Mr. Creamy vs. Mimi The Mime

Mr. Creamy vs. Mimi The Mime

Mr. Creamy vs. Mimi The Mime

by Hiemie

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William_Duel
Community Manager
924 comments
# 29   Posted: Sep 12 2015, 06:29 PM

Hiemie: The comics I was introduced to you were all very funny and silly- this comic however was a great insight to just how well you can write/draw scary.
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...You should read Hiemie's Suit comics.

Hobbittastic
Artist
164 comments
# 28   Posted: Sep 12 2015, 06:26 PM
I AM SO SORRY THIS COMMENT IS LONG OVER DUE-
Both of these comics not only made me love Mimi even more, but gave me a new favorite with Mr Creamy who was new to me.

Hiemie: The comics I was introduced to you were all very funny and silly- this comic however was a great insight to just how well you can write/draw scary. Pages 8-10 are really the coolest and I really get the depth of the horrible situation and atmosphere in these pages (10 is def the highlight of the comic for me). The inks and washes are great- fantastic work.

Kozi: GOD where do I even start with this. This comic is amazingly drawn, the backgrounds are stunning and full and this is generally a well written and atmospheric comic. Like not only does it give great laughs but it generally very scary at parts. Page 6 pretty much sums up how I felt reading the comic haha. Bartender is looking so handsome in his pages. I thought it was a nice choice to give Creamy's ice cream a slightly different tone. High fashion illustration Babette is a great design (I first saw her as WIP when I saw your DA staff illustrations and I love when you draw that sort of Hirschfeld style). This is comic perfection.

Both of you should be really proud of these comics. They were wonderful reads and I had a fantastic time with them. Great job!

Kozispoon
Approval Committee
1055 comments
# 27   Posted: Aug 23 2015, 01:33 AM
This has got to be right up there as one of my favorite experiences battling on this site. This was so freakin' fun and I was so totally in the zone I can't tell you how thrilling it was to come away with a win. Thank you SO MUCH to everyone who voted, commented, or even silently gave this a read and enjoyed it. I had a great time working on this, and I hope you had a great time reading it. To answer some general questions, Hiemie and I did NOT collaborate on this, try as I might. He was adamant about keeping our ideas secret from each other, so we shared nothing with each other. It was just spooky circumstance that we went with the same idea! We showed each other our comics the day before deadline (since we both finished early) and laughed at how much of a hive mind we had going, haha!

And now for specific comments:

MYHATSEATPEOPLE- Haha, here's hoping the 'getting ice cream' trope of opening comics gets looked at with a leery eye from now on. Thank you so much for your comment!

DINO NEBITT- Your comment made my day. Horror and thrillers aren't really my forte, so taking on Hiemie's insidious Mr. Creamy felt like a hefty task. I was worried I'd do him a disservice and just make him look ridiculous/funny, but I'm so thrilled to know the spooky came across. Not to mention my opponent was more than helpful in giving me a short primer on what makes good horror and suspense. What little hints Hiemie did offer were definitely capitalized on. As for score, a member of deviantART has been reading my pages that I've been posting and suggested pairing a couple tunes found in his comment here. http://comments.deviantart.com/1/553131548/3922629298 Try giving it a re-read with this and tell me whatcha think! ;)

ANIMESHEN- Ah, thank you so much! <3  I can't tell you what a compliment that is knowing I mixed just the right amount of comedy and horror. I was worried I was being too heavy handed, but peril or no, Mimi is a toon and will react just so. It's good to know it didn't take awy from Creamy's creepiness. Gosh, 'perfect comic' is some serious high praise. I wont be able to get through doorways with the ego inflation this feedback is giving me, haha!
As for preferences, I feel Hiemie and I had a similar idea with the voice of God in regards to where we took Mimi, but I definitely think he articulated it better. (also, I HAD to have cameos! Gotta love 'em!)

PYRASTERRAN- 'Finest artists'? 'Best comic of the year'?? Ooh, someone fetch me my smelling salts, I'm feeling faint. Wow, thank you so so much! It feels good to know you felt there were real stakes at hand. Too often we read comics here where we simply assume/expect the artist lets their character get away, or not get hurt TOO much, or win. Is a natural inclination. With an opponent like Mr. Creamy, there just didn't seem to be any way to get out scott free. I totally understand being left with questions, which I am almost 99.9% sure is intentional in hiemie's side as well as mine, but I certainly hope it leaves you wanting more. I'll definitely be posting my pages to deviantART with your 'I felt a bit lost' comments in mind though. I'm sure I can rearrange the little dialogue there was to try and clarify it.

PITAFISH- First of all, you are a peach. A long in depth critique here AND continued comments on my pages posted on dA? You are a commenting beast and I love it! Also haha, I am SO glad someone caught my 'spirit medium' gag. I knew if anyone would get it, it'd be you. Peril or no, Cartoons are gonna toon. It simply takes a persistant horror like Creamy to see Mimi doesn't come away without a few marks to remember it by. Its readers like you that excite me about making comics. I know old timey toon antics are your wheelhouse and your investment in story, so its amazing to see a month of work got to you. Here's hoping it inspired! I simply can't wait to be dazzled by battles you no doubt will grace VOID with soon enough. P.S- Thanks for popping your comment cherry on our battle! so flattered! <3

MRNOITAULL- Wowza, thank you. Considering that up until then (I think), that was some serious nightmare fuel churned out by both artists, having it even mentioned in relation to my work is spectacular. I totally credit Hiemie with making my comic look good. He has a fantastic character to work with.

UNDERWOOD- I'm so glad someone noticed we both went at his full bore. I can't guess at Hiemie's motivations, but I've been wanting to battle him for forever, but never had the stones to just ask until he cornered me in a dark alley and issued a challenge. I was too scared to refuse and here we are! Comparing my comic to a silent film is HIGH PRAISE sir, and it couldn't of come from an artist I respect more. Thank you! Its great to know that comics that don't spell it out for you like I think both of these did are still enjoyable. Gotta look sequentials that make you have to use your noodle. Maybe even give it a second read. Highly recommend doing that in Hiemie's case. So many story hints and nuggets in all that wonderful art.

COATL- While I know you and many others hve read this, I can't tell you how simply commenting means so much. Even something as little as 'This is what I think!' As an artist its a public validation that you were here, and you wanna let me know my month of work was worth a nod or two. Don't ever let anyone tell you a comment will never be welcome, good or bad!
I'll admit, that while the ice cream trope as an intro is definitely overused on void, considering Mimi's history on the site, it seemed the most logical way to meander into Creamy territory, but I totally understand where you're coming from in saying the first few pages are a bit weak. I intended for humdrum everyday as a false sense of security, but I can see how it can be translated as a bit of a drag on the the story. Thanks for the note!

KARMACHARMA- Hey, late or early, comments are always welcome! Thanks so much for offering your two cents! you can repeat whatever you like. I'm tickled pink to know you dig my work! :D Haha, I was hoping you spied a little Conway in my pages- I always try to show some love to my fellow toon fighters. As for confusion regarding the transistion of locales, I'm wondering if maybe you skipped a page. The doors of the ice cream truck slam shut on page 4, and right after that, you see the ice cream truck sorta sizzle and phase out of the park and onto the boardwalk. I figured that'd explain the location change when they burst out of the truck together in a concise way, but if you're confused, I'll have to keep that in mind in my future work to clarify if need be.
Oh, i am so glad you liked the explosion. It wasn't until I worked on this comic that I realized traditional action scenes/explosions are NOT my forte. I kid you not, I knew i needed the scene in my script, but I agonized on how to draw it. Definitely an education!

Again, thank you so so very much to everyone who took the time out to vote and comment. This is definitely work I'm proud of, so I can't tell you what it means to see y'all really liked it,  giving me my first MG rank! :D Highlight of my VOID career- whoo!












KarmaLarma
Artist
61 comments
# 26   Posted: Aug 22 2015, 08:03 PM
Later than late to comment because I always ammm.

Hiemie: I'm a big fan of Mr. Creamy and his particular flavor of creepy, and this comic stuck right to his style while expanding on his story. I really loved the backstory with the eyes as the symbol being passed from person to person through the ages, and there's lot of little details to be caught during a second read through. I also think the watercolory style worked really well for this comic, even if it made things a little messy in some parts where there was a lot of dark grey ( I realized the second time that the god was covered in wires, not entrails ff). I think you could have also made better use of Mimi's tooniness since she seems a lot like just a normal person here, but I can understand if you avoided it to keep the mood of the comic more serious.

Kozi: This is my favorite thing you've done! I already told you that but I'll say it again hehe. Yours had a lot going on too so there was stuff I didn't notice on the first reading (like that little Conway sneakin' in among the movie posters, thanks for the cameo!). I got a little bit confused in the transition from the ice cream truck to the boardwalk at first glance since it seemed sudden, but I guess from the inside of the truck we really wouldn't see the sudden transportation to the new setting, so it still made sense. I really liked all your use of texture in the comic too, including all the effects like the explosion, and for the storyline of both of these comics, I can't wait to see what happens next!

Coatl
Artist
318 comments
# 25   Posted: Aug 19 2015, 01:53 AM
SCRATCH THAT, THEYRE BOTH ASS! WHAT A WASTE OF TIME!

Coatl
Artist
318 comments
# 24   Posted: Aug 18 2015, 08:25 PM
so I held off for as long as I could cause honestly I know so much backstory behind the making of this battle because we've talked personally that I don't even know if my comments will benefit either of you but I mustered up a list of things I'd like to see in the future and tried my best to be objective as possible so here we go:

Hiemie- I enjoyed that this story starts off as a self contained piece and then ends off as the beginning of a bigger event for the site. The God of Progress and Technology is such a unique character that people should definitely use him in their stories.
You had a great use of symbolism that i hope people check again and again.
I feel  that you shoulda take more advantage of warm/cool greys for the back stroy transitioning to the present or some better more clearer visual cue that it happen in a long time.
I know you had a limitation in drawing size but please, i'd like to see you work bigger to cover your mistakes.
Push contrast.

Kozi- Great presentation, great story, You know that I loved this story so much but I feel though that the intro was a bit weak because i dunno I know it connect but I feel like you could have pushed it somewhere in that sequence so that creamy's initial appearance could feel more impactful. Instead it feels like she just so happened to stumble upon this place.
In other words, I didnt feel like the story really started till page 7 which maybe be a few pages too later.

Field Marshal Lionel Forsythe W. Underwood XIII, GBE
Artist
136 comments
# 23   Posted: Aug 17 2015, 06:48 PM
This is what I would like to see on Void. Two artist going full steam and giving it all they've got. Going all six cylinders is a very good thing and to top it both of you didn't know what the other was writing! I love synchronicity.

Heimie did a splendid and magnificent crafting a lugubrious and eerie tale and it goes along with his inkwashes and inks. There were a few loose ends in the story which may lead to confusion but on a second read it suddenly dawns on you what you have missed. It is subtle but it hits you like a Chateau Lafite '97.

Kozi made a delightful comic which encompassed comedy, pathos  and horror. The basic ingredients for a good silent film (or comic in this case). Starting off with a lighthearted romp it evolves into spookfest galore. It plays out like a classic animation.

Both had ambiguities but I won't complain about since, since I think that it works perfectly with both storylines. Comics that make you wonder and think are my cup of tea.

In conclusion, both of you did a splendid duel that will be talked about for months . It is creamily devil-licious and I salute you both.

Darius Corry
Artist
427 comments
# 22   Posted: Aug 16 2015, 10:14 AM
This reminds me of Angie v Suit years ago.

This is one of the best to date.

Great job, guys.

Hiemie
Artist
511 comments
# 21   Posted: Aug 13 2015, 09:14 PM
PyrasTerran:
Pitafish: I got chills from reading both of these entries.  Amazingly, the both of you did a telling of a similar story with no influence from the other.  It's frighteningly interesting to see how that unfolded!
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Kozi and Hiemie didn't plan to do twin origin stories for mimi??
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It was actually entirely on accident.

PyrasTerran
Community Manager
1436 comments
# 20   Posted: Aug 13 2015, 08:57 PM
Pitafish: I got chills from reading both of these entries.  Amazingly, the both of you did a telling of a similar story with no influence from the other.  It's frighteningly interesting to see how that unfolded!
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Kozi and Hiemie didn't plan to do twin origin stories for mimi??

Pita
Think Tank
182 comments
# 19   Posted: Aug 13 2015, 08:53 PM
I got chills from reading both of these entries.  Amazingly, the both of you did a telling of a similar story with no influence from the other.  It's frighteningly interesting to see how that unfolded!

Hiemie's lore is gettin' deep!  I did talk with him a little about Mr. Creamy and the line of predecessors depicted in the first page, and it's a very nice concept.  The art icons chosen are easily recognizable and reflects well on the evolution of progress and technology.  I like how the guy in charge of this whole debt collecting plot is constantly changing his head, and they're recruiting some more people for their cause.  The dedication put into making this (it's all traditional inking!) is incredible, and I commend him for using a permanent medium like this.

That said, I was able to better understand what was going on by talking with the artist, and I feel like if I didn't have that conversation, I'd be confused.  Or, I would have gotten it after giving this a few more reads, who knows?  While I would personally love to see more of what's behind the curtains of this operation and learn what 'debt' is owed and why it's being collected in this way, I trust the artist knows what he's doing with writing and pacing out a good mystery.

But, I have to sway a little more towards Kozi's entry.  I have such a soft spot for toon antics, it's not fair.  There is some payoff to all the previous build-up, and while Mr. Creamy is an excellent source for scares, it was Mimi's transformation into a literal siren by her artists's own hands that got to me.
And the wordplay.  Spirit medium took the cake, I swear.

And again, in Kozi's entry, it isn't made abundantly clear what the 'debt' is that needs to be paid.  I'm not asking for an answer now, but I am waiting on baited breath for what might unfold in a future match.

PyrasTerran
Community Manager
1436 comments
# 18   Posted: Aug 13 2015, 04:49 PM
Both of you: I'm ashamed to say I'm kinda lost with the motivations of Mr Creamy in both comics, I don't understand where he ties into either version of Mimi's origin story... if that's intentional then great but all I know is that whatever he wants/whyever he isolated Mimi it spells trouble.

Hiemie: master of the creeps and you don't disappoint here! This one has the more esoteric ending though which made it hard for me to stay excited about after reading

Kozispoon: This is spectacular, one of the best comics of the year. The humor was great, the creeps was spot on and by the end of it even though I had some lingering questions I still felt that lingering sense of dread and real stakes at hand.

Fantastic job you guys but I wouldn't expect anything less from some of Void's finest artists~

Coatl
Artist
318 comments
# 17   Posted: Aug 13 2015, 12:24 AM
aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Shen
Global Moderator
1280 comments
# 16   Posted: Aug 12 2015, 05:52 PM
I don't even know what i can say that isn't just incomprehensible fangirlish gushing. you guys just- these are PERFECT. these are the comics i WISH i could draw. I am going to read these 1000 times to try and learn your secrets oh my god i want to fight you both and i know you would SLAY me.
hiemie, oh man what a great premise! what phenomenal imagery! your watercolour is amazing and i ADORE the background you gave Mimi for why she doesn't talk! if i was being nitpicky i'd say my only complaint is Mimi often looks a bit stiff and blocky where she should feel very fluid, but that does make her stand out against Creamy even more. I LOVED your last page.
Kozi holy shiiiiiit!! The perfect blend of comedy and horror, how do you do it! Mimi is always so hilarious even when shes in peril, but it never took away from the impact of the danger she was in because of how wonderfully EERIE you make Creamy! this has great action and layout and backgrounds and expressions oh man its like the perfect comic to me. I love her Black Canary supervoice too but i thiiiiiink I like Hiemie's "Mouth of God" background a tiiiiiiny bit more. also, loved the cameos lol!
These were both spectacularly spooky, I got chills reading them! Great work both of you, high scores from me!!

Heathen
Artist
334 comments
# 15   Posted: Aug 12 2015, 01:43 PM
I second that.

Maybe I'm just ignorant of Kozi's work (I'm ashamed to say), but being an enormous fan of Mr. Creamy, I ALMOST read Kozi's comic first, somehow knowing Hiemie's would trump it.  Save the best for last, they say.

I know now that I would have been wrong to do so, and my enjoyment of both of these comics would have been dulled.

Hiemie, I love your take on Mimi as not a Toon, but a human mime, who was once a great singer.  Your haunted pen bleeds ramshackle eeriness across these pages, as ever, and nobody quite does horror - does Creamy - like you.

But.

Kozi's comic is better.  She managed to deliver not only AAA creepy, but a heart-pounding romp through Hiemie's insidious boardwalk.  Converse to Hiemie's great spin on Mimi as a Vaudevillian theater singer, Kozi's 60's era fashion illustration - and her Toon mime subversion - is haunting in its portrayal.  

This comic opens with light slapstick, briskly jaunts across an all-too-familiarly creepy bridge, and then steadily turns the insanity up to 11.  I was on the edge of my seat the entire time, shit, I was scoring the whole thing with a darkly industrial mouth beat that surely annoyed my housemates.  By the end, I was grinning wickedly at Mimi's fate as some twisted Promethean Valkyrie, ringing in the Olde Year.

Fuck yeah.

MyHatsEatPeople
Artist
394 comments
# 14   Posted: Aug 12 2015, 01:20 PM
Holy shit guys I think this has definitely been put up there as one of my favourite void battles of all time. Seriously well done.

I may be avoiding ice cream for quite some time...

Bobo
Web Dev
894 comments
# 13   Posted: Aug 12 2015, 10:33 AM
Posted. Let me know if any pages are out of order!

Kozispoon
Approval Committee
1055 comments
# 12   Posted: Aug 11 2015, 09:52 PM
The both of us are uploaded-hooray! What say you to posting this ahead of deadline? I'm totes ok with this :D

Hiemie
Artist
511 comments
# 11   Posted: Aug 11 2015, 09:51 PM
The Deed is done. I too am uploaded.

If Kozi agrees, you can put it up a day early if you so deem OK.

Also, I THINK the pages are in the right order.

Kozispoon
Approval Committee
1055 comments
# 10   Posted: Jul 13 2015, 11:37 AM
*FLEXES* Let's do this thing and do it good! >=[

Edit- Welp, all uploaded and with a day to spare! I can't seem to upload the cover page for this comic on my own as it keeps rejecting it, so I sent a message to @angieness and @bobo to see what they could see. Sorry for the spam you's guys!

Jackster
Artist
304 comments
# 9   Posted: Jul 12 2015, 03:14 AM
ICE SCREAM!

justarhymes
Web Dev
636 comments
# 8   Posted: Jul 11 2015, 06:56 PM
I'm into this.

Hiemie
Artist
511 comments
# 7   Posted: Jul 11 2015, 03:16 PM
Stars are brightly shining.

Astro Sean
Approval Committee
318 comments
# 6   Posted: Jul 8 2015, 04:12 PM
Instant fear boner!

Shen
Global Moderator
1280 comments
# 5   Posted: Jul 8 2015, 02:14 PM
OH MY GOD YES

G.Lo
Artist
103 comments
# 4   Posted: Jul 8 2015, 11:48 AM
OH GOD YES.

Fearn
Artist
349 comments
# 3   Posted: Jul 8 2015, 11:18 AM
fuck aye! :D

Bittermause
Artist
242 comments
# 2   Posted: Jul 8 2015, 10:44 AM
Well hot damn

E.W. Schneider
Artist
1057 comments
# 1   Posted: Jul 8 2015, 10:32 AM
A good comic battle.

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