm very interested to see what's next for Liz and Tsu

Sean- This comic is so peaceful! It's interesting to read something this calm when usually void city is being attacked by giant robots. You're flexing your environment muscles here and even with just linework, you breath so much life into each scene, especially those intro shots. Also, your shots are so varied and interesting that even though this comic is just a conversation, i'm following along really intently. I will say, I'm not crazy about the texture of the pages, I think it's a tad bit too intense and takes away from your linework, and those three flashback panels are a bit confusing if you don't know that they are indeed flashbacks, but other than that I really enjoyed this one.

Hellis
Artist
286 comments
# 7   Posted: Oct 15 2017, 10:19 AM
Wolfbalooo: COngrats on a full color, completed comic. I enjoyed the story more then I thought I would and the way you handled their reaction to Harveys explosive powers made me laugh. It was a nice little story. I'd say you need to study general human anatomy but that goes for many of us. Keep hammering out comics my dude, I see a lot of potential.


Astro Sean: Harvey is my jam, but I felt this comic would be confusing to me if it wasn't. The flow was nice, but the general storytelling left unnecessary questions despite being quite wordy.

Desichan
Artist
183 comments
# 6   Posted: Oct 14 2017, 09:20 AM
Wolfbaloo, congrats on getting up your first comic battle, that's really amazing of you!! First, I'd like to say I really like the way your story goes, for the most part it makes sense, and a lot even goes on throughout it, despite being so short. I feel like your coloring really shined after the explosion in your comic, in a way your palette seemed the most unified there, whereas in other parts it felt like your colors were clashing quite a bit. It also really set a mood for that part of the story. Something I recommend is trying to study human faces a bit more though, I notice in some panels, your faces look great, but in others, they're a bit harder to discern, but I must say... In your fourth page, those two dog guys on the right, looked freaking amazing! They really impressed me a lot! I really enjoyed reading your comic. ^^

Sean, I really enjoyed your comic as well, I thought the textures, and lining looked pretty nice, I can see that it probably could be improved by more line variations on the people, but I still thought it was amazing. It also worked tremendously well with the backgrounds! One thing I could say is I had a hard time keeping up with your comic, I came out not really having much of a clue what happened. I'm still not really sure if he blew up the building they were in, or if that was a flashback or what. Regardless though, I think your comic looks really nice, and yeah I'm really impressed by your backgrounding skills

Wolfbaloo
Artist
33 comments
# 5   Posted: Oct 9 2017, 06:08 PM
Uploaded and fixed some errors on some panels. Can't wait to see Astro's pages!

Hellis
Artist
286 comments
# 4   Posted: Sep 16 2017, 03:55 AM
Aw yes! I've been waiting for more Harvey! Good luck on your first battle Wolf!

Animeshen
Artist
1490 comments
# 3   Posted: Sep 15 2017, 09:14 PM
shit yeah cant wait to read it!

JCee
Artist
425 comments
# 2   Posted: Sep 15 2017, 07:23 PM
Awesome!!

Good luck with your first battle Wolfbaloo!



Sean
Artist
384 comments
# 1   Posted: Sep 15 2017, 07:22 PM
Setting off a couple explosions in Heck's Gate! Good luck on your first battle, Wolfbaloo!

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