Ronin vs. Dizzy and Big Brother

Ronin vs. Dizzy and Big Brother

Ronin vs. Dizzy and Big Brother

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682 points
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by Jetaime

58.5%
960 points
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jho
Artist
485 comments
# 27   Posted: Nov 28 2008, 07:10 AM
jetaime, that was a blast, I like the pacing. It was so easy and smooth to read. loved it. Your figures are ace, also your negative space. Shit, you need to finish stuff now. this is very solid, love your works man

ronin  that was short an sweet but i liked your interp, kinda surreal bt it's nicely made..
good battle guys, enjoyed it

aribooboo
Artist
282 comments
# 26   Posted: Nov 25 2008, 09:40 AM
I'm speechless 8O

Ronin: it was short, but i loved that sooooo much. Your wording, the pauses and everything, it made me shiver. I love those kinds of things, and I love what you did here /D the illustrations went really well with what was being said~ You draw the best hands :D Nice job on this one, i think this is my favorite of yours!

Jetaime: WOOOOOOOWW is all i can say! Your figures, they look really nice and move smoothy. I had no trouble figuring out what was going on. I loved every page of it; i couldn't possibly pick my favorite. The whole time i felt like i was watching a movie. Your grey tones are ace too. The story was hella cute too, i loved it and read it all with no problem. Though, i didn't really get the last page..but maybe that just cuz i'm not up to date with the chars. Very good job on this and i hope you do more! OUO

Nibbles
Artist
192 comments
# 25   Posted: Nov 24 2008, 08:31 PM
Jetaime... While others didn't like the grey, and how dark it was--it made me feel at home.  It reminded me of the blistering hot and too damn bright to see properly Texas summer.  It's so beautiful I'm actually freakin' crying here.

Ronin... I read yours first, and my first thought was how much I liked it more than your others.  Keep up the good work.

Jetaime
Artist
100 comments
# 24   Posted: Nov 24 2008, 01:18 PM
i'm a masochist like that.

squid
Artist
421 comments
# 23   Posted: Nov 24 2008, 01:01 PM
ohh man, then why did you torture yourself with such a large page count?? Haha.

Jetaime
Artist
100 comments
# 22   Posted: Nov 24 2008, 12:17 PM
thanks very much for the crits and comments. i really appreciate the support.
to everyone who thought the tones were muddy or dark: i know. i feel a tangible sting in my heart every time i look at them.

monday: i draw on 11"x17" bristol with a 1" border drawn around it. then i ink with different things (usually microns). in this comic i actually tried using nibs because i was reading bakuman and mashiro said that all the pros in japan use nibs... i'm not too fond of the results.
nibs are great because they offer fantastic line variation and they let you ink a page very quickly. the problem was that i just couldn't ink accurately with them.
that's why you can see some cut-out frames: most of the drawings i decided to live with, but the really FUBAR ones were re-drawn and taped on top of the original. after that, i watered down some acrylic ink and applied some tones (which i will never do again).
thanks for the kind words---i swear the next comic will be truly worthy of such praise.

squid: haha i'm surprised to hear that you didn't care much for the story, actually. if there was anything i wasn't remorseful about in this comic, it was the script. if i had the time, i probably would have dragged it out even longer!
i'm right there with you about the art, though. i decided to be dumb, i guess, because i actually didn't start drawing until a week into the match, and even then, i'd draw a page and then put off drawing the next one until later until i found myself drawing the last 3 pages the day before the deadline. hence the sparse and often nonexistent backgrounds (i tried to omit the BGs where i thought i could get away with it).
i wish comics were easy for me, but honestly each page is a struggle preceded by crippling anxiety.

angie: i'll definitely stick around.

squid
Artist
421 comments
# 21   Posted: Nov 24 2008, 10:39 AM
jetaime, I just wanted to come back here and say that the first two pages were basically brilliant; I began to get the sensation that I was falling along with Dizzy. But then page 3 was there and it was kind of bare in comparison.
Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that while the first 3 pages work so well, the rest of the pages don't have that unity anymore... like there's good stuff going on in the individual panels, but as pages they don't work as well as a whole. I'm not sure what the deal is though; maybe it's the tones not working together, or maybe the spare backgrounds?

well, I hope that helps, anyway XD

amazingdavid
Artist
441 comments
# 20   Posted: Nov 24 2008, 01:40 AM
Jet: Excellent, Fantastic, Superb, Extraordinary!! I have more adjectives but I think I should critique. This blew me away, story art the whole shebang was all great.  It had all the qualities of BD, Manga, and American comics rolled into a giant glorious dubie that would smoke and hallucinate for hours on just excited about this. The only thing I didn't like was that the value for your grey when they are sitting under the tree was too dark I thought alot of your great line work just kinda blended in.  I'm going to have to battle you someday...

Ronin: This was nice I felt you started out really strong but kinda got bored with it halfway through.  You had a great introductory one liner...which immediately sucked me into the story then it just kinda got redundant.  I felt the art was decent, but kind of had the same problem of starting out superb then getting all super lose towards the end.

squid
Artist
421 comments
# 19   Posted: Nov 23 2008, 10:38 AM
ronin: this was totally giving me Katamari vibes by the second page. XD I like this weird blue inverted style.

jetaime: I officially hate everything I've ever drawn D:
I didn't like the gray pages though, that dulled everything down quite a lot. The story didn't grab me, but I was too busy admiring the art to care XD Howver, I kinda feel like it could've been shorter and still accomplished the same things.

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 18   Posted: Nov 23 2008, 10:26 AM
Ronin-I liked that you took a different approach to your comic story wise, this was pretty interesting. I'm not a fan of your digital work, I think that if you want to do anything digitally you may want to do it traditionally first and then scan it in and toy with it in Photoshop so you can retain your nice lineart. You don't have to do stuff that's exclusively traditional or done all in Photoshop, it never hurts to combine the two, especially when your lineart is stronger traditionally.

Jetaime-This is really one of the few times I can't find much that can be improved on. Honestly the only thing that would have helped is better scans because things occasionally looked muddy. But other than that you pretty much did my favorite type of comic to read, it's so rare that someone on Void does something like this and you really pulled it off well. The character interaction was convincing and you had wonderful pacing. Pages 1-3 are easily my favorite things I have seen on Void this year. You better stick around

Monday
Artist
933 comments
# 17   Posted: Nov 23 2008, 10:09 AM
Jet , the imagery on the first 3 pages alone took me out of the belief that this was void for a moment.  And I was reading some really crazy indy comic in a magical store somewhere. The fact that you were able to pull off such amazing imagery and manipulated pacing to create a very understandable 15 page /MOMENT/ is such an amazing feat to witness from you. Furthermore your use of tools was really shining new ideas for me- sometimes making me want to madly go back to ink in a tototally new way.  My only technical complaints at this point is my seeing the cut outs on the frames - really thats it - now it just makes want to ask questions about your process. And hope to heaven that she sees another fight - but fuck goddamn she's dead isn't she :<

Ronin, you've improved yourself but in the space of 4 weeks the pages are really speaking like it was a two week rush that didn't have the support of sketches or a second run-through. While One week rushes are all what I'm known for you can stand to make your pages look a little more fleshed out or your lines a little smoother. My first technical complaint is that you may want to save on a higher quality jpeg, if thats not possible then pngs do fine on pictures with a limited color pallet .  Better luck next time.

Good Battle you two.

Jetaime
Artist
100 comments
# 16   Posted: Nov 23 2008, 09:52 AM
i loved your side, ronin.
your art has stepped up---i thought the imagery of ronin floating in an endless white space with the luminescent blue snowflakes (i say snowflakes because that's what i think when i see them) was very beautiful.
but even better than that, i think your story was something i haven't seen from you before. to see ronin ascending to what could possibly be complete inner peace only to end up alone beside his makeshift shack was just too tragic. it hurt so good!

i'm glad i was the one to battle you when you put something like this out.  

Dimension
Artist
489 comments
# 15   Posted: Nov 23 2008, 08:02 AM
@ronin: personally I liked the quality of your last battle, this one didn't seem as strong :0 your ink work is not as sweet. Story wise, I'm not so sure as to what was going on, but it was still a pretty quick, nice and simple read; not bad.

@Jetaime: I'm inspired... and I have like..no complaints with your battle really. Every thing looked very nice and the story was also pretty entertaining. I loved the part where Ronin beats the ice cream man up XD that was awesome~
gretat job.

Kon
Artist
194 comments
# 14   Posted: Nov 23 2008, 04:32 AM
I read Ronin's battle first and I was like " woa he improved", it was really poetic but it seemed a bit more like an intro. And then I read Jetaime's, and I was stunned. This is my favorite battle on VOID.

ronin-soul
Artist
81 comments
# 13   Posted: Nov 22 2008, 10:44 PM
.......................................D:

Holy shit, Jetaime. This might be my most favorite battle ever.

..;_; I'm sorry for my crappy entry. I would give some excuse, but I'm too in awe of your battle. Thank you.

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 12   Posted: Nov 19 2008, 06:07 PM
Manually uploaded Jetaime's part, I will let Toast know so that he can put the battle up

Jetaime
Artist
100 comments
# 11   Posted: Nov 19 2008, 03:27 PM
strange... i can't log in on a my mac, but i can on someone else's pc.

anyway, i'm uploaded.
i actually finished a comic.

Monday
Artist
933 comments
# 10   Posted: Nov 10 2008, 10:32 PM
XXO !? THAAAAAaaaaannk you ~

Kon
Artist
194 comments
# 9   Posted: Nov 2 2008, 08:49 AM
ZSA STOP SPEAKING FRENCH LIKE THAT!

AWESOME

IWIHASCOE
Artist
178 comments
# 8   Posted: Oct 28 2008, 06:40 AM
T_T So much awesome....

Aluísio C. Santos
Artist
735 comments
# 7   Posted: Oct 28 2008, 05:47 AM
J\'et aime

Jetaime
Artist
100 comments
# 6   Posted: Oct 24 2008, 03:42 PM
i have a story in mind for my next character involving XXO.
WE MUST FIGHT.

Monday
Artist
933 comments
# 5   Posted: Oct 22 2008, 06:25 PM
BIG BROTHER

THE ONE PERSON I WANTED TO FIGHT !

NUOUOOOOOO !!!!

Betito
Artist
104 comments
# 4   Posted: Oct 22 2008, 03:24 PM
Go Roniiin!  =O

Aluísio C. Santos
Artist
735 comments
# 3   Posted: Oct 22 2008, 07:44 AM
Jet-Aim-Me!!!

jho
Artist
485 comments
# 2   Posted: Oct 22 2008, 07:27 AM
KEVIN GO GO GO

Phill
Artist
895 comments
# 1   Posted: Oct 22 2008, 03:51 AM
Now there\'s an artist whom we haven\'t seen in quite some time!

Comic Details -

 
Drawing Time: 4 weeks
Ended: Nov 30th, 2008
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