The Forgotten One / Angela Rudell

The Forgotten One / Angela Rudell

The Forgotten One — Angela Rudell

by Angie

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Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 31   Posted: Apr 5 2011, 09:00 AM
Glad it was helpful :D

Wolcik
Artist
492 comments
# 30   Posted: Apr 5 2011, 02:30 AM
Thanks Angie, I checked dpi on this battle and realised that I didn't need to resize mine to 72 XD You're the only person I'm certain to check on this site, so from now on maybe my battles have a better quality thanks to you XD

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 29   Posted: Jan 27 2011, 12:55 PM
Chia you better be back in the saddle young lady.

Lune, it's because I'm mean bwahahaha

luniara
Artist
528 comments
# 28   Posted: Jan 25 2011, 08:24 AM
WHY, why leave us at a cliff hanger!?
WAH!

Chia
Artist
82 comments
# 27   Posted: Jan 24 2011, 07:53 PM
Aaaah good ol' Void. Been a long time since I last read any of your stuff. Entertaining as always!

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 26   Posted: Jan 23 2011, 06:42 PM
Jho-nah you weren't harsh, I appreciate the feedback and I totally agree with you. I'll try and work on those issues. Part of why I started doing black and white was to help me with composition and using negative space and stuff. I'll put more care into my silhouettes in the future since that was partly just poor planning on my part.

Anonymous-thank you very much, I'm glad you like her!

anonymous
91 comments
# 25   Posted: Jan 23 2011, 06:23 PM
I truly love your character, by far one of the most developed characters in void city. Please keep up the amazing work.

jho
Artist
485 comments
# 24   Posted: Jan 23 2011, 04:21 PM
Everyone already covered most of what i was going to say (bad and good), so my nitpicky part is definitely in the bloody pages where the lady is maiming the guy, i understand the use of shilhouette is very good for dramatic effect, but i feel like you could've worked in some more shape in *especially in the last panel with bloody claws) as it feels a bit way bare and less dramatic that i could have been. I think it's the way you draw the shapes feels like way too simplified cut outs instead of an actual shilhouette/shape of the object? I just think it probably doesn't work in this particular panel, considering the impact it should have delivered (in my opinion)

Definitely put extra careful care using composition if you're using simplistic shapes for maximum impact.

Also, i understand this is a style you're trying to use a different approach in drawing expression, and this maybe just a personal preference but the way you draw the victim expressions is almost too cartoony, the super buggy eyes doesn't seem to work well in some parts like page 9 and on (and the way he looks 'clean' despite the torture, minding blood aside.)

I suppose yes, work/practice on composition and do a lot of practice on drawing expressions. Exaggerated or not will  probably be very useful. try observing subtle parts of people's face that changes when people express mixed emotions and play them up. Sometimes less is more.

Sorry if it seems harsh, hopefully it helps though.

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 23   Posted: Jan 23 2011, 06:49 AM
William-yeah, I had some issues with consistency in the style there as well. It didn't help that like the first few pages were drawn quite a bit earlier when I'd wanted it to be slightly more realistic. I do agree on the eyes, I'll watch out for that. I'm still getting a feel for my style with humans so I'll make sure I practice more for the next comic! I'll also work on hands and other anatomy too.

Michael-yeah, honestly when the script was written he was only tied up and not hanging by hooks. The hooks were added  pretty much because they looked neat in the drawing stage haha so had I gone with what I'd initially written he wouldn't have bled to death. That was really a huge oversight on my part and I should have stuck with the ropes since I obviously didn't think the hooks through. Clearly making significant changes just cause it looked cool probably wasn't the best idea. And it's fine, you're not being a hater,  I don't always think about details like that so having them pointed out makes it so I can work on it.

Thanks for the crits guys! And I've had to edit this reply like 5 times since I make no sense in the morning, so hopefully this made sense! haha

michaelharris
Artist
352 comments
# 22   Posted: Jan 23 2011, 01:42 AM
I really want you to do more research when you write.
You tend to have unrealistic characters in harsh situations and I can't really feel for them. It kind of feels like action movie characters that have been thrust into a drama.

I really wanted you to research torture and how it works, what is good and is not good for it. I realize I know more about that human body than most people ever will, but that guy would have bled to death, at the very least unconsciousness, before she ever talked to him. I know this might come across as nitpicky but if you really want to write for a larger audience it needs to be more believable. I thought the conversation lasted way too long. One of the things most writers say is that you need to enter a scene as late as possible and leave as early as possible.

I love that you are continuing Angela's story, I just want to BELIEVE in these characters. I wanted to be horrified when that guy got slaughtered. But, from the first scene, the only thing in my head was, "that guy is bleeding to death, there is no way he could talk" and I immediately couldn't get involved in the story and the only thing I saw were the flaws.

I don't mean to be a hater, I just really want you to look at you characters in a more realistic light, including all the minor details, that is what makes characters really come to life. Also... do some perspective drawing! Its like vegetables, theY taste nasty, but the make all strong and healthy like.

William_Duel
Community Manager
942 comments
# 21   Posted: Jan 22 2011, 10:33 PM
I liked it and in all honesty I liked it more than the last few.  Not artistically mind you because the art is much simpler and not nearly as complex as the last few but from a storytelling perspective I like this.  I don't agree with Cherubas' idea because it's too cliche for the villain to stand in front of the hero revealing their plan.  It's too outdated a method, though I won't lie, I'd probably do it myself that way.  This method is interesting because we as readers are still being informed without going down that route.  It's a good intro and we get a feel for this character.  She definitely has a different voice than angie's.  I do agree that her lines could have been spruced up but I chalk it up to the inexperience of writing such a character.  She's whimsically evil.  

Now I'm not too fond of what I see as a clash of styles here.  I know you're experimenting with this cartoony style but I feel like it messes up the tone of the story.  You started out with this darker tone and more serious style but that guy she's torturing is almost silly.  Her expressions are fine though and I think they help establish her personality.  Not that guy though, his huge eyeballs shouldn't be so huge.  Especially when kateri and Angie don't really share those traits.  Also her hands are weird.  Her fingers seem too long and her thumb needs to be more connected.  This was a somewhat consistent anatomical error.  But I'm excited because this is a good development and a fight between these two hemophages (was that the term?) could allow for some creative choreography.








Pepper JAQ
Artist
212 comments
# 20   Posted: Jan 22 2011, 09:10 PM
Harsh. nice work, angie.

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 19   Posted: Jan 22 2011, 08:11 PM
Thanks Drawdan :D yeah, this was kind of meant to be a prologue to our comic so I could establish a few things and get familiar with the character. It was pretty fun to draw her since her personality developed more as I drew each page and by the end I really enjoyed drawing her. So definitely looking forward to our collab!

drawdan
Artist
312 comments
# 18   Posted: Jan 22 2011, 08:00 PM
I liked this alot. I think people are getting a little too fussy, this is just a simple 5 minutes of Kateri's life. From a roleplaying perspective, I see it as a work out peice alowing Ang to get inside her new characters head. When I drew her, I wrote Kateri a little more reserved. I like this side of her much better, ...she is brutal and merciless and though very inteligent...a little touched in the head. She will be a fun bad guy. Looking forward to our colab Ang. As soon as this tourney is done, its on.....

ironlion82
Artist
12 comments
# 17   Posted: Jan 22 2011, 06:34 PM
I'm interested in seeing where this goes

William_Duel
Community Manager
942 comments
# 16   Posted: Jan 22 2011, 04:55 PM
Ultimecia, the tyrant witch from the future.

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 15   Posted: Jan 21 2011, 10:25 PM
Yeah it can be difficult to write a crazy evilish kind of character without it ending up really cliche, I did my best to avoid it but I imagine it's inevitable haha. As for a lot of this being summed up in a speech before a clash, I'm just personally all about build up. I hope to have her show up a few times and leak a little info each time instead of just straight up letting the viewer know everything right away. The info's all gonna be out there eventually! I think the best way to put it is did you ever grow up playing Final Fantasy? Who was the more awesome villain, Sephiroth or that lady I can't remember from FF8 because she just appears out of nowhere at the end? haha For me it was Sephiroth since he had a presence for a long time whereas FF8 lady at the end I was like um ok. (oh god who was she anyways? Anyone? Was it Rinoa possessed or something?)

Thanks for the crits though!

And thanks for the comments so far guys, I appreciate it!

Cherubas
Artist
175 comments
# 14   Posted: Jan 21 2011, 10:15 PM
I suppose the classic "compliment sandwich" is the best way to go.

[Top Bun]This character seems interesting. A little cliche', but definitely interesting. I'm actually rather eager to see where the storyline goes from here. Knowing a hero/villain clash is on the horizon is always exciting and I'm really hoping this clash will be one to remember.

[Krabby Patty]That being said, artistically this is not my favorite of your works. I know you like to try different things, I admire that, but then again if you weren't looking for honest feedback I imagine this comic would never make it to this site, and my honest opinion is that this comic was lacking compared to some of the stuff I've seen from you. Also, plotwise, I felt that this whole comic could have been replaced and summed up in her introduction speech moments before she clashes with Angela. With a whimsical grin she could probably sum up in a few sentences or so what she talked about with this man against a silhouetted flashback or something. Other little factoids, like her being the one who came up with the masks, could be mentioned by one of Angela's concerned co-workers while they geared up for the battle itself. Some of the lines were a little cheesy too.

[Bottom Bun]This all comes simply because I view you as such a high caliber artist though, know that much. Most of your stuff is still leaps and bounds ahead of some of us, and this falls into that category too. While it didn't appeal to me personally, I understand the heavy amount of black and the lack of color aside from red was to set the mood and such. It did achieve that goal. The anatomy was pretty solid and there were a lot of good expressions throughout. Looking forward to where this goes. Keep up the good work.

Zest
Artist
141 comments
# 13   Posted: Jan 21 2011, 10:14 PM
Lordy lordy lordy I loved this one... the palette and the textures set a great mood, and it looks like it's gonna lead to a totally kickass story arc. The reunion's gonna be great.

Runic
Artist
52 comments
# 12   Posted: Jan 21 2011, 08:50 PM
Oh man. I loved this entry! You just keep on dishin' them out, eh?
The limited color palette works well to set the tense mood. The connection to read this was slow for me so that just increased my anticipation to see the next page.
I got a little nervous about the threat of what would happen to the guy's eye because I have sort of a phobia with anything that deals with eyes. Eeeegh!
For once I have something to point out! Page 9! When the man rears his head back to laugh. It was a bit unclear for me at first. The "HAHAHAHAHA" seems a bit too crowded making it just a tad bit hard to read. Perhaps expanding it out of the word bubble?
Over all. I really loved this one. Each comic you make seems to get better and better which  makes me very envious of you. I wish that I had the motivation to shell out full sequences like this in a timely manner.
Stupid video games...

Also SHLUCK!

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 11   Posted: Jan 21 2011, 08:40 PM
There we go, enjoy! Writing crazy bitches is hard without making them sound like they walked out of an 80s villains convention.

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 10   Posted: Jan 21 2011, 06:03 PM
All done! After I go through it with a fine tooth comb, it'll go up.

QtRNevermore
Artist
286 comments
# 9   Posted: Jan 20 2011, 06:18 PM
*bounce bounce bounce* more angie!!!

Red
Council
651 comments
# 8   Posted: Jan 19 2011, 09:58 PM
I AM EXCITEBIKE.

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 7   Posted: Jan 19 2011, 07:44 AM
The_BenT_One: I'm in lesbians with your comics
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haha Thank you very much!

And RTV you can see the full version at http://angieness.deviantart.com/#/d37fifl

Rtv!
Artist
603 comments
# 6   Posted: Jan 19 2011, 05:01 AM
i like the new avatar.

The Bent One
Artist
564 comments
# 5   Posted: Jan 18 2011, 09:54 PM
I'm in lesbians with your comics

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 4   Posted: Jan 18 2011, 07:59 PM
haha well I don't know if there's much lesbianing going on in this one

KevJB
Artist
62 comments
# 3   Posted: Jan 18 2011, 07:45 PM
The greatest gift is surely lesbians :P

Aluísio C. Santos
Artist
735 comments
# 2   Posted: Jan 17 2011, 07:05 PM
I expect great kitten sexiness.

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 1   Posted: Jan 17 2011, 02:25 PM
This will probably be finished significantly earlier than the deadline, that's just a random date I tossed out. The comic itself just has 3 pages to go with a few panels I'd like to redo. So provided I don't suddenly get like 80 billion pages I have to knock out for some jobs, this'll probably be up in a week or so.

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