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GO FOR BROKE! / Re: Some Things
« on: Mar 07, 2009, 02:58 PM »
I can honestly say I'm jealous of you.  Your work is great.

spit spat, time to chat / Re: Cool Stuff I Found
« on: Mar 07, 2009, 02:53 PM »
(Author's Note: Please forgive this wordy prick.  I tend to go into lengthy expositions of (whatever really) from time to time)

Well while it's true that our own dogma is what lead to what we have today, I still hold to my argument for the Japanese side because there are examples.  I'm not saying they are superior, but that the general standard of what is accepted is different.  Two of the ones that come off the top of my head are Devilman and one of the Tezuka's own works, Cleopatra.  Devilman for its time was going into competition with Gatchaman, which was insanely popular at the time.  So it was one of the first animes to be broadcast at a later time for adults and had a relatively good amount of violence and blood (like most of Go Nagai's works.  If anything, he came under PTA attack more than anyone else). 

Tezuka's Cleopatra introduced sex into the equation, not as exploitation or pornography, but because he wanted to explore animation as an artistic medium.  It didn't do very well.  Even worse, when America got the rights to it (Fritz the Cat was out and about around this time) they tried to make it similar to Fritz, and basically cut out anything that wasn't sex and renamed it something like 'Cleopatra the Sex Queen', (I dunno I 'd have to look it up).  Tezuka wasn't quite happy about this edit, and was reported as being somewhat happy about its failure in the states. 

Then OVAs in the 80's did their own thing...

You may be right, I may be portraying them as more heroic than they should be, they may not have even been aiming for anything like that.  But I believe these guys were the forerunners to the anime we have today.  They pushed the envelope in some places and while it may not have been regarded at the time, it eventually became what we know.  Plus you can kinda see the influence of the early mangakas (Nagai, Tezuka, Ishinomori, etc.) pretty much anywhere you look, since well, who hasn't taken their cue from them?

But you're also right in that the powers that be also exploit and mass produce anime products for big bucks.  Some crap out there is just cookie cutter and not really a change in anything.  It's mainstream MTV.  But it happens everywhere.  Here, there, video games, comics, animation, there's always gonna be a big company that doesn't actually care about what it's producing but rather how they can take advantage of it.  For example, as much as I love Gundam, their biggest concern is creating new model kits to sell.  This sometimes becomes blatantly obvious in the show itself.  And like Greenblatt said, action shows make toys.

I liked Samurai Jack but just as note, did you notice how recklessly violent it was?  I mean, he fought robots always, but that furthers the argument.  He's a samurai whose never seen a robot, he would have cut it up bad even if it weren't.  I just thought it was interesting how they decided to go about that. 

I agree with your bullshit comment Kuro but thats how it's always gonna be.  And I guess I need to find the Warriors since it has so many rave reviews.

spit spat, time to chat / Re: Cool Stuff I Found
« on: Mar 06, 2009, 11:14 PM »
I still enjoy that stuff and more so when it's done well, although to be honest I never did like Texhnolyze.  I myself like a wide variety of things although I tend to gravitate between the sort of heroic archetypes and the relatively dark stuff.  I always saw the whole "anime aren't cartoons" argument a little silly, because by definition, yeah they're cartoons, but of course, fans of anime don't want to be seen as doing something childish and the stigma that goes with that.  I had two friends in High school who almost got into a fist fight because of this issue.  One said "cartoons", the other guy shoved him, and they were ready to rumble and had to be broken up.  Stupid stuff really.

But a really important difference between Japanese and American animation is that Japan already went through all the stigma and crap.  Really it started in the 70's, Japan fought the battles and won.  This battle mainly took place in the world of manga, as PTA groups actually had public burnings of a lot of manga.  But the authors held fast and eventually they won and that's part of the reason why the standards are different. 

We on the other hand, got the comics code slapped on and so, the growth of things like comic books as an art form got stunted.  I dunno but I think for the Japanese, this 'victory' on what was the standard got transferred to anime which goes hand in hand.  I think a similar effect happened in American animation, comics got slapped with the comics code and therefore that determined what was acceptable to children in general.  And of course, there's Disney. 

I have no idea what Chowder is, to be honest I haven't watched any sort of animation on TV for a long time (except for the usual Simpsons, Family Guy, King of the Hill and Venture Bros.).  Most stuff seems to have moved exclusively to Saturday mornings and I don't get up on Saturday mornings...

spit spat, time to chat / Re: THE GOOD OL PHOTO-THREAT.
« on: Mar 06, 2009, 04:45 PM »
...isn't that just her without glasses?

Art Jams / Re: BATTLE HYPE JAM!!!!
« on: Mar 05, 2009, 04:42 PM »
I was thinking about it, since I would like to see some sort of huge gang war  ;D
I was thinking about how Marvel does big events or even DC, where there is a huge central story (that could possibly be portrayed in a Beyond Battle) and then the character's own series' portray portions of that huge story.  So why couldn't you guys decide on a sort of random tournament scale, have characters from the different gangs battle it and all be part of a larger story?  I've seen battles on Void that portray other people's fights in background events.  You can totally disregard this comment if it's too dumb  :P

I was terribly fond of this movie, I mean the guy did it in his basement for several years and really I just like it.
We Are The Strange
Oh and for my Tokusatsu fetish:

« on: Mar 05, 2009, 12:56 PM »
Hah Void Trading Cards.  I think that's an awesome idea.  Maybe there could be some backs for them, with minor stats and a short summary?  Like real trading cards?

Art Jams / Re: BATTLE HYPE JAM!!!!
« on: Mar 04, 2009, 08:20 PM »
Whoa, that's cool.  And I just noticed there was other void related stuff on Youtube.  Dammit now I'm distracted from my goals... curse my newly discovered Void fanboy-ness... Plus this is one of the most addictive songs I know...

Who knows?  Watchmen might surprise you?  I admit that I liked the V for Vendetta movie.  I love the comic but I really didn't have a problem with the movie.  I think that because it's a mainstream feature, it did well to that degree and people who did not read comics or knew the background, I felt, were able to get into it and understand it better because of that.  I admit that I hope for the same from Watchmen.  I understand Alan Moore's vehement hatred for the medium but it's the nature of the game.

On a totally random note: This movie is a classic, watch it!  I command you!

spit spat, time to chat / Re: THE GOOD OL PHOTO-THREAT.
« on: Mar 03, 2009, 07:18 PM »
Yeah my mom is somewhat like that.  She doesn't live with me but every time she steps into my room she's 'disappointed' in me.  You'd think my room was the den of evil.  My Stephen King books, the images on my walls, anything that can even suggest magic or violence is frowned upon.  And really, it's pretty bare, I'm not the decorative type.  This is the only decorative thing I have on my walls:

She hates those pictures too.  She hates the Spawn image and the dragon (which incidentally is an image from a Magic card).  And BTW I did not draw any of these.  Whenever a friend or someone close gives me artwork I stick it on my wall. 

spit spat, time to chat / Re: THE GOOD OL PHOTO-THREAT.
« on: Mar 03, 2009, 04:58 PM »
I miss playing Magic.  Granted I sucked terribly but I'm more of a collector and I have a pretty sizeable collection.  It's really amazing when you're in college, you find out that every guy has played it at least once in Middle School and they've got a deck hiding somewhere.  I don't know what the ratio for girls was, only ever played a girl in Magic once.

I guess I should then.   ;D All I know is that they made a recent videogame adaptation of it.

Heh it's just that I remembered too late that whenever I say Mononoke, people jump up and think Princess Mononoke.  An easy assumption to make.  That character actually made his debut in an experimental (style wise) anime called Ayakashi.  Each episode or two is a different story, characters style, etc.  I think it was the third one or fourth (can't remember) where the Medicine Seller first appears and defeats a Bakeneko (monster cat).  So I think he proved popular enough to have his own series.  I certainly hope they make another season in the future.

Art Jams / Re: Void Realism Jam
« on: Mar 02, 2009, 09:05 AM »
LOL whoa the resemble is uncanny.  That guy would make a good Nova in the live action Void movie.  But who is he?

I have the third toxic avenger movie.  I used to like Troma movies.  To be honest...I'm not sure why... (Sgt. KABUKIMAN!)
I had no idea that 20th century boys had a movie.  Guess I gotta do some searching...

Art Jams / Re: Void Realism Jam
« on: Feb 28, 2009, 02:36 PM »
When I saw this thread I was like...I have to do Nova!  Just because I already had a realistic image of Nova in my mind and I think he's awesome.  It's pencil and while I'm not proud of the hair... Here you go!

Just to be perfectly clear (I was at work and couldn't post any images):

I mean this Mononoke, not Princess Mononoke...although that's a great movie.  No doubt.  Just double checking.  I highly recommend it to those who haven't seen it.

You guys have wonderful taste.  I really loved Code Geass (I'm a huge mech fan anyways so it was expected) but I really got into the storyline.  My God I haven't obsessed over an anime like that since...Yakitate! Japan.  What?  Is that too far a leap of genres?  I'm enjoying Casshern Sins, the pacing is slow but I think that's fine, the action scenes I like as well. 

I just watched JCVD and I really enjoyed it, I recommend it.  And Taken.  Taken was sick.

Oh and one more thing, anyone seen an anime called Mononoke?  I'm in love with it.  I'm halfway through it.

GO FOR BROKE! / Re: ................
« on: Feb 27, 2009, 04:37 PM »
Wow impressive body of work.  Not only that but you have tons of details especially in your backgrounds.  When I grow up I want to be just like you  ;)

GO FOR BROKE! / Re: William_Duel's Crap(lots of it)
« on: Feb 27, 2009, 02:03 PM »
I have to admit, that example is very inspiring, thank you.

GO FOR BROKE! / Re: William_Duel's Crap(lots of it)
« on: Feb 27, 2009, 01:23 PM »
Well the sketchy lines are a product of the tablet.  It was my first time using the Wacom tablet and it was how I compensated for my inability to draw good lines on it, and while I feel I got a little better, yeah everyone's been saying how rough my lines are.  While I want to improve on the tablet and be able to draw at a natural level, I will make the effort in pencil and ink and see if that is better.  Since the lines have been called to my attention I'm starting to wonder...if perhaps the way I naturally draw lines is a problem in itself...>.>;

Your too much texture comment... I wonder if you are referring to my grays?  You see I took note of the fact while I was drawing that yes at times, even if its in pencil, my grays begin to blend together especially if I draw a full scene (background and all).  I wonder if perhaps, the solution is contrast?  Like you said about light source, I suppose that making a fixed light source will fix my problem?  Because I wasn't really sure how to fix it myself while I did it and played around with a few things. 

Backgrounds...yeah I was afraid of the idea of drawing them.  I was afraid that my inexperience with cityscape would really shine through (as if my general inexperience doesn't) so I copied what some manga did which works in black and white as well anyways (since they often use photography as backgrounds as well).  But no excuses, I will start to draw my own backgrounds.  But is it alright, to use some photography in some instances?

GO FOR BROKE! / Re: Wiggen's Random Heads
« on: Feb 26, 2009, 08:02 PM »
I like that its obvious that you have the basics down especially on many of those sketches.  I have to admit the guy up at the top somewhat reminds me of some sort of wolverine/joker hybrid, but your art is all good.  There's lots of different concepts here and it's nice to see the diversity.

GO FOR BROKE! / William_Duel's Crap(lots of it)
« on: Feb 26, 2009, 07:48 PM »
So I present to you my crap.  This is a comic I did for my photoshop class last semester.  It is also my first attempt at using the tablet.  I just want to point out a few things first.  Up until about page 7 or so, I used my sketches and traced over them and that's what the first seven pages are composed of.  Then I started to think that the process took too long, so I abandoned my pencil and began to draw solely on the tablet because it was faster.  The last five or so pages were done in one day (the day it was due) and the text was added rather hastily at the end (to me it's the worst part of it but it's not like I had fancy fonts to work with, it was school comp). 

I tested out various ideas and techniques, some things worked, some things came out rather crappily.  But it's nice in that it was my first completed comic.  There were other attempts and I present one of them towards the bottom.  The story isn't intended to make sense to anyone who reads it other than me, because it's actually a section far into my original story.  I just kind of wanted to see it for once.

Most of my stories revolve around this character.  I invented him in elementary school and he is my dearest character, despite consistent claims that I ripped off Vega from Street Fighter (I will never stop being annoyed when I hear that...I thought I was pretty original back in the day).  His unmasked self, well it can be said that the Void character I am submitting is essentially a female version of him.  I'm sort of testing the waters in a way.

Obviously photo use here...there is much photo use in this comic.

This one is rather interesting because the background is the silver that comes up from an unfixed photo.  I thought the texture was interesting so I scanned it.

This is the full image of what is in the background of page 6:

And this is the original pencil sketch.  This is actually a few years old but I always liked it and always wanted to do something with it:

Cutey Honey Fanart:

My two favorite Kamen Riders Fanart (old school meets new kinda thing):

Potential Future Voider?  Just a quick sketch so I could remind myself of the design.  There is supposed to be something on the left but again, just a quick crappy little sketch...:

If I am able to get Soldat accepted and become comfortable and familiar with Void and prove I am capable then this will be the second character I will attempt to push through.  Mr. Magician.  Yes he should have hands but this is an incomplete drawing.

And to top off, an older comic book attempt with the same character done during high school.  Just pencil and ink:

There are more pages somewhere but this is probably enough.  If this is too much tell me and I will erase a few entries.  So yeah, most of these, basically all of these except for the too done in pencil (one in ink) were done on my tablet. 

spit spat, time to chat / Re: Youtube Thread
« on: Feb 23, 2009, 05:51 PM »
That pencil thing was freaky and I have no idea why!!  I was jumping out of my seat while nothing was happening?!  Anyways something a little more lighthearted.  Goes well with the sentai tourney.

GO FOR BROKE! / Re: Dure's sketch dump
« on: Feb 23, 2009, 02:25 PM »
You are one of those artists who I wish I could stand there and look over your shoulder (as unnerving as it would be to you...).  I mean, screw those youtube speed paints (photoshop or not) because what is lacking there is the the actual process, the tools you use to create your works.  That's what would be most interesting to me because your work is just...great.  I have no better word for it.

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