Mokuu: I thought your story was quaint and a bit so-so. What I really enjoyed was your inking ability. Although mostly focused on the characters and not the backgrounds it still gave a sense of volume and depth. It looked very old school Disney (and I don\'t mean that as a diss that\'s a huge compliment!) I like the use of markers although I think it\'s inhibiting your inking from looking as crisp as it possibly could. ( Unless of course you were going for the um...greyer look to your lines) I would suggest taking your pages into Photoshop and fucking aroudn with the levels so you can give your lines and colors some punch.
Wolcik: I felt your stry was a little more exciting, but the art for me, wasn\'t of the same quality. I don\'t want to beat a dead horse so I won\'t repeat what everybody else has said. Something I did enjoy was the plethora of facial expressions your characters had.
Keep up the good work both of you
Abrao The Spark vs. Worltex
Critiques & Comments
# 16
Posted:
Nov 7 2008, 10:26 AM
# 15
Posted:
Nov 5 2008, 07:02 AM
I\'m sorry guys, but these were hard to work through.
Here\'s one crit that applies to both of you: absolutely awful text. Hand letter, or choose better fonts, or something. It looked like you guys added text with MS Paint.
Mokuu: Ho-hum story. as for the art, you really should pay more attention to backgrounds. Your city is totally abandoned. There are no parked cars, no parking meters, no signs, no garbage cans - etc. Add some detail. With backgrounds you should either draw something interesting, or just leave the background blank. Not a big problem, but something you should think about.
Wolcik: If you\'re going to do monochrome images - you need to have far more contrast. You seemed to get better towards the end, but the first several pages all just gray with a side of gray with an extra helping of gray smothered in grayvy. I actually thought your story was a bit more interesting than your opponents though.
Here\'s one crit that applies to both of you: absolutely awful text. Hand letter, or choose better fonts, or something. It looked like you guys added text with MS Paint.
Mokuu: Ho-hum story. as for the art, you really should pay more attention to backgrounds. Your city is totally abandoned. There are no parked cars, no parking meters, no signs, no garbage cans - etc. Add some detail. With backgrounds you should either draw something interesting, or just leave the background blank. Not a big problem, but something you should think about.
Wolcik: If you\'re going to do monochrome images - you need to have far more contrast. You seemed to get better towards the end, but the first several pages all just gray with a side of gray with an extra helping of gray smothered in grayvy. I actually thought your story was a bit more interesting than your opponents though.
# 14
Posted:
Nov 4 2008, 03:56 PM
Webrynth:
Like Mokuu already said I didn\'t talk to him about it even once after accepting the challange. At first I thought about Abrao going berserk on someone, but than he\'s not that kind of monkey, so I ended up having him being cornered by someone because he looks like/is a furry, use ground smashing just to show that W is able to do so, the flying thing came next because I didn\'t wanted to make it any longer by fighting scenes or making W chased by NCPD, not yet at least. It\'s not my fault that at some time we had this mind connection and those ideas were very similar - I belive that Mokuu knew that W isn\'t someone that would spank a monkey for no reason XD
michaelharris:
I thought that I fixed all mistakes. I even read if few times before uploading but it just splips through me... i guess I suck too much when it comes to english XD
Backgrounds are hard, but I\'m trying my best to work on them, but in the end it usually comes to ruler
Mokuu:
I understand that black and brown could harm the color gamme, but you gave W pants and a coat Oo, he even went back to wearing bandages on his arms - how is he suppose to defend himself from bullets in WonderWoman style now? Otherwise he\'s lovable
Like Mokuu already said I didn\'t talk to him about it even once after accepting the challange. At first I thought about Abrao going berserk on someone, but than he\'s not that kind of monkey, so I ended up having him being cornered by someone because he looks like/is a furry, use ground smashing just to show that W is able to do so, the flying thing came next because I didn\'t wanted to make it any longer by fighting scenes or making W chased by NCPD, not yet at least. It\'s not my fault that at some time we had this mind connection and those ideas were very similar - I belive that Mokuu knew that W isn\'t someone that would spank a monkey for no reason XD
michaelharris:
I thought that I fixed all mistakes. I even read if few times before uploading but it just splips through me... i guess I suck too much when it comes to english XD
Backgrounds are hard, but I\'m trying my best to work on them, but in the end it usually comes to ruler
Mokuu:
I understand that black and brown could harm the color gamme, but you gave W pants and a coat Oo, he even went back to wearing bandages on his arms - how is he suppose to defend himself from bullets in WonderWoman style now? Otherwise he\'s lovable
# 13
Posted:
Nov 4 2008, 02:58 PM
Webrynth: Bro, when i saw his piece, i was completely dashes by the story similarities, its like we had the same mind at these exact moments, yet we never spoke to each other when doing theses, thats fucked up ROFL. I wont be able to get over this interstellar mind fusion we had for this battle, that just made my day
michaelharris: I think we spoke of this before but i gotta remind you: i already played with digital coloring, im still playing with it for job purposes but i absolutely hate it and wont solely rely on it for experimental works like this. Sure, the colors look mucky, know what, next time try and use alternate saturations of the same colors instead of grey rendering below color flats. Or if i can afford it with comissions, prismacolor pencils over marker flats on actual marker paper instead of blueline paper which may end up in brighter colors as the paper wont suck up the marker as much as the blueline. But hey, the more experiments occur, the more results accumulated, a preferred technique is adapted/blended and used till it becomes a real time saver and then Weeeeeee better backgrounds. XD
michaelharris: I think we spoke of this before but i gotta remind you: i already played with digital coloring, im still playing with it for job purposes but i absolutely hate it and wont solely rely on it for experimental works like this. Sure, the colors look mucky, know what, next time try and use alternate saturations of the same colors instead of grey rendering below color flats. Or if i can afford it with comissions, prismacolor pencils over marker flats on actual marker paper instead of blueline paper which may end up in brighter colors as the paper wont suck up the marker as much as the blueline. But hey, the more experiments occur, the more results accumulated, a preferred technique is adapted/blended and used till it becomes a real time saver and then Weeeeeee better backgrounds. XD
# 12
Posted:
Nov 4 2008, 01:42 PM
P.S. I\'m and non thinking, studying ahead Idiot once in a while. But then again I strike that dragon through the heart as I write.
# 11
Posted:
Nov 4 2008, 01:37 PM
Both Wolcik and Mokuu Did very entertaining works here. But I think they colaberated to much on this battle.
So hey! There was even a oint in there were I could have sworn there was a simpatico plot run. Maybe it\'s not forwned upon and it makes things roll better between artist during a battle... but to the reader it takes away from the entertainment to see similar things going on. It\'s better if things are fresh, blind, Art. THere are of course arguments against this way of looking at it; but I beleive my address is solid.
Other than that guys; I realy like both of those peices. Over all I still think that the entertainment was the hightest score on both of the Votes I cast.
So hey! There was even a oint in there were I could have sworn there was a simpatico plot run. Maybe it\'s not forwned upon and it makes things roll better between artist during a battle... but to the reader it takes away from the entertainment to see similar things going on. It\'s better if things are fresh, blind, Art. THere are of course arguments against this way of looking at it; but I beleive my address is solid.
Other than that guys; I realy like both of those peices. Over all I still think that the entertainment was the hightest score on both of the Votes I cast.
# 10
Posted:
Nov 4 2008, 10:08 AM
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, we somehow had some kind of a mental cross over, this is fucking madness. Man im shocked, we both thought about Worltex\'s earth powers and the flying ability questions, a real time paradox.
Thats messed up lol
Oh and didn\'t want to make him look like an emo, just tried to evade playing with black when coloring :S Grayscale markers really killed the value and saturation.
We gotta make a sequel at one point later on.
You got way better than last times, quite a jump.
Thats messed up lol
Oh and didn\'t want to make him look like an emo, just tried to evade playing with black when coloring :S Grayscale markers really killed the value and saturation.
We gotta make a sequel at one point later on.
You got way better than last times, quite a jump.
# 9
Posted:
Nov 4 2008, 09:55 AM
Wolcik, excellent job. I would suggest you draw more backgrounds to get a better hold on perspective. There were a few grammatical/spelling errors too. I like how you draw people though.
Mokuu, I like your characterization and I like that you are using perspective with some proficiency, I would suggest you use photoshop. Because it has that Hanna Barberra-painted with guoche-animation cell look. You might be going for that but I think it look a little mucky.
good job both on completed comics!
Mokuu, I like your characterization and I like that you are using perspective with some proficiency, I would suggest you use photoshop. Because it has that Hanna Barberra-painted with guoche-animation cell look. You might be going for that but I think it look a little mucky.
good job both on completed comics!
# 8
Posted:
Nov 4 2008, 09:31 AM
It\'s like WoW O_O I\'m very impressed
This new coloring technique looks nice I like the story but I have few things that bugs me... You tottaly changed my fighters design - both color wise and cloths. I\'m not mad that you made him look like a emo, that\'s actually funny XD
I can\'t belive that we both decided to ask each other fighters about ability to fly XD
This new coloring technique looks nice I like the story but I have few things that bugs me... You tottaly changed my fighters design - both color wise and cloths. I\'m not mad that you made him look like a emo, that\'s actually funny XD
I can\'t belive that we both decided to ask each other fighters about ability to fly XD
# 7
Posted:
Nov 4 2008, 05:59 AM
Shit, that was too close for comfort, was able to submit, barely cause my connection did right when i hit \"submit a comic\", fucking videotron, had to use my new mobile phone to have a friend, get into my account while i transferred files from the hone to him, i sure hope he submitted it in the right order, still 2 hours before the deadline. Now i gotta get back to hassling with the company.
Oh and as for extra info:
Experiment #5:
1.blueline paper is weak
2.Next time 4 to 5 panels
3.Grey shadows with marker = Very Grim tones.
4.Coloring with markers make you fu**ing high.
5.10000 more panels to go.
Gotta finish shit i owe to people so going AWOL for a week or two.
Kick some asses !
Oh and as for extra info:
Experiment #5:
1.blueline paper is weak
2.Next time 4 to 5 panels
3.Grey shadows with marker = Very Grim tones.
4.Coloring with markers make you fu**ing high.
5.10000 more panels to go.
Gotta finish shit i owe to people so going AWOL for a week or two.
Kick some asses !
# 6
Posted:
Nov 3 2008, 01:51 PM
Heh, I\'m fine - I could do better, but I don\'t think that extention would give anything good
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>>> UPLOADED 12 pages + cover <<<
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insted of wiriting an extra page I\'ll write it here for people that care:
I know that I could draw it even better if... well, to be honest I don\'t know \"what if\", but basiclly the \"cover\" page could be an avrage level - let\'s just hope that in future I\'ll be able to draw more pages like that in 3 weekers.
- cover is colored, but I didn\'t find time or strengh to colour it
- pages 1-6 were colored but the colors were off so I turned them into greyish scale
- page 7 looks fine with color, so I left it like that to show why the previous pages might seem too dark
- pages 8-12 were colored in 2/3 evenings, and I rushed the this all because I would make it with coloring other way
I\'m sorry that I didn\'t use \"Dead month\" scenario that would give more sensles fighting but I\'m revently thinking about giving the meaning to Worltex (and show his true behaviour) than showing his magic capabilities (like I did in one beyond battle).
I learnet few things just by drawning but any critique is welcome
Mokuu I expect to see something awsome from you XD
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>>> UPLOADED 12 pages + cover <<<
_________________________________
insted of wiriting an extra page I\'ll write it here for people that care:
I know that I could draw it even better if... well, to be honest I don\'t know \"what if\", but basiclly the \"cover\" page could be an avrage level - let\'s just hope that in future I\'ll be able to draw more pages like that in 3 weekers.
- cover is colored, but I didn\'t find time or strengh to colour it
- pages 1-6 were colored but the colors were off so I turned them into greyish scale
- page 7 looks fine with color, so I left it like that to show why the previous pages might seem too dark
- pages 8-12 were colored in 2/3 evenings, and I rushed the this all because I would make it with coloring other way
I\'m sorry that I didn\'t use \"Dead month\" scenario that would give more sensles fighting but I\'m revently thinking about giving the meaning to Worltex (and show his true behaviour) than showing his magic capabilities (like I did in one beyond battle).
I learnet few things just by drawning but any critique is welcome
Mokuu I expect to see something awsome from you XD
# 5
Posted:
Nov 3 2008, 01:45 AM
Yo Wolcik, are you gonna be able to submit today or do we extend this? Im all set but i wouldn\'t mind the extension if you got complications.
# 4
Posted:
Oct 22 2008, 10:38 AM
HEH! Mokuu\'s back!
# 3
Posted:
Oct 16 2008, 09:14 AM
If you want to add some extra spice to this, make sure your penciling is done by next Monday Backup each pages on a usb key, laptop 1 and laptop 2, add laser turrets next to that usb key which will only recognize your finger prints with vital signs above 80%(You never know when you can get drugged on random instances). Spin kick whoever gets near the perimeter for that kick. And if anything else fails, well, there is always a double extension or pushing the match to another time.
But no-defaulting.
But no-defaulting.
# 2
Posted:
Oct 16 2008, 06:35 AM
OK, so I have 2 laptops here if mine would fail (but it\'s too young to do that). I have my scanner but if something happens I\'ll borrow one in one or two days after mine would fail. This won\'t be default because any technical reason...
I already planned the story (maybe I could change two last pages), but the cover is already drawn so I should finish at least some of it.
I need to extra concious about defaulting, but other than that - good luck Mokuu!
I already planned the story (maybe I could change two last pages), but the cover is already drawn so I should finish at least some of it.
I need to extra concious about defaulting, but other than that - good luck Mokuu!
# 1
Posted:
Oct 15 2008, 01:00 PM
Ooo good luck you 2
Regular Match
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3 weeks
Ended:
Nov 10th, 2008
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22
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Winner:
Mokuu
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I need to focus even more on my grammar and how to make better dialoque ballons that will need better fonts (maybe each person will get diffrent one).
If I won\'t use color than it\'s better to use just two greyish colors, or rather crappy color is always better than switching it to greyscale.
It\'s better to draw less pages and focus more on each panel than making a long story - but I don\'t know how can I compress the story yet.
I discrovered that using black is also a good option - both for backgrounds and shading characters - you\'ll see what I\'m talking about in my next BB, cause I\'ve already drawn some of it and it\'s pretty good