Go go year of the magical girls! I do like your choice of colours and I just love the way you draw them glossy lipss, Page 8 is my favourite <3
I understood what you were going for when I got to the last page but It's definitely the lack of establishing shots (as many people have already pointed out) that make it somewhat difficult to follow. Here's my example: page 4 confused me greatly because I thought it was the evil lady who said she needed some water LOL, I was under the assumption that Sanari was in a blue room that lead to a purple-lit room... on top of that there was no tail for that particular bubble and her mouth was also open so I ended up interpreting it that way.
As for the part of not being able to recognize Sanari straight away, you could always try and have dialogue help you out; a bit of her personality more in the dialogue I suppose? Like if her initial reaction was to yell at her dad or something... I dunno, maybe not exactly like that but just a bit of something to hint to who she is since she's not wearing her regular clothes. If I blocked out the visuals and just "heard" the dialogue without having anyone mention each others name, would I be able to tell the characters apart? That sort of thing you could watch out for, I hope that made sense haha
but dude 19 pages is a lot of effort and I can't wait for part two! Keep it up!
Year of the Magical Girl / Boom and Meredith
Critiques & Comments
# 19
Posted:
Jan 18 2015, 08:28 AM
# 18
Posted:
Jan 14 2015, 12:34 PM
That is some build up like whoa mang. @w@ Who is it? What's gonna happen? Is this the magical girl drudge match we've all waited for?
In either case, it was great seeing VOID's current magical girl posse all in one comic. Your colors were rich and bright (perhaps even sometimes a little too much), and your inks were bold. Considering the action depicted in these pages, I'm a little disappointed your paneling and layout of the scenes were kind of rinse/repeat. It would've been cool to get Dynamic in your angles were Meredith gets knocked back, or Lily's zombies turn on her.
Regardless, you got me intrigued for what's to come!
In either case, it was great seeing VOID's current magical girl posse all in one comic. Your colors were rich and bright (perhaps even sometimes a little too much), and your inks were bold. Considering the action depicted in these pages, I'm a little disappointed your paneling and layout of the scenes were kind of rinse/repeat. It would've been cool to get Dynamic in your angles were Meredith gets knocked back, or Lily's zombies turn on her.
Regardless, you got me intrigued for what's to come!
# 17
Posted:
Jan 12 2015, 07:45 PM
Hahah Abbas in a tanktop
If I mention anything that's already been said, just ignore it;
the bottom panel on page 5 is a lil too rigid in perspective, it would have been more enjoyable from a less static angle; the glowing on page 6 might have benefited from some white to make it seem brighter, and the same in page 17-18; On page 8, it took a moment for me to realize that the zombies had turned on her; a panel that shows the zombies surrounding her would fix this; Because of all the darkness there's alot of pages that would benefit from shadows, some pages have hilights from light sources but no shadows which removes some of the depth; as a minor detail, Sanari doesn't have to wear a hijab around Boom or Meredith in the apartment anymore~
This is an exciting comic, I can't wait to see what happens next!
If I mention anything that's already been said, just ignore it;
the bottom panel on page 5 is a lil too rigid in perspective, it would have been more enjoyable from a less static angle; the glowing on page 6 might have benefited from some white to make it seem brighter, and the same in page 17-18; On page 8, it took a moment for me to realize that the zombies had turned on her; a panel that shows the zombies surrounding her would fix this; Because of all the darkness there's alot of pages that would benefit from shadows, some pages have hilights from light sources but no shadows which removes some of the depth; as a minor detail, Sanari doesn't have to wear a hijab around Boom or Meredith in the apartment anymore~
This is an exciting comic, I can't wait to see what happens next!
# 16
Posted:
Jan 12 2015, 02:34 PM
Pepper: OOH I see what you're getting at. I think the problem is I'm scared to hit people over the head (i dont like when movies and tv tell me what im suppose to figure out) but sometimes it's not clear /ENOUGH/
Jiisuri: Been rereading your comment over and over cause I take it seriously. I really appreciate the crit and I agree a lot with you so thanks c: (you made a lot of good points)
Shen: Yeah with Sanari it was a little bit worrying since I figured she wouldn't sleep with her scarf (?) on and it made her less recognizable. OH MYGOD THE EVIL LADY /DOES/ LOOK LIKE MEREDITH! She gets out of the shadows soon and doesn't look so much like her- but yeah the silhouette is eerie haha (what a twist that would have been if it was meredith). Seriously need to address this wide shot/environment problem. I think I focus waaay too much on character acting and forget not everybody can assume whats going on (which is 100% my bad). This whole event of Part 1 is taking place only within an hour? Maybe less? It's very fast paced and I forget with comics people don't always read my shots as the same pace as I would.
...girl i love lisa frank
Jiisuri: Been rereading your comment over and over cause I take it seriously. I really appreciate the crit and I agree a lot with you so thanks c: (you made a lot of good points)
Shen: Yeah with Sanari it was a little bit worrying since I figured she wouldn't sleep with her scarf (?) on and it made her less recognizable. OH MYGOD THE EVIL LADY /DOES/ LOOK LIKE MEREDITH! She gets out of the shadows soon and doesn't look so much like her- but yeah the silhouette is eerie haha (what a twist that would have been if it was meredith). Seriously need to address this wide shot/environment problem. I think I focus waaay too much on character acting and forget not everybody can assume whats going on (which is 100% my bad). This whole event of Part 1 is taking place only within an hour? Maybe less? It's very fast paced and I forget with comics people don't always read my shots as the same pace as I would.
...girl i love lisa frank
# 15
Posted:
Jan 12 2015, 01:53 PM
ahhh I adore the colours you use in everything, you are like the only one I've ever seen make an obnoxiously bright colour palette work besides Lisa Frank XD This is a good setup to what looks like a thrilling story, looks like an evil woman is taking the powers from all the magical girls. i got that right away, but on the second read-through.... is Meredith the evil woman? does she KNOW shes the evil woman? Page 12 makes me wonder~ in any case my nitpicks are in agreement with Angie that you need to pull back sometimes to show some establishing shots, especially since you changed locations so much it would be helpful to know where everybody is. Also on the first read-through I didn't know that was Sanari right away on page 3 and 4 there.... I guess maybe I thought it was Meredith or something? since shes harder to recognize in the dark without her head scarf that would have been a good time to pull back so we could see more of her room and that may have given more visual clues. In any case, I'm super interested to see where part 2 takes us! My poor lovely Lilyfeather lost control of her zombies, ahh! (thanks for the cameo, haha!) Exciting start to this arc, finish it up so we can fight!
# 14
Posted:
Jan 10 2015, 11:17 PM
Ok so like nice colours and pretty nice lineart going on. I just sometimes have a hard time keeping track of what is going on at which location, which I will now segway into the main problem I have with this comic:
I have a vague idea what you're trying to do, but no idea what is actually going on.
I'm guessing you're trying to introduce some malevolent being that I'm guessing is hijacking magical forces. This is fine yes, but the problem is I am having a hard time following what is actually going on. I think it's because the panels don't flow well from one to another. Here a few examples.
Page 5 last panel has Regi sitting outside. Page 6 begins with two problems already. Panel 1 has Regi facing the reader with no indication of his new position inside the room. There is nothing to show that he has entered the room and he could very well be still outside the room shouting "GWEN" to some guy in the same room. Next is your choice of paneling on page 6's 1st, 2nd and 3rd panels. With the panels arranged that way and the same amount of gutter space, there's a conflict in where the reader will want to read next. Do we go from Regi to floating Gwen or do we go from Regi to Regi's hand on Gwen's shoulder?(Which by the way took me a while to figure out it was Regi's hand. Looked pretty feminine. 8'D)
Another issue I had was your choice of framing and art placed in each frame. Like the Lilyfeather page. It's all fine and all until we get to a rather unflattering second to last panel of a zombie doing erm... something I can't quite figure out but don't feel even a bit intimidated by. If you're gonna have Lily going "OH SHIET" on the last panel, at least make the zombies like... charge her or something.
Lastly, I believe you're switching to many places pretty rapidly without many good indicators of where the new locations are, so I get thrown around a lot and confused.
That said, all of these can be fixed by doing a little bit of research. Go read some horror comics or something( the good ones anyway) and study their choice of framing, viewpoint and location.
Also, I wanna see where this goes. :3
I have a vague idea what you're trying to do, but no idea what is actually going on.
I'm guessing you're trying to introduce some malevolent being that I'm guessing is hijacking magical forces. This is fine yes, but the problem is I am having a hard time following what is actually going on. I think it's because the panels don't flow well from one to another. Here a few examples.
Page 5 last panel has Regi sitting outside. Page 6 begins with two problems already. Panel 1 has Regi facing the reader with no indication of his new position inside the room. There is nothing to show that he has entered the room and he could very well be still outside the room shouting "GWEN" to some guy in the same room. Next is your choice of paneling on page 6's 1st, 2nd and 3rd panels. With the panels arranged that way and the same amount of gutter space, there's a conflict in where the reader will want to read next. Do we go from Regi to floating Gwen or do we go from Regi to Regi's hand on Gwen's shoulder?(Which by the way took me a while to figure out it was Regi's hand. Looked pretty feminine. 8'D)
Another issue I had was your choice of framing and art placed in each frame. Like the Lilyfeather page. It's all fine and all until we get to a rather unflattering second to last panel of a zombie doing erm... something I can't quite figure out but don't feel even a bit intimidated by. If you're gonna have Lily going "OH SHIET" on the last panel, at least make the zombies like... charge her or something.
Lastly, I believe you're switching to many places pretty rapidly without many good indicators of where the new locations are, so I get thrown around a lot and confused.
That said, all of these can be fixed by doing a little bit of research. Go read some horror comics or something( the good ones anyway) and study their choice of framing, viewpoint and location.
Also, I wanna see where this goes. :3
# 13
Posted:
Jan 10 2015, 03:54 PM
I think the issue is that it's too subtle. maybe something like either her shadow near them, or make the color jagged instead of just a gradient. I understand what you are going for, but it doesn't come across with a touch of color alone.
that aside, interesting stuff, looking forward to the next comic. X3
that aside, interesting stuff, looking forward to the next comic. X3
# 12
Posted:
Jan 10 2015, 01:57 PM
Angie- Thanks so much! I agree that I should have done wider shots- I think that's why each environment has it's own color pallet- but it does need more.
Can you please elaborate on the "showing the evil lady causing damage" etc point?
Because I feel like I've done that; she responds/reacts to each event? Her color palette even intrudes the Voiders palette so I tried doing that visually also. She has her own scenes after every event so I'm not sure what else I could have done to link her to them.
edit: @_@ im asking cause im not sure we're on the same page but i do want to know more because you have a valid point
Can you please elaborate on the "showing the evil lady causing damage" etc point?
Because I feel like I've done that; she responds/reacts to each event? Her color palette even intrudes the Voiders palette so I tried doing that visually also. She has her own scenes after every event so I'm not sure what else I could have done to link her to them.
edit: @_@ im asking cause im not sure we're on the same page but i do want to know more because you have a valid point
# 11
Posted:
Jan 10 2015, 01:28 PM
This is very nicely colored, I like your choice in palette! This feels a little disjointed though. I think it's all the closeups. When you're jumping around to different locations be sure to include some sort of establishing shot so the viewer can take a moment to breath and figure out where the comic is taking place. It may have also helped to better show that the evil lady was doing something to each person earlier in each scene transition. You don't need an exposition dump or anything, just something visually to better connect each scene and to show they're all being influenced by this lady. I actually didn't get that that's what was going on until I read through a second time, so that could have helped.
# 10
Posted:
Jan 10 2015, 12:39 PM
Thanks so much Pocky!
Most of my comments are about backgrounds and pacing so I tried to keep that in mind a lot of this comic. Lilyfeather /is/ freaking out about her zombies- some stuff might seem kinda weird but I swear it will be explained
*Look for the color purple*
Most of my comments are about backgrounds and pacing so I tried to keep that in mind a lot of this comic. Lilyfeather /is/ freaking out about her zombies- some stuff might seem kinda weird but I swear it will be explained
*Look for the color purple*
# 9
Posted:
Jan 10 2015, 07:40 AM
The quality is much better and the pacing is much slower than your previous work (both are supposed to be good points). I think the only part that tripped me is page 11 with the last panel (is Lilyfeather freaking out about her own zombies?). Boom and Gwen being buddies is really cute. I think you stopped at a nice point for a cliffhanger too--hope to see the continuation soon!
# 8
Posted:
Jan 8 2015, 10:18 PM
It's time.
# 7
Posted:
Jan 7 2015, 04:23 PM
STOKED! HYPE HYPE
# 6
Posted:
Jan 1 2015, 09:17 PM
two parters are the best so I'm double looking forward now
# 5
Posted:
Jan 1 2015, 08:21 PM
This is going to end up being a two parter because I don't want to turn in 40 pages and I found a good point to break it up. So this BB will be PART ONE and after it goes live I'll submit PART TWO.
# 4
Posted:
Dec 24 2014, 06:20 PM
Extended it because I want to make sure I can do my idea 100%
Super excited about this because it's going to be /loooong/
Super excited about this because it's going to be /loooong/
# 3
Posted:
Dec 4 2014, 09:11 PM
Let the sparkles fly!
# 2
Posted:
Dec 4 2014, 06:47 PM
sounds adorable!
# 1
Posted:
Dec 4 2014, 04:20 PM
aieee
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I hope you all enjoyed part 1 and I appreciate the time spent on the crits.
Going to take some extra time and punch up part 2 so it will hopefully address some of the problems that were brought up. I want to improve in comics a lot this year!!