Monster / Azriel

Monster — Azriel

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Master Loki
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35 comments
# 10   Posted: May 17 2009, 10:32 PM
Schupfnudel - Yup, I intend to explain more on his origins, as well as why his brothers are killing him and the like in my next BB I'm working on after my current fight. Yeah, I definitely know that I am lacking in backgrounds. I have a tough time getting references since most of the time I am nowhere near a computer and/or magazine or anything of that sort but I actually bought a ref. book today so hopefully I'll be able to do some better ones. Thanks (:

JoshuaEliGilley - I'll keep trying on the perspective / anatomy. It's been pointed out several times and I already know it's worse than my Achilles heel at the moment. I'm going to try to explain it some more in my next BB, especially of Azriel's dog/human origins when his brothers have nothing of the sort. Thanks for the crit!

schupfnudel
Artist
18 comments
# 9   Posted: May 17 2009, 03:08 PM
I really liked the creepy atmosphere you've going on here. I guess this is a sort of transition storywise, so I don't have much to say about that otherwise that I don't get it ... But as long as it'll be explained afterwards that's ok in my book. You might want to make your bgs a bit more detailed. They're kind of boring and simplistic right now. How about using references for your bgs? It could give you some ideas how to design your street scenes and help with the perspective.  

I'm curious how you'll continue this =)

JoshuaEliGilley
Artist
462 comments
# 8   Posted: May 15 2009, 05:23 PM
Hey Loki, definitely liked what you did with the more muted colors here, and more additions of heavy black areas. That contrasted well with the warm yellow of the "happy panels" Definitely nice improvements. I'd like to see you put in even more spot blacks, because the contrast there was looking real nice on the first 2 panels. At first i thought your size relations were off, but I guess Evida is a huge ass dog so nevermind!. Just keep training on your perspective and anatomy, it did the job, but could use some refinement. will come thru experience. Seems like a cool direction your taking the character, him turning to a monster and all. However, i gotta say I didn't understand where the dog brothers came from and why they attacked all of a sudden.  Read through your older comics and didn't see anything about those characters.  I guess one of those evil dogs was in the bub fight, but I wasn't really sure what the deal was with the devil dog there either. Even a little history would have helped alot to establish this struggle, and why Az was reluctant to fight back. Keep it up man.

Master Loki
Artist
35 comments
# 7   Posted: May 13 2009, 02:39 PM
Angie - Ah, okay, I didn't realize. I've been on Void for quite awhile length wise, but I don't know too much about the ins and outs since my internet time is sort of limited for me to read too much. That was helpful though, thank you.

Armonis - I used more black shading on this one just because on my last battle they said that the color/inking tone did not match the overall dark tone of my comic, so I tried a much darker inking / color palette. Next time I do a dark entry, I'll experiment with that more. Thank you, I'll continue working on it. (:

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 6   Posted: May 12 2009, 11:39 PM
That's why you should only scar match people who you know wouldn't fuck you over. While it's looked down upon, if you want a specific scar you can always ask someone to give it to your character. That's what happened in my match vs Kotori, she really wanted Frank to get a specific scar so I threw Angie her way. If that's how you want a character to get a scar by all means go for it, even if some people may get their panties in a bunch over it it really doesn't matter. If you're ever interested in doing a scar match, just hit up people you know you can trust and if you're worried, get it in writing that they won't do anything too crazy and send it to the mods. You don't have to have the scar known by both parties in that situation.

But yeah, in short, don't let a few bizarre scars scare you from going into a scar match, there's only been like 3 or 4 people that I can think of that ever really did crazy scars.

Master Loki
Artist
35 comments
# 5   Posted: May 12 2009, 10:38 PM
Michael Harris -Well, I normally don’t enjoy doing gory stuff or anything with fighting in it for that matter. I only had one real fight in one of my battles and that lasted only about one page. So, in a sense I understand where you are coming from and I realize that people aren’t going to read all of it, I just put the note there so people would put that into consideration since in my last battle when I did not put the note, a lot of people were asking what the beginning was about. I did not intend to reflect whining, as you said, the whole fight was necessary for me to get to where I really want to get to with this character and I did not want to do it in the form of a scar match since it would be dependent on me losing and my character could be turned into gorilla, for all I know. I haven’t really seen other people put a note describing their stories for other continuing lines, which is why I refrained because I was not sure if it was appropriate for this website, but I’ll definitely take advantage of that in the future.

Don’t worry about being nitpicky. I really appreciate the crits wherever I can get them as I know I have a long way to go. I recently just started to get my grip on 1 point perspective. Perspective and anatomy have always kicked my ass, but I hope to take some risks that will hopefully be for the better in my next battle. Thanks again!

michaelharris
Artist
353 comments
# 4   Posted: May 12 2009, 07:52 PM
I am guessing this story relies heavily on the story preceding it. You might want to be a tad more cognizant of the fact that most people aren't going to go back and read the previous stories so it might be good to previde a page of text letting us know the relevant preceding definition. The story really didn't appeal to me because I hate stories where the protagonist spends the entire story getting beat up. It got kind of annoying, why were the dogs eating him? I understand that I am not the average reader but I couldn't really care about the character I kind of just wanted him to stop whining. I am not trying to be harsh but I just couldn't relate to him at all.

As for the art, your characters look pretty good but its time you branch out and learn to start using 2 and 3 point perspective. When you have competant character structure and then you draw backgrounds that aren't 3 dimensional it heavily takes away from the art. If you are going to draw someone getting ripped apart you should look at anatomy more. In the panel where we see the rib bones, we wouldn't see the points of them, in fact most of your ribs don't even end in points. I am not saying you need to take an anatomy class, but just  google a picture of a skeleton and the muscles of the human body. One more nitpicky thing is that a human arm wouldn't make a clean snap in the mddle of a bone, it would be ripped of at the should or the elbow and takes a lot more work than you described. I would also check out osme anima anotmoy too


Master Loki
Artist
35 comments
# 3   Posted: May 12 2009, 01:54 PM
Angie - Thanks for the consistent critiques you've been giving me. I really look forward to them and appreciate them, just so you know. Aside from that, I'll continue to work on what you said as I know that it's my issue. I do hope to explain it further story wise. I kind of realized how vague I had made it and it really had nothing to do with depression. They're his brothers, which I noted at one point in the comic and any form of fighting back or getting away on his part would have led to their death since his only method of fighting back, really, is biting. Sorry about that confusion there, I'll try to clarify it more next time.

Jared - Aye, thanks man. I know what you're saying and I do tend to do that, but I'm definitely trying to work on it each comment. Thanks again for the crit!

Kuro
Artist
581 comments
# 2   Posted: May 12 2009, 01:26 PM
(hey... hey... I have my reasons, angie haha)

what angie said is pretty spot on though. not only are the heads big for the bodies, all of the faces seem to have very similar facial features with very few variations. and while it's a bit hard to describe, it seems sometimes as if you draw the heads in a panel & then try to squeeze & fit bodies or details into that panel & try to make things fit rather than setting up the composition where the focus is immediate or draw the anatomy in full as it would reach past the borders of the panel. if that makes any sense. focus on the composition of the panels a bit more & draw figures in full, even if they continue past the edges. but nice traditional colors are always good. very nice on that end.

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 1   Posted: May 12 2009, 08:55 AM
Damn, really? No one else has commented? For shame, Void.

I think this was on par with your last battle quality wise which is good. You're still having problems with faces, especially in the side shots, like everyone's faces are really wide and their heads are really big in comparison to their bodies. But there were some panels where it wasn't present like the 4th panel on page 3, so it looks like you're starting to get the hang of it.

Story wise I was really confused about what was going on, while I'd read your last battle it kind of hurt you to start it in the middle of the action. I understood why the dogs were attacking from your battle, but I guess I was mostly confused about why Azriel didn't really try to fight back or get away. Even if I was crazy depressed I don't think I'd let dogs just rip my shit apart. I'm hoping this stuff will be explained in time and this is all build up to something big, which if that's the case it should pay off in the long run.

But yeah, other than that your quality was good, the story was just confusing.

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