I like both styles quite a lot, but I must say that Kain's battle somewhat bothered me due to the \"n00b\" speak in the comic itself. It's one thing to have to read through a bunch of \"U\"s and \"UR\"s online, but to deal with it in a comic? Whoooo...that's not working for me. :\\
Aside from that, great battles both of you.
Wow, kain's an ass...lol but an AMUSING ass...
great work both of you, I like both your styles and look forward to more.
Kutthroat, Kain is hilarious! If cussin' it up and treatin' woman like crap is his gig, don't let people tell you otherwise...it's your character after all...
ehhh.. apologies if I sounded rude back there, killa. it's just that i did spend a lot of time killing my hand in making sure my pages looked good enough by my standards to upload, and it's been a long day. thanks for commenting..
I'll have you guys know I almost killed my hand and wrist doing that colouring. My previous battle was done in pencil and it didn't turn out too well, so I decided to go with PS colouring this time to make it look better. I NEVER use the fill bucket, by the way, and NOTHING was vector inked. The only thing I used was my tablet and Photoshop. In fact, I even sketched it in on my laptop with my tablet as well because I don't have access to a scanner in my college dorm. So technically, the computer did not 'do the colouring for me'. killa, I suggest you try digital colouring (that is, not sloppily slapping colour all over everything or relying on tools) sometime before making dismissive remarks implying that it is easy work.
Killa I use to think the same exact way until I actually tried my hand at digital coloring. weve had plenty of arguments on this in the forums and you have to realize that digital coloring is some reeeaaaallllyyy tough shit. and swifts colors are lookin real good here and i give him/her full respect for that. its swifts' thought process makin the art. not the medium. computer aint doin shit except playin the role of canvas and tools.
swift- good battle, even though i usually dont credit artists who let the computer color for them all that much. id like to see some pencil or marker skills from you, but your finished product is very nice.
kutthroat- you get my overall vote. the way you blend markers is beautiful.
skills, everyone, ...actual skills!
LOL okay. i thought there was no need to take your anger out on everything haha.. and yes, that was a good battle =) there's a lot of people that seem to like kain, good on ya!
wow.. that's intense. i think both of you need to take a chillpill. personally i had no problems at all with kain's dialogue.. i sort of got the idea it'd be in-character for him to be a bit more free with his words, which is why he calls kally a bitch in my strip too xD still, i don't think there was a need for that kind of explosive reaction. eh. just don't make it into a petty brawl, fellas. the world's got enough drama as it is.
thanks for the crit, zato. my last battle was an experiment with pure pencil tones, which obviously didn't go well (it might seem petty and soreloserish of me but i still blame my scanner for being too sensitive.. it honestly looked a lot better in real life).. so i decided to revert to my photoshop roots in this one. though obviously i need to work on backgrounds.. i resolve to do better for my next one ;P
and.. kt.. i know ya probably didn't mean it dude, and i had lots of fun battling you, but there's no need to call my character a bitch outside of your battle :\\
And Phil, you're not helping either. There's really no need to agitate the kid, let alone put a target on your head. I KNOW how people like this function, and you're just going to regret it later. Lay back and keep your cool, if someone's meant to go down they'll destroy themselves if it comes to that.
Jesus hell, just when I thought this kid was cool, he goes and stabs someone while my back is turned.
Kutthroat, calm down. PLEASE. The point of critiques are to help you improve your comics to the eyes of your viewers, you know, the people that READ your comic? And like all things feedback, critiques are OPINIONS. You don't have to listen to them if you don't want to, but they are what people think of your comic. This DOESN'T mean to blow them off completely, and raging angry responses don't get you anything either except disrespect. It doesn't matter HOW long you've been drawing or HOW good you THINK you are, you're in VOID now and you play by our rules. Don't expect us to all bow down for you, because you have to earn your respect from the bottom up, and right now you're not getting any.
And now to pull myself from the argument, I'm gonna throw down a critique as well (and if SOMEHOW this makes me a Sesame Street fagmotard like you seem to think of EVERYONE, then I have no more hope for you). Firstly I notice that your panelwork is awkward to read. There's not a single establishing shot in your entire entry. Your coloring is good, but your figures look flat and lack depth save for the highlights on Ka'liara's skin. Your action panels are also lacking in dynamic, and for those action panels that DO look decent, they're usually dragged down in quality by your awkward paneling (i.e., on page 3 suddenly Ka'liara's being choked without a HINT that he was going to choke her beforehand, and afterwards she somehow breaks the strangle with nothing showing it). I have no qualms about Kain's language, it's within context and it's in character. The script, however, I found rather boring, especially the representation of Ka'liara's character. What I find bland in many fights is that an artist wouldn't use the other's character to their full extent; this fight could have been written for ANY random girl with a blade, so there's no feeling of interaction between the two characters, just \"Kain and a girl\" instead of \"Kain vs Ka'liara\".
I'll end on the note that critiques are NOT meant to INSULT in any way. Critiques, I stress, are OPINIONS. If you still feel the need to curse me off and get your butt buddies to back you up for this then go ahead; no one's telling you how to earn your \"respect\".
Swift : This is a really unexpected jump in skill level, you've really improved on this fight. The application of color theory on your colors just WORKS to so many levels; it sets a mood and establishes an environment. Your action was a bit bland but it was easier to follow than Kain's. I also found the general lack of backgrounds a bit disturbing, but the colors still bring the figures to life, so it balances out on that level. Overall you have an above-average entry that was enjoyable to look at. I hope I can see more work of this level or better, keep it up.
Settle down kids. No need to get your panties wet for something so trivial. Sheesh. All of yall need to stop thinking your almighty and get a lesson in humility.
4 one thing, i wasnt even talking 2 u redblood! if i wanted 2 talk shit i woulda done it when people were telling me that r characters would make 4 a good fight & u responded that id hafta wait because every1 wants u on a silver platter.... OH, .....what a BAD ASS! i didnt want anything 2 do with any1 that thinks hes that cool. how does telling me that i swear 2 much help me in any artistic sense? im in the middle of battles with kick-ass artists like the bronxartist & go-bee & now i hafta deal with the gay lover of heathcliff? im gonna fuck your cat UP! & im gonna do it in the most obscene, offensive way i can come up with. so call all your stick-up-their-ass friends & tell em that my shit is naughty. maybe then they'll vote 4 u then u, the FCC, & rosie o'donnel can get me kicked off the internet. sound good? ya whack bitch. challenge accepted.
Hoo boy... no love from Kutthroat. Even though my critique was designed to help you out. But calling me a pussy huh, and a writer for seasame street? Hoo boy, you have no idea where you are my furry friend. Let's see how you feel about a battle against me? I'm pretty sure after I beat your ass, you won't be thinking of this cat as a pussy (Maybe something worse...) but you'll learn your place here in void brotha.
ive been working with my kain saga for a couple of years now, & i thought it'd b cool 2 c other artist's renditions of kain. i hafta first thank swift. u did kain alot of justice. it was awesome 2 c him in action thru your interpretation. im real glad we battled weather or not i win or lose. that being said, everyone else on here is pussy! who the fuck is commenting on my battle? people who like action fights, or the writting staff for sesame street? people r saying that i lose respect points for looking at the female character in my battle as a hooker or sex object.....boo-fuckin-hoo. like i wanted respect points from u. how else am i supposed to treat the bitch? r these comments from peers or the fucking backstreet boys!?! everyone is offended because of excessive swearing in my script! if u r under 18 & your mommy didnt prepare u 2 handle explicit language, then get a fucking archie comics, ya buncha fags!
kutthroat.. dude, i envy your marker skillz man ;) and the way you lay out your pages, your perspective sense is great. though you made kal a bit too.. well.. slutty-looking, than how i envisioned her. but eh, i got no -real- complaints. it may be your style of drawing women, i dunno.
thanks for critiquing me guys.. action comicking is a new thing for me and i'm still getting used to it all.. particularly drawing humanoids.
wyvern - kain's right hand is in fact a cyber-hand - at least it says so in his desc - so i guess i just ran with that. guess i should have made it clearer.
molotai - i'd seen other standard fights where they got bloodied up and appendages hacked off so i figured it was okay.. i just flew with it basically.
pi - i certainly hope i'll be fighting more and getting better. college and personal projects are hot on my agenda right now.. but it's been fun =)
thanks muchly. <3
You guys are crazy. When he cracked that girl in her shit, it was funny. And if you think he swears too much, you must think I'm some sort of madman. I only saw like one swear.. I think..
I, too, think Swift's fight was better... but it should be a lot closer.
Kain: what they said.
Ka'liara: looks great, but i could bearly read the black writing on the dark blue background. might just be my screen is set to dark or somthing like that, but i did have some issues with that.
Choice: Ka'liara
kutthroat: most everyone else has covered what I was gonna say, so I'll leave it at that.
swift: damn, that's the best stuff I've ever seen from you (which, now that I think about it, isn't much). Still, I really liked the way you colored this. It looked extremely pro, and I'm glad you pulled it off. The story was pretty funny as well, so I give this fight to you.
Kain: There was almost no flow to what your showing us, and the women sex objects joke has been overdone in void, Thank its mayor for that one. Really there just wasnt much appealing about the fight in general, and no thought behind the story line.
\"Cat pulls in, cat calls girl hooker, girl slashes tires, cat punches girl, End\"
Ka'liara: Hopefully youll start working on your fly poses a bit more, I dont think you pulled them off convincingly, at least all of them. Whereas I wish you could have found another way besides resorting to something more suited to a scar match, I suppose he can always get that surgically reattached ;P Also remember to work on your facial expressions, im seeing a wide range in this peice, but not all of them pulled off successfully. All in all, you got talent though, and you need to run with it!
Overall Choice: Ka'liara
Kain - Wow. Offensive and boring. Huzzuh. Your quality was good, though your panel set up got very reused after awhile. I sincerely hope you don't make every girl you ever fight into a hooker or sex object, 'cause this fight was way down there on the respect points for me.
Kaliara - Big improvement! I was very impressed with what you were able to pull out here, good job! You could still use work on your action (particularly that scene where she cuts off his hand...ow...I could barely tell what was happening), but it makes a big difference to see you in colour.
kutthroat- artistically you had a better quality going on there but i agree with phil, there was abit too much swearin.
swift- Loved how you coloured this, especially the bit with the street lights
Hmmm... I can't vote just yet, but I can critique
Kutthroat: Pretty good artwise... but storywise I can now see what dan means by RTV! syndrome... way too much swearing, even for my tastes, plus it was very difficult to see what was happening durring the fight. Perhapes maybe just maybe you could make kain less of a pimp and give him a more likeable personality (please take no offence to what I'm saying man) like, maybe a Chris Farley superhero type perhaps? That would be pretty fun to see. But other than that this is a fine first comic on void, don't stop drawing now!
Swift: One of your pages don't work (page 3 leads to an error for some reason) so I'll comment on what I see right now. So far, artwise you're even with kutthroat for me. Storywise this comic was alot more appealing, I also like the color scheme used for this, you just need to pump this up a notch with some backgrounds and you'll be unstoppable girl! My vote is for you once I see the 3rd page.
Both good, keep it up or something?
Cool character kutthroat..on you your future matches could you battle RedBlood Phil? Cherrie Fox? Knifes? and or Smiley's character Kimitoku? that would rock.
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