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Community => News & Events => Topic started by: Cracking Skulls on Nov 18, 2012, 03:35 AM

Title: VCAST EPISODE 51 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Nov 18, 2012, 03:35 AM
Welcome to the Official VCAST Thread!

This is VOID's 5th incarnation of the podcast. Enjoy!
LATEST EPISODE: Episode 51 (http://entervoid.com/index.php?topic=12075.msg250537#msg250537)

The Current episodes will be listed above for easier listening. To save these audio files, right-click the link and select "Save As"

PAST EPISODES:

VC:SI Episode 1
Featuring: WilliamDuel, Mamoru, Tofubeast, Pineapple Pocky, Cracking Skulls (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E1.mp3)


VC:SI Episode 2
Featuring: William Duel, Tofubeast, A Bad Idea, Otakutaylor, Cracking Skulls, Animeshen (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E2.mp3)


VC:SI Episode 3
Featuring: Cracking Skulls, Majikura, Otakutaylor, CHARLIEMK5000BUTTPISSNUTBUTTER (aka, Charlie) (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcsi03-Rule%20of%20Thirds.mp3)


VC:SI Episode 4
Featuring: Pineapple Pocky, Kinuchio, Magistelle, Cracking Skulls (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcsi4-onion.mp3)


VC:SI Episode 5
Featuring: Cracking Skulls, Otakutaylor, Pocketm0use, Tofubeast, SUPERMAN'S ANAL CAVITY (aka. Charlie)  (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E5.mp3)

VC:SI Episode 6
Featuring: Cracking Skulls, William Duel, BoboJo, Julienya, Juli's assistant. (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E6.mp3)

VC:SI Episode 7
Featuring: A Bad Idea, Magistelle, Cracking Skulls (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E7.mp3)

VC:SI Episode 8
Featuring: William Duel, GPS-Device, Cracking Skulls
(http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E8.mp3)

VC:SI Episode 9
Featuring: DrasticFantastic, Kichi-Kat, William Duel, Cracking Skulls
(http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E9.mp3)

VC:SI Episode 10
Featuring: Otakutaylor, Tofubeast, Pocketmouse, Cracking Skulls
(http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E10.mp3)

VC:SI Episode 11
Featuring: Kura, MyHatsEatPeople, Cracking Skulls (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E11%20final.mp3)

VC:SI Episode 12
Featuring: Mamoru, Fel/P2, GPS-Device, Cracking Skulls (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E12%20vets%20and%20newcomers.mp3)

VC:SI Episode 13
Featuring: Faiface, SirThresher, Cracking Skulls (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E13.mp3)

VC:SI Episode 14
Featuring: Felle, Magistelle, Cracking Skulls (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E14.mp3)
Topics: Talking about the TTT Round 1, The origin of Void's theme song

VC:SI Episode 15
Featuring: Galvo, TINMAN, WilliamDuel, Cracking Skulls
(http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E15.mp3)
Topics: Interview Galvo, explore the incubator


VC:SI Episode 16
Featuring: A bad idea, Drasticfantastic, cracking skulls (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E16.mp3)
Topics: Style vs Form in comics, Old school voiders, exploring the incubator.

VC:SI Episode 17
Featuring: DrasticFantastic, Galvo, Cracking Skulls (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast%20e17.mp3)
Topics: The effects of Piracy, art confidence vs being a diva, the butterfly theory, plagiarism


EPISODE 18  Apr 01, 2013 (http://www.mediafire.com/download/7e1r6zjw1xekj5k/VCAST+E18.mp3)
joining me this week was Kura, Pocketmouse, and drasticfantastic who shows up a little later in.  We talk about the SDT choices for this year, careers and jobs relating to the skills of comics, and void merchandizing


EPISODE 19 Apr 27, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSIE19.mp3)
This episode's a little more calmer than usual, as I was just trying to get an episode done for this week. I SHOULD be back on track for next Friday, so stay tuned. (I was apparently too sleepy to catch my mistake on calling this episode 19 and is called '20' instead).

EPISODE 21  May 13, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E%2021.mp3)
Bent, Jets, Tox and I talk about the topics I already posted earlier this week. AND we got a new segment called "GET TO WORK, BOBO", where we have a special guest cheering our favorite Admin on. Who could it be? You gotta listen to find out!

EPISODE 22 May 20, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E22.mp3)
ABI and Nina are in to talk about whatever we talked about
Fanart! Sweet to do, but not to sell? What makes a Void Character stick as memorable on the site?
How to not make an Original Character.

EPISODE 23 May 26, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E23.mp3)
Joining me this week is Bechans, Galvo, and Underwood!
-Tournaments in void, do we have plenty of them, or not enough happening?
- Deadlines are scary as hell.
-Any tips or tricks to share when it comes to drawing complex shots in comics?

EPISODE 24  Jun 09, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E24.mp3)
This episode has Kura, Seevah and Tox talking about
 PPT is up! who're you cheering for?
What influences have you gained since you joined void? (on-site or off)
 Connecting your characters arcs with other artists characters to build a sense of community or fly solo

EPISODE 25—PART ONE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E25%20P1.mp3), PART 2 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E25%20P2.mp3)  Jun 17, 2013
PPT Round 1 is posted! Which comic did you enjoy the most?
-Whats the one comic/cartoon you think is the best example of top-notch quality art and why?
-How do you determine a story to write when battling on Void?

EPISODE 26  Jun 23, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E%2026.mp3)
Tox, Hats and LJS join in to talk about how much Hats hates melted cheese.

EPISODE 27  Jul 08, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E%2027.mp3)
Bobo, Qyz join in to talk about the topics listed earlier, with Gregly joining in fashionably late!
Onomatopoeias! (aka sound effects)
How important is it that someone improves their art skill to make comics in void?
Lot of us use digital these days to draw comics. How important is it to harness your traditional skills when it comes to drawing?

Episode 28  Jul 21, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E28.mp3)
This week joins Saburu, Magistelle, and Alternabase! hope you enjoy
Webcomic feature in void is back! Are you interested in starting your comic on void
or fly solo? why?
do you ever suffer from infinite possibility hesitation?
the world to do something, you can't seem to ever start doing anything?
-How much has working with deadlines in void helped you in the long run?

EPISODIEO 29 Aug 05, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E29.mp3)
This week we have ABI and Pocky
Learning the basics and principles are important in art. What kind of tips would you give to people to have a better grasp in these elements? (Proportions, anatomy, constructions, etc.)
-artbooks artbooks artbooks. You've probably seen some, or at least seen some concept art for a franchise or series. Which one's stood out for you and why?
-Story time returns! What's the funniest/weirdest/downright horrible story you have that relates to art?

EPISODE 30 Aug 19, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E30%20FINAL.mp3)
This week I got Pocky, Gregly and Tox to talk about the topics listed, and add a new segment for vcast's new milestone: Void Comic read-a-long, where we voice the comic battle of Somadis vs Mortido!
Art School. Some people take it, some don't. Do you think it's important for a growing artist to gain an education in the field?
-Suggestions for the site! Are there any changes, additions or removal to the features you'd like to make for void?

EPISODE 31 Sep 20, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast%20e31%20final.mp3)
 Magistelle and Kura
Have you ever battled/wanted to battle someone that you REALLY wanted to beat? (Thanks pyras!)
-What to do with defaults and incomplete comics: A discussion about the latest streak of incomplete comics and how to avoid them in the future.
-Pacing Problems: What to avoid when it comes to story telling and pacing in comics.

EPOSIDE 32 Oct 14, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E32%20FINAL.mp3)
Poky, Shen, Gregly, and Tox join in to talk about the stuff
Month of the Dead has begun and the dead walk among us! Who are you hoping to see battle again? Who was the most memorable to you before their untimely death?
what has Void done for you?

EPISODE 33 Nov 10, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E%2033%20FINAL.mp3)
Kozispoon, Wu AT AT and ABI
What do you hate and like most about your own art?
-what kind of traditional drawing tools do you use? Brand of pencils, type of equipment, types of paper
- What is the best/worst advice you've ever gotten?

EPISODE 34  Dec 18, 2013 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E34.mp3)
Slade, Sabu, and Sketchfighter joining me in talking about some topics I didn't even mention!
- Achievements and medals aside, what to you makes a void veteran?
- Do you remember being in the incubator?
- -What would be your favorite VOID battle match up and why?
-'What have you taken from a fellow void member?'

EPISODE 35 Jan 07, 2014 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%2035.mp3)
With me this week is Toxic, Endshark, Shen, and The Bent One, as we recap what's happened this year as well as talk about other silly stuff!

EPISODE 36 Apr 23, 2014 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E36.mp3)
-MASTER OF DISASTER was a success! Great effort all around. What was your favorite comic to read?
-We're critiquing your stuff too though! Be prepared for some pros and cons of your entries! (We'll critique other battles up as well)
-maybe some radio drama of said event.

EPISODE 37  May 27, 2014 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E37.mp3)
Pyras, toxic, and sabu join me in talking about whatever we talked about the last few weeks ago, I got a little held up this time due to ARMAGEDDON 2014
Armageddon! Shit hasn't happened in years, let's talk about it
-Upheaval is an ongoing unofficial event that has people making comics for! How hyped/not hyped are you for it? (I'm not biased I swear)
- It's also Free Comic Book Day on the day vcast is recording. Did anyone go out to get their free comics, and if so, what comic did you get?

EPISODE 38 Sep 05, 2014 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast38.mp3)
Me, shen and jiisuri catch up on what's been going on in void: Armaggeddon, Black and Blue, new characters, etc.

EPISODE 39 Sep 06, 2014 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast39f.mp3)
Surprise! Sabu, Kura, Mamoru and I bring you an up to date episode of the events in the site a day after the previous episode

 EPISODE 40 Dec 23, 2014 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast_e40_xmas.mp3)
Monday, Wuta, Gregly and I talk about Holiday plans for Void and Real Life and we recap the things that happened this year on the site.

EPISODE 41 Feb 16, 2015 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast_e41_kqov.mp3)
Wutata, Nina, and Pocky join in Episode 41 to discuss: King and Queen of VOID, Best of VOID 2014, and Suggestions towards site updates and features.


Episode 42 July 3, 2015 (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20EPISODE%2042.mp3)
Bobo, Sabu, Shen, and Tox join in discussing: The new website layout, K/QoV conclusion, and SRT.


Episode 43 Feburary 21, 2016 (http://entervoid.com/index.php?topic=12075.msg242733#msg242733)
GPS and Magistelle join to discuss: LSDT recap and other events


Episode 44 June 7, 2016 (http://entervoid.com/index.php?topic=12075.msg244461#msg244461)
Kozispoon, Mortooncian, Syraxis join to discuss: Heavyweight and Invitational tournament


Episode 45 January 10 2017 (http://entervoid.com/index.php?topic=12075.msg247387#msg247387)
Mortooncian, Magistelle, Swag, and Shen join to discuss: recap on 2016
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Neoriceisgood on Nov 18, 2012, 03:42 AM
I willl listen to this, and I will like it.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Nov 18, 2012, 04:13 AM
Also, Will links something to us around 29:16, this is the thing in question (http://www.batoto.net/read/_/139871/onepunch-man_ch7_by_boon-scanlation/6)
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Mister Kent on Nov 18, 2012, 04:21 PM
Great VC:SI! I'm very inspired to draw now (and kill my own children, if I had any...)

ALSO "extravagant amounts of coke"...
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Magistelle on Nov 18, 2012, 05:10 PM
This was preeetty sweet, though I had some weird technical problems where the recording would just randomly cut out after a bit if I switched tabs/didn't move my cursor.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Shen on Nov 18, 2012, 05:18 PM
I hope theres more of these because they are brilliant to draw to! XD fun podcast, thanks for posting it!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Nov 18, 2012, 05:42 PM
This was preeetty sweet, though I had some weird technical problems where the recording would just randomly cut out after a bit if I switched tabs/didn't move my cursor.

A note on the first post has been added. If anyone has problems listening to the episode, try downloading them.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Tofubeast on Nov 18, 2012, 07:28 PM
OH GOD MY VOICE IS SO WEIRD

Glad y'all like it, guys!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Pennydox on Nov 18, 2012, 08:08 PM
naw your voice was very seductive. I sounded so nervous and I sounded more like a little boy than usual >.>
also, all that click clack was my intense finger typing. I love banging the keyboard.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Charlie on Nov 18, 2012, 08:40 PM
Gonna start listening to this :O.

Also I totally want in on one eventually once things slow down here for me!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Shen on Nov 18, 2012, 11:29 PM
someday I hope someone gets me on a voidcast lol so everyone can hear how strong my minnesota accent is
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Rah on Nov 19, 2012, 09:01 AM
ah, this was so good to listen and draw to. I've always avoided listening to podcasts but I think I might listen to more of these ones in future :D really motivating and great to hear you welcoming newbies too xD
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Video320 on Nov 19, 2012, 10:05 PM
Your voices, I like 'em. I look forward to more of your mouth sounds.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Bobo on Nov 22, 2012, 11:44 AM
You know what! You guys should keep doing this stuff so I can keep listening to my VOID friends even when RoflQu is busy! :D
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Nov 25, 2012, 07:29 PM
VC:SI Episode 2 is here! (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E2.mp3)

This week, we have two returning guests, Will and Tofu, with A Bad Idea, Otakutaylor, and Animeshen joining in!

Be warned, though. Unlike last episode, this is 2 hours long! we cover some battles that need critiquing and explore the incubator!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: DragonHeart on Nov 25, 2012, 09:19 PM
Just listening to the 1st Podcast. Really interesting discussion about harshness in criticism. I think Void needs more criticism, people aren't harsh enough. Honestly, being at Art School and being in contact with Industry Professionals, it is hard, but you really don't get very many compliments and all discussion is geared towards improving your practice.
The more and more people are surrounded by great art, the less impressed they are with stuff that is actually quite standard. My teachers and the professionals who come in and see our stuff are completely unphased by our work even if we'd spent weeks on it, as if it were just a piece of bread or a window. We have to really push ourselves to get remotely noticed.
Its really fucking hard, but if you can push through it and stay determined I'm sure it will be worth it.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: Shen on Nov 25, 2012, 10:38 PM
gosh I had like nothing to contribute that episode XD sorry for being so quiet! I had a lot of fun though! And I drew two more comic pages while listening! (since the recording though I've only inked one more page of Lilyfeather- but bit by bit shes getting done!)
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: Rah on Nov 25, 2012, 10:44 PM
This motivated me to draw my last comic page that I was feeling too drained to even start. But I did the whole thing in the time it took me to listen to this! Such a great motivational tool. Thank you! It's so great to hear people's encouragement and critique and just generally be so awesome. Also, all your comments on Scrumpy and his intro just blew me away like seriously I am so flattered thank you so much.

Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: Sabulive on Nov 26, 2012, 05:05 AM
Animeshen is the most excitable person wow.

GO ENTHUSIASM
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: Shen on Nov 26, 2012, 04:16 PM
Animeshen is the most excitable person wow.

GO ENTHUSIASM

XD I was just so excited! LOL!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: Mister Kent on Nov 28, 2012, 01:15 PM
Thanks for the reviews and crits, everyone! I'll work on line-widths and such, and gesturing. Animeshen I LOVE your voice :D Though you all have very lovely voices in general :)
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: Kinu on Nov 29, 2012, 01:09 AM
It was really good to hear you all again. When's the next one coming out??
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: Gregly on Nov 29, 2012, 01:35 AM
So good to listen to while drawing! And you guys said such nice things about me, especially ABI, thanks!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Nov 30, 2012, 04:01 PM
I only just got to listening to the second 'cast oh my god Animeshen. You sound ADORABLE. <3
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: Shen on Nov 30, 2012, 06:30 PM
lol thanks guys! I'm blushing!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: Atomicfish on Nov 30, 2012, 07:10 PM
Loved the cast ya'll. I was listening while cleaning my room, you give some great tips and ideas. You all sound sexy. ;P
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 2 is up!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 02, 2012, 08:57 PM
Guess what nerds?

VC:SI Episode 3 is here (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcsi03-Rule%20of%20Thirds.mp3)

This week we got Otakutaylor returning, with two new guests, Kura and Charlie!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Charlie on Dec 02, 2012, 10:55 PM
PENIS
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 02, 2012, 11:46 PM
Charlie, not in public.


HEY EVERYONE, ever wanted to throw some questions and topic suggestions into VC:SI?

Well you totally can


Post some suggestions to talk about, or questions you'd like to ask any of the participants of the cast, We'll talk about/answer them in future episodes!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Sabulive on Dec 03, 2012, 12:03 AM
I think this was one of the better casts than the last two because it was short, offered crits on the battles of the week and I liked how you guys talked about the Manga STudio software.

I definitely wouldn't mind that sort of formula where you talk about the battles, talked about potential software plus something that can change in every podcase idk. I enjoyed listening to crits even if they weren't being applied to me and if future participants talked about other products that could help artists out.

The only thing that annoyed me was the background music, I personally would prefer it if you just talked.

Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Kinu on Dec 03, 2012, 01:08 AM
Oh, Charlie. Your voice~ *swoons*

Also, you guys should totally get into the thought processes on how artists begin work on a comic. Your methods, other artist's methods, etc. Do you start with a script, or do you jump right in? Stuff like that, yo.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Charlie on Dec 03, 2012, 10:19 AM
I thought the editing was wicked, mainly because it makes me seem like I am able to stay on topic more than I actually am able to haha. The intro + the very very end after the VOID song are good indicators at just how easy it is to get me going on something completely unrelated/inappropriate haha

ALSO. ~~~OH KINU YOU MAKE MY FACE RED WITH REDNESS~~
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Angie on Dec 03, 2012, 03:28 PM
Thanks for the crits guys! My secret to not killing my hands is by wearing a wrist brace when I go to sleep. I would highly recommend anyone that uses their hands a lot do that.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: TINMAN on Dec 03, 2012, 04:37 PM
Sleeping wrist brace is a must.

These are brilliant, I'm so glad you picked up the mantle and carried on with the Voidcast after all this time. It has such a way of lending a gravitas to the comics when you hear people discussing them as a shared community event when so few comments are posted. Everyone loves to be hawt gawsip fodder right? Charlie brah, thanks for punching things up and keeping it lively, technobeats help. Also Animeshen sounds adorbs.

I picked up Manga Studio myself and while I'm unfamiliar with digital processes I couldn't pass up the opportunity to learn but doing layers and such has been rather a pain. Should be more self explanitory.Critique should be constructive criticisms- we're all friends here. Just offer a challenge at the end as to what they can do to improve rather than simply being a naysayer. What succeeds and what needs improving. This is a longer conversation but one worth having.

I think a return to reviewing films and other comics books would be ideal just because influences are essential in getting to know the reviewers tastes as well as getting to know you as people and creators outside of your comics.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Bobo on Dec 04, 2012, 05:34 PM
Finally got around to listening to episode 2. You guys made me blush. :)
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: (Pi) on Dec 04, 2012, 10:12 PM
Thanks for the crits guys! My secret to not killing my hands is by wearing a wrist brace when I go to sleep. I would highly recommend anyone that uses their hands a lot do that.

holy shit, i never thought of that, totally starting that tonight. i've already been feeling carpal tunnel-y lately, hopefully i'm not too late to save my hands.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: The Bent One on Dec 05, 2012, 07:27 AM
I know I'm going to need that soon. I'm at the computer a lot as well doing design work, and the constant use of the mouse really wears the wrist down.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: neens on Dec 06, 2012, 04:59 PM
juust got caught up with this. I've really been trying to crit stuff, and usually my first draft is super harsh and then I ask around "hey does this sound mean" and it gets toned down, haha. like.. I really wish I had the stones to say "this is pretty bad" sometimes but alas! also, since I've started my recent critiquing I've gotten one person that was kinda pouty about it and also excuses. like, I dunno, don't try and explain it to me man. that's not gonna make it better, you know?

I was also one of the people that got the manga studio sale. I've only used it a handful of times so far, but it's not bad. the pen is great when you learn how to mess with it, because I did not like the way it tapered dramatically. the tones are pretty handy to use, and the bitmappy lines are great. I'm one of those people that uses photoshop for everything (can't use SAI) and honestly, I dunno if ms can tear me away completely. it's not hard to get a good line out of ps if you try! still a nice program, got a lot to learn on it. thankfully there's a ton of tutorials out there for it.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Bobo on Dec 09, 2012, 07:58 AM
MOAR. I NEED MOAR. I want to put your sexy voices in my ears and let your sound waves reverberate down my auditory canal and bounce off the walls of my cochlea. I want to feel the electric impulses run up my vestibulocochlear nerve and make my brain tingle and shiver with joy.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Mister Kent on Dec 09, 2012, 03:43 PM
TAKE COLD SHOWER NOW BOBO

;)
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Kinu on Dec 09, 2012, 04:06 PM
I guess Bobo wants....an... AUDIO  Erotica.

Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Kozispoon on Dec 09, 2012, 05:32 PM
Downloading the episodes now to listen to while I work on comic pages. Great way to spend a Sunday :D
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Bobo on Dec 09, 2012, 06:10 PM
I just can't help myself. I lust for VOID Cast.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 09, 2012, 09:11 PM
EPISODE 4 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcsi4-onion.mp3)

Pocky returns to the cast broadcasting from space, and Magi and Kinu joins in!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 3 is here!
Post by: Shen on Dec 09, 2012, 09:26 PM
oh snap I haven't even gotten to 3, looks like I'm gonna have a marathon tomorrow while I animate
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4 uploaded!
Post by: Kozispoon on Dec 09, 2012, 10:08 PM
I JUST started episode 2 while I color @_@ So much to listen to.
Also, Animeshen your voice is so cute ad nerdy ahmahgawd
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4 uploaded!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 09, 2012, 11:15 PM
Thanks for reminding me, Taylor! There was a few things mentioned in this episode that I gotta link. In ORDER:

http://entervoid.com/index.php?topic=11021.0 Jho's thread from 09

http://jackieloart.com/blog/spoiler-my-work-progress/ Pocky's art process

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7hxotMfjF1qe3ksto1_500.gif motivation .gif kinu found
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4 uploaded!
Post by: Sabulive on Dec 09, 2012, 11:56 PM
Oh god. Panel 2 was supposed to have a soundeffect and I totally forgot D: SORRY KINU
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4 uploaded!
Post by: Mister Kent on Dec 10, 2012, 10:38 AM
Yes! More sounds to draw to! :D
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4 uploaded!
Post by: Shen on Dec 10, 2012, 06:01 PM
uahh, I'm all out of Voidcasts, how am I supposed to finish my homework now? =P another great one, fun to hear all the guest speakers! I wish I'd been in on this one- I actually have used mangastudio extensively before- pretty much all of my Candyland comic (when I still worked on that) was done in that program. I haven't opened this new version yet to see if theres any difference to the ones that I've used, except to make sure that in installed correctly, but later on I think I'll have to have a battle I do in mangastudio just to play with it some more.
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Post by: Bobo on Dec 11, 2012, 08:41 AM
I wish you were in on it, too, shen! You're so fun to listen to.

Speaking of which, how do you get in on these? Is it just like the coolest people only, or does CrackingSkulls just randomly call up whoever's on Skype because she's too lazy to plan ahead? :P
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Post by: Bobo on Dec 11, 2012, 10:09 AM
Photoshop auto-tone is pretty much all I used to get the colors to look brighter. I do use levels sometimes, but I wanted to keep the natural look of the blacks for this one, even though it did look a little more purple than just black.

And yeah, I'll be working on perspective for sure. I did page 5 last and was running behind, so hopefully that won't be a problem in the future.

Thanks for the crits, guys! I feel so special when I hear my name flowing from between your lips.
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Post by: Bobo on Dec 11, 2012, 10:48 AM
PS--My favorite part is the twenty minutes of silence at the end.
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Post by: Charlie on Dec 11, 2012, 11:30 AM
Speaking of which, how do you get in on these? Is it just like the coolest people only, or does CrackingSkulls just randomly call up whoever's on Skype because she's too lazy to plan ahead? :P

She usually asks around the time the next cast is wrapping up, from what I am noticing. I was asked close to a week in advance if I wanted to be on it but originally couldn't...but things worked out that when someone else couldn't make it, I was able to, so I ended up getting in last minute haha. Generally though its a bit of notice and I think its easier to get on if you chill around the VOIDchat too.

Just my observations though!
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Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 12, 2012, 03:05 AM
Charlie is correct! I try to give everyone appearing equal turns (almost everyone's appeared twice so far), and I ask a few selected people in the chatroom if they have time in their schedule to do a recording. (time zones are tricky to plan out right!)

On another related note, The holidays are coming, so for these next few weeks, I'm setting up:

VC:SI BEST OF VOID 2012

To count down the inevitable end of the world, we'll be gathering up some of the best comics (and Voiders!) that have stood out in entervoid this year!

Got a comic/voider to nominate? post them here, and give your reasons! Remember, they've got to be comics that have appeared this year, so get going!

Nomination categories for comics are:

Best Comic in Comedy
Best Comic in Action
Best Comic in Character Development
Best Traditional Comic
Best Digital Comic
*Best Mixed Media Comic

Best Artist Match (edit: scratched off since not enough matches were made this year)
Best Beyond Battle
Best Versus Battle


Most Outstanding Newcomer
Most Outstanding Voider of 2012
Most Improved Voider
Most Helpful Voider in Critiques

 ?*Best New Character (the best precious newborn fighters of 2012!)
 ?*Character of the Year (one who had lots of cool entertaining moments)
 ?*Best Returning Character (an older character that was inactive for a while)
 
(*New categories added)
 (? Considering adding in)
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Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Dec 12, 2012, 07:55 AM
How do we nominate??? Do we send you a message on Void or what?
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Post by: Bobo on Dec 12, 2012, 08:39 AM
I nominate Hats for everything.
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Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Dec 12, 2012, 09:40 AM

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/312/563/05d.jpg)
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4 uploaded!
Post by: Charlie on Dec 12, 2012, 01:26 PM
Can we have an award for best person who did absolutely nothing at all really this year ?

Because then I might win! WOO.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4 uploaded!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 12, 2012, 05:11 PM
How do we nominate??? Do we send you a message on Void or what?

Just post them on this thread, or if you wish to be anonymous for some reason, you can PM me your nominations.

Can we have an award for best person who did absolutely nothing at all really this year ?

Because then I might win! WOO.

SIR YOU HAVE ALREADY WON.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/Kira13/tenso.gif)
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Post by: Charlie on Dec 12, 2012, 06:09 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6852974848/h6F2934F3/)
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Post by: Bobo on Dec 12, 2012, 06:47 PM
WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON THERE
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Post by: Angie on Dec 12, 2012, 06:52 PM
I'll be a shoe in for the "Voider that went pro but stuck around on Void" award.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Shen on Dec 12, 2012, 06:55 PM
I nominate everybody for everything!! Ahh how can I choose between you all when I love everyone so much?!'

edit like two hours later
may I throw in a suggestion? I know theres a lot of catagories already but I wanted to toss is "best versus" or something like that, for a battle where two Voiders went all out and both had remarkable entries. That would require two winners though...
just thought I'd throw that one in there since I can think of some good contenders.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 12, 2012, 09:37 PM
Added to the list!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: (Pi) on Dec 12, 2012, 10:10 PM
have we started formally nominating people yet?

i officially nominate OTAKUTAYLOR for Most Outstanding Newcomer, first for finally getting off his ass and getting Tsumi into Void, and then doing tons of awesome work after the Invitational was over.
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Post by: Mamoru on Dec 13, 2012, 01:44 AM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6852974848/h6F2934F3/)

OH GAWD SYNJEH!! THERE YOU ARE!!!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Majikura on Dec 13, 2012, 02:49 AM
My picks:

Best Comic in Comedy: Himie vs Baghead (Hiemie side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4157&side=1&iid=01
Best Comic in Action: Mammon vs Jimmy Boom (JB side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4195&side=2&iid=1
Best Comic in Character Development: Udesuline vs Gray (Gray side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4334&side=2&iid=01
Best Traditional Comic Invitational finals (Toro Joe side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4215&side=3&iid=01
Best Digital Comic: ---undecided

Best Artist Match TK vs Jho (Jho side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4007&side=2&iid=1
Best Beyond Battle Whiplash (Wizzie Belles and Mammon) http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic%3bid=4325
Best Versus Battle ---undecided


Most Outstanding Newcomer - Magistelle
Most Outstanding Voider of 2012 - Mister Kent
Most Improved Voider - GPS Device
Most Helpful Voider in Critiques - CrackingSkulls
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Shen on Dec 13, 2012, 03:10 AM
I PMed mine lol I'm shy
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 4/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Kinu on Dec 14, 2012, 05:00 PM
Best Comic in Comedy - Mortido vs Jessie Valley (Mortido's side)
Reference (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4302&side=1&iid=1)
Best Comic in Action - Jimmy Boom vs Toro Joe vs Morrow Stone (Tinman's Side) Reference (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4215&side=3&iid=1)
Best Comic in Character Development - Merrick vs Mortido (Jaz's side)
Reference (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4346&side=1&iid=1)
Best Traditional Comic - Mr. Creamy vs. Phillips Household (Hiemie's Side)
Reference (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4204&side=1&iid=1)
Best Digital Comic - Jessie Valley vs Ponch Pomperelli (Qyz's Side)
Reference (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4140&side=2&iid=1)
Best Mixed Media Comic - Well, Moreso Animeshen in general, but I'll link to her more recent battle. I know she combines both methods.
Reference (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4416&side=2&iid=1)

Best Beyond Battle - Mags' and Hats' Whiplash comic, obviously.
Reference (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4325&side=1&iid=1)

Honorable Mention - Angieness (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1205) The only reason I didn't just PICK Angie is because she only does Beyond Battles. It would be unfair :'D But they're all gorgeous and amazing and I love Angie's work a lot.

Best Versus Match - Magistelle VS TKDZen (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic%3bid=4415) They both brought their A-game. It was cray cray. I'm close friends with TK, and I saw him work on the comic. It was pretty thrilling.

Most Outstanding Newcomer - Me! Or if that's too conceited of an answer, I nominate Bloochikin (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=13989) Bloo has got some mad skills. There are peeps here on VOID that I wanna battle, and then there are people on VOID that I wanna battle even though my defeat is inevitable. Bloo's on that list. ^_^;

Honorable Mention - Magistelle (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=13998) Omg, this girl continues to impress me with each comic she makes. So much talent, and at such a young age. Compared to an old fart like me, she's breezing through the skill barrier at a ridiculous speed.

Most Outstanding Voider of 2012 - Mister Kent (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2183). I admire that dude's drive. Guy is always doing comics. Always submits. He's doing what I wanna do, and for that, he's my hero.

Most Improved Voider - MyHatsEatPeople (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6603). Her style has changed. It's kinda cool. Just check out her archives. Even if you don't, just know that Hats is on professional level now.

Honorable Mention - Julienya (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile%3bu=13997) Julz has gotten better with her comic making skills. She has done nothing but improve since the invitational. Plus, her comedy skills are unmatched. Go read her stuff and you can tell. Her wacky comedy has always been there, but there's a significant increase in her pacing, composition, and overall storytelling skills.

Most Helpful Voider in Critiques - Kozispoon (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile%3bu=1262) Kozi is getting back into Void! But that hasn't stopped her from lending some helpful advice to fellow Voiders. It makes us await her return even more.

Best New Character - Nyasuu (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=character%3bid=2004) The coolest cat I know, now. Could've been Catsuit if he didn't disintegrate into thin air.

Character of the Year - Wizzie Bells (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=character%3bid=1918) It's been a good year for the spunky wiz kid. Everybody loves her. Everybody who is COOL, anyway.

Best Returning Character - Veronica Nightingale (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=character%3bid=354) She has been active as of late. I love that she pretty much runs everything. Powerful character, she is.
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Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 14, 2012, 07:29 PM
I'll gather up nominations around the 23rd, and I'll announce them on the last episode of the year (30th).
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 16, 2012, 08:05 PM
VC:SI Episode 5 is here (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E5.mp3)

No intro/outro yet! But for now, enjoy the episode!
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Post by: Tofubeast on Dec 17, 2012, 12:22 PM
Here's what I was talking about with utilizing photos in your comics and making them work:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/Tomeidosauce/nana_intro.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/Tomeidosauce/tumblr_mcnudwPZNe1qcd0jyo1_500.jpg)

Ai Yazawa tends to use a lot of altered photographs she took for backgrounds, but she makes it fit with her style.
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Post by: Kozispoon on Dec 17, 2012, 03:20 PM
Getting my listen on after lunch. :D TANGENTS
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Post by: Angie on Dec 17, 2012, 06:07 PM
I still hate how Ai Yazawa and other mangaka use photo backgrounds! I love everything she does but I always cringed when I saw that in her manga.
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Post by: Kinu on Dec 17, 2012, 08:16 PM
My reaction when you guys started talking about me

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lva85oiRLy1qfkc84.gif)

You guys made my heart grow 5 times bigger. I luv ya's
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Post by: Pennydox on Dec 17, 2012, 10:44 PM
skull--I guess you have no idea how much photos are used in all sorts of art (comic art is no exception) ^_^''

Yes, I use it too, cept I take my own photos for stuff like that.

Here's a creative way to use photos:

I took this image:(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/352/b/1/007_by_pineapple_pocky-d5oh0cz.jpg)

and made it to this (it's a background image for an irrelevant void comic I'm working on):
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/351/3/2/dead_san_francisco_by_pineapple_pocky-d5ocuir.jpg)

Yes I used the photo straight out. And yes, I used mixed media of whiteout and ink to do all the lines and shadows on it. The only 'photoshopped' part is actually the gradient/grey tones and the texture on the entire piece, and adjusting the levels after scanning. Can you guess what I did?

Just got to be creative in a way where you can make your own unique art out of photos. And seriously make it so you can't even tell you used one. I mean, textures are often photo overlays, and a very common texture I've seen used are photographs of leaves, believe it or not.
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Post by: Bobo on Dec 18, 2012, 12:01 PM
ok pocky that is awesome
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Post by: Mister Kent on Dec 18, 2012, 12:13 PM
Very stylish pocky ;D
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Post by: Bobo on Dec 18, 2012, 02:00 PM
PS--pomo has the cutest voice ever. Although I think that about every new person I hear on VoidCast (Kinu, I'm looking at you).
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Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 19, 2012, 01:35 AM
I'll be posting what nominations I have listed/were sent to me soon.

I'm also thinking of adding  two more categories:

Best One-Shot (edit: only one was made this year, not enough to make a category)
Best Mixed Media Comic

if you guys have any nominations you wanna throw at me, now's the time. gonna be gathering them all up on the 23rd and announce the winners/honorable mentions on the 30th
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Post by: Bobo on Dec 19, 2012, 04:55 PM
Best Comic in Comedy: Definitely Cat Suit in Cat Suit vs. Amelia and Lucas (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic%3bid=4102)
Best Comic in Action: Satin in Satin vs. Gregory Howling (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic%3bid=4311)
Best Comic in Character Development: Gray in Jules Saphir vs. Gray (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic%3bid=4416)
Best Traditional Comic: (or mixed media maybe?) Merrik Sandersen in Jules Saphir vs. Merrik Sanderson (http://entervoid.com/comic/4296)
Best Digital Comic: um

Best Artist Match: I dunno; I pretty much never read these...
Best Beyond Battle: Wizzie Belles and Mammon in Whiplash (http://entervoid.com/comic/4325)
Best Versus Battle: Jimmy Boom vs. Morrow Stone vs. Toro Joe (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic%3bid=4215) (even though Morrow Stone's comic was NOTHING)


Most Outstanding Newcomer: BecHahns (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1832)
Most Outstanding Voider of 2012: Mister Kent (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2183)
Most Improved Voider: MyHatsEatPeople (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6603)
Most Helpful Voider in Critiques: will edit this later I think
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Post by: A Bad Idea on Dec 19, 2012, 05:07 PM
Best Comic in Comedy
Veronica Nightingale vs Merrick (Veronica Side) (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4316&side=2&iid=1) - Yup, she found'em.

Best Comic in Action
Jimmy Boom vs Mammon (Jimmy Boom Side) (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4195&side=2&iid=1) - You can always count on Kinuchio to deliver thrilling comic book action.

Best Comic in Character Development
Gray vs Udeseline (Gray Side) (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4334&side=2&iid=01) - Gray is such a dynamic and emotional character. The ending of this comic really set a new and exciting tone for Gray.

Best Traditional Comic
Invitationals 2012 Finals (Toro Joe Side) (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4215&side=3&iid=01) - Tinman's inks are just superb.

Best Digital Comic
JRPG Heroes vs Leo Johnson (JRPG Heroes Side) (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4230&side=1&iid=01) - This comic is a treat for just about anyone.

Best Artist Match
Undecided

Best Beyond Battle
Mammon and Wizzie Belles: Whiplash (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4325&side=1&iid=1) - Great action, solid storytelling and nice, juicy character development for both fighters involved. Good show, you two.

Best Versus Battle
Wonderland vs Iri (Iri Side) (http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4177&side=2&iid=1) - Solid storytelling, gripping narrative, and a fantastic taste of noir; it's no question that Jho is among my favorite artists on Void.

Most Outstanding Newcomer
Animeshen: I am never unexcited to see a new comic from Shen.

Most Outstanding Voider of 2012
Mister Kent: What a machine.

Most Improved Voider
Magistelle: Magistelle ups her game with every single entry, and doesn't show any signs of stopping!

Most Helpful Voider in Critiques
CrackingSkulls: Not only does she leave constructive comments and actively helps other members in the Chat, she also put together the recent run of Voidcast: Sitting In podcasts, which brings the community together to be constructive as a whole.
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Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Dec 19, 2012, 05:55 PM
For everyone who's mentioned myself, I LOVE ALL OF YOU.

Okay gotta get my act together and write up my list tomorrow.
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Post by: William_Duel on Dec 19, 2012, 06:01 PM
I reread this year in comics and some of these are hard to choose.  Mind if I be a bit wishy washy here and there?

Best Comic in Comedy
Catsuit vs Amelia and Lucas (ShouldaCouldaCola side)
Runner up: Andy Heller vs Doctor Fabulous (Roflqu side)

Best Comic in Action
Jimmy Boom vs Mammon (Kinuchio side)

Best Comic in Character Development
It's hard to point out a single comic but rather an arc when it comes to character development.  Jaz's entry Merrick for Wacky Races was my favorite overall arc.  Though the final comic in that series is perhaps the best.  And as Runner up Animeshen's Gray has had a pretty interesting story.

Best Traditional Comic
Invitationals 2012 Finals (Tinman)- Tinman has such a unique style and such strong traditional lines.

Best Digital Comic
Lt. Angus Blackader vs. GraveKeeper (Underwoodwriter)
or
Roy vs Lt. Angus Blackader (Underwoodwriter)
Runner up:
Florence Ailey vs Cue (Majikura)

Best Artist Match
The One Dark Knight's Six Inches Comic

Best Beyond Battle
Does Scrumpy's Intro Story count?  I'm not sure what the ruling would be on Intro Stories but it deserves special mention.

Wizzie Belles in Bombshell

Best Versus Battle
Wonderland vs Iri

Most Outstanding Newcomer
Kinuchio
Runnerup: Otakutaylor

Most Outstanding Voider of 2012
Mister Kent

Most Improved Voider
Magistelle

Most Helpful Voider in Critiques
CrackingSkulls
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Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 19, 2012, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the nominations so far!

I totally understand if anyone has any confusions as to whats accepted as a nomination in each category. The Best BB section accepts any comic that was submitted as a BB (for a character or just an artist BB)

And if anyone wants to post any nominations for Mixed Media category, that's fine too. I'm adding it to the categories, since there are great comics that used both digital and traditional tools this year.

if anyone else has questions, please lemme know!
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Post by: Mister Kent on Dec 20, 2012, 05:49 PM
I'll have my noms to you soon CrackingSkulls. What about some character oriented categories?

Best New Character (the best precious newborn fighters of 2012!)
Character of the Year (one who had lots of cool entertaining moments)
Best Returning Character? (an older character that was inactive for a while?)
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 20, 2012, 07:12 PM
I've actually thought of having a Best new character category, and the other categories are pretty cool suggestions too! If anyone's okay with new categories being added in, I'll be putting them on the list.

Another thing I wanna announce is that looking back at the archives this year, and due to some confusion, I'm going to have to scratch off Best Artist Match category. Sorry about that everyone, but hopefully next year it'll work out better!

For now, I'm gonna be posting what we got as nominations so far!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uuq8xdIGQOWcJwNrgntBkY9FSW6i0tMzVN2PIkbuUSU/edit


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Post by: Evi on Dec 20, 2012, 09:54 PM
Ahahaha I love how you guys just went off topic shortly after Capslock.

Caps actually did play a fair amount (I guess the robot equivalent) of football before joining the military, so I'm glad you got that vibe from him!
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Post by: Bobo on Dec 21, 2012, 08:22 AM
I'll have my noms to you soon CrackingSkulls. What about some character oriented categories?

Best New Character (the best precious newborn fighters of 2012!)
Character of the Year (one who had lots of cool entertaining moments)
Best Returning Character? (an older character that was inactive for a while?)

Um... you're just trying to make more categories for yourself, aren't you? :)
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Mister Kent on Dec 21, 2012, 03:03 PM
SSSHHHHSHHHHBOBO
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Mister Kent on Dec 22, 2012, 07:59 PM
Just realized--there were only 3 Artist Matches this year. I was in 2 of them. That's kinda awkwaaarrd :/
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 22, 2012, 08:09 PM
Hahaha yeah, I only realized this a few days ago, and had to remove the category due to not enough artist matches. hopefully if we do this again for 2013, we'll have more!

Also just a heads up, I made the decision to make Best of Void a community vote, so when nominations are gathered up, I'll put up a poll for each category ASAP.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Pennydox on Dec 23, 2012, 01:45 AM
I'm wondering if you're starting to run low on ideas. I have a few that either weren't talked heavily on, or the idea brisked away, or just things I've kinda wondered myself. Here is list (also I haven't listened to most recent VCSI so forgive me if i repeated something):

-sleep with work vs. going to sleep/taking break to work
-digital vs traditional: pros and cons
-keeping healthy (health tips, diets, and things you should avoid when you're drawing)
-funny moments/sad moments/crazy moments, spoken by the artist (got this idea sorta from those NPR thingies with Ira Glass)
-drawing materials: tips and tricks
-cost vs. quality--recommended alternatives to expensive issues, or to avoid buying more of something constantly
-reference images
-using computer programs: what makes them useful, pros, and cons
-Commissions: how you price them, how much, why, and when?
-convention: tips, tricks, stories, recommendations, etc.
-printing images: books, prints, and other things. Recommended online companies, what exactly is the information about paper thickness, uv coating, etc.
-comic composition: reading left to right, drawing tips, word bubbles, etc. How exactly does this all fit in on a comic?
-maybe at the end or beginning of the VCSI, you can name a 'word' for people to look up information and learn about it. Sort of like "and today's word is 'Gamut'! G-A-M-U-T! Have fun researching!" and then the next episode you can have a quick explanation of what the art term was.
-light sources on an image--how can you relate a 360 environment with a consistent lighting? do you care? do they care?
-using photos for art
-tracing artwork
-what is an art thief (you can include real ppls stories and stuff here)
-popular art tools you use (other than the computer)--preferred brands, brands you don't recommend, etc.
-drawing something realistic vs. drawing something entirely made up in your head
-drawing things that aren't human (monsters, animals, etc.)

this is all that is coming in my head right now, but hope it helps.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Ten Dead Kings on Dec 23, 2012, 01:54 AM

A discussion on the level of detail (worldbuilding, background, accurate engine performance specs, proper coffee-brewing, etc) put into the works should be interesting.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Angie on Dec 23, 2012, 07:57 AM
"-sleep with work vs. going to sleep/taking break to work"

I'm pretty much an expert on this and work schedules now haha
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Dec 23, 2012, 09:48 AM
I'M TERRIBLE AND CAN NEVER JUST PICK ONE BUT. UGH. I'm going to do runners-up on some of these coz I'm like that.

Best Comic in Comedy:
Winner: Catsuit vs Amelia and Lucas (ShouldaCouldaCola side)
Runner up: Hiemie vs Baghead (Hiemie's side)

Best Comic in Action:
Winner: Jimmy Boom vs Mammon (Kinu's side)

Best Comic in Character Development:
Winner: Cue vs Everose Lovehaven (Kura's side)
Runner up: Udesuline vs Gray (Shen's side)

Best Traditional Comic:
Winner: 2012 INVITATIONAL FINALS (TINMAN's side)

Best Digital Comic:
Undecided

Best Mixed Media Comic:
Winner: Roy vs Lt. Angus Blackader (Bl00chikin's side)

Best Beyond Battle:
Winner: There is no Charlotte Gray by Animeshen

Best Versus Battle:
Undecided


Most Outstanding Newcomer:
Winner: Kinu! (You've been an absolute PLEASURE to know in this community, you're a super nice guy and a super awesome artist!)

Outstanding Voider of 2012
Winner: MisterKent (You sir, are a machine when it comes to story telling and comics!)

Most Improved Voider:
Winner: Magistelle (YOU ARE NOT HUMAN JEEZUS)

Most Helpful Voider in Critiques:
Winner: SirThresher!

Best New Character:
Winner: Roy by Bl00chikin (COZ LETS FACE IT I'M BIASED HERE)
Runner up: Scrumpy by Bechahns (He hasn't been in the city long at all but DAMN COME HERE AND LET ME LOVE YOU)

Obviously I have a thing for British men here.

Character of the Year:
Winner: Mammon by Magistelle!
Runner up: Jimmy Boom by Kinu

This was a toughy because I love these two badass boys very much! But Mammon got the upperhand because he's been active since the tournament in the Spring and his character development is damn amazing (and entertaining!).

Best Returning Character:
Winner: Xia by CrackingSkulls (She'd been inactive for a while BUT I LURV THE XI-MIESTER I'm glad she's back)
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Hiemie on Dec 23, 2012, 12:28 PM
Can I nominate Mimi the Mime's new BB as best Beyond Battle?
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 5/Best of Void 2012 begins!
Post by: Mister Kent on Dec 23, 2012, 04:50 PM
So many awesome comics in 2012! Hard to choose...

THE BEST
COMEDY:

(1) Toro Joe v. Roy (Roy's side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4193&side=2&iid=1
(2) 4th Wall (Zest/Hats) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4224&side=1&iid=01

ACTION:
(1) Mammon v. Jimmy Boom (Jimmy Boom's side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4195&side=2&iid=01
(2) Mammon v. Leo Johnson (Leo Johnson's side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4415&side=2&iid=01

CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT:
(1) Mammon/Wizzie Belles "Whiplash" http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4325&side=1&iid=1
(2) Void City: Final Hour http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic%3bid=4058

TRADITIONAL:
(1) Mr. Creamy v. Trix (Mr. Creamy's side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4247&side=1&iid=1
(2) Jimmy Boom v. Morrow Stone v. Toro Joe (Toro Joe's side)

DIGITAL:
(1) JRPGHero v. Leo Johnson (JRPGHero's side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4230&side=1&iid=1
(2) Roy vs Lt. Angus Blackader (Blackader's side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4136&side=2&iid=1

MIXED MEDIA:
(1) Roy v. Angus Blackader (Roy's side) http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4136&side=2&iid=1
(2) Florence Ailey: Graduation http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4437&side=1&iid=1

BEYOND BATTLE:
(1) Jules Saphir vs. Void City Pt.2 http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4270&side=1&iid=1
(2) Angela Rudell: Chuchunaa Islands Pt.1 http://entervoid.com/view.php?id=4236&side=1&iid=1

VERSUS BATTLE:
(1) Jimmy Boom v. Morrow Stone v. Toro Joe
(2) Lucy v. Merrick

NEW VOIDER:
(1) Kinuchio
(2) TDKZen

OUTSTANDING VOIDER:
(1) RoflQu
(2) MyHatsEatPeople

IMPROVED VOIDER:
(1) Animeshen
(2) Video320

HELPFUL VOIDER:
(1) CrackingSkulls
(2) Thresher

NEW CHARACTER:
(1) Florence Ailey
(2) Jimmy Boom

CHARACTER OF THE YEAR:
(1) Mr. Creamy
(2) Mammon

RETURNING CHARACTER:
(1) Cue
(2) Xia
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 6!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 23, 2012, 08:55 PM
EPISODE 6 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E6.mp3)

This week we got Will coming back, BoboJo and Julienya (Along with her assistant!)

Links that appeared in the podcast in order:


Darkstalkers contest: http://www.capcom.com/dsetd/
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 6!!
Post by: Magistelle on Dec 24, 2012, 12:19 AM
Thank you guys so much for the critique! ;w; I'm always taking them into consideration, and I love every single one. <3 You always hit the nail right on the head!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 6!! BoV2012 new deadline
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 24, 2012, 03:48 AM
Thank you guys so much for the critique! ;w; I'm always taking them into consideration, and I love every single one. <3 You always hit the nail right on the head!

Glad to know we helped out Magi! you're improving with each comic, so keep going!


As a side note, I noticed that there are a few comics that are being released before the year ends, and I thought it would have been unfair to end the deadline before they had a chance of being read an possibly nominated.

So here's the deal, folks: I'm extending the deadline to the 29th, since that seems to be the last comic coming out in 2012. After which, I will set up a community vote and will have a voting time of 1 week.

HOPEFULLY this will be the last changes I'm going to do. Thanks to everyone else who have participated in VC:SI's Best of Void 2012 so far.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 6!! BoV2012 new deadline
Post by: Pocketmouse on Dec 24, 2012, 06:25 AM
Thank you guys so much! Everything you mentioned is really useful <3
(I feel like I should just point out the only trad thing in the comic is the lineart)
And yes, I plan on continuing this story.

OH! and thank you to everyone who said they think my voice is cute! I have never actually had that before, it's really sweet of you guys to say <3.

ty ty again!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 6!! BoV2012 new deadline
Post by: Ten Dead Kings on Dec 24, 2012, 08:01 AM
Let this be a lesson to everyone that just because you and one other person knows the in-joke, the greater part of humanity may not. It's clear I forgot this lesson.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 6!! BoV2012 new deadline
Post by: Pocketmouse on Dec 24, 2012, 08:27 AM
Let this be a lesson to everyone that just because you and one other person knows the in-joke, the greater part of humanity may not. It's clear I forgot this lesson.
Yes! It's such a shame it wasn't translated.
Maybe something like an heirloom so you could portray visually that they were related would have worked? Just a consideration in case you find yourself in a similar position some other time.
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 6!! BoV2012 new deadline
Post by: justarhymes on Dec 26, 2012, 01:13 PM
I wish people actually left comments with critiques that thorough on comics.

AND YOU GUYS!  I've done like three battles in the last few months! I've BEEN back :p
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 6!! BoV2012 new deadline
Post by: Bobo on Dec 26, 2012, 01:35 PM
I know, but it's still nice that you're still back :P
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 6!! BoV2012 new deadline
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 26, 2012, 03:56 PM
I wish people actually left comments with critiques that thorough on comics.

AND YOU GUYS!  I've done like three battles in the last few months! I've BEEN back :p

I KNOW I totally forgot you've been back, I feel pretty embarrassed about not recalling them!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 7!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 30, 2012, 04:04 PM
VC:SI EPISODE 7 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E7.mp3)

Magistelle and A Bad Idea join me in discussing some really weird shit and we have a talk about hopes for the new year to come!
Title: Re: Introducing VC:SI !! Episode 7!! BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 31, 2012, 01:39 AM
BEST OF VOID 2012 POLLS ARE UP

Here's how it goes: Everyone can vote for only one person in each category, and voting time will be ONE WEEK. after voting ends, I'll gather up the votes and announce winners on the podcast of that week. So basically it's like this:

Begins: Monday December 31st 2012
Ends: Monday January 7th 2013
Announced winners: Sunday January 13th 2013

And of course, I would never think anyone here would be willing to cheat the votes, but as a precaution, I am keeping an eye on the polls (I'll know if someone's cheating).

Here is the list of comics that are posted (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uuq8xdIGQOWcJwNrgntBkY9FSW6i0tMzVN2PIkbuUSU/edit), in case you want to look back on the comics faster than just scrolling through the archives:

So get to voting!

Best comic in Comedy (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16225)
Best comic in Action (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16226)

Best comic in Character Development (PART 1) (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16227)
Best comic in Character Development (PART 2) (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16228)

Best Traditional Comic (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16229)

Best Digital Comic (PART 1) (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16236)
Best Digital Comic (PART 2) (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16237)

Best Mixed Media Comic (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16238)
Best Beyond Battle (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16239)
Best Versus Battle (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16240)

Most Outstanding Newcomer (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16241)
Most Outstanding Voider of 2012 (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16242)
Most Improved Voider (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16243)
Most Helpful Voider in Critiques (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16244)

Best New Character (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16245)
Character of the Year (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16246)
Best Returning Character (http://mypollcreator.com/vote/16247)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Pennydox on Dec 31, 2012, 12:30 PM
some other topics:
-how to stay healthy
-what do people do while they draw (listen to podcasts? music? eat food? etc.)
-things that prevent them from getting work done (work? social life? etc)
-hobbies that aren't about drawing comics
-things that have little to do with drawing comics, but may have helped them improve or add to their own style (college courses, hobbies, sports, etc)
-keep-it-PG: ways to make something incredibly inappropriate while at the same time only older adults would understand how silly/inappropriate that is.
-Trends in comics: what was vampire comics last year, now it's zombies--what do you think will be next in the real comic media world?
-Collaborations with other groups: why do it? Or you wanna be solo?
-Colors: in your comics do you have 'favorite colors' you often stick inside? a common color scheme?
-things you're uncomfortable drawing: do you like to draw guys more than gals? why? Or do you avoid drawing backgrounds or animals?
-tools you absolutely love or resent: actual company brand name pens, don't like painting, etc.
-lettering by hand vs lettering on computer
-Favorite Erasers: i know this sounds silly, but some people prefer some eraser companies compared to others. We should at least know which ones should be avoided because they're not as good as others.
-Using blue lead: Why use light blue when scanners these days pick it up, and if there's a method to remove it on photoshop why not use red lead instead? Why not just use a pencil? Etc. Conflicts in decision.
-embarrassing, stupid, or silly problems you've had experienced in drawing: fun stories!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Kinu on Dec 31, 2012, 12:33 PM
I voted! Super nervous :'D
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Dec 31, 2012, 12:53 PM
I got my votes in too- not to mention I'm super surprised I got nominated in some sections. All the love folks, f'reals. <3

Best of luck everybody!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Magistelle on Dec 31, 2012, 01:18 PM
Voted as well! Good luck to everyone!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Tofubeast on Dec 31, 2012, 02:49 PM
I did my part and voted!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: GPS-Device on Dec 31, 2012, 05:53 PM
Voted
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: The Bent One on Dec 31, 2012, 11:51 PM
My votes were in earlier today.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 01, 2013, 07:27 AM
Um.... how come the comic I voted for in best comedy has 0 votes? Is that a bug, or...
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Evi on Jan 01, 2013, 07:53 AM
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3831/yesivoted.png)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 01, 2013, 08:01 AM
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3831/yesivoted.png)

That is AWESOME.

Also, Awwwwww you guys! I can't believe how many nominations I got! c:
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Rah on Jan 01, 2013, 02:38 PM
Um.... how come the comic I voted for in best comedy has 0 votes? Is that a bug, or...

this was happening to me too
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Jan 01, 2013, 03:04 PM
Um.... how come the comic I voted for in best comedy has 0 votes? Is that a bug, or...

this was happening to me too

Also me
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 01, 2013, 03:37 PM
I've noticed this has happened when I checked the votes by clicking 'results' on the polls, but no worries, your votes are being taken in. the control panel on my account has a proper tracker that shows the actual number of votes that are coming in, so I'm assuming what we're seeing outside of that is either a bug, or it hasn't updated itself.

So if you're still seeing that glitch, don't worry, I'm still getting your votes!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 02, 2013, 12:33 PM
I just started listening to episode 7, and my heart dropped during the pause between "This is the last Void Cast: Sitting In" and "of the year 2012."

I'm glad we'll be having more of these this year. :)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 02, 2013, 01:59 PM
With the next Armageddon, maybe the consequence for losing could be that another Armageddon match would have to happen with new fighters or something.

Also, Mister Kent, I hope you'll be entering Special Friend if we have another Speed Resurrection Tournament, because he needs to come back!

PS--Something tells me I should be commenting and voting more...
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: William_Duel on Jan 02, 2013, 03:02 PM
With the next Armageddon, maybe the consequence for losing could be that another Armageddon match would have to happen with new fighters or something.

I feel like the consequences at this point are less important than the event actually happening.  We have had difficulty getting it to occur and we missed a prime opportunity to have one in 2012.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: TINMAN on Jan 02, 2013, 03:31 PM
Voted. And flattered to see myself in the runnings. I anxiously await the outcomes.

You guys have covered some nicely varied topics recently and at the rate you crank these out I'm impressed at the quality and novelty of the discussion. Keep it up! Bring in some new voices. Review other works.

There probably should have been a tournament type event in the second half of 2012- although Wacky Races was awesome, there's more than enough talent to fill a tourney bracket. Invitational 2013 and an Armageddon both ought to happen this year- if not Gang Wars.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 02, 2013, 03:49 PM
Invitational 2013 and an Armageddon both ought to happen this year- if not Gang Wars.

Oooh! Gang Wars at the end of this year or something would be awesome! We could spend the months coming up to it with the various gangs recruiting fighters, then have a tournament-type thing at the end or whatever. I don't know, but it sounds cool.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Jan 02, 2013, 04:13 PM
I would love a team-tag tournament. I think it's probably the only type I would DEFINITELY be in for.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Rah on Jan 02, 2013, 04:33 PM
I would love a team-tag tournament. I think it's probably the only type I would DEFINITELY be in for.

^^^^^THIS^^^^^
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Atomicfish on Jan 02, 2013, 05:24 PM
I would love a team-tag tournament. I think it's probably the only type I would DEFINITELY be in for.

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

I'd be up for one!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Tofubeast on Jan 02, 2013, 05:39 PM
I remember talking to RoflQu about either another Sentai Tournament or All-Together-Now! 2, but that was pretty up in the air.

Invitational 2013 sounds nice, too, although Speeddeath is usually held before it, I think.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Charlie on Jan 02, 2013, 08:32 PM
I'd love a return of the Speed Death myself :).

But really any solid events next year would be swell. Also I voted a few days ago :)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 03, 2013, 11:04 PM
Hey everyone, just reminding anyone who hasn't voted that the deadline's on Monday! So if you want your favorite comic/character/voider to win, get to it!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 03, 2013, 11:23 PM
VOTE FOR DIGGORY
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Julz on Jan 03, 2013, 11:35 PM
Okay I voted :3 It's cool that I'm in a few of them, but I wish I'd have done better so I'd be picked actually hehe. Also it's spelled "Nyasuu", not "Nyassu".. :<
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 03, 2013, 11:41 PM
Okay I voted :3 It's cool that I'm in a few of them, but I wish I'd have done better so I'd be picked actually hehe. Also it's spelled "Nyasuu", not "Nyassu".. :<
whoops! I'l lcorrect that soon enough :'D
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 7 + BoV2012 voting starts!!
Post by: DragonHeart on Jan 04, 2013, 12:42 PM
I know its a bit late but I want to thank you guys for critiquing the comic I was in.
I really appreciate you all contributing to this. It really develops the community on here a lot.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 06, 2013, 11:44 PM
VC:SI Episode 8  (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E8.mp3)

William Duel and GPS join me in discussing trends that we think might happen in the future!

REMINDER: Voting for VC:SI BoV2012 ends Jan. 7th (today on my clock), so last minute votings better come in!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Majikura on Jan 07, 2013, 08:41 AM
What would really make void more appealing is if we had the front page actually explain to newcomers and passerbys how the site works, instead of a news page thats always outdated.  The outdated news page always makes us look deserted.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 07, 2013, 09:50 AM
What would really make void more appealing is if we had the front page actually explain to newcomers and passerbys how the site works, instead of a news page thats always outdated.  The outdated news page always makes us look deserted.

Amen! Kevin, if you see this, maybe I could mock up a front page for you?
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Jan 07, 2013, 10:36 AM
What would really make void more appealing is if we had the front page actually explain to newcomers and passerbys how the site works, instead of a news page thats always outdated.  The outdated news page always makes us look deserted.

Amen! Kevin, if you see this, maybe I could mock up a front page for you?

Seconded and thirded!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Angie on Jan 07, 2013, 10:48 AM
You should post that in the suggestions thread because Toast will be more likely to see it there. I do agree, I'm still waiting on the FAQ to be posted.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Zest on Jan 07, 2013, 11:12 AM
Is it just me, or have there been more non-violent characters in Void over the past couple years? I know I created Leland to be a foil to the more psychopathic fighters, but there are other awesome characters like Andy Heller that have sprung up. There are also a lot of innocent, heroic characters that have shown up (the Avant-Guardians, as an example), which is what inspired me to create the amoral bastard Chimp Change.

The thing about trends is that every paradigm change is a reaction to the previous one, and this is true for changes in clothing, music, and comics. So whatever macro trend takes the place of zombies, it'll most likely be something that either subverts it or goes in a totally opposite direction. The current popular zombies in works like The Walking Dead are a retro reversal of the 'rage zombies' that films like 28 Days Later introduced, which were in turn a subversion of the classic shambling zombie. It's an example of a micro-trend, but macro-trends exist  as well, like shifts between more stylized, 'cartoony' artwork and more realistic styles.

The trends will also need to reflect the culture in some way. I'd argue that zombies have been persistently popular for their associations with death and the apocalypse, reflecting in part a pop culture that both fears and eagerly awaits both. There's a split between grim, tragic stories like Walking Dead that focus on the horrors of human nature, and more darkly comedic stories like Zombieland that showcase the fun of taking on a pack of mindless monsters.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: William_Duel on Jan 07, 2013, 11:14 AM
You should post that in the suggestions thread because Toast will be more likely to see it there. I do agree, I'm still waiting on the FAQ to be posted.

Yeah I gave up on asking for this.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 07, 2013, 11:18 AM
The new trend is Bronies guys. Isn't that obvious?
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: William_Duel on Jan 07, 2013, 11:18 AM

The thing about trends is that every paradigm change is a reaction to the previous one, and this is true for changes in clothing, music, and comics. So whatever macro trend takes the place of zombies, it'll most likely be something that either subverts it or goes in a totally opposite direction. The current popular zombies in works like The Walking Dead are a retro reversal of the 'rage zombies' that films like 28 Days Later introduced, which were in turn a subversion of the classic shambling zombie. It's an example of a micro-trend, but macro-trends exist  as well, like shifts between more stylized, 'cartoony' artwork and more realistic styles.

Well the Walking Dead was actually created to answer a question posed by Kirkman.  Which is basically "What happens after the zombie apocalypse?"  So yeah, sometimes exploring a question for a genre that hasn't been asked before is another way to create a....well, popular franchise.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: The Bent One on Jan 07, 2013, 11:45 AM
I just started listening to these. I must listen to them all at once. WHILE DRAWING.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: TINMAN on Jan 07, 2013, 04:17 PM
Enjoyable episode as always, topics of conversation were of particular interest this time- always brilliant points by Willy D. Its good to hear from the many voices in the community conversationally and critique wise. Open dialogues are essential to a successful and informative cast, keep it up!

I think Void used to be much more competitive and viciously dissecting critiques were the order of the day so you had more uber violent characters. Now the community is much smaller and tightly knit, more sociable and friendly so the comics are smaller, more personal stories and the characters themselves are powered but none too aggressive.

The wave/counterwave is  always a factor, I think Warm Bodies is the first of many withdrawals from the hardcore zombie trend we've seen just as there tend to be more deconstruction of superheroes movies lately: Kickass and Super among them. Genre departure is always more compelling then the genre itself.

News page should never be the front page. Even the comics page would be better served there, perhaps a new person tab would be more helpful.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: William_Duel on Jan 07, 2013, 06:24 PM
One other trendy topic thing that occurred to me while driving, they're always trying to reinvent fairy tales if you've noticed.  While I don't think it started with the comic Fables, that comic surely helped out.  And now we've got tv shows like Grim and Once Upon a Time and we've got all these movies, Snow White and the Huntsman and Hansel and Gretel coming out.  But I think it's a trend on the fringe and until there's that one big 'Twilight-esque' franchise, it'll stay there.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Zest on Jan 07, 2013, 10:12 PM
Fairytales are also great fodder because they're public domain works. There's a similar trend with grim-n-gritty adaptations of Alice in Wonderland and the Wizard of Oz, and even novel revisions like Pride and Prejudice and Zombies... The intersection of pop culture and the public domain could warrant an episode all to itself.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Charlie on Jan 08, 2013, 12:11 AM
I like fairytale riffs - A few of my characters here are actually are based on Alice in Wonderland (only veryyyyy loosely) haha.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 08, 2013, 10:14 AM
I like fairytale riffs - A few of my characters here are actually are based on Alice in Wonderland (only veryyyyy loosely) haha.

THEY ARE? :O
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: The Bent One on Jan 08, 2013, 10:20 AM
Yeah. All the Grimms tales are public domain.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Charlie on Jan 08, 2013, 02:58 PM
I like fairytale riffs - A few of my characters here are actually are based on Alice in Wonderland (only veryyyyy loosely) haha.

THEY ARE? :O

Yes, WONDERLAND is. For two of the characters anyway :P (Priscilla and Pyro, though Pyro is less obvious right now). And some others I never got around to introducing into that story.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 08, 2013, 04:02 PM
Is Pyro the Cheshire cat?
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 08, 2013, 06:17 PM
I also forgot to announce it last night!

VOTING FOR VC:SI BEST OF VOID 2012 IS OVER

I've already collected the votes that were made before the deadline passed, and will announce it on Episode 9! BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 8!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 13, 2013, 11:33 PM
Sorry for the delay everyone! Technical difficulties happened on my side and I had to edit the podcast twice due to some error on soundbooth. episode 9 will be up shortly!

VC:SI EPISODE 9 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E9.mp3)

Will returns, with Kicki Kat and Drasticfantastic joining in!
We also announce VC:SI Best of Void 2012 winners!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 9!! BoV 2012 winners announced!
Post by: Rah on Jan 14, 2013, 06:14 AM
Woo, tied for best new character with Kinu! Thanks everyone! Although, personally I think it really needs to be settled once and for all. In a fight. To the death.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 9!! BoV 2012 winners announced!
Post by: Mister Kent on Jan 14, 2013, 02:16 PM
AWWW ! ;D Congrats to all the winners!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 9!! BoV 2012 winners announced!
Post by: Jackster on Jan 14, 2013, 08:49 PM
Wow! Not only did I expect Dolly vs. Leviathorah to win first place, but tied for first place with a three-person battle! :o

Thanks everyone! And congratulations to those that won and got nominated!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 9!! BoV 2012 winners announced!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 15, 2013, 09:46 AM
Kichi, I'd be happy to collab with you! I'm never too busy for someone awesome like you and Beo. :)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 9!! BoV 2012 winners announced!
Post by: Dimension on Jan 15, 2013, 04:56 PM
Congrats to everyone!!! C: I even went back and read some of the ones I missed, all really good.


By the way, nice job with the Vcast guys. I've listening to all of them and they're all fun and interesting to listen to. (Just so you all know though, the Mayans actually never said anything about the world ending. I meant to mention that a few weeks ago since it actually bugged me because--because you guys like said it twice!)
Keep 'em up though, all of you are such cuties with cool voices.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 9!! BoV 2012 winners announced!
Post by: Shen on Jan 15, 2013, 06:46 PM
ah, I placed second in the same category twice! XD thats awesome! I'll try to make Gray even more appealing in the future! Thanks dudes who voted for me and thanks Vcast for another awesome episode! (the bits at the end about portfolios were especially useful- I think I do have stuff in there thats over two years old, and I guess its time to rotate them out!)

editing to add:

hey I dunno if this is a good place or not but I got a question about portfolios, and use of Void comics in them. For example, is it cool? Since other people's character would be in there, is it okay to have other people's designs in your portfolio, and should I ask permission? And how would I present them? So right now, in the comics tab of my website http://shensation.weebly.com/comics.html (http://shensation.weebly.com/comics.html), I just have a mash of some of my favorite pages I've done with no one whole story in there, because I thought that would take up an awful lot of space. Is that the wrong way to do it? Should I just put the entirety of some of my favorite fights in there? Is it cool like in a "best of the best" sorta way? I'm not sure. Thanks dudes, sorry if this is off topic, but we were just discussing portfolios lol so I thought it'd be a good time.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 9!! BoV 2012 winners announced!
Post by: Angie on Jan 15, 2013, 07:17 PM
It won't be a problem for other people's characters to be in your portfolio. If you're talking about getting into college with your portfolio, they want to see that you draw outside of school. Seeing a pile of comic pages would work to your benefit. Job wise it's still fine as long as you're not looking to get a job in character design. If you're looking to get a job in comics, they're more interested in seeing your ability to draw a comic than the characters that are within them.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 9!! BoV 2012 winners announced!
Post by: Atomicfish on Jan 15, 2013, 11:30 PM
I'd like to collab with you Kichi. :B

On portfolios, Donald Wu gave some portfolio advice for aspiring illustrators: http://fav.me/d5og6ny (http://fav.me/d5og6ny)


On vcast 8: Thank you fore reviewing mine and bobo's comics. I never realized that I draw arms too short, how embarrassing! It's what I get for not taking my time. Thanks again.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 10 is here!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 20, 2013, 11:53 PM
VC:SI EPISODE 10 IS UP TO LISTEN (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E10.mp3)

Joining me this episode is Pocketmouse, Otakutaylor, and tofubeast!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 10 is here!
Post by: Pocketmouse on Jan 21, 2013, 12:28 AM
http://pocketm0use.tumblr.com/post/40962915835/so-turns-out-the-quote-i-was-aiming-for-during
^An explanation of the 'quote' I tired to make be a thing.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 10 is here!
Post by: A Bad Idea on Jan 21, 2013, 05:44 AM
re: Character Writing

I've coined a concept recently that I'd like to share regarding character writing. I like to call it Character Interaction Level. When I design characters, I like to first think of the image I want to project with them, and what effect I want them to have on the reader. One way I do this is by figure out on what level does the audience "interact" with this character; how invested in this character does a reader get, or how much does he/she empathize with the character? There are varying levels of character interaction, so I'll just highlight the extremes with a few examples:

(http://images.wikia.com/walkingdead/images/b/b6/Lee_Everett.jpg)

Lee Everett, from the Walking Dead video game, is a high interaction character. Exercising the medium of what is essentially a visual novel-format, Lee is a character who is meant to be empathized with. By making his decisions, you project yourself into his circumstances, and you feel the effects and repercussions of each decision you make. Despite that, he is more than an avatar for a player to make decisions with; he has his own depth, which the player is then encouraged to explore through gameplay by walking in his shoes, forming a connection between player and character.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NnN2hBCULxA/TZWKrxb0XCI/AAAAAAAACsE/DTfQmkRO8Qw/s1600/5a.jpg)

Bayonetta is a Low Interaction character. She isn't layered, emotional, or deep like Lee is. At first, you might even think that she's completely shallow. The truth is quite the opposite; she is positively bursting with personality, attitude, and flair. For what she lacks in complex personality nuances, she makes up for in bravado and absurdity. You don't empathize with Bayonetta or connect to her on a personal level, but she is so larger-than-life that she becomes entertaining on an observant level. She is cocky, fearless, and laughs death in the face, and as a player, you get your entertainment from throwing her against impossible odds and coming out on top. Low Interaction characters are not about subtlety and complexity, they're about loudness, impact, and making a powerful and lasting impression.


This is not a measure of a "right" way or a "wrong" way to write a character. Lee and Bayonetta are both great characters; they're just entertaining on two different levels. However, these are just samples of the extremes on this scale; it's possible to have a character on the middle of the scale, or flexible enough to reach into both regions at once. At this point, you should ask yourself "How deep do I want this character to be?" "How much impact should this character have?" "What kind of effect do I want my character to have with the audience?". Not only will this help you settle on an 'image' for your character to project, but it's also helpful in theming your story and deciding how deep or how flashy you want your story to be.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 10 is here!
Post by: DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix) on Jan 21, 2013, 08:59 AM
Wow 1st place for Character Development 2012! I feel all warm and fuzzy! Thank you Void!!!! Onward and upward.... planning on having enough to be in several categories for 2013!!!! Awesome Podcast too! Can't wait for the next one! I remember doing the very first sets of these way back when in my apartment with Toast and Galvo and Elio.... such fun times!

Issue #2 on track!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 10 is here!
Post by: TINMAN on Jan 21, 2013, 03:11 PM
Playing through Walking Dead episode 4 now, Lee is my hero.

Wow I didn't think I was even in the running for so many categories- but it means a lot that my respected peers thought I was worthy of the titles! I shall try to uphold their tenants and values in the following year to maintain their esteem.

These podcasts never fail to get me drawing and hyped for the comics and you talk about the topics which pertain to my interests so elusive in the mundane working world. Tox was a dynamic addition to the cast, and I greatly enjoyed his presence. Keep them coming!

As for the silent comics- I did one myself awhile back that may interest you. I think if your comic isn't at least somewhat followable through the charades and telegraphs of your characters body language and the shots you've chosen, you're leaving it all up to the dialogue- which better be perfect. http://warforarcadia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=1297
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 10 is here!
Post by: Shen on Jan 23, 2013, 09:17 PM
finally listened to 10 while I was drawing. Thanks for the critique! I almost forgot I had a comic up for you to talk about haha! I just want to say that its funny you mention its time to move on to whatever is going to happen next with Gray- I was using this comic as a transition comic, and from here I have every intention of starting a new direction with her. It looks like Pocky's comic is going to be canon, but I can work with that lol. so when this tournament is over, or after I lose I guess, I hope you will like her next comics!
also thanks for all the tips on character development! These VCasts are always a treat to listen to, I learn so much!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 10 is here!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 23, 2013, 09:46 PM
finally listened to 10 while I was drawing. Thanks for the critique! I almost forgot I had a comic up for you to talk about haha! I just want to say that its funny you mention its time to move on to whatever is going to happen next with Gray- I was using this comic as a transition comic, and from here I have every intention of starting a new direction with her. It looks like Pocky's comic is going to be canon, but I can work with that lol. so when this tournament is over, or after I lose I guess, I hope you will like her next comics!
also thanks for all the tips on character development! These VCasts are always a treat to listen to, I learn so much!

Your character's canon is completely up to you; even if you lose a battle,  you can still keep your own comic's story as your canon if you want. Just FYI. :)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 28, 2013, 01:55 AM
VC:SI Episode 11 is up for listening! (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E11%20final.mp3)

This week, Kura comes back, and Hat's joins in!!

I'd also like to apologize for the crackling on my side, it seems my microphone decided it hates me and freaked out for the most part, so I had to add an explanation as to what happened in this podcast. This is also the reason why the episode is late, Sorry about that!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: Shen on Jan 29, 2013, 04:18 AM
thank you for another voidcast! I got a lot done while listening! and Kura, omg I had no idea how bizarrely COMPLEX your last Cue fight was! XD I had to follow along with your critique to catch everything I missed the first time through. GENIUS.
really quick I wanted to share my Awkward Art School Moment because I was like screaming it in my head when you guys got past that part, lol! Like many others it was in life drawing. we were drawing this regular model, an older male with a great physique, really in shape, but he had a STARING problem. All the girls in class agreed that it was creepy the way, when he was facing you he would FOCUS on you, like right in your eyes. He didn't seem to do that to the guys. But we ignored it, whatev', after a point a model just becomes a series of shapes anyhow. But one day, halfway through the session, he gets... erect. And not even a little, it was a god damned tent pole. And there was this gooey string dangling from the tip that traveled allllll the way dowwwwwn to the floooooor. Needless to say, after that session, we never saw that model again.
now that I think about it maybe this story is inappropriate XD sorry
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: Sabulive on Jan 29, 2013, 04:22 AM
Animeshen, that made me scream on the inside. Dear god, that is equal amounts of awkward and terrifying.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 29, 2013, 04:59 AM
SHEN I AM FUCKING DYING WHAT HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: Pocketmouse on Jan 29, 2013, 05:57 AM
That is mortifying!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: DragonHeart on Jan 29, 2013, 08:11 AM
Oh my God. That sounds so sexy. You should write porn AnimeShen!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 29, 2013, 08:42 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

Shen, for VOID--that is completely appropriate XD
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: The Bent One on Jan 29, 2013, 08:59 AM
That sounds similar to something that happened at my college, minus the creeper factor.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: Wolcik on Jan 29, 2013, 11:00 AM
Well, I used to work as a nude model myself for almost a year at the academy so I might have an different point of view on the whole posing subject.

Majikura's comics with narration from creator was awesome, and so informative - pointing all the possible mistakes with commentary gives a new perspective.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: TINMAN on Jan 29, 2013, 11:04 AM
My apologies Shen, I'd keep it in my pants next time but, you know... kind of defeats the purpose.

http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi2598149657/
"Don't worry folks looks like the Hulk's not mad anymore, he's turning back into harmless Bruce Banner."

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: Wolcik on Jan 29, 2013, 01:48 PM
Also, you tottally went one way with digital vs traditional. If you have only people from one site of the coin you might get that - that's why it would be nice if some traditional or split media were there.

The traditional has a great advantage over the digital that you can try to do it everywhere if you have a pencil and sheet of paper - and maybe then scan it. But that's why I do both - if I have 5 or 10 minutes free at work I can "borrow" a paper from the printer and doodle something while I won't be able to smugle in laptop or install photoshop and tablet on work computer.

Traditional also has a neat advantage for me that I can try my hand-to-eye skill, while hand-eye-computer is kind of harder with tablet and monitor - unless you can suggest me one of those tablet monitors, it'll be awesome.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 11!!
Post by: Shen on Jan 29, 2013, 09:15 PM
haha sorry if I grossed everyone out!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 12 is here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 04, 2013, 03:19 AM
Hey hey hey!

Episode 12 is here!! (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E12%20vets%20and%20newcomers.mp3)

Joining me is GPS-Device, with two old school veterans, Mamoru and Felle!
We talk about the ranking system, the intro story requirements for newcomers and vets, and some tag team tournament stuff!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 12 is here!!
Post by: Dimension on Feb 05, 2013, 04:47 PM
Thanks for the critique guys! I actually never noticed that Karl (the crocodile) looked like he was trying to crawl out of the panel at first. Once mamoru pointed it out I laughed pretty hard. <3

I'll give my two cents on the ranking system and what I think about current battles seeming like they are planned /too/ well, later. I gotta catch up on homework first.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 12 is here!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Feb 05, 2013, 05:37 PM
Listening right now!

and I'm glad you guys are dedicating a section telling Voiders to put their rears in gear and leave more comments. I do my best to try and get my two cents in, in every battle and expect the same. It's how we learn and grow my friends!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 12 is here!!
Post by: Charlie on Feb 05, 2013, 05:59 PM
You guys give me too much credit.

I am not mentoring anyone, I can barely finish a battle hahaha!!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 12 is here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 06, 2013, 12:10 AM
I also forgot to mention, since it's super important:

February is the month where my portfolio submission to college is going to be due, and I'm gonna need to pay more attention and care into it if I want any chance of getting accepted into Animation and having a shot at some kind of sustainable job.

So bare with me this month, podcast is going to be updated a little slower for now. Episode 13 will come NEXT week. (the 17th)

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 12 is here!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Feb 06, 2013, 12:29 AM
Good luck with the portfolio! Looking forward to the next 'cast, and thanks for the good comic critiques! Much appreciated ;D
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 12 is here!!
Post by: Evi on Feb 06, 2013, 12:32 AM
daww you guys flatter me so. Thank you for the comments on my intro comic.

I originally intended the yellow to indicate the abruptness of the situation, but now I do see that it isn't the best idea to use it on characters with a cooler color scheme. I guess I was too overconfident with the yellows on Capslock and Shift at the beginning pages, I'll keep that in mind next time.

And speaking about how "planned" a lot of battles are... I have a feeling I'll be guilty of doing the same LOL, but after hearing the opinions on it I'll try to be more open about it and take a few risks.
Unfortunately I don't see myself battling very soon, probably next month for sure though!

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 18, 2013, 03:57 AM
VC:SI Episode 13 is here (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E13.mp3)

Joining me is SirThresher and Newcomer Faiface, we talk about the match ups on the tag team tournament, and comments on battles
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Feb 18, 2013, 09:09 PM
Firing this voidcast up while I work on my pages. Great way to pass the time doing the monotonous bits of sequential work.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: Minteh on Feb 19, 2013, 06:04 PM
Really entertaining as usual guys :) And I have to say thank you for the critiques, of course!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: Bobo on Feb 20, 2013, 08:38 AM
Hey! My scar match against Dr Rhino came from an open challenge! And I'd totally be battling Energy right now if I weren't in the TTT! So there's at least one guy who pays attention to those open battles!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: A Bad Idea on Feb 21, 2013, 01:26 AM
Possible VCast topic: Interpreting Your Opponent. How do you choose to represent your opponent in your battles? What steps do you take to understand their character? What are your goals in writing the opponent's character?
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: Bobo on Feb 21, 2013, 08:58 AM
Possible VCast topic: Interpreting Your Opponent. How do you choose to represent your opponent in your battles? What steps do you take to understand their character? What are your goals in writing the opponent's character?

I think this has been addressed already, but I agree that it could be worth revisiting more in-depth (maybe with artists who are really good at interpreting opponents? I can think of a few on the site who seem to be especially good at this...)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: William_Duel on Feb 21, 2013, 10:12 AM
Maybe each voidcast should have a quick description of what is discussed so people stop repeating topics.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: A Bad Idea on Feb 21, 2013, 02:48 PM
Whoops.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: Wolcik on Feb 21, 2013, 05:40 PM
Maybe each voidcast should have a quick description of what is discussed so people stop repeating topics.
Well, since the cast isn't always the same, some of the question could be repeated, cause someone might have a new insight.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: William_Duel on Feb 21, 2013, 06:12 PM
Maybe each voidcast should have a quick description of what is discussed so people stop repeating topics.
Well, since the cast isn't always the same, some of the question could be repeated, cause someone might have a new insight.

Doesn't matter.  It would help to categorize.  If you want to revisit topics that's find, but if you want to listen to a certain topic, it would help to find it.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 21, 2013, 06:57 PM
Good point. I'll be sure to list the topics in each episode soon for easier listening. thanks for the feedback!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Feb 21, 2013, 07:48 PM
I second this idea because I was trying to find the Voidcast discussing a certain battle and had to go through most of them looking for it. Be nice to have a breakdown of what's going on in each.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: Miss Jetster Fukken Jay ❤︎ on Feb 24, 2013, 12:47 PM
It might be a bit of work, but would love to hear about some team's stories about the experiences they had in the first round of the TTT.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: vision on Feb 25, 2013, 02:17 AM
TERRIBLY! Let's compare notes.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 13!!
Post by: Wolcik on Feb 25, 2013, 02:50 AM
It might be a bit of work, but would love to hear about some team's stories about the experiences they had in the first round of the TTT.
I think that it would be awesome -but it would require Crackingskull to interview people, and since you can't get so many of them all at once, it's eighter choose just few, or record 5 minutes story from as many people in TTT as possible.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Mar 03, 2013, 06:34 PM
Hey all you fine people!

VC:SI Episode 14 is here (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E14.mp3)!!
We talk about round 1 of TTT, and the origin of void's theme song

Thanks to everyone for being patient, VC:SI returns to it's regular schedule! Keep an eye out later though, gonna announce a few things later today or tomorrow
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: Thresher on Mar 03, 2013, 07:44 PM
Gonna be listening to this on the bus tomorrrow!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Mar 03, 2013, 08:41 PM
FYI: I was wrong; I found the song through the site's forum archives. Goes to show how well my memory serves me!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: Red on Mar 04, 2013, 02:31 PM
I really liked this episode, thanks for the critique :3 Haha, please stop yawning though!! It was making me yawn too lol.

I'm glad someone is keeping up with making podcasts, I love listening to them :D
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Mar 04, 2013, 02:41 PM
Yeah apologies on that, long day on my side at the time
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: Wolcik on Mar 04, 2013, 05:28 PM
Listen to it at work. I still hear it in stereo as guests are in one ear and Crackingskulls in the other.
I love hearing about my work in podcast and such XD Im a happy panda then
Glad you enjoyed and hope you will enjoy even more the second round.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Mar 07, 2013, 10:33 AM
YES Lovely entertaining VCAST this time. Great critiques, and it was really fun hearing some behind-the-scenes tales, too.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: Bobo on Mar 07, 2013, 11:59 AM
Just listening to episode 14: poor felle, basically got paired up against the exact worst opponents in this tournament.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: galvo on Mar 07, 2013, 12:35 PM
HEY... who do i have to love on to join one of these audible orgies?
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: TINMAN on Mar 07, 2013, 01:36 PM
You have to give us all ur luvins'- all ur hugz an keeses 2. Zz Top style.

Pretty sure recordings go down on Friday nights Central time. It'd be great to hear some ancient Void lore from the Man Himself and comparisons on the original Tag Tourney with the current one. There are a million Void/comics in general topics I'd love to pick your brain on.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: galvo on Mar 07, 2013, 02:09 PM
zztop heeelll yah.

TINMAN YOU FROM CHICAGO WTF?

this is exciting.. who else is out here?



hoping i can get in a talk with ya'll on friday night!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: Red on Mar 07, 2013, 02:13 PM
You only come back here to get on to podcasts hahaha I think you were like the second guest on mine?? You better read up on these new comics, Gabe!!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: galvo on Mar 07, 2013, 02:18 PM
SHHHHHH BRIT, DONT GIVE AWAY MY SECRETS!

i'm reading! i read... sometimes.
here n there.


<3
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Mar 07, 2013, 03:49 PM
Oh Galvo, you're always welcomed into the podcast as long as you oblige to what tinman said :D
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: galvo on Mar 07, 2013, 03:54 PM
ffiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine. love for all.

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 14 is here!!
Post by: TINMAN on Mar 07, 2013, 05:06 PM
It's a good thing Galvo's a dayum Cult Of Personality, and by divine right of Kings he can inject himself FORCIBLY into all mediums. We welcome our returned Galvotronic overlards.

Aside from us- and the oldskool cats you know- I reckon there's a handful of inactive Voiders in the Chicagoland area, but I pretty much only regularly hangout with Josh Gilley- Sam Oinkos creator. Others can feel free to make themselves known.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Mar 11, 2013, 01:04 AM
EPISODE 15 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E15.mp3)

This episode we got TINMAN, williamduel, and one of the founding fathers of void, Galvo!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: Slagglle on Mar 11, 2013, 01:58 AM
It's come up a few times before, so to set the record straight, I AM a dude.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: William_Duel on Mar 11, 2013, 04:06 AM
You've ruined the mystery Slagglle..
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: laikoh on Mar 11, 2013, 07:02 AM
This episode was great! Learned a lot from galvo's stories and the critiques on Ivin.

Just one question for Clackin- what was the name of the character you suggested I look up? Gloofy Umiss? Lucy Loomis? Didn't quite catch it, sorry!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: Red on Mar 11, 2013, 07:11 AM
This episode was great! Learned a lot from galvo's stories and the critiques on Ivin.

Just one question for Clackin- what was the name of the character you suggested I look up? Gloofy Umiss? Lucy Loomis? Didn't quite catch it, sorry!

Loofy Loomis!

http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=character%3bid=1460
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: laikoh on Mar 11, 2013, 07:16 AM
Whoa cool, thanks Red!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: Bobo on Mar 11, 2013, 08:55 AM
Finally finishing episode 14--I wrote the French Princess line. A lot of the dialogue was pretty vague when gregly sent me his pencils, so I ad-libbed a lot of it in the final product. I'm glad you liked that line, because it was a terrible pun hahah.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: Red on Mar 11, 2013, 02:11 PM
Good episode! Can't wait for my all expenses paid trip to Tibet from Galvo!!!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: galvo on Mar 11, 2013, 02:15 PM
hey hey hey hey- i didnt say that.
i just say a trip to tibet.


expenses is up to you! that includes paying off chinese officials to let you draw whatever you want. <3
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Mar 11, 2013, 07:39 PM
THAT ANNOUNCEMENT I MENTIONED:
 So for the majority of February, there was a small amount of updates here and there, and I am starting to see that being a one-host show can get exhausting, so here's what I'm gonna do:
 
 I'm going to be looking for a few people (preferably ones with a good audio recording and editing program and experience in making audio recordings) to be assisting me on VC:SI. Rather than wait for me to record, edit, and upload, I'll have a good amount of people to help me getting podcast episodes out sooner.
 
 Though some of you think this is a great idea, keep in mind, I HAVE to see and know that you're responsible with communicating, scheduling, organizing, recording and editing episodes to keep the show alive and kicking each week. It takes a lot of planning to make each episode, and keeping a consistent schedule is a must. If I see you're willing but don't have much experience, I'll help out and let you know how things go down for this show.
I'll also be looking out for mainstays and co-hosts. I already have an idea of who I want in on the show regularly, but I'll still keep an eye out for others. Communication, scheduling, and organization needs still applies.
 
 if anyone is interested, lemme know via PM
 
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 15!!
Post by: galvo on Mar 11, 2013, 11:26 PM
can I be your Andy richter? <3
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 16 is here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Mar 18, 2013, 02:00 AM
VC:SI EPISODE 16 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E16.mp3)

ABI and DrasticFantastic join me in talking about style vs form in comics, and what old school voider we'd love to see back in action
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 16 is here!!
Post by: Pennydox on Mar 18, 2013, 09:59 PM
some more topics/questions that popped up in my head:
-linework straight from the computer, vs. drawing it by hand and scanning it in
-Although most of us have a dream to be a comic artist, what other occupations can go along with this skill?
-Everyone has problems with anatomy and perspective. Does anyone have practice tips and tricks that will help us learn to improve on our own? We can practice, but how or where should we start?
-If you do work by hand, how often are mistakes made, and how do you correct them?
-What does your workspace look like? Crowded or clean?
-photo reference vs. drawing the pose/idea straight from your head
-I'd like to hear more about old artists. Or even stories have have been made by them.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 16 is here!!
Post by: Pocketmouse on Mar 19, 2013, 03:41 AM
'The Zeroth' is in reference to Asimov's laws of robotics; as listed:

1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3.A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

Later, they added another, which had to come first in the order, so it had to have the number 0. (The order matters because of how a robot would apply them.)

0. A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.

Hence the 'Zeroth', 0th. It was just Sci-fi Fluff I was having fun with. I'll be more careful about dropping things in like that in the future; I'll make sure it's not going to confuse people. ;')

Though personally I am a fan of it being this fucken badass monster robot Veronica is responsible for instead! Haha.

Thanks so much for the critiques and feedback, guys <3
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 16 is here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Mar 19, 2013, 04:06 AM
Oh! I probably should have looked it up to begin with (stoopid me haha), but that's actually pretty neat, PoMo!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 16 is here!!
Post by: Bobo on Mar 19, 2013, 11:47 AM
Because I'm just a nerd, here are all the artists mentioned in the podcast:
Fuudasha (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=95)
Mickey (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=45)
Perca (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1905)
Jar (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=82) (and FENIX (http://entervoid.com/character/168))
Craqued (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1078)
Mamoru (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=365)
Monday (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=636) (and Agent Black (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=character%3bid=553))
Chamba (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=568)
James (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=12)
Squidman (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2018) (and Ben (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=character%3bid=1364))
Hiemie (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=349)
Kure (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=445)
STPLMSTR (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=193) (thanks Red! No wonder I couldn't find him hahah)
Spinzoa (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1467)
Bittermause (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1564)
Graphyte Ronin (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=310)
SilverLimit (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=105)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 16 is here!!
Post by: Red on Mar 19, 2013, 11:52 AM
STPLMSTR
http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=193
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Mar 25, 2013, 12:06 AM
EPISODE 17 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast%20e17.mp3)

Galvo and Toxic join me in talking about a lot of stuff, even the butterfly effect.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: A Bad Idea on Mar 25, 2013, 03:25 AM
@galvo, re: Style

Your point is valid and well-thought out. I still stand by that no one should fall  back onto the label of "style" to justify lack of learning, but as a springboard or source of inspiration, you're definitely right. Five years have granted you much more wisdom than I, thus I respectfully concede.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: galvo on Mar 25, 2013, 06:33 PM
@galvo, re: Style

Your point is valid and well-thought out. I still stand by that no one should fall  back onto the label of "style" to justify lack of learning, but as a springboard or source of inspiration, you're definitely right. Five years have granted you much more wisdom than I, thus I respectfully concede.

oh totally dude.. i agree-- but you and i both know the people who can and CAN'T hack it.

the people that think they know how to bend the matrix, but in reality it bends them.


what i was trying to get at is, yer opinion felt really narrowminded -- i'm sure you just went off on a tangent, like i did ... but the idea that styles dont exist sent me on a rage hahah SORRY <3

i miss this banter <3
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: Bobo on Mar 26, 2013, 12:02 PM
Listening to episode 17 reminded me... way back in 2007, I donated money to VOID, and I never got my freakin' patch! Hahah. We totally need to bring those back, because I would wear it proudly everywhere I went.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: William_Duel on Mar 26, 2013, 12:20 PM
When we had buttons to sell and I bought a few, mine came with some void stickers and a few stickers that said "Hi!  My name is ________ And I want to fight you!" or something along those lines.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: Bobo on Mar 26, 2013, 04:11 PM
Man, we need to get more VOID merch! I would absolutely love to share that stuff wherever I could!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: galvo on Mar 26, 2013, 04:50 PM
Listening to episode 17 reminded me... way back in 2007, I donated money to VOID, and I never got my freakin' patch! Hahah. We totally need to bring those back, because I would wear it proudly everywhere I went.

ONCE YOU SEE AN UPDATE ON US GETTING PATCHES, PM ME.. I'LL GET YOU ONE.
DAN DROPPED THE BALL AT SOME POINT.


WILLIAM YES! I REMEMBER THOSE!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: Bobo on Mar 26, 2013, 08:54 PM
Listening to episode 17 reminded me... way back in 2007, I donated money to VOID, and I never got my freakin' patch! Hahah. We totally need to bring those back, because I would wear it proudly everywhere I went.

ONCE YOU SEE AN UPDATE ON US GETTING PATCHES, PM ME.. I'LL GET YOU ONE.
DAN DROPPED THE BALL AT SOME POINT.


WILLIAM YES! I REMEMBER THOSE!

Sweeeeeet!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: Pennydox on Mar 27, 2013, 09:05 AM
the convenience of the void icon being a square is that you can print that design a ton of times on an 8.5x11 sheet of iron-on transfer paper, and cut it all out to make iron-on thingies easily.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 01, 2013, 04:27 AM
Sorry guys, Episode 18 is gonna be late today! Completely my fault on that part, but will be up before the day ends.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: William_Duel on Apr 01, 2013, 06:44 AM

It's always your fault.  (http://entervoid.com/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 17!!
Post by: Wolcik on Apr 01, 2013, 03:57 PM
I have to admit that the audio is fixed and now I don't hear it in stereo - like guests and skull would be sitting in opposing site of the podcast.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 01, 2013, 06:04 PM
VC:SI EPISODE 18 FASHIONABLY (horribly) LATE (http://www.mediafire.com/?7e1r6zjw1xekj5k)

Some technical difficulties forced me to post the episode up on mediafire for download instead. I'll soon host it where I usually host episodes as soon as I figure out what's going on.

SO, joining me this week was Kura, Pocketmouse, and drasticfantastic who shows up a little later in.  We talk about the SDT choices for this year, careers and jobs relating to the skills of comics, and void merchandizing
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Red on Apr 01, 2013, 08:01 PM
Ok, I'm listening right now... stopping to type this out on the topic of the site being confusing and such...

When you are not logged in, you see a side bar that explains the site. I've been working on a small comic that explains the site to newcomers, similar to the ancient one with Toolio...

(http://i.imgur.com/ZJ1cC1X.png)

I don't have a place to put this yet..... I want to bring the splash page back, but we just need time..... but I understand the concern with the site being confusing, and I assure you all that it's being worked on. If you recall a month or so ago I shuffled the forums around/reorganized and we re-named some of the forum sections because it's confusing. It's. Not. Easy.... I've put a lot of time and thought into this very topic... and if I could magically fix one thing about Void, it would be that. A lot of weird stuff happened when the forums and main site were merged a while back too...

I've definitely had my friends say the same type of thing like "I went to Void but I didn't know how to find you!". The site definitely needs some help in that area....

News posts ... was planning on updating at the end of the TTT + announcement of new tournament.

High-res Void crest .... I did say in the other thread about the T-shirts that I would create a vector version of the logo... but you'll just to wait until the end of this tournament. It's pretty complicated but I can get it done.

Kinda frustrating to hear this, I know that one no besides the mods knows what I'm working on, but "Void is confusing" is what I've personally been trying to tackle for a while now. I'm going to finish the tournament and get right back to that stupid issue.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 01, 2013, 08:30 PM
No pressure, Red! I certainly recall you working on that a couple days back and I'm sure none of us on this episode meant that no one was doing anything to make the site more accessible to new people. Super glad you're doing the best you can to get the issue fixed!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Bobo on Apr 01, 2013, 08:33 PM
C'mon, Red! Don't tell me you can't kick fat butt in the tourney AND solve all of VOID problems AND whatever else it is you do all at the same time! Is that really so much to ask? I mean, it's not like you have any life to devote outside of VOID or anything...
April Fools
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Red on Apr 01, 2013, 08:58 PM
All I do outside of Void is pet cats, so I really have no excuse.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Pocketmouse on Apr 02, 2013, 01:20 AM
Wow red, I had no idea! It's great to know  you're working on that stuff! Please accept my sincerest apologies for my ignorance- I meant no offense by anything that was said.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Bobo on Apr 02, 2013, 06:52 AM
Pocketmouse, I really hope that was in response to Red's most recent comment and not the other one, because that would make it so much better hahahah
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: TINMAN on Apr 02, 2013, 07:17 AM
Another solid Cast. Its good to know that improvements are being made to streamline and focus the site. Even if the front page could be more regularly updated or a guide could be instituted it would help heaps.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Pocketmouse on Apr 02, 2013, 08:37 AM
Pocketmouse, I really hope that was in response to Red's most recent comment and not the other one, because that would make it so much better hahahah

Haha well... cats are serious business.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Angie on Apr 02, 2013, 09:34 AM
Well, people have complained about the site being difficult to figure out in the last 3 versions of the site so hopefully we can get it right this time!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Red on Apr 02, 2013, 09:43 AM
Wow red, I had no idea! It's great to know  you're working on that stuff! Please accept my sincerest apologies for my ignorance- I meant no offense by anything that was said.

Bah! Don't apologize, you guys were totally right about everything that was said. I definitely shouldn't have taken it personally... it's just my own frustration with the issue coming out haha.

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Evi on Apr 02, 2013, 11:29 AM
I agree this site's confusing to new people but you guys take your time to fix what's needed.
Red, that little comic you made is great! How about smacking it right on the homepage above the news section for users who aren't logged in? It would certainly be a lot more eye-catching.
I'm aware there's an About section for people who aren't logged in, but it's not as noticeable and you can't click on it for more information. I think it would be useful if it linked to the User Guide so people can immediately go there.
I guess what I'm saying is that any info about Void for newcomers could be highlighted for better efficiency.


Also, there was a mention of making fonts for your comics
If anyone's interested, http://www.myscriptfont.com/ allows you to turn your own handwriting into font!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Red on Apr 02, 2013, 11:44 AM
Also, there was a mention of making fonts for your comics
If anyone's interested, http://www.myscriptfont.com/ allows you to turn your own handwriting into font!

AWESOME. I was looking for something like this!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Bobo on Apr 02, 2013, 12:13 PM
Also, there was a mention of making fonts for your comics
If anyone's interested, http://www.myscriptfont.com/ allows you to turn your own handwriting into font!

AWESOME. I was looking for something like this!
ME TOOOOOOOO YOU JUST MADE MY DAY EVI
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Apr 02, 2013, 01:50 PM
On the topic of what comic art can be useful for in other careers - I study film at university and I realise that comic art comes in handy a lot, mainly coz it's another form of visually storytelling. It comes in handy for the obvious things such as storyboarding, but it's useful when having to pitch ideas to producers or crew members as well as giving a firm understanding of certain camera shots and how to frame (rule of 3rd and all that)

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Red on Apr 02, 2013, 04:59 PM
This helps right?

http://entervoid.com
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 02, 2013, 06:55 PM
This helps right?

http://entervoid.com (http://entervoid.com)
Very nice, Red! This is sure to give any new visitors what we're basically all about :D
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Pocketmouse on Apr 03, 2013, 02:19 AM
The new front page looks fantastic! You guys are doing such a great job <3<3 :'D
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: William_Duel on Apr 03, 2013, 05:59 AM
More comments on how to improve the site's current user interface are always welcome.  It's a constant process and people will always need a little prodding.  I agree the splash page looks great but it's a temporary solution to an ongoing problem.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Iced Tea on Apr 04, 2013, 03:19 AM
CrackingSkulls stop calling yourself stupid.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Bobo on Apr 04, 2013, 07:33 AM
CrackingSkulls stop calling yourself stupid.
YEAH!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: The Bent One on Apr 04, 2013, 09:07 AM
I just finished listening to all these. While drawing, nontheless. Excellent banter, great insights into the history and culture of Void, and a good listening length. KEEP THIS UP.

I should mention that after listening to the episode with the Void Vets, I have been inspired to create a character to just fuck around with people (other than The Beast).

Also, I'd love to be on the cast.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 04, 2013, 01:51 PM
CrackingSkulls stop calling yourself stupid.

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO. YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Apr 04, 2013, 02:30 PM
CrackingSkulls stop calling yourself stupid.

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO. YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD.

YOU'RE BREAKING THIS FAMILY APART
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Iced Tea on Apr 04, 2013, 04:12 PM
CrackingSkulls stop calling yourself stupid.

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO. YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD.

YOU'RE BREAKING THIS FAMILY APART

YOU WILL STOP THAT THIS INSTANT YOUNG LADY AND GIVE BENT-ONE A PART IN THE CAST AND THAT'S FINAL NOW GO TO YOUR ROOM
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: The Bent One on Apr 04, 2013, 04:15 PM
I didn't mean to cause so much drama! I feel so bad! IMMA GO DRINK TOO MUCH AND CRY MYSELF TO SLEEP.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 11, 2013, 03:37 PM
Sorry everyone. For the past week, I've been having some hardware problems with my computer, and it seems to be pointing towards my motherboard. I'm going to try a way to fix this, but for now, there might not be a recording this week.

Please bare with me, gonna do all I can to make this piece of shit work again.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: The Bent One on Apr 11, 2013, 04:29 PM
I have digital audio recording software if you want to still do the recording. We'd just be recording on my end, not yours. That is, if you think your computer would be ok with you just doing a skype call.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 11, 2013, 05:21 PM
My computers been locking up on me, which effects how basic programs are running. I'm able to use my dads laptop,  but I can't spend too much time on it when he has other plans for it.

Thanks for the offer,  Bent, but I just wouldn't have what I need to make it happen this week.

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Red on Apr 11, 2013, 06:08 PM
We shall patiently wait! Good luck!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: The Bent One on Apr 11, 2013, 09:07 PM
We shall patiently wait! Good luck!

Just like good little army wives.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 18 here!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 19, 2013, 09:32 PM
Okay guys, a little update.

My computer's still in the shop for diagnostics (which really shouldn't have taken too long) and I'm still using my dad's laptop. With his permission, I'm gonna get what I need set up and ready for recording.

Today was going to be recording, but that fell through so I'm going to try to aim for tomorrow or sunday, and release day should be monday or tuesday.
And for future reference, and to make sure recording dates go smoothly, I'd like to ask who else is willing to be on VC:SI that HASN'T been on an episode yet. Recording time is usually Fridays at 7 pm EST unless notified of any changes to the plans. If you guys ARE interested in coming on for an episode, lemme know either here on the thread or PM. I'll keep a list of those available and call you up when recording happens.
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: The Bent One on Apr 19, 2013, 09:59 PM
Count me in.
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: Angie on Apr 19, 2013, 10:24 PM
I'll go on if you ever need someone!
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: Red on Apr 19, 2013, 10:24 PM
Ooh I'd do it!

Edit: you need Angie and I at the same time. We promise not to talk about cats.
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 19, 2013, 10:45 PM
Haha nice! The more the merrier or however that's spelt.  ;D
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: Mister Kent on Apr 19, 2013, 11:27 PM
I'd love to come on someday when I have a Friday off work :D
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: Energy on Apr 20, 2013, 02:58 AM
One of these days, I'd like to be in one.

Not sure when would be the best time, since it's only really quiet around the time I usually get tired.  Or when no one's home.
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: Rah on Apr 20, 2013, 09:08 AM
I'd be happy sit in if you need someone with a silly accent :)
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Apr 20, 2013, 09:37 AM
I want to be with Becs because 2 silly accents are better then one.

ALSO I LURV BECS.
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: Ten Dead Kings on Apr 20, 2013, 09:39 AM
Get all the funny accents for a proper British Invasion.
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: Thresher on Apr 20, 2013, 10:27 AM
I am totally up for that.
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: Evi on Apr 20, 2013, 10:42 PM
Edit: oh pft I forget I'm ahead you guys, so its actually a Saturday 6am
I still don't think I can wake up to that haha
Title: Re: VC:SI UPDATE
Post by: Jiisuri on Apr 21, 2013, 08:31 AM
Oh hey that'd be 7am on Saturday morning for me, dohohoh~
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 19!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 27, 2013, 02:53 AM
After many delays and stupid computer problems, VC:SI Episode 19 is here (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSIE19.mp3)


This episode's a little more calmer than usual, as I was just trying to get an episode done for this week. I SHOULD be back on track for next Friday, so stay tuned.


Thanks for your patience and understanding guys!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 19!
Post by: Bobo on Apr 27, 2013, 06:23 AM
Hahah it's not episode 20 :P

ALSO: That cityscape background is new, handcrafted by the lovely Puzzlething. Don't forget that!

Wow! You listened to my advice before I even gave it! c:

PS: Kura, your wish is my command.
PPS: If you've suggested something and it hasn't happened yet, feel free to hound me about it until I get it done. Sometimes I just need to be reminded of something at the right time for me to get it done. :)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 19!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 27, 2013, 11:13 AM
that's what happens when you can't count/haven't kept  track on vc:si for 2 weeks :C
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 19!
Post by: Fred v2.0.1 on Apr 27, 2013, 04:27 PM
Free will is an illusion.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 19!
Post by: Evi on Apr 27, 2013, 10:57 PM
Woah that was fast. I'm loving the new "Random Comic" feature, Bobo! definitely haven't read most of these that are popping up.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 19!
Post by: Red on Apr 27, 2013, 11:06 PM
Thank you Bobo!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 19!
Post by: Jiisuri on Apr 28, 2013, 06:35 AM
So I just listened to the recent cast. That random comic feature came in fast yo.

Also, Minori will need to do some shopping.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 19!
Post by: Mister Kent on Apr 28, 2013, 10:01 AM
Love the new VCast ;D

BTW, the "molding" in Minori's comic that Fai refers to is actually "wainscoting" I think, since it goes like waist high...
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 19!
Post by: Iced Tea on Apr 29, 2013, 03:14 PM
Thanks for the clarification Kent!
Bobo I love the random comic feature you added, thank you!
Title: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 05, 2013, 04:19 PM
VC:SI Episode 20 is here! (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E20.mp3)


Magistelle and Iced joins me in talking about Sexism in video games and the new playlist feature on void!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Fred v2.0.1 on May 05, 2013, 07:29 PM
I highly disliked the first half of this. You just dismiss the other side of a debate that's much more complex than you seem to think as just silly and worthy of ridicule. You say they "obviously don't know what they're talking about", but who made you the expert on gender politics? I'm pretty sure hypersexualisation IS a part of sexism; It's the basis of objectification, which is part of the oppression of women, because you don't got rights when you're an object, yeah? Is drawing a set of gravity-defying huge breats inherently sexist? I don't think so. Is it part of the bigger issue of sexism in media and life? Perhaps. Are the character designs in this game sexist? I don't know, I'm not the sexism police, but I try not to dismiss anything straight off the bat and think of the bigger picture.

I honestly don't care much for politics in my Vcast, but if you're going to do it again, please look into your subject further than youtube comments.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Shen on May 05, 2013, 07:38 PM
LeFred I was just about to say the same thing. You guys are presenting only one view and being a bit biased in it, calling out the other side as stupid and laughing at their comments. I DID find those costumes a bit sexist. Sexualizing women isn't inherently sexist, a woman can be sexy, but if shes presented in a way that suggests shes only here to draw male gaze in, if shes only here to be sexy then I don't think thats a fair way to present women, especially if near-on ALL the women are drawn that way but none of the men are. The problem is that we see SO MUCH of this in games, women are always the prize or object of desire, people are just getting sick of it and they're calling it out. Like LeFred, I am not the sexism police, my word is not law and you have a right to your own views but I don't think you were being very fair. I'm actually a bit offended and how you just laughed and dismissed the entire idea that somebody could find those characters sexist, and then said anyone who argues in the forum about it is just comparing e-penises.
I'm just... I'm just fuckin' here to talk about comics, yo.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Rah on May 05, 2013, 08:37 PM
I agree wholeheartedly with the above. I saw the images in question and immediately interpreted them as sexist, but apparently I have no idea what the word means. Ok. 

The entire argument is that hypersexualising women but neglecting to hypersexualise men is causing women to see themselves as only worthy as the sum of their parts. We don't mean anything besides a combination of tits and ass. Yes, the men are exaggerated anatomically but they aren't hypersexualised.

You all identify that these characters are hypersexualised but dismiss this as "not sexist." It can be seen as so! The male characters are anatomically exaggerated, but are not sexualised in this instance or any instance I've seen. I have no problem at all with sexualising women, in the right context or for the right purpose. The problem is that women are almost always hypersexualised for almost every purpose and this game I'm afraid is an instance of this. That, like LeFred said, is the basis for objectification.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 05, 2013, 09:20 PM
To be honest, I realized what you were talking about right away and skipped ahead until you were talking about the playlists because I've got a lot of strong opinions about sexism/feminism and video games and I was like "I do NOT want to even hear about this right now" because I was all ready to hear cool Void stuff and not stuff that makes me passionately angry.

Read what the other people have posted so far I think I'm just going to never listen to it, just to avoid getting upset :<
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 05, 2013, 09:24 PM
I think I may have pushed the first topic over the edge, considering the feedback I'm getting.


I DO apologize for sounding like an ass, and I do know this could have been handled more professionally on my side. I wasn't trying to make a point that "Whoever argues about this doesn't know what their talking about", more like, "Some people arguing about it are making ridiculous comments on the matter", which definitely should have been better handled.


In my point of view, I didn't see it as sexist. You can make a sexualized character, just as long as the character itself had some content outside of her looks rather than be, as you said, solely an object for male gaze. I can understand why others would see it as sexist, but I said what I thought and believe when it comes to this kind of issue when women are given exaggerated features such as the Sorceress.


Again, I really really am sorry for not handling it better than I should have, and I hope you guys continue to give feedback on the show in future episodes, they're greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 05, 2013, 11:14 PM
Ok, I lied, I listened to it. Gunna try not to type an essay.

I like how if this was an issue of race then everyone would be offended. But, if it's an issue of sex then people are like "WTF, it's just tits get over it." Umm, women are still pretty oppressed and stereotyped. If you are fortunate enough to never really experienced that before, then I guess that's good .. but tons of women are objectified, stereotyped, paid less, and thought less of. I've unfortunately experienced those kinds of things, and I know that my experiences aren't nearly as bad as some other women have faced.
Things like this are a step in the wrong direction. As a female, can you really look at those characters and think "yup, this is a good female character." ??

It's not "just hypersexualizing." Women should be offended at this depiction of their gender, and I'm glad people are voicing their opinions about it. It doesn't matter if she's a powerful character in the game or not. This is embarrassing!!

Why is it ok for these dumb character designs to exist in games? Why is it ok to depict females in such an idiotic way? It's such a rare occasion to see a strong female lead that isn't 90% naked. Wouldn't you rather see your gender depicted is a POSITIVE way instead? Now, I'm not saying every character has to be Brienne from Game of Thrones http://images.wikia.com/gameofthrones/images/8/87/Brienne-of-Tarth-game-of-thrones-31362150-639-960.png but it's actually REFRESHING to see a female character that is a TOTAL BAD ASS and not about showing her tits to people. How about an actual female character that you can connect with?

+100 Points to anyone who creates non-overly-sexual female leads. +100 Points to anyone who stands up for their gender or race when they see something that offends them.

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 06, 2013, 12:41 AM
I love to see strong female characters in a game, Red. I've played games where the female was all about action and character rather than boobs and butt. It does exist and it can definitely be done.


I've mentioned in the episode, after the whole Dragon's Crown thing, that there ARE female leads in video games that aren't about sexual gaze. In fact, I brought up the point that 'Remember Me''s creator reported having to fight publishers to keep the main protagonist in the game female. THAT to me, I see as sexist. They immediately wanted to dismiss it because it wasn't a male cast. Is that fair? Dragon's Crown I know has some ridiculously sexualized female characters going on, and I know why people would be offended by that, but the controversy on how an actual strong looking female protagonist almost wasn't a female because of some jerk who thinks that shouldn't be allowed at all, doesn't get that much attention from the general audience in comparison to DC


As for the oppressed and stereotyped part, I've been subject to it before. I've been expected to be much thinner, look like a super-model, was even bullied for it. I'm not for oppressing women, I don't agree to it, and I don't stand for it when I'm being humiliated because I'm not living up to their standard of a perfect girl.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 06, 2013, 09:26 AM
I thought Zest's breakdown of this game (http://briandanielwolf.tumblr.com/post/49424627276/insouciant-magic-eight-ball-feminism-in-video-games) addressed this discussion really well.

Really, this isn't an issue with Dragon's Crown so much as it's an issue with society at large. Until recently, it has been almost impossible to find a strong female character in the media who wasn't conventionally attractive (or unconventionally extra-hot with huge boobs and a tiny waist, etc). The feminist movement wants to create a society where women can be themselves and still be strong, but in order for that to work we need to stop making every single female character super sexy, or at least without making them sexy according to some arbitrary standard of beauty. The reason this game has drawn a lot of attention is because it's so stylized, which exaggerates its female characters' sexualization more than other games might. I applaud Dragon's Crown for actually having a variety of body types, both for its male and female characters. I don't think this game is necessarily sexist in and of itself. What I do think is sexist is the idea that the only women we want on are team are the hot ones, while men can be weird-looking or fat and still be cool.

So maybe picking on this particular game was slightly unfair, but I still think it highlights a bigger issue in our culture. And what upsets me is that it's so normal to us now that people don't even understand why it's sexist.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 06, 2013, 09:49 AM
I've mentioned in the episode, after the whole Dragon's Crown thing, that there ARE female leads in video games that aren't about sexual gaze.
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I didn't say they didn't exist.

And you can have sexy characters that aren't sexist.

I'm going to try not to comment anymore....
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 06, 2013, 01:22 PM
*Gets to work on suggestions--gotta live up to expectations!*

PS--Until I get the collab battle thing working, you can always ask me to set it up for you instead of Toast. It's not too hard to do, and I tend to be a little more available than Toast.

EDIT: Okay, you can view all awards and your progress from your own profile or from the submenu under the Profile tab. I hope you're happy.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Evil_Encounter on May 06, 2013, 01:37 PM
Sexism is an difficult issue.
If we think about sexism we think about women depictet as objekts.
But is there no sexism against man?
Isn´t it sexist that man are seem to be said the source of sexism?
In those fantasy games nowadays we discuss about women dressed with metal bikinis that don´t protect shit and boobs bigger than their head.
But we never discuss how the males are allways handsome athletic guys in shining armor.
How most Characters are reduced to their bodies.
Women are supposed to look sexy, man are supposed to look strong but one is a standart and one is sexism.

We complain about how womens armor in games could never protect her body.
But let´s be serious, does it matter?
Does it matter how fancy my armor is, when i´m fighting a gigantic fire spitting dragon?
Though i never fought one... i think it is does not.
Women do dress different than males.
And you can´t explain everything with realism, especially imagination.

I don´t want to protect the game industry that obviously use most women as sex-objekts.
But i have to say that both genders are put in stereotypes.

So i may ask, who does decide when something is sexistic?
Where are the borders to sexism?
Are man and women are not alowed to look sexy anymore?
And who is allowed to create sexy characters an clothing?
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: William_Duel on May 06, 2013, 01:51 PM
I am itching to comment on this topic but haven't found enough time to write out the essay no one will read.  But since I'm dodging work I wanna comment on the comment above.  Yes the muscular male is an ideal image we can't live up to bit it's also a power fantasy in which we place ourselves as the tough and deserving hero worthy of admiration.  And in those scenarios women are an object to be won.  They are not the heroes.  This is the problem.  While I'd love to say more basically women need better representation in all media but in this fight people are too eager to demonize sex and sexuality.  There is a place for it and it doesn't need to be erased from the face of the Earth but in a society where everywhere you look you get a homogenized message about the role of women and their place in these stories there's no counterbalance.  Greater representation is needed.  To give a clearer example when you give a girl a spectrum of colors and she chooses pink that's fine but when you limit her choices to two shades of pink that's a problem.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Dr.Salt on May 06, 2013, 01:54 PM
Does it matter how fancy my armor is, when i´m fighting a gigantic fire spitting dragon?
Though i never fought one... i think it is does not.
I'm surprised you've never fought a dragon. If you ever do I would advise that you be less flippant about your armour! It would probably be best to have both of your legs and nipples covered, and buff for fire resistance.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 06, 2013, 02:27 PM
Yes, Mues Lee, all video game men are supposed to be tall and muscular.
(http://staciashaf.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/mario-princess-peach1.jpg)
All of them.

Notice how Peach is tall and skinny and Mario is just a short, stocky, round guy?

Besides, it's not sexist for athletic characters to have an athletic build; that's kind of the point. Mario is just a weird exception where all of his jumping and running doesn't seem to be doing him any good. There's a big difference between male characters with muscles and female characters with impossibly huge breasts. Unless those breasts are important to her character (which, as was pointed out in the podcast, may be part of the reason for the sorceress's gravity-defying breasts, although I feel that was pulled off badly if fertility were the intent of that design).

On a less controversial note, you can now challenge your friends to 2-Character Collab battles from the challenges page. Guess it wasn't as hard as I expected!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 06, 2013, 02:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/PFGefpL.png)

It only took a million tries!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Angie on May 06, 2013, 02:41 PM
OMG having the power to set up collab BBs and battles is a feature I've been waiting for since the dawn of time!

And I haven't gotten the chance to listen to the vcast yet and I'm not asking this to be a dick, I'm asking because I legitimately am curious. Why was the topic of sexism brought up on a podcast about EnterVOID? Has there been problems on the site lately?

Or was it just brought up because you guys wanted to give your opinions on it? If it's the latter, I don't know if it would really belong on here. It's kind of like going on an anime podcast and giving people my views on abortion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but there's better places to express them.

Again, disregard that if there's actually been a problem with sexism on the site. But yeah, I'm not sure why else it was a topic.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: A Bad Idea on May 06, 2013, 02:43 PM
I am itching to comment on this topic but haven't found enough time to write out the essay no one will read.  But since I'm dodging work I wanna comment on the comment above.  Yes the muscular male is an ideal image we can't live up to bit it's also a power fantasy in which we place ourselves as the tough and deserving hero worthy of admiration.  And in those scenarios women are an object to be won.  They are not the heroes.  This is the problem.  While I'd love to say more basically women need better representation in all media but in this fight people are too eager to demonize sex and sexuality.  There is a place for it and it doesn't need to be erased from the face of the Earth but in a society where everywhere you look you get a homogenized message about the role of women and their place in these stories there's no counterbalance.  Greater representation is needed.  To give a clearer example when you give a girl a spectrum of colors and she chooses pink that's fine but when you limit her choices to two shades of pink that's a problem.

I have a LOT to say on this, firstly because I love Dragon's Crown, and because it affects the things I like and the things I create, it will inevitably affect the things I am able to express with my art. I'll just start on two things:

1. I feel that the idea of a catch-all "male power fantasy" is itself a sexist train of thought. This implies that any and all men want to be the big buff guy in a video game, that power and muscles is all that a man aspires to. While society has shown it to be mostly true, it's also unfair to not include men who find power in other things. What if a man actually wants to be the little girl with the bow, or the beautiful sorceress who calls nature to her aid? What if he finds power not just in muscles and raw strength, but in grace and elegance? These are obviously the minority here, but it just bothers me whenever the term "male power fantasy" is thrown around like it's an expected norm of all men. The other half of this (which I cannot say for certain) is that when people fling around the idea that the "male power fantasy" is the norm, it's often forgotten that the possibility exists for a "female power fantasy". I know I'm stepping on a minefield by saying this, but I just want to point out that some women actually do like to live the fantasy of being a beautiful female hero that triumphs on the same playing field as the men. I know a girl who, despite her openly flagrant and welcome love of muscled old men, actually plays as Mai Shiranui (http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/11800000/Mai-Shiranui-in-King-of-Fighters-XIII-the-king-of-fighters-11892537-500-750.jpg) in King of Fighters. I've asked her why once before, and her reply was just "I think she's cool".

2. Either I've been methodically keeping my distance or I've been living under a rock, because it has been a LONG time since I've had a piece of entertainment in my hands that treats their female character as "a prize" or "an object". The kind of games I play, even with art design similar to Dragon's Crown, always place the female as a hero. This is especially true with George Kamitani's other works; in fact, nearly every other game he has produced (Odin Sphere, Muramasa, Grim Grimoire, Princess Crown) features a female hero with purpose and depth! Granted, these previous heroines, while still exaggerated on account of Kamitani's style, aren't nearly as exaggerated as the Sorceress or Amazon, but each of them are major players in their respective stories. There's a consistent problem in which ANY character with a sexy design gets called out as "objectified", EVEN if they are featured as playable and the point of the game or story is to see them succeed!


I know I'm not the most credible person to speak up on this, and a lot of my credibility is lost just for being a heterosexual adult male, but this is something I am passionate about, and I loathe the circus it has become. I'll continue my thoughts later, as this is a discussion board and not a blog, but this is something I have had to think about long since I was in college.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 06, 2013, 02:50 PM
So for future episodes and to let everyone know what's going on, I'll be posting topics a day or two prior to recording time. I think this way, people can be aware of what's coming up and maybe ask if they can be in that episode. I'm also still open to hear any suggestions for topics for future episodes.

And angie, I was the one who brought it up, and I wanted to talk about it because it seems to be a common issue in media whether its games or comics or tv shows. I didn't make the issue any better this episode, and I know this risked losing respect on my side. I'm learning from this mistake and I'll keep this sort of thing away from discussion in the future.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 06, 2013, 02:58 PM
ABI, while I agree that women in video games are becoming presented in a much better light, I have mixed feelings about sexualizing women, even if they're the protagonist and you're supposed to identify with them and stuff. I'm mostly worried that it will affect our idea of what a women is supposed to be like, both for men and women. I could be completely wrong about that, of course, but that's where my issue is.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: A Bad Idea on May 06, 2013, 03:28 PM
I think one of the problems that arises from this is that the when it comes to press fiascos like Dragon's Crown, the ONLY thing that gets any focus is the sexual aspect, and anything else is completely disregarded. In fact, the more gung-ho whiteknight journalists who flagrantly disregard anything else about the Sorceress EXCEPT her figure are, in a way, actually objectifying her by ignoring everything else she presents as a character, and reducing her to a pair of boobs. Same with the Amazon; naysayers will point out that she's just wearing a metal bikini and that she has a huge butt, but will completely miss the fact that she's built like a brick shithouse and will crush men's skulls between her thighs, like sparrow egg! Now, it's no secret that I like the Sorceress and she's my favorite character in the game, hell I even drew her once. And yes, I do find her sexy on account of her body. However, there are other things I like about her too, based on her art and game footage. Other than that bit about how Sorceress and Kamitani's other well-endowed women maintain a consistent theme of necromancy and granting life to the dead through nurturing (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3011155/da/1367563881268.jpg), there's also a sort of whimsy and playfulness to her animations and her gameplay function. She's not like the cloistered, book-learned Wizard who practices his spells to perfection, she is the enigmatic witch who is in touch with life and nature, such that she grants life to the dead and calls blizzards and thunderstorms to her aid. She is a force of nature (which itself is sometimes referred to as 'Mother Nature', bringing that theme back!) who toys with her foes, turning them into stone or frogs with a wave of her hand, an untouchable beauty to whom the world's natural forces lend their aid. To me, this is really fucking cool, but none of that depth ever gets any focus. There is SO much more to characters designs like this beyond just their bodies and their sexuality, even if it's on the forefront.


For me at least, I feel like the threat on the horizon is that we're going to find ourselves self-censoring things that's deemed "unacceptable" or "immoral" without even seeing depth the way I do. I'm of the opinion that censoring is NEVER the answer, and that if people are so vocal about wanting to see characters represented differently, I feel it would be more constructive to either create those stories/games/comics themselves, or fund it (because crowdfunding is a thing now!). I will always favor the creation of new things over the destruction or censoring of existing things.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Fred v2.0.1 on May 06, 2013, 04:26 PM
I like you, ABI. I don't agree with you, but you make good points.
Would you be happier if it were called 'patriarcal power fantasy' instead of just male? Because I think you're missing the point by critiquing the wording. Not that the wording is perfect, but the product is obviously targeted more strongly towards a male audience. No, not all males will take to this fantasy, no not only men can partake in it, but it gives all the power to the male character in their design and poses, while making the female characters look 'sexy'. And this still looks like a fighting game, so what's sexy got with power when killing monsters?

There is also a difference between power and empowerment. Just because a character is playable or can crush skull in her legs, doesn't make her less objectified. I mean, in the podcast the girls say that a guy getting crush in there would probably die happy. No matter what she can do, she seems to be designed to titillate little boys. It,s one thing to say that people focus too much on that aspect of the characters, but that aspect is kinda shoved in your face.

Now, I haven't played the game, I don't know how the characters are actually portrayed or developped, so for all I know, these could be great characters, but from what I've seen the fertility thing sounds like a rather lame excuse, especially since the characters in the art shown are really not very 'motherly' and really showing off 'the goods', it doesn't so much look like she's cradeling that skull like a baby so much as giving it a boob job in a creepy skeleton porno. If anything, this raises questions about the artist's relation with his mother. :/
And maybe skeletons.
Or is that just a boner joke that got out of control?

I wholeheartedly agree that we shouldn't destroy or censor anyone's art, but I really don't think that's the point (well, maybe it was for some people, but I'd just as passionately argue with them) In my idea, it's much more about being aware of the negative effects things like this can have and just get people to think about it so that they CAN make their own stuff that will help to make changes in the way gender is adressed.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: William_Duel on May 06, 2013, 06:11 PM
Now first I wanna say, I've never been arguing about Dragon's Crown.  I like it and I support it.  And already that is a divisive opinion in of itself but I'll stick to my guns.

I want to address this statement ABI made: I feel that the idea of a catch-all "male power fantasy" is itself a sexist train of thought. This implies that any and all men want to be the big buff guy in a video game, that power and muscles is all that a man aspires to. While society has shown it to be mostly true, it's also unfair to not include men who find power in other things.
See there's something wrong here in that you acknowledge that 'society has shown it to be mostly true'.  The problem is not that there are guys who don't fit this mold because honestly do any of us here do?  (Except me I am sex incarnate.)  The problem is that we have a society that forces us to accept this as the male power fantasy and as something we should strive for.  And I'm not gonna say it's not harmful to guys.  This is plenty harmful and while women have suffered for years with self body images because of idealized barbie images that are pelted at them, men also have body issues with this idea that they have to be shaped like Supermen.  The problem is that we are all told to strive for a world where men are men and tough and strong and stoic and women have to be feminine and dainty and use their feminine wiles to get the guy.  And having a power fantasy is not wrong and neither is a woman wanting to wear makeup, but it's wrong that this idea is forced on us that we have to do and be these things or else we won't be loved or accepted.  And since this message is constant we grow up having the wrong idea of how we should be and how we should feel and how ashamed we should feel if we're not. 

We talk about the AAA games and how they have these consistently sexually objectified females who rarely if ever get to play the main role.  But it's not just limited to games but comics and movies and anywhere big business is.  It's a perpetual cycle where they're protecting their bottom line because that's 'good business' and good business is appealing to this idea of what white males want because they're saying to themselves who else would buy it?  But wouldn't other people want to play a great game with high production values where the main character is different and other people can be allowed to identify and play a different role as well?  Why is it that when gender and race aren't the imperative of the story when it doesn't impact it that a white male is the default?  A game like Mass Effect (which I've never played by the way) does it right in that you can change the main character and their gender and pursue who you want. 

But we've got games like Tomb Raider where the design is improved and likeable and yet the designers of the game have to make her feel vulnerable so the player will want to protect her.  The same can be said of Elizabeth in Bioshock Infinite where she was purposely changed from a more impulsive, strong willed character to a more idealized and meeker form.  And why do so many of these companies refuse to put a woman on the cover?  As if this would hurt their sales and as if people would get the 'wrong idea' about their game?  Take a film like John Carter.  It's adapted from a story called Princess of Mars.  But Disney thought boys wouldn't want to see a movie with the word Princess in it so it became John Carter of Mars.  But then they suddenly decided, well why would ladies see a movie with Mars in the title?  That's too masculine right?  So it was just John Carter.  And you know what?  No one saw the fucking thing because who the hell is John Carter?

And I'll say it again as I've said before, sex is not evil.  Sexualization is not sexism in and of itself.  By denigrating it as such, you're hurting the people you're claiming you want to protect.  You want 'female power fantasy' alongside 'male power fantasy' then that's great and that's how it should be.  You want counterbalance?  That's great, do that.  But why are we all being subjected to the same idea that a woman is a prize to win? 
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Charlie on May 06, 2013, 06:20 PM

Yes you are, come to me baby.

Also Will I agree with your post wholeheartedly. Especially the last two paragraphs. Now have sex with me Will.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 06, 2013, 06:26 PM
CharliexWillyD OMG best pairing gunna go write a fanfic.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Charlie on May 06, 2013, 06:35 PM
CharliexWillyD OMG best pairing gunna go write a fanfic.

Please do, we have been my OTP for a while now.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Puzzlething on May 06, 2013, 09:03 PM
  disclaimer: i do not own william_duel or charlier okay so don't sue me you guys sieriously okay



"Don't go out there Will!"

    William "Underscore" Duel froze in the doorway, his tall masculine form silhouetted against the dying light of the internet prairie. He told himself not to turn around and face the speaker, that it would only make things harder. He knew once he looked into those soft brown eyes he'd lose all sight of anything else.

     "Don't leave me"

     The Duel was a hard man, living in a hard time, but the plaintive cry, though barely more than a whisper, cut deeper into Will's hide than any bullet ever had. He turned despite himself, his vision filling with the delicate form of young Charlie. Around his soft face, his hair flew wildly from distress, and before Will knew it the distance between them had vanished, and there he was smoothing down Charlie's hair, his hand coming to rest in the boy's thick mutton chops.

     " Aw Charlie, now don't be like that. You know this ain't about you." Will said, his eyes filled with concern, " There'd be nothin' prettier than homesteadin' this here stretch of land with you. But how can I keep all that prettiness for myself when there's folks who ain't got nothin' but ugliness to look forward too?" His hand fell from Charlie's face, and he steeled his heart for the long walk back to the door.

      Will wasn't even halfway when the small warmth of Charlie collided into him from behind, fingers digging into his back.

    "But why is it you got to fight the patriarchy William Duel?! Why can't you just leave it to anyone else!?"

     William Duel couldn't answer, couldn't make the words come. So he walked away silently. And as he rode away with his partner, the french gunman LeFred, he felt a ball well up in his throat, and the dust on the wind stung his eyes.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 06, 2013, 09:10 PM
OH MY GOD
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Evi on May 06, 2013, 09:26 PM
Best fanfic.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Dimension on May 06, 2013, 09:31 PM
Even though the topic was SOMEWHAT unrelated (there could have been more talk about sexism in comics) I am just so glad to hear everyone's opinions in the thread. I agree with all most of what Le Fred, Animeshen, Red and a bunch of others have said.

I think it's fine to bring a social issue in the podcast if it relates to comics/void like characters of different race, gender, sexuality, culture, religion ect. Discussions on those sorts of things interest me, but the issue with this one was that it was a lot of talk about Dragon's Crown not being sexist and... yeah, it did pretty much neglect the other side of the argument, which bugs me, but that's all been said and done so I won't go on more about it.

What I'm trying to say is, I personally actually like these kinds of topics so I actually wouldn't discourage them, but I recommend finding a better way to address and talk about them.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Charlie on May 06, 2013, 09:50 PM
I SURE HOPE THERE IS A SEQUEL WHERE THERE IS A THREESOME INVOLVING WILL UNDERSCORE DUEL, CHARLIE (hey thats me), AND PUZZLETHING.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Jiisuri on May 07, 2013, 12:33 AM
My word, that's a loooot of words regarding the sexism topic. I'll just say that you guys got a good point that getting the definition right is important and move on since if I get started on this topic I'll be here all day.

Also, I gotta go see those flipwolf sightings.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 07, 2013, 08:56 AM
PUZZLE YOU IDIOT, THERE WERE NO FLIPWULF MENTIONS IN YOUR FANFIC.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Puzzlething on May 07, 2013, 09:31 AM
GODDAMNIT WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Field Marshal Lionel Forsythe W. Underwood XIII, GBE on May 07, 2013, 09:59 AM
And now a dramatic reading of Puzzlething's fanfic

http://snd.sc/12PZClP

Done rather hastily. I might redo it once I go back home.

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 07, 2013, 10:03 AM
WAIT, IS THAT YOUR VOICE? IS THIS REAL LIFE? I'M DEAD.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Field Marshal Lionel Forsythe W. Underwood XIII, GBE on May 07, 2013, 10:14 AM
WAIT, IS THAT YOUR VOICE? IS THIS REAL LIFE? I'M DEAD.


Yep... A little bit tipsy on the side but yes it is one of my voices.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 07, 2013, 10:16 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcxiojHUAu1ri9yduo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 07, 2013, 10:36 AM
Puzzlething and Underwood, you both need the best awards. This is just...
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Puzzlething on May 07, 2013, 10:39 AM
OH MY GOD THAT MUSIC. I CAN'T, I CAN'T, I JUST CAN'T.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6f14cc0b3ffa623bd6ceb904140efe66/tumblr_mmadyurmRQ1s4z3hko1_500.gif)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: GPS-Device on May 07, 2013, 11:17 AM
I can't handle this.
I'M DEAD. I'M JUST FUCKING DEAD
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Angie on May 07, 2013, 11:59 AM
masterpiece.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Shen on May 07, 2013, 12:54 PM
PFFFFFFFFFFF

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/Animeshen/6vSn8_zpsf8f90c6f.gif) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Animeshen/media/6vSn8_zpsf8f90c6f.gif.html)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Charlie on May 07, 2013, 03:06 PM
jfc i am dead
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 07, 2013, 05:14 PM


So the topics I have lined up for next episode are:

Also going to ask guests what they think could be added/improved on the site to make browsing or comicking more convenient.


If anyone would like to suggest anything for next episode, or maybe interested in coming in for recording, lemme know!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Miss Jetster Fukken Jay ❤︎ on May 07, 2013, 08:30 PM
If I'm right that's 9pm Friday night for me - I think I am actually free at that time this week, would love to come on and talk on those topics and about comics :)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Tofubeast on May 07, 2013, 09:26 PM
depending on work/availability I could possibly do it
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Sabulive on May 07, 2013, 10:11 PM
If Jet is doing it, so would I.

Aussie take over week
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Jiisuri on May 07, 2013, 11:01 PM
High chance of me appearing actually.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Miss Jetster Fukken Jay ❤︎ on May 08, 2013, 07:12 AM
Apparently I'm an idiot because it's 9am SATURDAY for Sabu and I, but that just means I'm even more available. No idea about Sabu.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Wolcik on May 08, 2013, 05:04 PM
As for the same face problem - Steve Dillon doing stuff for Marvel has a trend of giving his heroes the same face - Punisher, Wolverine and Deadpool as far as I remember had the same face and it was really obvious in the close ups - if you look at the picture of the guy you'll notice the resemblance too - this motherfucker is placing his face in marvel comics XD
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Shen on May 08, 2013, 06:04 PM
Bruce Timm, God love him, draws all of his women exactly the same with different hair. They usually even have the same size skirt as each other. Archie Comics does that too- if Betty and Veronica switched hair, would anyone fucking know? (Maybe when Betty started being nasty to everyone they would.) Hell, even I do this, I'm told from various sources. its just... easy to fall into a certain trend. you do something right, you get in a habit to keep doing it I guess....
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Mister Kent on May 08, 2013, 06:52 PM

Don't forget to mention the VoidWiki! ;D
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Charlie on May 08, 2013, 07:28 PM
Same face syndrome: Don't really care much anymore tbh. I do it a lot in my own work, I see a lot of other people do it in theirs, and it really doesn't bother me. I am in it for the visual flair and the over-the-top and everything else like that. As long as each character has a distinctive enough design I'm cool with it. Not to say I don't like variation, as I do like that as well and have been trying to play more with some different body types and proportions as well as some faces with some of my more recent characters. But generally most of the 'same-face' on my end I tend to stamp on 'the main character' of x idea and y idea just out of preference. Some may call it a cop out but I stopped giving a fuck about that.

The webcomic feature: Yeah I'd probably use it. Depends!

What's the best way to get void's name out there?: Make sick comics and post them up elsewhere when you are done and voting is all said and done. The more we put out there that relates back to the site the better. Obviously advertisements have been in the mix lately and I think those will do us good too.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 08, 2013, 08:49 PM
Wow! I totally love you guys for giving your two cents on the topics we'll cover soon!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: William_Duel on May 08, 2013, 09:21 PM
About Same Face Syndrome.
I don't like it and I think people should strive to grow out of it.  I see it as a phase most artists go through because they have yet to develop the diversity in their style from lack of experience and a fear of growing outside of the box.  There are always exceptions and Bruce Timm is one of these.  See the times when Same Face Syndrome are usually acceptable is during animation.  The other times being when an artist's style is extremely abstract and cartoonish.  Comics always deal with the abstract in theory. 

Our drawings are actually symbols representing how we view the world.  Scott McCloud makes has a better explanation in his book understanding comics but basically we can use the most basic symbols to represent a face and we'll understand it as such.  Like Adventure Time is pretty much this, all humanoid faces are this.  And this is purposefully a style that Adventure Time is pulling off.  In the case of Bruce Timm, he is a solely self taught artist who originally was not a comic book artist but purely an animator.  Bruce Timm is an exception and not the rule.  The style that made him famous that originated with Batman the Animated Series was chosen because it was so simple and cut down on costs.  So I'd argue that this stylistic decision was really born out of cost cutting.  But no lie, it looks great and is really cool.  But often this is the case, you'll see a lot of same face syndrome in animation and video games because it's easier to render than drawing lots of different and individual faces. 

I think that as an artist, with the exception of your style being abstract and cartoonish as I mentioned above, artists should strive to go beyond same face.  Because it reflects on our experience and ability as artists and in our ability to design characters and to show diversity in people.  Artists like Tsutomu Nihei get away it because honestly he just can't draw faces.  His background is architecture so he balances highly complex and super detailed environments with super simple anime faces.  He has changed over time but well, if I get into anime and manga that'll be a much longer rambling. 

tl;dr Say no to Same Face Syndrome.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Jiisuri on May 08, 2013, 11:09 PM
Same face syndrome, the source of much agony for me as I hate it when I can't tell characters apart. Of course, it is already proven that characters can be told apart via variation on their overall design even with similar faces. As such I have a hypothesis that the important thing here is variation. To achieve variation, you need to know how to actually vary your characters. To vary your characters, you need to know different features they can have so you can switch them around.

So it all boils down to "can a majority of people tell these guys apart?". If no, you probably might want to switch up the face. Not just the eyes mind you, try other noses or something. And body shapes.

Disregard the above if you're doing an experimental stick figure comic or something where the character variation doesn't matter at all. Also, I would totally use a webcomic feature, maybe with a deadline option for extra drive.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on May 08, 2013, 11:47 PM
I agree with William_Duel

It bugs me like an evasive mosquito by the ear when I see multiple characters with the same face in the same comic, and I try to avoid it in the folks I draw as much as I can personally perceive. Sometimes if I manage to catch two characters I'm drawing look too similar to each other I will go out of my way to rearrange the faces and try and stick to that new standard. Like Kent, I've collected a 'bag' of sets of eyes, eyebrows, noses, lips and chin/jawbone structures that I tend to use in different variations.

 For anyone trying to break out of it themselves: I don't know if this'll work for you, but for me, I started to break out when I was drawing different styles, trying to mimic them as best I could. Everything from Toriyama to Timm and Murakami, and Arakawa, and my friend Tazio Bettin whose art I really admire. As I returned to my own style, I found myself adding lingering elements from the other styles I had tried, in a way filling the gaps I once had with new pieces.

Ultimately though, I think once you try to actively address it, you'll start to improve quicker than you'll realize. It's just a bit of discipline to rewire your brain into considering it.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Wolcik on May 09, 2013, 01:53 AM
The same face syndrome is strong in eastern influenced style since it's never done by looking at a real faces, but by doing circle and triangles which schematically. Not saying that this is wrong and a different set of eyes isn't making a different face but I personally feel like it's lacking in soul department a bit.

As for the webcomics - I'd be doing my own right now if only I knew where to host it.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 09, 2013, 06:46 AM
As for the webcomics - I'd be doing my own right now if only I knew where to host it.
Why not Zoidberg host it on EnterVOID.com?
COMING SOON TO THE WEBSITE YOU ARE CURRENTLY ON NEAR YOU
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Fred v2.0.1 on May 09, 2013, 08:22 AM
I'd use the fuck out of that webcomic option. I have a really hard time motivating myself and I can't work without set goals, but never missed a Void deadline. This site is just magical like that, it gives me just what I need to get shit DONE.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Shen on May 09, 2013, 01:32 PM
I'd use the fuck out of that webcomic option. I have a really hard time motivating myself and I can't work without set goals, but never missed a Void deadline. This site is just magical like that, it gives me just what I need to get shit DONE.

I was just about to say "my webcomic is already hosted somewhere and I haven't updated it in a year anyhow so I probably would not use this feature" but then I read LeFred's comment and thought "holy shit you're right, I've never missed a Void deadline and I stopped drawing my webcomic when I joined Void, maybe if I MOVE COMIC TO VOID I would actually update it now and again MIND=BLOWN" so I have some thinking to do
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 09, 2013, 01:35 PM
Note to self: definitely make a deadline feature for webcomics.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Mister Kent on May 09, 2013, 02:55 PM
Re: Webcomic deadline...

I'd be all for that ~ would it be like we choose what days our comic updates? Like "7 days and 04 hours until new page!"

Certainly would be cool, and we can all keep each other motivated as we always do :)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 09, 2013, 03:34 PM
Yeah, you'd choose when you want each deadline to be. Any suggestions on the best way for you to choose that would be most welcome. (For instance, would you want to just say that your comic updates weekly, or would you want to set a specific deadline for each page?)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Miss Jetster Fukken Jay ❤︎ on May 09, 2013, 04:06 PM
Porque no los dos? Would it be possible to implement both those methods?
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 09, 2013, 04:17 PM
Sure! I'll plan on it!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Mister Kent on May 09, 2013, 04:37 PM
That would be swell! ;D
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Wolcik on May 10, 2013, 05:57 PM
Is there a criteria for the webcomic? Should it be Void related? I prefer one day for the webcomics to go up since this way viewers can expect an upload on a certain day, even if the page was brough sooner.

As for future incubator feedback, I'd like you to motivate people in the incubator to script their intro pages if they have trouble posting anything more than bio and design sheet.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: The Bent One on May 10, 2013, 08:54 PM
You all are in for a treat with episode 21...
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Angie on May 10, 2013, 10:27 PM
Web comics do not have to be Void related.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 11, 2013, 06:18 AM
Is there a criteria for the webcomic? Should it be Void related?
There are absolutely no criteria for webcomics. Hosting your comic on VOID would be just like hosting it with keenspot.com or drunkduck.com or any of those other random places... except VOID is way cooler than those ones. :)
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Pennydox on May 12, 2013, 09:55 PM
question:
What do you think about fanart--legal? illegal? Should it be banned?
Thoughts on regulating it. I'd like to hear about people who both agree and disagree on this topic.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 12, 2013, 10:06 PM
question:
What do you think about fanart--legal? illegal? Should it be banned?
Thoughts on regulating it. I'd like to hear about people who both agree and disagree on this topic.

Oooo I like that topic!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Charlie on May 12, 2013, 11:21 PM
Everyone knows my stance on fanart - cool if you're not selling it. But fuck selling it.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Red on May 12, 2013, 11:25 PM
I'm selling fan art of your face .. $5 each, yo.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Bobo on May 13, 2013, 08:32 AM
I'm selling fan art of your face .. $5 each, yo.
I'LL TAKE A MILLION
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: Mister Kent on May 13, 2013, 01:44 PM
Everyone knows my stance on fanart - cool if you're not selling it. But fuck selling it.

I concur with Charles.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 20 FOR REAL!!
Post by: The Bent One on May 13, 2013, 01:52 PM
Everyone knows my stance on fanart - cool if you're not selling it. But fuck selling it.

Yup. That's about right.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 13, 2013, 10:27 PM
VC:SI EPISODE 21 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E%2021.mp3)


Bent, Jets, Tox and I talk about the topics I already posted earlier this week. AND we got a new segment called "GET TO WORK, BOBO", where we have a special guest cheering our favorite Admin on. Who could it be? You gotta listen to find out!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Red on May 13, 2013, 11:08 PM
Definite no to the void shop, unfortunately. In order to advertise on deviant art, they must evaluate our site. Last time they evaluated us we had a shop, and they gave us higher rates because they deemed us a commercial site. It would be cool, but hurtful to our wallet. Sacrifice the shop to get more advertising for our money.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: The Bent One on May 14, 2013, 08:18 AM
YEEEEeEeEeEeeeSSsssss!

Definite no to the void shop, unfortunately. In order to advertise on deviant art, they must evaluate our site. Last time they evaluated us we had a shop, and they gave us higher rates because they deemed us a commercial site. It would be cool, but hurtful to our wallet. Sacrifice the shop to get more advertising for our money.
That's a very interesting bit of info, Red. I still think it would be good to have something like we have back in VOID 4.0 where it had links to drawing materials, how-to books, and general stuff that would help people level up their art game.

Not selling it, just linking to it.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Pennydox on May 14, 2013, 09:35 AM
The fanart thing never bothered me until a year ago. I know I draw fanart (sorry Charlie), but selling enormous masses of it and being unable to draw from your own creative mind really ticks me. But at a convention, you need something eye grabbing, and a familiar character does the trick, even though no one will ever approach and buy that piece from you. But then again, we're doing fanart of each other's Void characters and I assume we all love it, so it does have aesthetics. I would rather see an artist at artist alley sell a majority of their own original pieces than see the entire table(s) filled with nothing but pictures from another series. But a few fanart drawings are good....
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Atomicfish on May 14, 2013, 12:43 PM
I agree with Pocky in that fanart can bring in eyeballs, but I think doing your own thing, standing out, and making good art keeps people invested your work.
I was wondering how ya'll feel about Chad Sells' method. He's a great artist, who does fanart for the show "Ru Paul's Drag Race" and worked on the game "Dragopolis". He sells prints of them, but he asked permission from each queen before doing it.

Do you think that having permission makes selling fanart acceptable?
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: The Bent One on May 14, 2013, 01:51 PM
Do you think that having permission makes selling fanart acceptable?

I'd say so. That's the only time it might be acceptable, since the original creator of the subject knows what you're doing and has approved of it. Anything else is going behind their back on it.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: William_Duel on May 14, 2013, 01:58 PM
I agree with Pocky in that fanart can bring in eyeballs, but I think doing your own thing, standing out, and making good art keeps people invested your work.
I was wondering how ya'll feel about Chad Sells' method. He's a great artist, who does fanart for the show "Ru Paul's Drag Race" and worked on the game "Dragopolis". He sells prints of them, but he asked permission from each queen before doing it.

Do you think that having permission makes selling fanart acceptable?

Well from a legal standpoint that is literally what would make it acceptable versus an illegal derivative work.  There are really only two exceptions.  If you wanna do it the legal way, you contact the original rights holder and ask them if it is all right.  The second way is if what you're creating is a parody.  Parody is labelled under fair use part of copyright law and therefore enables you some protection.  Tracing is straight up illegal and derivative works like fanart are in that grey area of "the original holders probably don't want to spend time going after a small fish like you but what you're doing is morally objectionable."

I remembered one more exception.  If the profits you make from said fanart go entirely to donations.  Like for charitable causes. 
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: The Bent One on May 14, 2013, 02:13 PM
Slightly off topic, I just want to let everyone know that what I said / talked about the void ad campaign is not to be taken completely as fact just yet.
Also, Obviously more people are involved than just me and Red. Red gets mad props for this whole thing, she's been planning it for a super long time.

Whatever does end up happening and whoever else does get involved is up to Red and the other mods.

Basically, don't take what I said as fact, since I had kind of no idea what I was really talking about.

Other than that, ENJOY THE SHOW!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Pennydox on May 14, 2013, 08:29 PM
ah, just listening to the vcast right now. Vistaprint's business cards are super cheap in quality, and price is not as great as you think.
www.gotprint.com --customized cards, 500 for 8.50, and 2,500 for $30.30, plus shipping (which is about 7-10 dollars).
Great deals with excellent quality.

Postcards: overnightprints.com --It's DEFINITELY not overnight prints, as it takes a while. But the quality is incredible, and postcards always have a sale. Just have to find the right sale.

Local Bay Area printing place: Replica Copy. Less than a dollar for a super high quality color print...i think the size is 12x14. it's very, very, very good.


Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Angie on May 14, 2013, 10:22 PM
gotprint also ships crazy fast.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: TINMAN on May 15, 2013, 01:01 PM
Good episodes lately, lots of content and intelligent conversation with well spoken guests. I would recommend if you're going to discuss controversy of any type that you try to represent both sides of the argument even if that means someone's playing devil's advocate. It was kind of a problem during the "digital vs traditional" debate when everyone on the cast is digital.

As for future topics of discussion:

Monthly rates on the Adobe Creative Suite Cloud should get the blood boiling.
Summer Comicons
Stripsearch/Void webcomics
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: The Bent One on May 15, 2013, 01:11 PM
I'd actually love to hear the discussion on something that was brought up in this episode: What makes a character popular?

Also, What things to avoid when making a character? Maybe some discussion on balancing out characters that would otherwise end up as OP or gods.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Pennydox on May 15, 2013, 04:49 PM
oh my gosh, i can't believe I forgot to ask this. There's a crazy rage on all my LinkedIn groups about this topic, and I'd love all your opinions on this, because I really have considered doing it almost a year ago:

What is your opinion on comics that are on Kindle--now that there are programs that help out making these digital comics for sale, would it be the future? I'd like opinions on investing time doing one, or if any of you have done it before, how the process works.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 15, 2013, 04:57 PM
So the next topics we'll cover for this weeks recording are:

-Fanart! Sweet to do, but not to sell?
-What makes a Void Character stick as memorable on the site?
-How to not make an Original Character. (Possibly add some tips for those hopefuls in the incubator, I'm sure they'd like that!).




Pocky: Personally I think it's a wonderful thing to happen for most people. Comics on Kindles are, I think, economical since there's no resources being made to print them out, and no one needs to know what you're reading. On a negative side though, Looking at a screen all the time/needing to recharge/not having an actual copy of a comic can bother others.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Pocketmouse on May 16, 2013, 02:14 AM
I wrote my dissertation on e-publishing and webcomics so if you take up that topic in a future cast I'd be happy to join in for it.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: A Bad Idea on May 16, 2013, 06:37 AM
A discussion about character design? Count me in.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on May 16, 2013, 06:52 AM
Ooooh! I'm gonna look forward to this one :D
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Rah on May 16, 2013, 11:24 AM
Ooooh! I'm gonna look forward to this one :D

Ditto!!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 16, 2013, 06:26 PM
OKAY SO, I have to change the recording date to Saturday, as I'm going to Toronto with my dad tomorrow. I'm sure this won't effect release date, as it's a long weekend on my side and I have plenty of time to edit and release the episode on sunday or monday, but if anything I'll let you guys know. Just giving a heads up!
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Jiisuri on May 16, 2013, 11:27 PM
Count me in if I happen to wake up extremely early.
Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Evi on May 17, 2013, 10:30 PM
man I wish I knew about making a ton of pages beforehand for a steady webcomic schedule! good advice!
definitely had really irregular updates on my last one before I stopped updating it completely... then again it's my first webcomic ever and I had absolutely no idea what I was doing. I do hope to get back working on it again someday though.

Looking forward to the next Vcast!

Title: Re: VC:SI Episode 21!!
Post by: Sabulive on May 18, 2013, 01:27 AM
Everyone's voice sounds so kawaii
Title: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 20, 2013, 12:03 PM
EPISODE 22 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E22.mp3)


ABI and Nina are in to talk about whatever we talked about on the post I made earlier!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on May 20, 2013, 08:41 PM
Finally got a chance to catch up on these, didn't realize that y'all were still critiquing since I didn't see it in the previews; thanks for the extra tips and tricks on my stuff~

as for the recent episode I agree with most of the consensus spoken on original/incubator characters
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Fred v2.0.1 on May 20, 2013, 08:47 PM
hahaha, I like that your only two rules of don't for characters are god modes and self inserts. Because one of the most fun I've had just messing with a character was with my god mode self insert in the last SDT.

Also, I don't think the previous podcast got as far as 22 episodes. You're not just sitting in anymore guys, you are the Voidcast. ;)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: UmbrellaFrog on May 21, 2013, 05:37 PM
Great episode! Thanks for the critique! Little anecdote: I was actually redrawing the homerun panel when the deadline rolled over.

I think selling fanart is fine as long as it isn't mass produced. Anything that could potentially make a lot of money from intellectual property should be left to the owner of said property.
And posting fanart online to be seen by everyone has the double bonus of advertising the fanartist to the community and advertise (although to a much smaller degree) the original work to people who may not have heard of it otherwise.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: G.Lo on May 22, 2013, 07:03 AM
Thanks so much for the critique! I won't lie, coloring has never been my strong suit so I will definitely reconsider my color choices.

I'm glad you guys discussed fan art. I'm always paranoid about selling any or offering fan art as commission options. Still feel a little iffy about it on a legal standpoint soooo for selling ill stick to avoiding!

Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: seevah on May 23, 2013, 02:39 AM
Would it be too much to upload these on itunes?  Just asking.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Red on May 23, 2013, 05:38 AM
Would it be too much to upload these on itunes?  Just asking.

I would also love if that happened :)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 23, 2013, 01:18 PM
Topics for next cast:

-Tournaments in void, do we have plenty of them, or not enough happening?



- Deadlines are scary as hell. what do you do to stay organized between comics and social life before the final hour?


-Any tips or tricks to share when it comes to drawing complex shots in comics? SHARE YOUR SECRETS.


If anyone's interested in coming in for this recording, lemme know!

edit: I'm looking into making the podcast available through itunes! I'll keep you posted on that.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Red on May 23, 2013, 02:06 PM
Ahh, I wanna be on one day, but we are doing the mod cast tomorrow and I don't want to be on ALL OF THE THINGS.

what do you do to stay organized between comics and social life before the final hour?
Quote
I have to eliminate my social life completely to be able to complete a battle. I just don't have that much free time.

With the Tag Team tournament, I only allowed myself to watch Game of Thrones.... other than that I didn't really do much else other than work and draw.

You pretty much have to learn how to say "no" to things if you have a deadline. I try to set mini-deadlines for myself like "have 4 pages done by Thursday" etc.
It's best for my friends to just think of me as dead while I'm in a battle. They understand at this point though lol.

Also, you guys make me insane when you use school as an excuse for a poopy battle. It's not like you didn't know that finals were coming. Prioritize ... decline challenges if you've go more important stuff to do!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: seevah on May 23, 2013, 02:20 PM
can I record and talk about what i learned after finishing 7 years and 3 art schools with 2 associates and 1 bfa :'D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 23, 2013, 02:32 PM
can I record and talk about what i learned after finishing 7 years and 3 art schools with 2 associates and 1 bfa :'D


Sure! lemme know your skype name via PM
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Angie on May 23, 2013, 05:14 PM
I pretty much have absolutely no social life outside of drawing and coloring comics. I bleed comics.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Red on May 23, 2013, 05:29 PM
Angie and I text each other pictures of our cats. That is our social life.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Sabulive on May 23, 2013, 05:33 PM
When it comes to completing battles, I first make sure that University stuff is not in the way.

Then I plan out how to (hopefully) complete my battle within the deadline given, like: First two days I dedicate to a script and thumbnailing and then every day after that, I try and draw at least 5 panels a day.

I also have a bitchin' internet blocker and people who bully and harass me into doing work.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on May 23, 2013, 05:34 PM
what do you do to stay organized between comics and social life before the final hour?

I have a lot of personal responsibilities. A girlfriend, a large dog, my little brother and mother who lives close by and we have a close relationship, so there are things in my social life I can't cut out. And last year I started a new job, editing in a small video production company that has me working from sunrise to sunset on a good week, and upwards of 60 hours on particularly hectic weeks. It was starting this job that led me to leaving void last year, after two consecutive failures in my comic production. So when I have a comic I must draw, I do a few things:

1) try to cut off social activity to the bare necessities, and do my damndest to avoid getting sucked into sweet sweet distractions like games and the internet

2) sleep? what the hell is that? start drawing at 8 PM, keep drawing until 4 AM or later, multiple days at a time. Sometimes, don't sleep at all. Recently I've been challenging myself with shorter deadlines to try and train myself into speedier drawing and fortunately it's working.

3) pray to dear Allah that work does not decide to fuck me over that week with a last-minute client edit that leaves me in the office all night.

4) be thankful that my friends and loved ones are as understanding as they are with the amount of time I shut myself away from the world working on this stuff for the sole purpose of improving.

Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Pennydox on May 23, 2013, 06:03 PM
just listened to this thing, and I wanna note that here in void, hoodies and shaggy hair is in fashion right now!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: William_Duel on May 24, 2013, 09:02 AM
Sorry to backtrack a bit, but back on that idea of fan works...

http://neil-gaiman.tumblr.com/post/21746253134/neil-gaimans-opinion-on-fanfiction

I was reading Neil Gaiman's opinion on fanfiction which probably pretty much applies to stuff like fanart too.  I'm a big Gaiman fan so I respect his opinion and it's interesting hearing what a well respected creator thinks.  I think people should take the time to read what he says and take most of it to heart.  Though there was an incident and I do recall it vaguely and in my opinion it shows that ugly entitled side of fandom:
"I think I told someone who asked if writing fanfiction would be good for “honing writing skills” that of course it was, but if that was what he was writing for, he’d have to start writing his own stuff eventually. This was, I was told at length and by many many people, a terrible thing to say."

But to highlight what I think is the most important idea to take away from this:

I noticed the other day that JK Rowling doesn’t mind Harry Potter fan fiction... On the other hand I consider it an author’s right to not want fan fiction and do everything the author can to stamp it out, if that’s what he or she wants. It’s one of those “your mileage may vary” things.


Basically do it if you want, some people don't mind but keep in mind it's all illegal/grey area and authors are well within their right to come after you.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 22 IS HERE!!
Post by: Angie on May 24, 2013, 09:19 AM
Most authors don't have time to see who all is writing fanfiction of their stuff, and it could be career suicide to go after them for doing it. Of course there will always be the crazies like Riyoko Ikeda who is even strongly against people cosplaying as her characters. Part of the reason it took about 40 years for Rose of Versailles to come to America is she's so strict about how her stuff is handled.

It's fine to do fanart, but it's important to do art besides fanart too so you don't lose your own voice. I'm not against people selling fanart as long as it's not like mass produced. I completely understand it can be the only way to make money at cons and I'm not going to dislike people for doing it. In a perfect world I wish people would give other artists the time of day when they use their own characters and ideas, but I know people are always going to gravitate towards what they know.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 26, 2013, 04:42 PM
VCAST EPISODE 23 IS HERE
 (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E23.mp3)

Joining me this week is Bechans, Galvo, and Underwood!


Edit: Videos mentioned were:


The Coil Technique (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eJWLaDSNBAI)


Blind artist (http://www.wimp.com/blindpaint/)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Red on May 26, 2013, 04:50 PM
OMFG underwood
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Mister Kent on May 26, 2013, 05:16 PM
I have officially cast Underwood as my internal monologue's voice ;D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Puzzlething on May 26, 2013, 05:27 PM
Underwood has been the narrator to my life since that amazing fanfic recording. I can't wait to listen to this, I only hope I don't get so entranced I can't get any work done.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 26, 2013, 06:44 PM
Underwood's voice comes with a gift and a curse. Everyone who hears it enters bliss, but also makes you forget what you're working on and makes you wanna listen to him talk all day.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Jiisuri on May 27, 2013, 03:51 AM
Underwood's voice has destroyed my productivity. orz

Also, good way to do complex perspective: Learn to construct a perspective grid. Once you learn the way of the grid, you can just go wild with it.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: G.Lo on May 27, 2013, 07:30 AM
ohmygod. Dat coiling technique.

THAT IS LIFE CHANGING.

Gonna be soooo nice to do Aurora's horns now ;;
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on May 27, 2013, 08:05 AM
FINALLY. IT WORKS FOR ME.

And for Uncle Underwood's voice it was totally worth it.

AND GALVO AND BECS OFC <33
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Rah on May 27, 2013, 04:56 PM
underwood sounds more english than me fgfhfgffg. Also I want his voice on like my GPS or something

ALSO UNDERWOOD when you were chatting about drawing on the loo and said "lucid dreaming" I thought you said "loo-seat dreaming" and I laughed quite hard away from the mic
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Fred v2.0.1 on May 27, 2013, 10:19 PM
"LeFred obviously knows what he's doing" is a dirty lie and I will not stand for such slander, young lady.

Also if there is a 'Void Idol', the prize should be to marry Underwood. If that couldn't get people motivated to make the greatest tournament ever, then the world is probably very very wrong.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 28, 2013, 01:15 AM
"LeFred obviously knows what he's doing" is a dirty lie and I will not stand for such slander, young lady.
I am ashamed ;-;


ALSO another tip I forgot to add onto that episode is that, if you find a pose too hard to draw/get right, you can always look in the mirror and do the pose you're tackling. Looking at yourself and feeling how your body moves/flexes helps a lot in the long run.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: A Bad Idea on May 28, 2013, 02:17 AM
re: How do you balance art and life?

While there's certainly no "life" to get in my way, there's always laziness and lack of motivation to stem my productivity. I handle it in an extremely peculiar way; because I'm a person who loves to multitask, I actually allow myself to get distracted for periods of time in order to unwind and then get back to work. While I certainly can work for hours on end, after a while it'll start feeling like "work" and less like play, and then I risk my work getting stale and lacking life. By balancing work and play in small sections, I keep each experience fresh and interesting. I reward an hour of drawing/animating with an hour of gaming, then I reward an hour of gaming with an hour of drawing/animation. This way, I constantly have a reward to look forward to: "Finish lining this page and then I can boot up a game" "Finish this quest chain and you can get back to animating" and so on. This is not likely to work with anyone other than me, but that's how I get most of my productivity going.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 01, 2013, 01:07 AM
Oh yeah forgot to update and say no podcast this week. Got caught up with rush jobs at my work and they need me to work on recording dates. NEXT WEEK THOUGH.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 06, 2013, 06:31 PM
Hey guys! this weeks topics are gonna be:

- PPT is up! who're you cheering for?


- What influences have you gained since you joined void? (on-site or off)

- Connecting your characters arcs with other artists characters to build a sense of community or fly solo (Thanks, hatabatta!)




I'll be recording either tomorrow or saturday at 8pm. Depends since I might get caught up on a few IRL things here. If you're interested in coming in for this recording, lemme know!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: seevah on Jun 07, 2013, 11:01 PM
Realized did say who my influences currently are outside of void are because I forgot

mitsuru adachi
bryan lee omalley
motoki utomaru
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Charlie on Jun 07, 2013, 11:28 PM
- PPT is up! who're you cheering for?

I cannot answer this >:O


- What influences have you gained since you joined void? (on-site or off)

On site Sheldon's stuff and James' stuff are both amazing to me and inspirational as to how they make their comics. Kenneth Rocafort too!. Off site I have since discovered the works of Hiroyuki Imaishi and Takeshi Koike in greater detail than before I joined in 2009 (I was only active here really starting in 2010 though) and got deeper into Joe Mad's general style as well. Most of my influences tend to show through my work. I'd say Toru Nakayama and Megaman stuff but I've been digging that stuff for years before VOID :P. I also discovered Battle Angel/ Yukito Kishiro's work as well.

- Connecting your characters arcs with other artists characters to build a sense of community or fly solo (Thanks, hatabatta!)

Fly solo. I feel I have more flexibility to do the cool stuff I want this way and as cool as it is to have an overall kind of VOID canon, I also find it boring when everyone is using it. That isn't meant to be an insult or anything it's just how I kind of feel about a strong overall canon, and is actually kind of reverse on how I felt when I first joined. I had been doing WFA prior to VOID which was a shared canon and eventually I got kinda tired of having things set in the same place and pushed hard for a totally new reset when the new site for WFA was launched.

While I may utilize a city setting and whatnot in my comics still here, it isn't VOID city and that alone frees me up to define the places in my comics how I see fit and really call it my own. I do like to take into account other characters backgrounds and events when I fight them, but as a general overall scale I don't like VOID events impacting my stuff anymore. Its not that the ideas are bad - I just like doing my own thing.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Pennydox on Jun 08, 2013, 09:38 AM
PPT is up! who're you cheering for?
>I didn't even submit my already-designed princess character, which sucked. I'll root for everyone who doesn't default on the first two rounds.

What influences have you gained since you joined void? (on-site or off)
>After joining Void, I thought the impossible couldn't be accomplished. But after seeing artists like Majikura and Angie, my confidence in comics have increased dramatically. Regarding outside of Void, every year I meet two artists at a specific convention called Big WOW! Con. I meet with Tone Rodriguez and Toshio Maeda, and each one of them gauges my progress and  gives me about two sentences of wise advice that change my life.

Connecting your characters arcs with other artists characters to build a sense of community or fly solo
Both, in a specific way. Solo leaves a Cie La Vie kind of feeling (I think that's the term?) where it's just another day in their life, kicking ass. But that also means the character's story or personality might not change because there's no development. Not always good, not always bad either.

But I feel a character arc that works to change the other character for another comic is good...I think the appropriate term would be a raison d'être, or catalyst, or some sort of awakening of the character. For example, Satin was defeated by Lady Vanity and put in her school. Or Mammon has a flashback. Or well....a character dies. I like change of characters based on only one or two battles, but not have to rely on a giant series of battles back and forth with the same characters and different battles to tell me what's going on.

However, something so extreme that may change the lives of everyone's comic based on one comic(if they wish to follow it) might not be the best way to go...like Caelum City cut into three character's territory. I think Hiemie's TTT story arc might be an exception to this because of the character's personality and Hiemie already ruled Void (sorta?) and since this was his last comic, a lot of us knew something extreme was going to happen anyways. But I wonder what all the hobo characters in Void are gonna be like now. The Armageddon is an exception to that too, because several other artists/characters have agreed on screwing the city over beforehand and we all knew it was coming.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Jun 08, 2013, 03:44 PM
LOOKIT POCKY LAYING SOME FRENCH ON US

PPT is up! who're you cheering for?
EVERYONE who doesn't default in Round 1, but especially our new artists! Welcome! I hope you kick all kinds of ass ;D

What influences have you gained since you joined void? (on-site or off)
The ones I found through this site: KR, James, Amazingdavid, Angie, and Jho are ones who've gone pro that I marvel at their works. From off-site: I discovered a few new favorite artists since joining VOID. Bryan Lee O'Malley (Scott Pilgrim), Cliff Chiang (Wonder Woman), Becky Cloonan (Demo), and Rafael Albuquerque (American Vampire) immediately come to mind as the main ones.

Connecting your characters arcs with other artists characters to build a sense of community or fly solo

When it comes to VOID, I'm all for characters interacting and collaboration with other creators. That's the fun of the site for me--when I want to do comics set in my own settings apart from Void City I will just put them in a webcomic or something. enterVoid is where I come to play in the sandbox with the other kids and see what messed-up sandcastles we can create together.

I like that we don't force anyone to follow any sort of "canon" here, as it adds more freedom and wider appeal. But my FAVORITE Void comics are the ones that build on past comics and reference each other and have appearances by more than one Void character in them. I love spotting Special Friend in the background of stories, or counting ubiquitous Flipwulf appearances, or writing in references to such legends as Paddy McBastard (he appears in one of my upcoming comics!)

The only possible problem I can foresee is if interconnected character arcs on the site become too "closed off" for new readers, where the backstory is so dense that new people can't get into it. I don't think we're near that point yet, because there's actually very little in the history of the "Void City" setting that's 100% nailed down. Also, it wouldn't be a problem for me because I love rich backstory.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Jun 08, 2013, 04:09 PM
PPT is up! who're you cheering for?

MYSELF Even though I'm not even in it but shush

What influences have you gained since you joined void? (on-site or off)

Everyone on Void is a huge influence to me, but in particular I gotta say Drasticfantastic, Tinman, Kinu, Becs, Delya, Bl00chikin, anndd the list rolls on. Off -site influences vary from the Tank Girl comic artists such as Jamie Hewlett, Rufus Dayglo and Jim Mahfood, to Jeff Smith, Mawil, Bryan O'Malley, etc etc etc.

Connecting your characters arcs with other artists characters to build a sense of community or fly solo

My answer is pretty obviously going to be connecting characters - I absolutely love it and it's one of the biggest site appeals to me, as much as I know Void doesn't really have a "cannon" it doesn't mean that my character can't. When connecting characters arcs together I feel that characters create casts instead of just cameos, and on the whole I just find it enjoyable and a lot of fun.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Wei Ingnan on Jun 08, 2013, 06:26 PM
...on the topic of community and VOID shared storyline;...did everyone just up and forget about the heavyweight title belt?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Jun 08, 2013, 07:24 PM
I for one have not, and plan on taking it from Pandora sometime in the future ;D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on Jun 09, 2013, 12:15 AM
- PPT is up! who're you cheering for?

Princess Loafmuffin of Butterbean, who is waiting patiently at the final round with a face full of cute (and death rays) for the "finalists"... *maniacal laugh*

Actually, I'm rooting for Dinosaur Princess and Pigeon Princess


- What influences have you gained since you joined void? (on-site or off)


On-site influences:
Angieness
LeFred
MyHatsEatPeople
Felle2thou

But those are just the main ones. Really, every time I draw a character from an artist with a different style I learn something new even if it's in increments.

recent Off-site influences:
Bruce Timm
Some Disney movies
Gendy Tartakovsky

The more I drew here in void, the more I knew I wanted to try and break from some of the manga style I first came in with. I'm not totally out of it, but I've been able to develop a more unique personal style thanks to this place.


- Connecting your characters arcs with other artists characters to build a sense of community or fly solo


Uh, YES to the connecting, if it isn't obvious already with what I've done with Arena and Miller thus far. Collabing in any sense I have found to be the funnest part of Void for me. Sure I can appreciate a good non-canon comic here and there, but I love building characters which means building their lives, and the people in them. It helps give 3-dimensionality IMO and can also spice up a storyline or be the beginnings of a brand new one with unexpected contributions from other characters (like ledes having my NPC's arm ripped off to start the Set saga)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Pennydox on Jun 09, 2013, 01:34 AM
Oh man, I forgot one thing about character story arcs that will be memorable--scar matches. Or double scar matches. Always ends up with a new looking character :D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Angie on Jun 09, 2013, 08:30 AM
- Connecting your characters arcs with other artists characters to build a sense of community or fly solo

I'm all about the collabs and always have been. Collaborating on Void really helped me a lot with my professional career because it taught me how to work with others. So because of that, I strongly feel that people should at the very least do a few collabs in their time at Void if they're considering pursuing comics on a professional level. (even if you intend on just flying solo and doing a book on your own, you still have to interact with an editor) I do miss collabing with people on Void since I no longer have time to battle and I've been out of the loop so I don't really have anyone to make a collab BB with.

Even when people aren't straight up collabing, I think it's cool when people connect their stories like the days of the VCPD or the recent Void getting destroyed. While Void does not and never will have a canon, I like that it gives the site a stronger sense of community when you see a bunch of artists playing off each other and including events from each other's comics and storylines.

It's just important that people remember the power of recap pages so new readers won't be thrown into the story without any idea of what's going on. Just don't have a 10 page essay on your recap page, since people won't read it.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Stplmstr on Jun 09, 2013, 09:58 AM
PPt
I gotta see the first round first, just the characters is not a lot to go off of and I am a bigger fan of good storytelling than characters themselves so whomever really owns that first round will have me rooting for them :)

Influences
Too many, Jing, James, Marley, Sheldon, Fuu (<-- Love that guy I really miss Crazy Samurai and Basil) and plenty more. I want to add though that one of the things that I have been influenced by from void the most is the burn. This place has always been a revolving door of new people, different styles and theories on comic making ect But everybody has a passion for making comics and drawing and that youthful vigor and drive that comes out of void always reminds me to stoke my fires and make sure I am doing my best to burn as brightly :D

Connecting- I like the "canon" of void, not in a didactic"everyone must follow what I have decided is the right thing!!!" but in the way it forces you to really stretch your creative muscles in a way that often times artist don't when just working on their own comics. Having a framework to work with can force an artist to have to come up with creative, character motivated storylines. They can't just do whatever they want, they have to figure out what would throw these characters together, what circumstances would create a situation that would have them either work together or against each other, how would those characters react to each other etc. And a characters past comics gives you a bit of a guide to how someone else's character would act, react and feel about those situations. So even if it doesn't fit 100% what that other artist would have done it makes sense within the characters story and in the grander scheme starts to make them into people with wants, needs, feelings and a history. That is , to me, why beyond battles are so great they help provide more of that info and life to a character and I really think those things should be taken into account and not ignored just because the artist pre decided what their story would be and just slotted in whomever accepted their challenge. It should matter that you are fighting Angie, Charlie, James or anyone else and your story should reflect the differences in fighting each of those people :)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: William_Duel on Jun 09, 2013, 01:11 PM
Did you ever address in any of the podcasts the topic of "How can we make the site more accommodating to writers and regular readers?"
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Fred v2.0.1 on Jun 09, 2013, 02:00 PM
Wasn't there a clause that if the Heavyweight title belt wasn't defended in over a year then there would be an other tournament to get it back into circulation? I vaguely remember there being something like that maybe...
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: William_Duel on Jun 09, 2013, 05:11 PM
The problem is that a lot of the stipulations ended up being pretty vague though I think around 6 months of inactivity on the site ended up in forfeiture.  The hope was that the belt could be circulated again through other means because a whole new Heavyweight Tournament is a pretty big event.  Right now the seat is technically vacant.  The 2011 champion was TODK's PANDORA.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 23!!
Post by: Qyzex on Jun 09, 2013, 06:28 PM
Who I'm rooting for in PPT: Everyone who goes up against Sixtem. He's great, and I love seeing people step it up to destroy him. Also because fuck that guy ;D

Influences: Early on when I first joined void, my influences were Delya and Lysol (the latter being the reason I joined). Lately my influences have been Skottie Young, Guillaume Singelin, Leslie Hung, Alessandro Barbucci, and many others.

connecting characters, stories, whatever, or going solo: I tried connecting stories and such, and it's fine and all, but going solo allows for so much more freedom, so I go with that.
Title: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 09, 2013, 09:52 PM
Episode 24 has arrived! (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCSI%20E24.mp3)


This episode has Kura, Seevah and Tox talking about those topics I posted earlier PLUS another topic:


"Are people scoring comics based on how long they expected it to be?"
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on Jun 10, 2013, 09:07 AM
Cool cast

I completely agree with Kura, the time it took to make the pages of a comic should be an after-voting observation, not determine the quality of the comic. I've voted in favor of many comics who had a crazy short amount of pages, because they were just a better comic. I don't care if the comic took seven weeks to make and is 3 pages, if those 3 pages change my life in some transcendent way from their quality, page count is irrelevant. It's like grading a short film poorly because its only 6 minutes long.

That being said, there is a clear different between a SHORT comic and an UNFINISHED comic. If 7 week comic is 3 pages because its incomplete and the last page is a sketch, that IS a quality issue.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Wubble on Jun 10, 2013, 01:26 PM
I would really like it if you'd critique Cecilia's BB 'Remembrance' - it was skipped during voidcast 22 :<

PPT - Who are you cheering for?

EVERYONE. I cannot simply pick one. All of them are so awesome!

Influences

Umm.. I've been heavily influenced by most awesome voiders, like Hats, Charlie, BenT, Zest and Red. Outside Void.. I don't think I have any new influences, which means my influences include Eichiro Oda, Kubo Tite, Hayao Miyazaki and quite a large collection of comic artists and deviants.

Connecting Characters - or flying solo?
Since I'm a new voider, I try to weave in my character to the existing 'canon' and reference other comics heavily. I don't think I could fight other artists well if I couldn't use their story to influence mine.

Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Red on Jun 10, 2013, 02:04 PM

Influences

Umm.. I've been heavily influenced by most awesome voiders, like Hats, Charlie, BenT, Zest and Red.
sldfkjgdff ... I ... influenced someone?! :O


PPT
I'm cheering for the cutest princesses ... Pigeon Princess, Clown Princess, and Onion Princess!!!! GO GO GO!!

Influences
Voiders that influenced me the most would have to be Monday, Sheldon, James and Perca. Sheldon especially ... I was really struggling with lines quality and variation, and looking at his work closely really helped me understand what I needed to do.

Non-Voiders would be Ashley Wood and Jim Mahfood. 


Page count and Time limits
I think you should judge what is there, and not pay attention to time at all. If you are able to make a super solid comic in 5 weeks that is short, then that should be fine!
The end result should be the only thing that matters.

What bugs me even MORE is how people vote on quality, and I mean ACTUAL quality. In my opinion, if there is an artist who is AMAZING at drawing, but puts out sloppy work and someone who is ok but puts out super polished complete work ... I tend to give the higher score to the more polished work. In my mind, I'm not basing the quality score solely on that person's ability to draw... I guess I'm factoring effort into the score. It makes me cringe when someone gets a higher score for something they just sneezed out, rather than the person who spent hours doing their best work.

There was an instance where an amazing artist went up against someone who was "meh" at the time, and the amazing person only submitted a cover page while the opponent submitted a complete comic ... and the complete comic almost lost! That's just not right to me! When I monitor the votes sometimes I see things that surprise me lol.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: TINMAN on Jun 10, 2013, 05:45 PM
- PPT is up! who're you cheering for?
New kids. Weirdos. Seeing the first round will truly tell. I'll keep you posted.


- What influences have you gained since you joined void? (on-site or off)

There's a handful of Voiders that just tend to push my interests in experimenting in bizarre new directions I'd otherwise never consider. Working with Hiemie in the TTT and Galvo got me doing Watercolors. Rofl/Tox/Hats got me getting more grungy and toony with my characters and James/TODK/Jho in terms of depth/economy balance. Kura/Kent/LeFred in terms of writing intelligent/involved stories and world building- straight up work ethic and passion for the craft. There are others I like stylistically but those are the big guns that for sure I've lifted a page from.

Beyond Void- in the last couple years I've been here- I'm pretty into hefty ink styles lately- Moebius, Sean Murphy, Brandon Graham, Paul Pope, Raphs Grampa and Albequerque. Not exactly mainstream but bordering it, doin their own thang and rawkin the world with it. That's where I'd like to be in a couple few years.

- Connecting your characters arcs with other artists characters to build a sense of community or fly solo

Obviously I'm gonna champion the plight of the shared universe and collaborative storytelling I've been doing since I showed up. Cameos and cross pollinating stories is how I show my love and respect to my fellow Creators and the more the merrier. I try not to be too terribly invasive, unless I'm straight up battling the character but then I feel its my duty to research them thoroughly and pay homage to their rich histories for the sake of better storytelling. There's a bunch I'd love to get my hands on given the chance, shared world canon is the best way to tackle em all at once.

While I feel people should be free to do whatever they want and not rope people into any one view of Void- if we don't push things forward or set some status quo- then there's no sense of community or common ground. We're all here and writing this massive rawk opera together, may as well play as big a part as possible. There should be some sense of direction, rather than aimless wandering and stagnation. Hence those people who make bold strokes tend to be those I gravitate towards and admire, those I riff on and seek collabs with. Admittedly difficulties can arise and its all personal preference based on our personalities arising in the art- but people should choose to join in the collab or go it alone as they see fit.

Are people scoring comics based on how long they expected it to be?

I actually really admire economy- I wish I could pack a fully fleshed out tale in 4 pages as some do. Arguably the best comics on Void are KR's and they're no longer than that. It comes down to work ethic, personal growth and judging each creator according to their own abilities- not merely length or holding them up to myself. Rather are they upping their own game, putting in the work for the time allotted, and doing justice to the prompt of the battle. There's no single metric for scoring, its a very case by case basis but I'll say the three categories for ranking are incredibly amorphous. My views on score are probably personally quite different since I'm a purely tournament fighter. Regular battles baffle me.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 13, 2013, 05:21 PM
This weeks topics are:



-PPT Round 1 is posted! Which comic did you enjoy the most?


-Whats the one comic/cartoon you think is the best example of top-notch quality art and why?


-How do you determine a story to write when battling on Void? (examples: Based on your opponents unique characters, setting up an environment for them to interact in, or just beat the crap out of each other regardless)




We'll also be dividing the cast into 2, one being the main cast, the other for critiquing the crap-ton of comics up right now like have you seen the list?


If anyone's interested in joining the recording tomorrow at 8pm est, lemme know!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Wubble on Jun 14, 2013, 02:21 AM
I'd like to join in the recording~ Though only if I'm right and 8pm EST is 3am GMT+2 (Finland time)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Jiisuri on Jun 14, 2013, 03:26 AM
I'll be coming on.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Fed on Jun 14, 2013, 04:08 AM
-PPT Round 1 is posted! Which comic did you enjoy the most?
Kya Skylord VS Clown Princess ; two so different styles and stories; KYAs was greatly rendered and ClownPrincess was pure mindless fun; Combined it made for a great read!

-Whats the one comic/cartoon you think is the best example of top-notch quality art and why?
EDIT: Lol, i thought you meant from the tournament, my bad!

In that case I'd say Franquins "Gaston Lagaffe"-series (dunno in english). The style, the mood, the way cartoony charachters interact with a "real" world. Spirou as well for that matter.
-How do you determine a story to write when battling on Void? (examples: Based on your opponents unique characters, setting up an environment for them to interact in, or just beat the crap out of each other regardless)
I rarely "beat the crap" out of anyone (for all my battles, i've yet to draw an ACTUAL battle); It's hard to really describe my writing process, but my opponent is alpha and omega when it comes to the tone of the story; some opponents lend themselves to funny stories, others to tragic; the environment (especially in tournament battles) can also interact with the story in a defining way.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Pennydox on Jun 14, 2013, 10:25 AM
-How do you determine a story to write when battling on Void? (examples: Based on your opponents unique characters, setting up an environment for them to interact in, or just beat the crap out of each other regardless)

I read their stories, and I find out what the character is lacking, or if they're exceptional at something. It could be some thought from their past, or if everyone's been making a joke about them in the chatroom, etc. Just something to spark the fire.  Then I expose it in the comic. Which means if my opponent is a fighter, then the comic would likely be about wooping ass, but they're just missing something in life, then the comic would be about encountering it.


....also. I'm cool with joining vcsi this week.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Charlie on Jun 14, 2013, 02:28 PM
-PPT Round 1 is posted! Which comic did you enjoy the most?
Puzzlethiiiinggg'sssssss :3

-Whats the one comic/cartoon you think is the best example of top-notch quality art and why?

Why are you doing this to me? I guess I'll settle with Redline. It took them so many years to make it and there is no 3D/CG involved, it is all hand drawn. The style is very comic-book esque with all the heavy blacks and all the fucking detail its nuts. I can't get over just how good it is.


-How do you determine a story to write when battling on Void? (examples: Based on your opponents unique characters, setting up an environment for them to interact in, or just beat the crap out of each other regardless)

It depends. I like to take opponents characters and incorporate them into my worlds though if I can. I don't really try and change the opponents characters too much in doing so, but I know for GMCBLG I've made some rad changes (at least, I think they're rad) to how he works just to get him to fit plausibly within the context of the shared universe I am trying to build up for my characters. I generally lean towards the beating the crap out of eachother type comics though provided I have time.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Atomicfish on Jun 14, 2013, 02:51 PM
-PPT Round 1 is posted! Which comic did you enjoy the most?
Kya Skylord VS Clown Princess ; two so different styles and stories; KYAs was greatly rendered and ClownPrincess was pure mindless fun; Combined it made for a great read!

Fed no. Stop. <3

-PPT Round 1 is posted! Which comic did you enjoy the most?
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It's so hard, there where a lot of good ones! I really Enjoyed ADAM's comic. It had a fun story, was drawn well, and just generally well put together. Ink Princess vs. Pigeon Princess also had some really good comics, a lot of heart went in to both.

-Whats the one comic/cartoon you think is the best example of top-notch quality art and why?
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Do you mean in the PPT or in general? Because in the PPT, it's a toss up between both comics in Chiyojo vs. Anish Amrit, ADAM's comic, ninjacake, Qyzex, and Puzzlething.

-How do you determine a story to write when battling on Void? (examples: Based on your opponents unique characters, setting up an environment for them to interact in, or just beat the crap out of each other regardless)
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I read an re-read the character profile and every comic that character was in. Then I brainstorm by stepping away from my computer, exercising, having lunch, walking the dogs, and taking showers. None of my battles have had actual physical fighting in them...thanks to my none psychical characters. So I try to figure out how they would meet and why either of them would care. My ideas change a lot before I start drawing.

Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Puzzlething on Jun 14, 2013, 03:31 PM
UGhguhsdhgsduhgsduhgshdg you guys are so nice omg.

-PPT Round 1 is posted! Which comic did you enjoy the most?
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           PPT is such an amazing tournament already and it's only round one! Chiyojo vs. Anish Amrit was glorious, and I also really liked Clown Princess's story.

-Whats the one comic/cartoon you think is the best example of top-notch quality art and why?
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I have to second Redline because it's just amazing. It's like getting to see Zsa animated. Every frame is so incredibly gorgeous and celebratory, the first time I saw it I just spent the entire time with my jaw on the floor.

                I also really like The Triplets of Belleville and Tekkokinkreet. The Triplets is an amazing french movie, everything is incredibly stylized and the world is just populated by amazing caricatures. They're really reaally good at casual movement. Even tiny things like a character adjusting their jacket is just filled with life.

                 Tekkonkinkreet has the most glorious backgrounds and setting ever. Sometimes a shot will only be half a second long, and the background is some ridiculous fully painted city scape that had to have taken hours, that's filled with a thousand stories about the city and people who live there. One of my favorite things are untold stories like that, and Tekkokinkreet is filled with it.

         And oh god and Magical Witch Academy. MAN IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT SEE IT! God I love animation so much it's actually hard to decide, I could probably keep rambling for awhile.


-How do you determine a story to write when battling on Void? (examples: Based on your opponents unique characters, setting up an environment for them to interact in, or just beat the crap out of each other regardless)
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           I usually try to base the story completely around my opponent, because it's just way more fun. I usually try to design characters that have less of their own plot, and slip more easily into others stories. I spend a lot of time reading the opponents character bio, all they're previous comics and staring at the design sheet. I look for an overlying theme I can tie character into, like an idea or feeling or problem. Usually I'm trying to look for what the conflict is in that character, or what conflict I can make up that will fit them. Then I just try to write as many 2 or 3 sentence stories I can, trying to get something that isn't awful.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Charlie on Jun 14, 2013, 04:01 PM
Tekkonkinkreet has the most glorious backgrounds and setting ever. Sometimes a shot will only be half a second long, and the background is some ridiculous fully painted city scape that had to have taken hours, that's filled with a thousand stories about the city and people who live there. One of my favorite things are untold stories like that, and Tekkokinkreet is filled with it.

DITTO. Tekkonkinkreet is fantaaaaaaaastic. I love it a lot too and yes, the backgrounds are incredible. They're some of my favourite backgrounds in an animated film ever.

And oh god and Magical Witch Academy. MAN IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT SEE IT! God I love animation so much it's actually hard to decide, I could probably keep rambling for awhile.
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Hahahaha...I looked that up on google 'cause I never heard of that before and all I got was a hentai coming up in the searches haha. Maybe they share an unfortunate name?

Or did you mean Little Witch Academia by Trigger? If its LWA you meant than yeah, I agree its fantastic ;o;. I love that short and would gladly watch a full series if animated to that quality/in that style.


Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Puzzlething on Jun 14, 2013, 04:10 PM
WHOOPS! Yeah I totally meant that.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Jun 15, 2013, 02:03 PM
SUUURE you did, Puzzle! You just want people looking at magical witch porn :D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Red on Jun 15, 2013, 03:22 PM
BAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 24 IS HERE!!
Post by: Pennydox on Jun 16, 2013, 09:48 PM
More possible questions for future VCSI!

-What do the words 'quality, 'creativity', and 'entertainment' mean to you? How do you interpret them personally? Would you change the words if you had the chance?

-How harsh would you consider your grading for Void comics? Ever have a soft spot for certain genres or fanservice?

- Do you judge a comic solely on itself, or comparing it to the artist's past work?

-How does your concept of grading work? In the chat some of us talked about our process, like starting at 5 and go up and down the scale, or start at 10 and deduct points for problems, etc.

-How does the number of pages (compared to the other comic in a battle) affect your grading?

-there has been a lot of recent changes in Void City. What is your reaction to it, and do you think you're going to follow the storylines of them?
Title: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 17, 2013, 12:01 AM
EPISODE 25 IS HERE!


Part one is all about the topics (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E25%20P1.mp3)
Part two is all on critiquing comics (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E25%20P2.mp3)


Seevah and Tox are in it this time, and as a heads up, we only got to critique all the regular battles and one princess comic due to technical difficulties/podcast being so long. Sorry about that guys! Hope you enjoy regardless!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on Jun 17, 2013, 11:01 PM
cool casts, thanks for the crits, and bringing up some stuff no one else did just yet~

SEEVAH YOU CALLIN' ME FAT D:<
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: Pennydox on Jun 19, 2013, 09:16 PM
I don't have favorites on what series I feel is genius, but I'll mention two that really deserve recognition.

Shinsekai Yori, the anime: Incredible clothing designs throughout the entire story, there's so many mysteries that are and aren't answered until the end, and the story is incredibly dark. Story concept is genius, where just about every detail of the plot has been connected and even though it's never explained in the episodes, it's there. I often have to sit on my chair to think and reflect on every episode about why something has happened. Incredible.

Recess, children's tv show: The concept and design of every single character had a lot of thought in it. From individual hierarchy, back story, and relations with other characters. Very unique characters, each one having had an episode of their own, and each episode with a very important lesson for kids of all ages and adults. It may not be a masterpiece like tekonkinkreet, but it's a children't tv show, and not a movie that people have spent more than a year on.

And also, kinda surprised no one mentioned a Miyazaki Movie or a Dreamworks movie, or a Disney movie in the podcast.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 20, 2013, 09:42 PM
ok haha I forgot to post topics again, so next episode's topics are:



- Some voiders have made it in the comic industry, who do you consider to be a good example of a void alumni?


- What do the words 'quality, 'creativity', and 'entertainment' mean to you? How do you interpret them personally? Would you change the words if you had the chance?


- Do you judge a comic solely on itself, or comparing it to the artist's past work?


Thanks to Pocky for the topic suggestions! Recording will Happen Friday (tomorrow) at 7 or 8pm EST, depending on the errands I gotta run.


I'll contact some people to join in on this episode, but lemme know if you're interested!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: Charlie on Jun 21, 2013, 01:25 AM
- Some voiders have made it in the comic industry, who do you consider to be a good example of a void alumni?

Stokoe. Hands down.

- What do the words 'quality, 'creativity', and 'entertainment' mean to you? How do you interpret them personally? Would you change the words if you had the chance?

Quality is how good it looks, how its presented. Did the person make an effort to make the text clear and easy to read. Is the comic sized properly. Out of all three this is the one I feel can be given the fairest shake with the least amount of bias. Even in styles I do not like I can appreciate the quality if I can recognize "yeah, this person really thought about making this comic work".

Entertainment is just how much the comic grabbed me. Doesn't have to be because its funny or deep or whatever, but if the comic presented to me something that I found to be entertaining I find this is the category I tend to vote easiest in. I am easily entertained and can appreciate a wide variety from comedy to more dramatic stuff on the site. I do have a preference for action, but again I'm easily entertained.

Creativity is the term I almost find the most aggravating here. I am of the opinion that I'd love to just axe this off the voting criteria entirely, as I feel it is too close to Entertainment. I also think that it is the category that pisses me off the most on a personal level because I know for me what other people see as creative and what I see as creative are wholly different. I don't want to reinvent the wheel here on VOID and a lot of people generally don't. To me the entire making of a comic is a creative process in of itself and you automatically get creative points from me just by drawing the thing. I don't care if you pay homage to your inspirations, if you go nuts with a story so alienating because of how weird it is, it is all equally valid to me. I honestly don't think there are a lot of really "unique" comics here on VOID. We all play to our respective genres and quirks and this category I find is the most useless because of that reason alone. I can't remember what my stance on this option was years ago when this topic was brought up but I know this is how I feel about it now.

And honestly, I don't think its all that creative when your comic is a flash animation, or has animated panels, or -insert other quirks you can think of here-. I think all those things are great, and they're totally valid to use - but a lot of people do these things all around the internet. It's nothing I haven't seen before and to repeat it - I do like those things here and there and think they're totally great to use if you want to. So I don't like judging the creativeness on whether or not people are utilizing the medium in a non traditional way. But I do come here to see people rock out doing what they do best, experiment if they want to (maybe that is what they do best too!) and just have fun making comics - and to me the creativity category is the stupidest one for me to vote on because of that. I can gauge entertainment, and I can gauge quality, but creativity is so shitty to vote on and thus I'd totally remove it from the voting.

But that's just me I'm sure.

- Do you judge a comic solely on itself, or comparing it to the artist's past work?

A little bit of both sometimes. If its something standalone I'll generally just judge it on its own merits, if its something part of a larger piece I'll usually judge it on its own + with a little bit of influence from prior stuff.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: Bobo on Jun 21, 2013, 07:39 AM
James was my first thought, too hahah. I think Evan Dahm deserves considerable mention as well, although I'm not sure how invested he was in VOID, just that he was here at one point (mostly before I showed up).

I wanted to put in my two cents on how I interpret the three categories, especially in response to Charlie's observation that Creativity and Entertainment are so similar.

For me, quality is simply a measure of how close the comic is to something I would buy at a store or check out of a library. It doesn't have to be a certain style, or colored, or anything like that, it just has to look finished and cohesive to me. If it's a simple style, I pay more attention to the quality of the story, the graphic design of the pages, the consistency of the characters, etc. If it's more complex, I can get a bit more nitpicky with anatomy, poses, perspective, etc. It all depends on the art style they're going for and, again, the ultimate decider for me is whether or not this is something I would pick up if I saw it in print.

The way I judge creativity isn't so much about whether it's different, but simply if it's original. To me, you don't have to do anything categorically new or different to be original, it just has to feel like you didn't just rip off someone else's storyline. For example, Kura's recent beach volleyball comic has elements from tons of other beach volleyball stories, games, etc. but the comic still felt original. A big factor here to me is how much the characters' personalities pop out, how human the whole thing feels (or how inhuman if it's that kind of comic), and the general sense of "this artist spent time trying to make something unique even if it has elements of existing art, story, etc. in it." In this way, it's different from entertainment because someone could make a comic that doesn't grab my attention at all, but if it's something I've never seen before and it's apparent the artist put a lot of thought into the concept, I can still give them a higher score on creativity.

Entertainment, then, is just my personal, visceral, knee-jerk reaction to a comic. Did it make me want to keep reading? Did it leave me satisfied at the end? or begging for more? Did I laugh out loud at work even though there are people around? Did I show it to my friends because of how much I liked it? Did it inspire me to make a new character before I realize that I have enough characters and I don't need to rip off other people's ideas anyway? I try to keep Quality and Creativity pretty objective, but this is my chance to get completely personal and subjective. I expect Entertainment to vary depending on who reads the comic and how experimental it is.

That's just how I see it, and maybe it can be helpful to others who struggle with the difference between creativity and entertainment.

Which makes me ask the question: if we did change the categories (which we probably won't, so don't read into this question), what categories would you like to see?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: Fred v2.0.1 on Jun 21, 2013, 09:17 AM
For me,
Quality is first how readable it is, then how finished it is and then how beautiful it is. All three together is quality.
I like creativity. I'm more on the Bobo scale of interpretation of it, it's about how unique and personal it feels. Animations and gimmicks have nothing to do with it, unless they are smartly used to support the content. No, not everyone strives for this, but not everyone strives for quality either, some people just want to make fun, unique stories. Or even just unique, it's just as valuable as trying to make something beautiful, in my opinion. Sometimes it won't work as a story, it won't be fun to read, that's why there's an entertainment cathegory, at least something was tried, something is there to learn something new from it.
Entertainment is my emotional response. It starts with understanding, if I don't get anything of the story there's good chances I'm not entertained, then interest, if I'm compelled to continue reading, then if I get feelings out of it, you won. Any emotion will do, may it be excitement, laughter, sadness, melancholy, horror, disgust, as long as it's in response to the intended content, of course. If I'm horrified at the way you can't draw, then that doesn't count. :P
I think the cathegories are good, I think they cover what people might strive for or look for in a comic. Mayhaps their naming isn't optimal, but I would be hard pressed to find better nomenclature.
Past comics do influence me. Maybe they shouldn't, maybe I should look at each comic objectively, but that's impossible, I'm subject to my subjectivity. Mostly, the effects limit themselves to me giving a bit more points to someone whom I can see put in the effort and got better, because I love seeing that. I love seeing people learning and trying their hardest and I can't help but think they deserve something for that effort.
I'd almost want an 'effort' cathegory, but I know it couldn't work because there's no way to judge the actual amount of effort someone puts into a comic unless you're with them as they do it.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on Jun 21, 2013, 10:16 AM
For me I always felt Quality was talking more about the visual presentation, Creativity talks about the writing, and Entertainment is if I was personally entertained, much the same as everyone else's opinion about Entertainment. If I had my way, I would rename Creativity as Writing or something similar. To me that's a more direct thing to rate which pretty much sums up everything in the creativity bracket anyway, and is less vague.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: William_Duel on Jun 21, 2013, 10:41 AM
To me, Quality is how good the fundamentals are.  Anatomy, line work, perspective, etc.  Basically does everything look as good as can be and are the flaws in the art jarring or not?

Creativity is how the artist decides to string the images together, is the flow good?  Do they try for creative angles and dynamic shots?  Do they push what they know or have done into new territory?  Do they play with panels?  Or is everything just static?

And entertainment is more on the story side for me.  Is it a good story?  Does it elicit an emotional response or did I have fun reading this comic?  Quality and Creativity affect readability so it can also affect entertainment if those are off.  I have to be drawn into the story.  And if it's something like comedy, is the timing good or is it all just internet memes?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: Chimaeric on Jun 21, 2013, 12:06 PM
i would rate quality as "would i buy this if i saw it in a bookstore?"
i would rate creativity as "does this spark my imagination? Does it make me think about the story?"
and entertainment as "would i read this start to finish again?"

usually i try to judge a comic based on its own merits, simply because artists grow and change. However, realistically speaking, any contemporary work will almost always be compared to the artist's past work, and the nature of the competitive way battles work on this site means its unavoidable that an artist's work will be compared to their opponent's.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: Angie on Jun 21, 2013, 03:10 PM
I think the only time I'll consider a person's previous battles is if they did a comic that was a huge step down. Otherwise I try to judge the comic based solely on that comic.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: Jiisuri on Jun 21, 2013, 08:05 PM
Fear me and my rather odd accent!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 25!!
Post by: seevah on Jun 23, 2013, 12:55 AM
I usally think of Angie only because shes still in Void, I know James busy but Angie just sticks out more because of that lol.

I grew up with "Ziggy" Comic and think "Even a Money Can Draw Manga" is good learn aid so my like taste in 'quality' is bizarre so I like to Start at 10 for quality and then deducting points based off of things that dont fly well visually like bad anatomy crazy tangents or line weight.  Its one thing to make it work but it it doesn't MINUS POINTS! This also come from the idea my professor once said when looking at someones 'not so good' art "Some where someones buying it"

Creativity starts at 5 (because you did something) and i add and minus points accordingly.  Like if its JUST 2 characters fighting just for the sake of fighting I minus points.  If something leads up to meeting character or point I add points. (never a 10 unless im like WUT and have to go back and reread to fully grasp what just happened some may say this should be entertainment but I like to think I'm im clever and can read obvious bumps in story when they happens so making me backtrack is a feat to award a 10 to.)

Entertainment use to start at 5 but then realized this is my entertainment so I start it at 0 now and add points the more i read and remove points if i dont want to read anymore and still go on.  (10's go to the ones I want to read again because its burned into my brain as good)

overall 10's only go to the ones I want to reread again by choice without being reminded that it exist.

I judge comics on on the now.  Only because I think comparing them to their past work is like comparing them to a person that isn't there anymore.  (but also because I've been jumping in and out of void so much I'm not fully caught up on everyone past comics)

YEAH!
Title: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 23, 2013, 10:49 PM
Episode 26 has arrived (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E%2026.mp3)


Tox, Hats and LJS join in to talk about how much Hats hates melted cheese.
Sorry for the quality on my side, my headset which has the mic attached broke and it's super uncomfortable to wear it and had to improvise.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Miss Jetster Fukken Jay ❤︎ on Jun 26, 2013, 10:31 PM
Relevant to the question of how do you score comics:

Beyond how effectively and clearly it conveys a story, how does art skill play into scoring a comic for you?
How important is it that someone improves their art skill to make comics?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Wubble on Jun 27, 2013, 01:17 AM
Beyond how effectively and clearly it conveys a story, how does art skill play into scoring a comic for you?
To me, art is part of my 'quality' vote. If the story is told well and I feel entertained, I can still give low score in quality if the art itself is bad.

How important is it that someone improves their art skill to make comics?
I think it's something that comes along by just doing them, but if it's a clear point of improvement, I will keep close eye on if they are improving on that matter. If they seem to just do the same thing over and over, something is wrong.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Bobo on Jun 27, 2013, 08:24 AM
D. E. Belton is another good example of VOID alumni.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Miss Jetster Fukken Jay ❤︎ on Jun 27, 2013, 08:11 PM
I rate mostly based on the comic given rather than referring to past work. I don't tend to start anywhere either, I just go 'eeeeh this feels about a 7' - most of my scores tend to be somewhere between 4-8 which is probably high compared to a lot of people... I'm just usually impressed by the fact that people do something.

For quality I think about the clarity of the art and the writing (can I follow what is going on), the skill with which both are carried out as a combination (ie. Writing and artwork at the same time), and whether or not it looks rushed. How well it does what it sets out to do.

For creativity I think about whether it's a new idea, or something that's just framed in an interesting way whether it be how the comic has been written or how the art or layout etc. Has been approached.

For entertainment it's about whether I want to read it again or read more, as well as how much lapses in quality have actively taken me out of the comic (eg. If someone's head is twisting ridiculously unnaturally or you use a really hackneyed cliché, that's going to take me out of the story. A slightly too-long arm or a minor use of a cliché might be something I mention after re-reading if it looks like it was something important to the artist, but they're not going to pull me out of the comic enough for it to degrade my score)

As for my own questions... Take KC Green and Kate Beaton (and a lot of old school underground artists) who don't typically do 'good art' with perfect anatomy or line quality or what have you. I feel their writing is often more important, and in some cases the bad art is half the point. It interests me to think that someone as important as say... Aline Kominsky-Crumb (who played a large role for women in the independent comix movement), would probably get marked down for quality by some people here - where I think her comics are some of the best quality out there in terms of how well they do what she wants them (or what I think she wants them) to do.

So while improvement in art might be something necessary to some people who can't portray a story properly, or are distracting their readers... I think that it's not always something that has to be improved if you are improving on comics as an all-encompassing medium.

Now I'm gonna go down my hole and feel terrible for putting up a question as an obvious excuse to voice what's probably an unpopular opinion that I've only really just formed over the past month or so. Would love to see/hear further discussion - this is always a debate that's interesting, and I think it's important in a place where some people put a lot of stock in their scores.
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Post by: Fred v2.0.1 on Jun 27, 2013, 08:56 PM
I do believe improving art is important, but much in the same way you think it don't. Take your own example of KC green, and look at his early strips. There is improvement there, isn't there? Sure, it's still not conventionally pretty, but it's a heck of a lot more efficient. It's not about wether improving art is important, it's about how you'll improve. KC has improved in a whacky-ugly direction because that's what he does, but he's still developped important basics like consistency, line quality, expressions, colors... it is now extra whaky-ugly and clear to read. The art is the voice of the comic, it constructs everything that it is, it's super important to find just the right voice for it and then make that voice the best voice for saying what you're saying. Find an appropriate art style, but make it the best it can be and improve on it because there's always improvement to be done. Always.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Angie on Jun 27, 2013, 10:05 PM
Thanks for mentioning me! Here is the big list of most of the voiders that have gone on to work in the comic industry as a pro


(http://i.imgur.com/YFEJnWv.jpg)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Miss Jetster Fukken Jay ❤︎ on Jun 27, 2013, 10:38 PM
I do believe improving art is important, but much in the same way you think it don't. Take your own example of KC green, and look at his early strips. There is improvement there, isn't there? Sure, it's still not conventionally pretty, but it's a heck of a lot more efficient. It's not about wether improving art is important, it's about how you'll improve. KC has improved in a whacky-ugly direction because that's what he does, but he's still developped important basics like consistency, line quality, expressions, colors... it is now extra whaky-ugly and clear to read. The art is the voice of the comic, it constructs everything that it is, it's super important to find just the right voice for it and then make that voice the best voice for saying what you're saying. Find an appropriate art style, but make it the best it can be and improve on it because there's always improvement to be done. Always.

I think what I was getting at is that your art should improve in such a way that it strengthens what you are trying to do in your comics, you've just articulated it a lot better. I'm in total agreement there :)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: seevah on Jun 27, 2013, 10:50 PM
Just randomly throwing this out there, on Episode 25.  I was at "The Donut Pub" at some point and it is the best old school donut places in NYC.  It's 24hrs and their Honey Ring doughnuts are the best.
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Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 27, 2013, 10:55 PM
And you didn't share? For shame.
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Post by: seevah on Jun 27, 2013, 11:15 PM
Maybe if you all came to nyc i would have a reason to buy a dozen :I
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Post by: Evi on Jul 02, 2013, 10:55 PM
Possible topic for the next vcast:

Onomatopoeias! (aka sound effects)
- How important do you feel they are
- Have you seen a comic that uses them really well?
- and how often do you incorporate them in your own comic?
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Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jul 03, 2013, 03:53 AM
Hey guys! Sorry there was no update for last weeks episode, balancing void/non-void stuff/financial business has been in the way of things, and I had to sacrifice one thing in order to have the rest settled.


This weeks topics for episode 27 are:

1. Onomatopoeias! (aka sound effects)
- How important do you feel they are
- Have you seen a comic that uses them really well?
- and how often do you incorporate them in your own comic? (thanks, evi!)

2. How important is it that someone improves their art skill to make comics in void? (thanks, Jetster!)

3. Lot of us use digital these days to draw comics. How important is it to harness your traditional skills when it comes to drawing?

Any other topics you wanna suggest? Throw 'em at me! Anyone interested in coming in for this weeks episode? PM  me or post here!
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Post by: Angie on Jul 03, 2013, 08:54 AM
I can come on if I'm around while you're doing it.
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Post by: Bobo on Jul 03, 2013, 08:58 AM
Me too! Me too! When are you doing it?
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Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jul 03, 2013, 09:19 AM
Friday 8pm EST. If something happens that we can't record friday, I do it on saturday.


I'm sure it's a given already, but you gotta have a skype! I'll add you soon if you have one, angie.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Angie on Jul 03, 2013, 09:29 AM
Okay, probably won't be able to make that one since I work Friday night! But I'll be around Saturday if something happens. My name on skype is angienessyo, so feel free to pull me in on a different episode if I can't make this one.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Puzzlething on Jul 03, 2013, 09:34 AM
  I like personal stories, so do you guys remember the most brutal critique you ever received, the one that cut you the deepest? What did they say and how did it affect your art afterwards?

    I don't want you guys to name names or anything if it's someone on void (we don't need any more drama haha), but it's always comforting to hear other people are having similar difficulties making the arts.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Bobo on Jul 03, 2013, 09:39 AM
Dang, 8pm EST is 6pm here, which is a half hour before I get off work. I could probably be on for that half hour, but I'd have to leave at 6:30 so I can go home. You know how that goes :)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jul 03, 2013, 09:43 AM
If anything, we can schedule for one hour earlier. it used to be 7 pm to begin with but changed it to one hour later due to some personal IRL stuff going on here, but hey, why not? Is 7 pm (5 pm) okay for you?
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Post by: Bobo on Jul 03, 2013, 09:49 AM
That would probably be perfect!
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Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jul 03, 2013, 10:03 AM

Sweet, see you then bobo!

  I like personal stories, so do you guys remember the most brutal critique you ever received, the one that cut you the deepest? What did they say and how did it affect your art afterwards?

    I don't want you guys to name names or anything if it's someone on void (we don't need any more drama haha), but it's always comforting to hear other people are having similar difficulties making the arts.


The most brutal critique I've ever gotten was when I was in the incubator back in '07. I was about 15-16? And thought my entry was WAY PAST COOL. I won't say who it was, but someone on void didn't hesitate to tell me I needed a LOT to work on when it came to anatomy, backgrounds, proportion, etc. Needless to say, it shot my spirits down for a couple of days, but I later realized "...They're right." and I pushed forward to improve since then.


If it wasn't for one person to tell me straight out that I needed to make my stuff more presentable and finished, I probably wouldn't be at the level I am right now.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: William_Duel on Jul 03, 2013, 11:12 AM
I think I've told the story enough times about my coming to Void and Red's nightmare inducing critique.
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Post by: Pocketmouse on Jul 03, 2013, 11:49 AM
The worst critique I ever received. Ew.
It wasn't particularly mean or whatever- I'm all for honesty- it was just remarkably discouraging and offered very little practical help for improvement.

 I spent a whole week planning an 8 page comic last year. I had really wanted to make it for a while- most of the time I had been writing the story and planning the thumbnails, so the illustrations themselves were lacking. I had the full intention of bringing up the bar over the next few weeks but I really wanted to get the pacing and storytelling right; I know I'm not really any good with writing so I was desperate to get this bit as polished as I could.

I was hoping for some feedback on the writing from a certain person- when this unnamed individual saw it he, without really reading it or showing any signs of caring about the story, told me it 'wasn't good' and that I 'hadn't been working hard enough'- this really affected me and I never found the guts to go back to work on the comic more.

I think discouraging statements such as that are far worse than any number of 'you need to work on your anatomy'-s. I'd FAR rather receive a harsh but honest critique that will help me out over a thoughtless comment that makes me question if anybody else will ever even care about anything I create. That is a horrible feeling I could never wish on anyone.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Angie on Jul 03, 2013, 12:09 PM
I can't think of a specific critique offhand that still bothers me to this day or anything. I used to have much thinner skin so there were definitely a lot of critiques that would get me down, but I've gotten over it. But now I think the only time I don't like a critique is when it's just one of those worthless ones where all the person says is "this sucks" or "this reminds me of x" and that's all they say. It's always important to state why something sucks or why it reminds you of something else, and any art teacher worth a damn will scold students for giving the half assed "this sucks" critique. (most of my classes in art school the teacher would always start the year saying that shit is unacceptable)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Red on Jul 03, 2013, 01:47 PM
I think I've told the story enough times about my coming to Void and Red's nightmare inducing critique.

My favorite story!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 26 IS HERE!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Jul 03, 2013, 02:08 PM
1. Onomatopoeias! (aka sound effects)
I think SFX are an oft overlooked part of the comics medium. It's something creative that only written mediums like comics and books can do. In a movie or TV show, you can hear creaks and BOOMs, but what does "SPLURRJJ" sound like? Or "BOFF"? "KCHH" "SLMP" "PONK" ~ It adds to the experience because every individual reader will "hear" those differently!

I love the SFX in Scott Pilgrim. "SHAAA" is my favorite. I tried to emulate those in my current Raygun vs. Somadis comic (readthatreaditIsay)

2. How important is it that someone improves their art skill to make comics in void?

Ultimately up to the individual, but hopefully if they've joined Void it means they have set improvement as a goal for themselves. I say Improvement is essential to the culture of enterVOID, it's basically why we exist. Well, Improvement and Entertainment, but when the former increases, so does the latter usually.

3. Lot of us use digital these days to draw comics. How important is it to harness your traditional skills when it comes to drawing?

Pretty important, so in case of a technological upheaval apocalpyse we can still make art with our bare hands ;D But seriously, it's important to learn the basics of drawing by hand before you transition to digital. Even if you only do digital comics, I think it's so important to use pencil and paper sometimes to have a physical connection to the art.

4. Tell about a brutal critique experience...

I can't think of any critique that was overly harsh or unwarranted. The worst critiques to experience are when they pick out the little things that you KNOW you've been told about before and still haven't worked on. So those are always hard, but I don't get upset over critique anymore--it comes with the territory if I'm ever going to get better!
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Post by: Charlie on Jul 03, 2013, 02:47 PM
HELLO I AM HAVE ANSWERS 2 QUESTIONS:

1. Onomatopoeias! (aka sound effects)
- How important do you feel they are
- Have you seen a comic that uses them really well?
- and how often do you incorporate them in your own comic?
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- I feel like they are becoming increasingly more important to me to want to utilize, but not as a standard piece of text but rather as a part of the image itself. I think they can really add a lot to the scene, though I guess it really depends on the style for me.

- Can I cite something that isn't a comic? Dead Leaves utilizes them a lot in the animation, despite having sound (http://youtu.be/1Uoo2QzlzYU?t=20m24s). It's almost like watching an animated comic book in general though with the way the animation sometimes lays itself into panels too.  Panty and Stocking utilized sound effects a lot in the animation as well. Other than that I don't read a lot of comics but I'm a huge Imaishi fan so I have that to pull from :v.

- I'm trying to incorporate more into my comics when I can these days.

2. How important is it that someone improves their art skill to make comics in void? (thanks, Jetster!)
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I think you need to have a certain level of basic understanding on how things work, the rest from there is to keep pushing into your own sorta style imo. I don't think its necessarily all about art skill because what one person finds awesome another person will find terrible, I generally just go "do they understand the basics" and leave it at that. I'd rather see people not stifle their potential by getting too hung up on being super perfect - find your direction and keep improving on that (whether you specialize in the visuals or the writing keep moving in a direction you can be proud of). That's how I feel about it anyway.

3. Lot of us use digital these days to draw comics. How important is it to harness your traditional skills when it comes to drawing?
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I dunno, I find digital to be just another medium. The core skill of drawing can apply to whatever tool you train yourself to use so I say who cares. Draw with what you want to - whether that is traditional or digital media, the fundamentals of art should carry through if you put in the time to learn a new media. To me the digital vs traditional argument is dumb on that level, and I know for me I barely see a difference in my finished work drawing wise when comparing traditional to digital, just that my digital is a bit cleaner when zoomed in all the way.
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Post by: seevah on Jul 03, 2013, 02:49 PM
1. Onomatopoeias! (aka sound effects)

I think thier pretty important.  I like to avoid using "boom" or "zap" I try to sit down and listen to what it really sounds like at add it.  Like how when you type on a keyboard its more of a "Ta" "Ta" "Ta" over a "click"  Also I like to use "KA" for every sound as possible kinda like One Pieces "DON"

2. How important is it that someone improves their art skill to make comics in void?

It depends on what their here for I guess?  If theyre here to have fun then they can just keep at it! But if they're here to improve then obviously thats important?

3. Lot of us use digital these days to draw comics. How important is it to harness your traditional skills when it comes to drawing?

I think Traditional is really important because it helps you harness your abilities and make you value when you "Fuck up" something.  You can always Undo a digital and redraw or start a new file but it take alot to do something traditionally and value the piece of paper and that mark you put on it.

5. most brutal critique you ever received, the one that cut you the deepest? What did they say and how did it affect your art afterwards?

The worst crit I ever got was in moccafest 2013 from an "Artist/Illustrator/Comic Book Guy" [who shall not be named because people will prolly defend him because hes so amazing] that told me my work looked too much like anime and its ok to draw like that for fun but if I wanted to make it in the business I needed to pick up how to draw the marvel way or more realistic anatomy books to get away from that style if I wanted to make it in the industry.

Pretty much any crit that they say my work looks too much like anime and I need to stop drawing that way I consider a horrible crit.

But I didnt take anything he said for consideration because I had a crit from George O'Connor and he gave me a good crit about how my hands were stiff, not to use perspective if im going to fake some parts and i should just fake all of it or else it'll look off and how I didn't need to listen to him if I didnt want to because my recent stuff fixed upon all the problems my older work had and also its a crit its all based on his aesthetics so.

so the other guy was just like "this is too anime" and didnt say anything else but that so i was like "pffft ok"
Title: VCAST EPISODE 27!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jul 08, 2013, 12:45 AM
VCAST EPISODE 27 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E%2027.mp3)


Bobo, Qyz join in to talk about the topics listed earlier, with Gregly joining in fashionably late!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 27!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on Jul 08, 2013, 11:29 PM
cool episode

thanks for the critiques;

In all our collabs, Felle is the one who does all the layouts. I edited a few panels. If you're not sure who's doing what where whenever, I put the credits in the comments sections in my collabs. :)

fucking hell, I'm never gonna get these speed lines and word bubbles right XD




Has any of this been talked about before:

-Should an artist be expected to deliver better work in a Beyond Battle?

-Keeping as true as possible to the opponent's character's story and vibe vs. reimagining/reinterpreting the opponent's character in some way
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 27!!
Post by: Sean Patrick Kelly on Jul 11, 2013, 11:59 PM
HAHA I literally stopped what I was doing when you guys started the talk on me and skull's battle. I'm glad you guys were liking the story, and I wished I finished too, i was kicking myself because i told myself no more of those TBC comics!!

Also, yes Dan was doing a johnny cage split cunt punch! I wanted to do one more page with Doodle Dan showing a huge burly ink fist with Xia crying and vomiting, (kinda a splash page parody of DKR poster) but i ran outta time.

Whats really funny is this is actually the 3rd alternate ending when Xia began to fight Dan. The first one involved more of Vivian and Xia teaming up by Xia playing the TMNT theme so Viv can turn into four turtle-like ninjas.

But i wanted to focus more on Xia and thought of the idea that her blue flame hitting the gem during her fight with Dan, discovering her flame released these ancient rock aliens called "hard rockers of the planet Dolemite" who aided in battling evil with their "rock" and roll music powers. It was gonna be really 80's.

Sadly that second one would have been twice as long and then I thought, "punching a girl in the crotch is pretty evil", so there ;P
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 27!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jul 16, 2013, 06:23 PM
Hey hey guys! Gonna have to apologize once again for no episode last week! Let's try to get this back on schedule for real now!


This weeks podcast topics are:

-Webcomic feature in void is back! Are you interested in starting your comic on void
or fly solo? why?


-do you ever suffer from infinite possiblity hesitation?
i.e. the feeling where when you have all the time/ideas in
the world to do something, you can't seem to ever start doing anything? (thanks taylor!)


-How much has working with deadlines in void helped you in the long run? Are you more organized and punctual than when you first joined?


Recording will be on Friday 5pm EST. That's right, gonna record this earlier so I don't contradict recording with dinner time on my side haha. Interested in coming in? Lemme know!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 27!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Jul 16, 2013, 06:51 PM
-Webcomic feature in void is back! Are you interested in starting your comic on void or fly solo? why?

Yes, very excited about that! I like the idea of using Void because I don't want the hassle of getting my own site and stuff.

-do you ever suffer from infinite possiblity hesitation?
i.e. the feeling where when you have all the time/ideas in
the world to do something, you can't seem to ever start doing anything? (thanks taylor!)

All the time! There's so many ideas and only so much time to work on them! But the best thing is to just grab an idea and START it. Even if its not perfect, at least its getting made. You can always go back and do things over if you're that unhappy with them, but you can't remake something unless you have a first draft.

-How much of a difference has working with a deadline been when finishing comics in void done for you?

WAIT--I NEED A MOMENT to wrap my head around that sentence :p

If you mean how has Void's deadline system helped me, I'd say it really got me used to working on a time table, and I'm much better at managing time now. :)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 27!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jul 16, 2013, 07:07 PM
Oh whoops hahah I swear I edited that sentence earlier. LEMME FIX THAT OK

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Post by: Chimaeric on Jul 16, 2013, 07:35 PM
-Webcomic feature in void is back! Are you interested in starting your comic on void
or fly solo? why?
I had a detailed script and storyline for a Mortido webcomic that I wanted to release monthly- chapter by chapter. I haven't made any motions towards it because of the Shonen Jump Manga Competition, however, i don't see why one can't use Void as a satellite viewer for a webcomic.

-do you ever suffer from infinite possiblity hesitation?
i.e. the feeling where when you have all the time/ideas in
the world to do something, you can't seem to ever start doing anything? (thanks taylor!)
I mentioned the Shonen Jump thing, I created at least 5 different story summaries and at least two completed scripts in the space of 6 weeks before settling on the one I'm working on now. I feel that this current story is the "right" story i wanted to express in shonen jump.
There are infinite possibilities but you have to work out which possibility is the best choice. This involves typing your fingers off and extreme writing sessions.

-How much has working with deadlines in void helped you in the long run? Are you more organized and punctual than when you first joined?
I've defaulted quite a few times on Void. Defaulting is a shameful experience, and I think I've formed somke kind of ptsd or neurosis from it because i keep doing it. Void teaches you to work out your ideas quickly and draw fast, because you don't know when your opportunities to draw are gonna come or go.
The deadlines in Void can also push an artist to beyond limitations and push them into new areas of exertion. When i was working on my battle against rabbitrabbit's Katka Katarina yeeeears ago, I sustained a fracture on the elbow of my drawing arm. In order to continue and finish that battle I had to cut out my cast. So i did that battle with a bad elbow. I didn't win though, but i learned what i was capable of when I wanted to get something done in the face of time limitations.
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Post by: Red on Jul 16, 2013, 07:54 PM
When i was working on my battle against rabbitrabbit's Katka Katarina yeeeears ago, I sustained a fracture on the elbow of my drawing arm. In order to continue and finish that battle I had to cut out my cast. So i did that battle with a bad elbow.
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WHAT. oh my god. You're nuts. Please marry me.
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Post by: Ahmed on Jul 17, 2013, 01:43 AM
The deadlines in Void can also push an artist to beyond limitations and push them into new areas of exertion. When i was working on my battle against rabbitrabbit's Katka Katarina yeeeears ago, I sustained a fracture on the elbow of my drawing arm. In order to continue and finish that battle I had to cut out my cast. So i did that battle with a bad elbow. I didn't win though, but i learned what i was capable of when I wanted to get something done in the face of time limitations.

That's some pretty metal shit. But check this, the other day I got a papercut and I only cried for like TWO minutes.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 27!!
Post by: Pocketmouse on Jul 17, 2013, 01:50 AM
I thought I told you to PUT THE KNIFE DOWN.

Seriously though that is some serious dedication.
Title: VCAST EPISODE 28 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jul 21, 2013, 08:49 PM
Episode 28 is here! (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E28.mp3)


This week joins Saburu, Magistelle, and Alternabase! hope you enjoy
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Post by: PyrasTerran on Jul 23, 2013, 07:59 AM
Enjoyed
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Post by: Sabulive on Jul 23, 2013, 08:11 AM
Oh god, it's up.

Oh god my voice sounds weird. I can see why people say my accent is a bit off
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 28 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Aug 01, 2013, 08:31 PM
Okay, again, busy busy busy on my side.


Topics for this weeks episode are:


-Learning the basics and principles are important in art. What kind of tips would you give to people to have a better grasp in these elements? (Proportions, anatomy, constructions, etc.)


-artbooks artbooks artbooks. You've probably seen some, or at least seen some concept art for a franchise or series. Which one's stood out for you and why?


-Story time returns! What's the funniest/weirdest/downright horrible story you have that relates to art?




Recording's on Saturday, 7pm EST. I'm gonna be way too exhausted tomorrow, I promise you. If you wanna come in, lemme know!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 28 IS HERE!!
Post by: seevah on Aug 02, 2013, 05:57 PM
Just Listened to Vcast 28 thanks for the crit also all my sfx were hand drawn, but ill work more on it.

-Learning the basics and principles are important in art. What kind of tips would you give to people to have a better grasp in these elements? (Proportions, anatomy, constructions, etc.)
Don't think of every advice all at once or else you're going to try too many things without getting any of them right.

-artbooks artbooks artbooks. You've probably seen some, or at least seen some concept art for a franchise or series. Which one's stood out for you and why?
"Sketching Manga Style" It's a the only how to draw manga series that got discontinued and price as multiplies because its actually good. (especially the perspective one)

-Story time returns! What's the funniest/weirdest/downright horrible story you have that relates to art?

I had an Professor bring in the SUMI Takehiko artbook and told us that we were going to ink like he does.  Being a DIEHARD Takehiko fan I rough penciled the form like he does because thats how I learned to pencil then i got into this

Prof: "What are you doing Jack, I want you all to go straight Ink like he does"
Me: "But he pencils before he inks"
Prof: "Jack... It's not about HOW he does it, its about the shadows just ink in the shadows like HE does, I want you to go straight with ink like in the art book"
Inner Me: "I Hate you..."

I have a bunch of stories with this prof...
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 28 IS HERE!!
Post by: Ten Dead Kings on Aug 02, 2013, 11:36 PM


-artbooks artbooks artbooks. You've probably seen some, or at least seen some concept art for a franchise or series. Which one's stood out for you and why?
"Sketching Manga Style" It's a the only how to draw manga series that got discontinued and price as multiplies because its actually good. (especially the perspective one)


Quoting for truth. If you can track down the series they did before that, simply titled "How To Draw Manga" and with old school art
(published by Graphic-Sha IIRC, Sketching Manga Style is by PAGEONE) they're also pretty good.
Title: VCAST EPISODE 29!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Aug 05, 2013, 10:06 PM
VCAST EPISODE 29 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E29.mp3)


This week we have ABI and Pocky to discuss the topics already mentioned.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 29!!
Post by: Wubble on Aug 06, 2013, 07:35 AM
Bahaha, thanks for the critique - Yeah, because I didn't finish it, I wasn't able to add the visual clues and actual fixed dialogue to it, which in turn made it super confusing.

The comic was supposed to be a memory retrieval - with non sequitur scene changes. It would have been apparent if I had finished the page 1 and 2.

Also what you got was whatever I was doing - I do multiple layers of sketches, each in different color (picked randomly) so I can differentiate each iteration.

I'm going work out a BB very soon which will explain everythiiing - and I'll take all the time I can to get it out perfect.

About the line tool (point-to-point brush in Painter), I use it when I finally choose where I want the line to go exactly - which is again then drawn over with the final inks.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 29!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Aug 15, 2013, 10:49 PM
this weeks topics:


-Art School. Some people take it, some don't. Do you think it's important for a growing artist to gain an education in the field?


-Suggestions for the site! Are there any changes, additions or removal to the features you'd like to make for void?




I'll post more topics when I get the chance, I jsut needed to make this podcast happen today. any more suggestions or wanting to join lemme know! Recording happens today (friday) at 8pm
Title: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Aug 19, 2013, 01:52 AM
Here it is folks


VCAST Episode 30 has arrived (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E30%20FINAL.mp3)


This week I got Pocky, Gregly and Tox to talk about the topics listed, and add a new segment for vcast's new milestone: Void Comic read-a-long, where we voice the comic battle of Somadis vs Mortido!


I'll be sure to add this segment in as many episodes as I can, so if you wanna fill in some voices for void characters in void battles, this segment's for you!
Title: Re: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: Sabulive on Aug 19, 2013, 02:13 AM
OH MAN ART SCHOOL

I'm currently in Art School and personally, I am loving it and I am so glad I switched from a Computing Degree to a Fine Arts degree.

I do believe that it hugely depends on the school curriculum, the staff and the overall environment. My art school had a good curriculum but for my first year, I had the most shocking teacher for Graphic Design while this year I have a dedicated teacher who genuinly cares about the students' progress. I agree with the networking as the same teacher consistently gets us to go for things we wouldn't usually go for. Art school is awesome, I think everyone should go.

On the flipside, the Australian University/College is different than anywhere else as the Government helps the students out through HECS fees (go school now, pay later when job). But man, the networking is awesome.
Title: Re: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: Red on Aug 19, 2013, 07:20 AM
BAHAHAHA the readings were so great!
Title: Re: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: Red on Aug 19, 2013, 08:09 AM
Also, ranks aren't buggy. The way they are calculated is right in the FAQ:

How are the Ranks calculated?
We use a combination of elements that are each weighted equally to rank both Characters and Artists - comics completed, matches won, and scores earned from voting.

Each of the three pieces counts as 1/3 of the final score, with Characters and Artists being ranked by this score in descending order.

Quote

Also, comics with more votes count more towards your score than ones that don't have a ton of votes.


The thing with characters like Somadis popping up near the top with only one win is eventually corrected if that person doesn't do any more battles. Currently the time to become inactive is insanely long... like, 6 months? But, that is being changed in 6.0, so don't worry about that. It will probably end up being about half of that time. I can temporarily have that #5 rank, but in order to keep it I have to keep winning. I think the way the ranks are is actually pretty fair for the most part. Especially because they are constantly changing. Then that's just more incentive to do more battles if maintaining your rank is important to you.


As far as the hitlist goes, we did have a most wanted list before. I don't really remember when it was removed, or why. People weren't really using it the way it was intended to though, so maybe that was why. Sticking it in the profile is a cool idea though... I liked the most wanted list.
Title: Re: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Aug 30, 2013, 05:12 PM
Just an update

Sorry about leaving you guys hanging like this. I won't be recording vcast this week since now is more of the time where I prepare for school in 4 days.

I will most definitely be recording Friday September 6th at 7 or 8 pm EST depending on how my schedule will look by then. I know I've been recording bi-weekly lately and I hope you don't mind it staying that way for a little longer. I'm definitely going to do all I can to make this show last much longer, and to the people who've helped me with topics and recording and hell, just coming in, thank you so so much! Contributions like that is what keeps the show going.

If you guys have any topic suggestions for next Friday or would be interested in coming in, let me know on the forums or via PM. There will be a read-a-long segment on friday as well, so be prepared for that if you're wanting to come in!
Title: Re: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on Sep 13, 2013, 05:52 PM
Here's a topic: the competitive element of comic battles. Have you ever battled someone that you REALLY wanted to beat, or are there battles in the past you know of where the opposing artists were out for blood? Do you think it's a good or bad thing for an artist to get competitive? Etc.

Also: reinvention discussion! If you had the chance to revise, enhance or reinvent aspects of any artist's character in whatever way (appearance, abilities, story, etc.), who would you give your two cents on and why? Are there elements of a character that you feel hinder more than help it grow as a character? Could be your ideas might even inspire the original artist.
Title: Re: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Sep 13, 2013, 06:28 PM

So okay guys, this is where I get down on my knees and apologize to no end.

I am terribly, utterly sorry. Getting more and more exhausted when it comes to school life now, and with constant fatigue has really let vcast
down for the most part. As I've said, I'm always welcoming guests and topic suggestions. I've told a few people already, but I'll be looking
into getting some helpers to keep vcast updated. I have a few people in mind, and waiting to hear from some too, but in the meantime, I'll keep
doing what I can to have this show back on track.


I'm going to aim for September 20th at 8pm EST to have episode 31 recorded and have it released the 23rd.


topics:

-Have you ever battled/wanted to battle someone that you REALLY wanted to beat? (Thanks pyras!)

-What to do with defaults and incomplete comics: A discussion about the latest streak of incomplete comics and how to avoid them in the future.

-Pacing Problems: What to avoid when it comes to story telling and pacing in comics.

If you guys want to come in as guests, please PM me, post here, or let me know in chat. Otherwise I'll be picking who to bring in on that date.

Let's make sure this gets back on track.
Title: Re: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: William_Duel on Sep 13, 2013, 08:50 PM
I want to be the very best.  Like no one ever was.  To beat them is my real test, to battle is my cause.

Plus I've found that if you really wanna battle someone offer your character in a death match and it'll work out.
Title: Re: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: Chimaeric on Sep 13, 2013, 09:27 PM
that was a fun episode! i was grinning through the whole read-through and it made me wish that i gave Somadis some lines.
@drasticfantastic: we should totally do that rematch sometime >8D
everybody gets one...
Title: Re: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: Red on Sep 13, 2013, 10:38 PM
URGHHH I really want to be on this one because I really like these topics :I
But the 20th is my birthday so I'll probably be out doing things and stuff.

Also, don't stress about the cast. You've been doing a great job so far and UGHHRRGHH I understand how time consuming the whole thing is (why I had to stop doing it... stupid real life). So, carry on and keep doing a great job :D Hiccups are bound to happen once and a while.
Title: Re: VCAST REACHES EPISODE 30!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Sep 14, 2013, 11:57 AM
You can always post your thoughts though! It's always nice to get voices on the forums too.
Title: VCAST EPISODE 31!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Sep 23, 2013, 10:21 PM
After a long delay,


Episode 31 is here (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast%20e31%20final.mp3)


This weeks episode has Magistelle and Kura talking about stuff I mentioned. Also some read-a-longs!



Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 31!!
Post by: Pennydox on Sep 23, 2013, 10:55 PM
the most insane intro-to-conflict i've seen is Kyoryuger. Only took a few minutes to introduce all the bad guys, and every main character, and the situation with both the good and bad guys, how their powers work, and what they're fighting for. They get straight to the point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgivEEXKv5w

oh yea, next time post the comics you're doing live reading :D

and questions for next time:
-what has Void done for you? (improve comics, etc)
-since the moment you joined Void, what do you think has changed in your work?
-random thoughts of which void artist would work best with which void characters :D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 31!!
Post by: Majikura on Sep 24, 2013, 07:59 AM
skulls you cheater.  you edited out your own singing parts.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 31!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Sep 24, 2013, 01:16 PM
I was not going to ruin everyone's life with my singing :'|
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 31!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Sep 24, 2013, 10:53 PM
Assumes wrassler voice:
"You want a piece of me Kura? IT'S AWWWWWNNNNN"

:D

Edit: Also, the comic readings were quite enjoyable! Looking forward to more next time.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 31!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Oct 04, 2013, 03:46 PM
Okie Dokes! Still a bit of a speed bump on my side but we're still rolling!


Next podcast will be recorded on October 11th 8pm EST and should release around the 13th or 14th. Next episode's topics will be:


-Month of the Dead has begun and the dead walk among us! Who are you hoping to see battle again? Who was the most memorable to you before their untimely death?


-what has Void done for you? (improve comics, etc)-since the moment you joined Void, what do you think has changed in your work? (Thanks, Pocky!)


[/size]And we'll do some read-along's too! want your horrible voice to dub a character in a comic? want to participate in these topics? Drop me a line!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 31!!
Post by: Shen on Oct 05, 2013, 12:31 AM
dude I want my cute-tacular voice to dub a line. I want in on this sign me up lol
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 31!!
Post by: Gregly on Oct 05, 2013, 02:35 AM
i want in on this ;;;;;;
Title: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Oct 14, 2013, 01:17 AM
VCAST Episode 32 is up for listening! (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E32%20FINAL.mp3)


Poky, Shen, Gregly, and Tox join in to talk about the stuff I mentioned plus some readings of the comics!


Sadly there's no critiquing in this weeks podcast. Sorry 'bout that! But we'll be sure to give some comments on the battles soon!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Sean Patrick Kelly on Oct 16, 2013, 11:21 AM
ha that was a good listen and great to hear you guys after a long night of work on my birthday, keep em coming!!
also i'd loved to join you guys sometime for an episode, i mean if nobody else can make it and i was the last resort, then yeah totally rad!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Pennydox on Oct 16, 2013, 06:34 PM
more questions:

Since there is so much talk about new technology and programs for drawing, let's take a step back:
-what kind of traditional drawing tools do you use? Brand of pencils, type of equipment, types of paper

and, regarding traditional tools, how much money do you spend on average, per month?

-what size paper/canvas do you draw on, specifically for your comics? Resolution, size, or paper dimensions, etc.

-there have been a lot of 'bite more than you can chew' comics, where the person is lacking in quality, or unfinished quantities during short constrained time limits. Any tips? And if you were given a very tight deadline, which would be more important--getting the story down first, or getting the visuals to look appealing ? And i mean choose one or the other, we all know you need both.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Atomicfish on Oct 16, 2013, 07:31 PM
More and more questions:
- What's more important to you when it comes to comics: art or writing?
- What is the best/worst advice you've ever gotten?
- Do you think it's important for each artist to have his/her own style? (Was that already a question?)
- Do you think art school is important to be a good artist or to work in art?
- What do you hate and like most about your own art?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Angie on Oct 16, 2013, 08:16 PM
- Do you think art school is important to be a good artist or to work in art?

You actually don't need any sort of degree whatsoever to work in comics, I was never asked to show my BFA when I got hired. However, it's smart to have a back up plan because comics are pretty tough to get into. Art school is also very helpful in terms of getting you prepared for handling tight deadlines. (Void is too of course, but people are more likely to actually take deadlines seriously when thousands of dollars are wasted if you flunk a class)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Oct 17, 2013, 12:22 AM
Nice VCAST ~ you're all so fookin adorkable

Edit: I LOVED the read-along! Shen I thought you were a great Moa! I greatly enjoyed your reading of the line "What the everflaiming fuck" ~ It was also cool when Greg and David starting doing the BlackClones in unison ;D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Oct 23, 2013, 07:47 PM
Next topics for vcast!


- What do you hate and like most about your own art? (Thanks Atomic!)

-what kind of traditional drawing tools do you use? Brand of pencils, type of equipment, types of paper (Thanks Pocky!)


- What is the best/worst advice you've ever gotten? (Thanks again Atomic!)

Recordings at Friday at 8pm EST

We're critiquing comics this time! After which, we will do read-a-longs. Want to participate? Lemme know!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Wubble on Oct 24, 2013, 12:27 AM
I'd like to participate if you don't mind finnish english.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJgMujrHjI
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Sean Patrick Kelly on Oct 24, 2013, 06:05 PM
Question 1: I like that my ink work looks rough and gritty, yet can still come off cartoonish and silly (like a tamed Robert Crumb comic, VERY tamed)
I hate that i can't draw women right. I guess i worry too much that i'll go all marvel/DC and make EVERY women look the same body type, so i make more mistakes and flubs and try too hard! "sigh" or not hard enough.

Question 2: sketch with 2H & H drawing pencil, ink with Faber Castell pens, copic multiliner pen, and once i get time to color prisma colored pencil. All on 11 in X 14 In Bristol paper, WOOT WOOT

Question 3: My mom always said "If you got a story or a character you want to make, ALWAYS PATENT THEM, so no one else can make money off your work." Don't wanna end up like Mike Judge now do we?
This isn't art related but I need to let others hears this. When I was with my dad driving down thru SouthWest Philadelphia (where he grew up), we saw that the neighborhood had gone from bad to worse since he last was here. Without looking at me he asked me, "Wanna know how you can tell it's a bad neighborhood, BUDDY?" I say what dad as I stare intently waiting. In a split second he turns his head over to look directly at me with either the most sarcastic face or serious face, with eyes wide open as he replies, " All Blacks!" Turns his head back to the road, neither of us say anything the rest of the ride, and we never bring it up again.
The funny part is he's not even rascist, in fact he threatend the staff in charge of his high school reunion 2 years ago for blatantly not inviting any of his black classmates. He said (and their are witnesses to prove it) He'll call up those who weren't sent an invitation and tell them to sue for discrimination. The reunion was cancelled that day and rescheduled weeks later, with a new staff.
So, yeah IDK what to make of that
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on Oct 24, 2013, 06:56 PM
Man I wish I could :(
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Oct 25, 2013, 03:23 AM
I gotta catch up on all the new Vcasts, but I'd love to participate too!

EDIT: OMG XD Please please PLEASE do more read alongs- they are hilarious! Also, Shen your voice is so adorably squeaky when you voice act.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Oct 25, 2013, 02:52 PM
wuta, kozi, what's your skype? :O
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Oct 28, 2013, 12:39 AM
Sorry everyone! The finished version of Vcast episode 33 will be a bit late! I'll have it uploaded within the next few days, so hang tight!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 32 EVERYONE!!
Post by: Shen on Oct 29, 2013, 10:01 PM

EDIT: OMG XD Please please PLEASE do more read alongs- they are hilarious! Also, Shen your voice is so adorably squeaky when you voice act.

NONSENSE I HAVE A SEXY SMOKY VOICE LIKE JESSICA RABBIT
Title: LATECAST EPISODE 33!!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Nov 10, 2013, 12:49 AM
Finally got around to putting the finishing touches on this (last) week's episode of VCAST!


EPISODE 33 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E%2033%20FINAL.mp3)


Kozispoon, Wu AT AT and ABI join in to talk about the topics mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: LATECAST EPISODE 33!!!
Post by: Wubble on Nov 10, 2013, 03:35 PM
Damn it's weird to hear your own voice trying to articulate a foreign language, haha
Title: Re: LATECAST EPISODE 33!!!
Post by: Pennydox on Nov 10, 2013, 04:01 PM
new question: what do you like about other voider's work? Like a compliment to another void artist's style or storytelling, and why you like it. And another one is 'what have you taken from a fellow void member?' Have you started doing a certain technique due to watching another void person do it? Picked up new materials or programs from other people in void?

oh, and what do I not like about my work?
I have a lack of creativity. I always rely on references too much, and so it's very hard for me to draw stuff straight out of my head. Issue is good for fanart, and bad for original art.
Title: Re: LATECAST EPISODE 33!!!
Post by: Shen on Nov 14, 2013, 12:39 AM
worst art advice I ever received- this is unfair because it wasn't advised to me but to a classmate by a professor in my school of character design- he said good character design for female characters, they should have a sexy "ba-dam" figure and pretty much insisted that there are no other design options for female characters or they lose appeal. my classmate went to a catholic school so she made a frumpy catholic schoolgirl and the teacher said "I visited a catholic school when i was young and there were no frumpy girls there, they all looked good!" ummmm
I actually cant think right now of whats the best advice i ever received
thanks for reviewing my comic you guys! sorry my perspective hurt your eyes, i was trying to use 3 point perspective... I worked really hard on that page but I just can't do perspective, its pretty much the best i can do =( I haven't mastered colour either. I've sort of been hyper-focusing on gesture and expression with my animation classes. But I'm glad you like the story!
OH MY GOD our readalong WE SOUND LIKE SUCH DORKS XD
abi your readalong voices are so hilarious holy crap this was the awesomest thing omg Kozi too you guys are so adorable
Title: Re: LATECAST EPISODE 33!!!
Post by: Ten Dead Kings on Nov 14, 2013, 10:07 AM
Question 2: I use Double A brand A4 sized paper. Using any other paper and the quality difference starts to get distracting. I've also started using generic black whiteboard markers to fill in large black areas. Those markers last forever.
Title: Re: LATECAST EPISODE 33!!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Nov 14, 2013, 01:44 PM
QUESTIONS

- What would be your favorite VOID battle match up and why? (If its already happened, tell us what it was!)

- Achievements and medals aside, what to you makes a void veteran?

- Do you remember being in the incubator? What was one thing (if any) you were concerned about submitting your fighter?
Title: Re: LATECAST EPISODE 33!!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Nov 25, 2013, 04:21 PM
Hey everyone! Just giving some update to VCAST


The semester's almost done on my side, just two more weeks until Christmas Break! Unfortunately because these next two weeks will be super busy, Vcast will stay a little longer on idle.


BUT, once Christmas break comes along, Vcast should get back on track! The next estimated vcast release is on Dec 15th 2013. I appreciate everyone being patient throughout my busy school life, and I hope you can hang on just a tad bit more!
Title: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 18, 2013, 03:25 AM
Episode 34 is here! (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E34.mp3)


So after quite some time, the new episode of vcast is out! we got Slade, Sabu, and Sketchfighter joining me in talking about some topics I didn't even mention!


- Achievements and medals aside, what to you makes a void veteran? (Thanks Kozi!)
- Do you remember being in the incubator? What was one thing (if any) you were concerned about submitting your fighter? (Thanks again, Kozi!)
- -What would be your favorite VOID battle match up and why? (If its already happened, tell us what it was!) (Jeez Kozi you're on fire!)
-'What have you taken from a fellow void member?' Have you started doing a certain technique due to watching another void person do it? Picked up new materials or programs from other people in void?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Dec 18, 2013, 11:35 AM
Those are the best comic readings ever I am in tears.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Jackster on Dec 18, 2013, 06:57 PM
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3791/2923.png)

Why did I draw this?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 01, 2014, 04:01 AM
Hey hey hey folks! Another year passes by and we start a-new for 2014, so to start the next and first Vcast of 2014, we're gonna do something different:


THE VCAST YEAR END SPECIAL

We're gonna talk about our favorite comics, most memorable Voider, and talk about what we plan to do for Void 2014. Hell we might even talk about something else I don't even knoooooow.

Do you want in on next Vcast? Maybe suggest what we can talk about for this Vcast? Lemme know! Post your ideas on the thread or message me.

Next expected recording time is Friday January 3rd 8pm EST. Release date will hopefully be Sunday, I'll do my best!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Wubble on Jan 01, 2014, 06:21 AM
Damn right I want in on this vcast.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 01, 2014, 11:49 PM
I don't usually signal boost any of my posts but just making sure if anyone's still interested.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Shen on Jan 02, 2014, 01:06 AM
i'm in sounds fun!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Sabulive on Jan 02, 2014, 03:28 AM
I want in but idk what time it would coincide with my time weh
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: The Bent One on Jan 02, 2014, 07:15 AM
I had a blast last time, and I totally want to come back on.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Jan 02, 2014, 10:05 AM
I've been traveling and missed the interbutts so much @_@
If this hasn't already been recorded I'm down!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Pennydox on Jan 02, 2014, 10:28 AM
Ooh, like a 'best of' or 'I remember' thing. Here's some things I wanna know:

-How often did you vote this year?
-Best moments in comics
-Most improved voiders of the year and why you think so (i think there should be highlight to multiple people)
-Most outstanding comic (storywise)
-Most outstanding comic (artwise)
-Most bizarre/surreal comic of the year
-Most romantic story of the year (i noticed a number of romantic stories this year)
-Most action packed comic (battles with intense explosions and fight scenes)
-Funniest comics of the year
-It would be cool to find the stats of the person who 1)posted the most comics in 2013, 2)coughed up the most pages in 2013, and 3)defaulted the most this year
-Coolest new character of the year
-"how it should have ended" with the tournaments: What your initial expectations were in the tournaments this year and how you thought it would have ended up if you had the story your way
-"Where are they now?" Note some voiders who have started walking in the path of art involving school, career, and accomplishments
-and lastly, what should 2014 hold (like tournaments, anthology, etc)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Atomicfish on Jan 02, 2014, 11:14 AM
I'd like to join in, if that's okay. :B
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Gregly on Jan 02, 2014, 12:26 PM
if there's no maximum number of peops i'll be down and around!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 03, 2014, 02:17 AM
Wow so many people I gotta choose from! I have space for about 5-6 people including Toxic Toothpick and I, so I think I'm gonna have to choose from random! I'll message the lucky peole who get to be part of this weeks vcast soon!


In the meantime, you can post or talk about what you thing was memorable or considers a mention on this thread guys! Pocky made a fantastic list which is definitely useful if you wanna choose who or what was the best of 2013!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Charlie on Jan 03, 2014, 04:19 PM
If you got room for ONE MORE.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: Slagglle on Jan 03, 2014, 05:01 PM
As far as best comics go, I just want to say that Jongbom killed it this year.
Title: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 07, 2014, 07:08 PM

EPISODE 35 CAN BE HEARD RIGHT HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%2035.mp3)

Thanks for being patient guys! And sorry for those who didn't get to come into this weeks episode, but if you're still up for it, I can definitely get in touch with you for future episodes coming soon!


With me this week is Toxic, Endshark, Shen, and The Bent One, as we recap what's happened this year as well as talk about other silly stuff!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Sabulive on Jan 08, 2014, 12:56 AM
'You could say it was a Hell Most Unimaginable'

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfghsdjkclsd;c

ihu
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Crafty on Jan 08, 2014, 03:15 AM
Thankyou Endshark for killing off the other Vcast members in order to prevent a read-along of Christopher Leandre vs Lesdai Grahl.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Jan 08, 2014, 04:06 AM
I'm only halfway into listening to this recent VCast, but I'm wondering if we'll be pulling any VOID awards for last year? I wanna know who Mr/Ms. Congeniality was!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: GPS-Device on Jan 08, 2014, 06:56 AM
Aw shucks you guys, I'm flattered. Maybe I'll finally improve enough that I can actually start winning more often haha
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Charlie on Jan 08, 2014, 06:10 PM
Thankyou Endshark for killing off the other Vcast members in order to prevent a read-along of Christopher Leandre vs Lesdai Grahl.

You're welcome

Edit: also I don't remember Skulls being so crazy loud when we were recording :o, then again I was super sick and can't remember a lot of what went on that night aside from the start and the end hah.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 08, 2014, 06:28 PM
Yeah it's weird. I even lowered the volume on my parts and I still came out loud. maybe the recording program was more sensitive than I thought.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: UmbrellaFrog on Jan 08, 2014, 08:14 PM
oh wow I must have listened to that part about Kruger like five times :D

Also, Hell Yeah! Vivian is totally on my must battle list, along with Wizzie and Bianca.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Field Marshal Lionel Forsythe W. Underwood XIII, GBE on Jan 08, 2014, 11:50 PM
Jolly good show! I must say though that "Je na západ cesta dlouhá" is not french but Czechoslovakian. It literally means "Journey to the West". Mostly everybody by now knows about my predilection for antiquated stuff and music, so as a public service here tonight I shall link the song thus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLMColW_r7Y . Happy New Year everyone and let's have more fun this year. Huzzah!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Fearn on Jan 09, 2014, 11:24 AM
I must say though that "Je na západ cesta dlouhá" is not french but Czechoslovakian.

I think you mean Czech... Since Czechoslovakian is not a language (or a current country) and the above is in Czech. I am really sorry, I tried to stop myself from writing this but couldn't. My 25% Czech consciousness won yet again.


To not completely waste this post to offtopicness I would like to say that these are absolutely awesome and I love listening to these! Although I am playing a heavy catch-up. It is my drawing background most of the time at the moment :)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Sean Patrick Kelly on Jan 11, 2014, 12:49 PM
WOW, I'm going to draw and write better comics just so no one forgets i BATTLED people!!
Not once but twice you guys forgot during the podcast.
But i'm glad i heard the podcast it was fun hearing everyone's excitement thinking back to all the great comics made this year. I went back to some you guys mentioned and man prettiest princess was quite a ride.
Kruger as well was a character i'd loved but not initially, at first i thought he was going to be another punk in leather who just acts like a thug. but no i read the intro, thought kruger had some good characteristics personality wise, then i read the battles and wished he was in more!
What i really loved was how everyone for the most part showed how there characters where affected by the events and changes of environments in the comics like the meteor hitting Void City, the rise of Celium City with some characters moving there, and alot of general development in characters like Wizzie, Xia, Gray, Lilyfeather, Satin, Tsumi, Sonny, Arena, P2, koosh koosh, and many others i probably forgot.
Overall less action, but deeper in characters i guess like the doonesberry comics where events over the years of the comics run would affect the characters and change and develop them, and in some cases characters would appear as a product of said events like Baku (though technically baku is this year, but you get what i mean)
SO HERE'S TO ANOTHER YEAR OF AWESOMESAUCE TO COME!!!!!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: The Bent One on Jan 11, 2014, 01:08 PM
WOW, I'm going to draw and write better comics just so no one forgets i BATTLED people!!
Not once but twice you guys forgot during the podcast.

I did mention toward the beginning that Xia had battled Doodle Dan. But yeah, do more battles this year! It's awesome to see someone pushing further onward.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Puzzlething on Jan 11, 2014, 02:08 PM
omg I was finally mentioned on vcast. I finally matter.

Great episode guys!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Evi on Jan 11, 2014, 10:06 PM
A-Ahahaha yes I somehow managed to not battle as Caps and Shift at all. but I'm very happy you all liked Onion princess! that tourney was a great experience for me and I'm glad I participated.
I SHALL USE CAPS AND SHIFT THIS YEAR I PROMISE
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Angie on Jan 11, 2014, 10:26 PM
You need to make a battle with them because I need a comic of nothing but Tab loafing.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 12, 2014, 07:06 AM
You need to make a battle with them because I need a comic of nothing but Tab loafing.
We need a Loaf Royale this year.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Wolcik on Jan 13, 2014, 01:29 PM
Just listened to the last episode,
In my acceptance speech as 8th page producer of Void I'd like tot thank Le Fred who increased that number. To be 100% honest I forgot how fun I had with the tourney and all the impactless BBs I did - everything went to hell after the Scarmageddon II... I'm working on that webcomics though.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 14, 2014, 02:40 PM
Hey guys! Sorry for such a slow update on vcast. you know the story, school keeping me busy and I'm technically strapped for cash BUT ANYHOW


I'm going to get episode 36 started up maybe tomorrow or sunday, and may be released monday, as it's the long weekend here on my side. I'll be picking people to get the next episode rolling, but just to let you guys know what the topics may be:


-MASTER OF DISASTER was a success! Great effort all around. What was your favorite comic to read?
-We're critiquing your stuff too though! Be prepared for some pros and cons of your entries! (We'll critique other battles up as well)
-maybe some radio drama of said event.


Stay tuned!

Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Feb 14, 2014, 03:14 PM
Ooh Sounds good! Can't waiiit!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Pennydox on Feb 14, 2014, 05:00 PM
kinda random here, but it would be nice for you to talk about your first-time-in-college experience skulls! Life as an animation student at an l337 college for animation.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 14, 2014, 05:38 PM
Sure if anyone's interested in hearing what the Animation program's like at Sheridan, I can talk about it :D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: MyHatsEatPeople on Feb 14, 2014, 08:45 PM
Oh I can't wait for my comic to get some crit! ( what little I managed to do)

Another question - if you need one - could be how do you go about self-promoting your artwork and possibly hints and tips (dos and donts) of commission work.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: fel/P2 on Feb 15, 2014, 08:27 AM
Oh I can't wait for my comic to get some crit! ( what little I managed to do)

Another question - if you need one - could be how do you go about self-promoting your artwork and possibly hints and tips (dos and donts) of commission work.
I actually have talked to skulls about doing something detailed about promoting and commission hunting.......wayyyyyyyyyyy to much to write though. I could go on for days.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 35 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 15, 2014, 08:38 AM
We could talk about that too! Though I just started out and I can only say so far for whatever experience I got is plan the fuck ahead when it comes to pricing your stuff. People could ask how much for something specific and you'll have to know what answer to give :'D


Fel you could totally do a guide/suggestion thread sometime. I'm sure some of us would be interested in how to start out.
Title: VCAST update: Delays until the 20th
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 06, 2014, 10:34 AM
Sorry to suddenly update this with no episode, folks. As some of you might have heard before, college has been intense these past few months, and I'm still only half way through Episode 36 in editing. I apologize to everyone who was in Episode 36 for not having it up at this point, and sorry for everyone else who was waiting.


With that said, my semester is almost over, the 18th being my final day of Year 1 of my course. April 20th is the date I will have Episode 36 released

I can't apologize enough for doing this, but I hope you guys can wait just a bit longer until Vcast comes back to it's regular schedule.
Title: Re: VCAST update: Delays until the 20th
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 23, 2014, 10:13 PM
OKay, so after such a long time and a lot of school work outta the way:


EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E36.mp3)


DrasticFantastic, Mister Kent, Pyras, and I talk about some stuff from beyond the past (read probably months ago) My mic apparently was louder than everyone else's in this recording, so I had to adjust the volumes a bit to make it equal.


This is mostly focusing on the now past Master of Disaster, as the time I was recording this was conflicting with school work. Hope you don't mind! Thanks for being patient in the end guys.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Shen on Apr 23, 2014, 11:44 PM
this is by default the best Vcast because there was a sing-a-long.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 24, 2014, 12:41 AM
I wish my mic wasn't so loud and made it 5000x more horrible than it needed to be :'D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Chimaeric on Apr 24, 2014, 11:41 AM
looking forwards to the next v-cast on armageddon :3
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Fred v2.0.1 on Apr 29, 2014, 11:45 AM
that was some truly beautiful singing from you guys!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Apr 29, 2014, 05:49 PM
VCAST EPSIODE 37 is Scheduled for Saturday May 3rd at 8pm EST


We will be taking about:
-Armageddon! Shit hasn't happened in years, let's talk about it
-Upheaval is an ongoing unofficial event that has people making comics for! How hyped/not hyped are you for it? (I'm not biased I swear)
- It's also Free Comic Book Day on the day vcast is recording. Did anyone go out to get their free comics, and if so, what comic did you get?


Relatively short questions with possible short answers, after that we'll be doing some read-a-longs.


People in This Vcast so far:
-DrasticFantastic
-Pyras
-CrackingSkulls


I have room for just one more guest! If you're interested, lemme know!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Apr 29, 2014, 08:27 PM
I'll try to be there! Maybe get another sing-along started!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Shen on Apr 29, 2014, 09:09 PM
meeeeee?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Julz on Apr 30, 2014, 04:01 PM
or me if not shen. My mic works. And I have like all of next week off prolly
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Sabulive on Apr 30, 2014, 07:51 PM
YOU ARE HOLDING THAT PLACE FOR ME, MY LIL CRACKWHORE
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: PyrasTerran on Apr 30, 2014, 08:10 PM
So (read: too) many great choices for the fourth V_V
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Shen on Apr 30, 2014, 09:15 PM
you know what i will just do the next one lol, I dont really want to review my own comic anyhow XD
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 36 IS FINALLY HERE!!
Post by: Bobo on May 26, 2014, 07:27 AM
*Marks as unread so I can actually get around to listening to all of these!*
Title: VCAST EPISODE 37!!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 27, 2014, 08:01 PM
SORRY FOR THE DELAY AGAIN. VCAST EPISODE 37 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E37.mp3)


Pyras, toxic, and sabu join me in talking about whatever we talked abut the last few weeks ago, I got a little held up this time duie to ARMAGEDDON 2014 so hope you'll forgive me!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 37!!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on May 28, 2014, 06:22 PM
just gonna bump this back up just in case no one else is aware.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 37!!!
Post by: Shen on May 28, 2014, 08:30 PM
well i fucking DIED, thanks for the vote of confidence you guys! XD Sabs, you were right, that was exactly the face I was making LOL! ps, readalongs were HILARIOUS as usual!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 37!!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Aug 10, 2014, 08:19 PM
So as a lot of people might have guessed, Vcast hasn't updated in some time. I've mostly been dealing with real life stuff, mostly finding a form of income and getting ready to go back to school soon.


So here's what I'm gonna do: Vcast will still be on hold for another 2 more weeks and I will record on Saturday August 30th. I will have topics posted this coming Saturday and from there I'll have a few people come in to discuss said topics.


In the meantime I wanna ask a question to you guys. We have critiqued comics in the past, but there are at times where there's a lot of comics to critique and not enough time to cover them all. When this happens, we turn to doing radio drama or read-a-longs of the comics to still give acknowledgement and entertainment, but what I'm asking is that, which would you guys prefer over the other? They're both great in my opinion but hearing it from you guys would help me out in understanding what you guys wanna hear the most when listening to those bits.
Title: Re: VCAST UPDATE (10/08/2014)
Post by: Pennydox on Aug 10, 2014, 09:03 PM
honestly, critiques are more important for me. Even if it's not my comic, I always absorb what you guys say. The read-a-longs  should be left if there aren't many comics to read (like only one or two that week).
Title: Re: VCAST UPDATE (10/08/2014)
Post by: PyrasTerran on Aug 10, 2014, 10:14 PM
I agree that read-a-longs can be reserve for whenever we don't have enough comics to review~
Title: Re: VCAST UPDATE (10/08/2014)
Post by: Kozispoon on Aug 10, 2014, 11:55 PM
Updated on my birthday?? I'll consider this a gift from the Void. :D

*settles in for a listen*
Title: Re: VCAST UPDATE (10/08/2014)
Post by: Jiisuri on Aug 11, 2014, 05:55 PM
I like em both but have personal bias over readalongs, hurr.

Also I shall propose a randomised system.
Title: Re: VCAST UPDATE (10/08/2014)
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Aug 24, 2014, 12:20 PM
This was supposed to be posted yesterday, but I kinda messed up so HEY here are the topics for this coming saturday's vcast:

-Catching up on what's been going on in void: Armaggeddon, Black and Blue, new characters, etc.
-What's more important to you when it comes to comics: art or writing?(Thanks, atomic!)
- Any advice you can give to the new-comers in void? What would you like to see from them in their future comics?

depending on the comics posted in the future, we will be doing critiques or radio drama, so be prepared!  I have a few people in mind to ask to join in but feel free to volunteer! I'll randomly select volunteers to join vcast
Title: Re: VCAST UPDATE (10/08/2014)
Post by: Pennydox on Aug 24, 2014, 05:02 PM
There was a discussion last night on google hangout, and I really want some elaboration on it and i think people in void, especially new people would find it constructive:

In void, when making your character, what kind of stories are often written? I remember you guys talking about characters that have slowly developed plots, or some characters just being canon, etc. What makes for a good character in these situations? Preferences?
Title: Re: VCAST UPDATE (10/08/2014)
Post by: Chimaeric on Aug 24, 2014, 06:22 PM
With comics, its more complicated than choosing between art or writing, but ultimately it comes down to writing and here is why:
all the best writing in the world can't save a story if the storyteller sucks at telling a story.  You also don't need mind-blowing art to create an awesome comic (example: xkcd), but the way to tell a story in a comic is through a combination of images and writing (sometimes you don't even need writing, example: Gon). The image is the atomic structure of this economy of plot. Its not about how well an image is drawn, but how an image proceeds with the economy of plot to portray a scene.
And that's just a panel.
When i say "economy of plot" (my own term), i mean the totality of description that can exist within an image to describe what is going on. Often times, panels must work with other panels to achieve this, and this is mostly seen in strips and pages. The economy of plot then extends to a larger composition than just a single panel, and a single bad image within that composition can throw off the reader. And of course, pages work with chapters, and chapters work to bring an entire story together though a book or a series of books.
When you see comics as books, then its easier to make the assumption that the writing is more important. If the writing falters on a lengthy series it will turn off the readership. Meanwhile, switching an artist with another is equally mid-way through the series can be equally disastrous but not always (example: hellboy: darkness calls drawn by Duncan Fegredo). With that hellboy example though, Mike Mignola still played a huge part in writing it, even though it was largely drawn by Duncan Fegedo.

My advice to void new-comers is to create a character that is easy for people to challenge. Also, don't bother creating a character with a long-ass history- it will just make your character inflexible to character development if you're interested in using battles as canon.
Title: Re: VCAST UPDATE (10/08/2014)
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Aug 28, 2014, 09:48 PM
Just a heads up! VCAST is recording Saturday. If anyone wants to join in or suggest a topic feel free!
Title: Re: VCAST UPDATE (10/08/2014)
Post by: Jiisuri on Aug 30, 2014, 03:30 PM
Am free to pop in if the recording begins early enough~

This being said in the early reaches of the morning when my parents just unintentionally locked me in this one room.
Title: VCAST EPISODE 38!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Sep 05, 2014, 06:45 PM
EPISODE 38 IS HERE (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast38.mp3)


Me, shen and jiisuri catch up on events since the last episode and discuss topics mentioned earlier
Title: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Sep 06, 2014, 09:32 PM
EPISODE 39 IS SUPER EARLY (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast39f.mp3)


Surprise! Sabu, Kura, Mamoru and I bring you an up to date episode of the events in the site a day after the previous episode
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Red on Sep 06, 2014, 11:36 PM
Naming them the Lunatics was intentional hahah! Thanks for the words! :D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Sep 07, 2014, 11:24 AM
Kura are you super cereal about the pun-based SDT? I may need to pull something out of my arsenal
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Pennydox on Sep 07, 2014, 03:11 PM
since so many old voiders are being revived in SDT, it would be really cool to interview or have them in the next vcast about their experience 'in the old days' of void, and what they think of now.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Majikura on Sep 07, 2014, 03:27 PM
Kura are you super cereal about the pun-based SDT? I may need to pull something out of my arsenal

I'm mulling over it, I wanted it to happen sometime before month of the dead but with the restrictions of it not being an official tournament people would need to submit intro pages... and even if that took a single week to do, there's only be two weeks to do a death royale before october... running it during october is not an option, since month of the dead happens on that time.

the timeframe for this is all wrong.  might have to wait till november.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: sheldon on Sep 08, 2014, 04:55 AM
Aussie girl: "...We've got a different sort of generation, a different sort of thinking..."

Yeah a pussy generation.

Aussie girl: "...No we're not fucking babies, we're fucking human beings..."

Yeah, human beings with no work ethic who act like babies.

Aussie girl: "...and even though I'M personally OK with it..."

LOL.


Preachy American Dude: "Commission Analogy"

LOL.



God I would love to debate.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: stefan on Sep 08, 2014, 05:06 AM
hahaha,good to see you here Sheldon
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: sheldon on Sep 08, 2014, 05:38 AM
haha I missed it around here man. Good to see you still here too.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Minteh on Sep 08, 2014, 07:53 AM
I feel like a better analogy would be a legal document - if you don't read the fine print, or think the fine print does not apply to you, then when you get burned by it you have no one to blame but yourself. 

The fact of the matter is the rules clearly stated that any public shaming could occur. That doesn't need to be specific, and if you wanted specifics, you probably should have asked instead of making assumptions.

To be honest, Kura's analogy makes more sense if we flip it and say an artist agreed to commission something within four weeks, and then didn't turn anything in.  You paid for a four week rush job and they haven't even started.

In any case, the Vcast was a good episode, minus that conversation. I'm a little sad you weren't able to go over all the comics in Short and Sweet, but then again that's a pretty tall order.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Majikura on Sep 08, 2014, 09:25 AM
sheldon, i am not afraid to voice my opinion anymore. no matter how dumb or stupid they are.  this isnt even about me anyways so fuck off.  you aren't going to distract everyone from the real issue here.


What I should have said is that if we're here to have fun, we shouldn't be FORCED to have fun.  Which is what I believe is the stance that's being taken here.  You want a better analogy? Fine.

Just because some kids are using the jungle gym to just hang out and gossip instead of pretending its a pirate ship doesn't mean you can go in and say "You aren't playing the way I want so you better play pirates until I'm satisfied." If you want people to play on your playground, you make the playground more appealing.


The fine print on the tournament said public shaming was going to happen.  The dumb avatar change does not bother me.  That was fine.

The fine print does not mention "Work until I am pleased".  That was thrown in last minute.  That doesn't encourage people to draw.  That encourages them to leave.


or we can scream like monkeys and kangaroos and make fun of my shitty art, scare off everyone and then wonder why there's no activity here.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Minteh on Sep 08, 2014, 12:16 PM
Thanks for clarifying that kura, I am way more behind your point after reading that (for real). I feel your point might have gotten a little lost with all of the passionate statements getting thrown around when I was listening to the VCast, and those statements influenced what you were saying, at least when I was interpreting in my mind.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 08, 2014, 12:27 PM
The fine print on the tournament said public shaming was going to happen.  The dumb avatar change does not bother me.  That was fine.

The fine print does not mention "Work until I am pleased".  That was thrown in last minute.  That doesn't encourage people to draw.  That encourages them to leave.

That is sort of how I thought of it.

I'm going to be honest, though. That podcast made me laugh a lot.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Phill on Sep 08, 2014, 01:37 PM
Aussie girl: "...We've got a different sort of generation, a different sort of thinking..."

Yeah a pussy generation.

Aussie girl: "...No we're not fucking babies, we're fucking human beings..."

Yeah, human beings with no work ethic who act like babies.

Aussie girl: "...and even though I'M personally OK with it..."

LOL.


Preachy American Dude: "Commission Analogy"

LOL.



God I would love to debate.

Sheldon you glorious bastard, you're as blunt as a fucking wet towel around a baseball bat, and pretty damn effective. I fucking miss ya and the rest of the site!


I feel like I should also add something to this instead of just being nostalgic. After listening to this podcast, I'm going to address the word "Fun" that just kept on being thrown around, way back before I first joined, it wasn't about having fun at the end of the day, it was about learning and improving your skills to the point that if you were good enough, you could land any art job you set your mind to, whether it's comics, or whatever. After finishing your comic, you can only hope that other people saw said improvement and hoped that your opponent didn't just make your stuff look like something they would of mistaken for toilet paper.

I've been away for years, and I don't regret it. Void however was fun in it's own way, it was interesting to see people's reactions and responses to your work for better or for worse, and believe me, I'd rather have an avatar change for the times I've neglected to finish a comic, or just wrote something absolutely abysmal, instead of the harsh disappointment and resentment I got over the years. But you kids want to know something interesting...

That kind of harsh treatment and life lessons tends to get some very good results if you stick with it hard enough, and don't bitch about the small shit. I'm a graphic artist/comic book artist/video game item designer, who's competent enough to earn a living through drawing. I only wish more of you would come to respect the kind of harsh treatment you get, nobody is trying to hurt ya, they just expect better of ya.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Sabulive on Sep 08, 2014, 10:36 PM
I like how people who are basically has-beens and old fogies think they know shit about void after being away for years :) Because it seems that all these years have deteriorated your hearing. I did say I was okay with a dumb baby icon. I'm okay with that shaming, its funny shaming. Yes it was mentioned in the rules that defaulters will be named and shamed, and they will be punished.

It would have been even better if that was said BEFORE THE THING HAD STARTED. On the signup post at the very fucking beginning. No one likes to have a rule sprung on at the end; especially one that says "Draw more comics to get rid of this title that someone suggested as a joke" (basically what Kura said above me). This whole situation has been poorly handled and we are right to complain about it.

And Phill, if you honestly wanted us to learn our shit, I can assure you, running in and yelling PUSSSY!!!!1!!!111!!! is not the way to do it. I'm glad them good old days were rough on you and taught you your shit, Im glad you can feed yourself through your drawings.

But if you HONESTLY think that Sheldon's behaviour is supposed to toughen us up and makes us want to stick around, if you honestly think that calling the new crowd here 'pussies' because we are not getting in a battle every other week, and making gritty batman stories about people punching others, then how about you stick around?

Stick around for a long while, teach this new crowd about them good old days. Show us you really care about Void and its population, rather than coming in once in a blue moon, complain, then walk out.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Chimaeric on Sep 08, 2014, 11:36 PM
you should also accept my death match challenge Phil. That would be pretty awesome.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 08, 2014, 11:58 PM
But if you HONESTLY think that Sheldon's behaviour is supposed to toughen us up and makes us want to stick around

He wasn't talking about Sheldon.

And shit, if these guys are what you consider has-beens, I wish I was a has-been.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Chimaeric on Sep 09, 2014, 12:00 AM
but you could still be!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 09, 2014, 12:02 AM
One day, Jong. One day!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: sheldon on Sep 09, 2014, 12:04 AM
Stick around for a long while, teach this new crowd about them good old days. Show us you really care about Void and its population, rather than coming in once in a blue moon, complain, then walk out.

Well, I would but you see, life gets in the way, and things just come up, and my dog keeps eating all of my homework, so on, so on, etc, etc.

When faced with a penalty, regardless of it's fairness, two kinds of people will react in two very different ways. Person A will be angry, but will eventually accept that it was his/her behaviour that earned him that penalty in the first place, and in the future, better him/herself as a result. Person B will get mad, and stay mad, and focus so intensely on the injustice they have been dealt and spend all their energy crying and yelling, screaming and typing about how unfair life is, that they do nothing, achieve nothing, accomplish nothing, and eventually become nothing. And are all the more frustrated because of it.

Of course it is unrealistic for VOID to stay the way it was when I was here. But the old school VOID is what made me the professional I am today, and I know it could do more for others. Sadly, the rate of success stories produced from VOID get smaller and smaller with every new batch of people that come through the place (I would love to be proven wrong on this point). While things like shipping jams, and lovechild jams and other such bullshit becomes more prevalent.

It's sad. It really is.

Changing the conditions of a bet is just bad sportsmanship, and super unfair. But if the penalty was "YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM THE SITE" then i would be able to relate to the outrage. "Please show us you are capable of finishing something" is a lesson you will only thank us for 10 years from now when your art is able to provide for you and your sons and your daughters.

And hey, if people who can't finish things can't get over it and leave, then VOID will be a better place for it. VOID will be populated only by hungry, productive, and motivating people, instead of the aptly term 'dumb babies'.

So instead of whining, let me quote a great man and tell you, "You should be drawing."













TL;DR

Pussies Bitch. Artists Draw.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: sheldon on Sep 09, 2014, 12:05 AM
But if you HONESTLY think that Sheldon's behaviour is supposed to toughen us up and makes us want to stick around

He wasn't talking about Sheldon.

And shit, if these guys are what you consider has-beens, I wish I was a has-been.

DO I REALLY NEED TO POST MY RESUME ON HERE??? DO I NEED TO POST A BITCH, JUSTIN???
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Jiisuri on Sep 09, 2014, 12:22 AM
Pretty sure the argument here is the thing that happened where instead of the penalty being say "Ok we're gonna make sure he feels the SHAAAME and gets motivated to prove us wrong" to "Ok we're gonna SHANK EM WITH A BABY KNIFE AND FORCE HIM TO REMOVE IT BY HIMSELF" at the last minute without it being agreed on officially.

Also, calling people pussies just makes you sound immature bro. Really losing it's impact these days.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: 4:00am on Sep 09, 2014, 12:31 AM
But if you HONESTLY think that Sheldon's behaviour is supposed to toughen us up and makes us want to stick around

He wasn't talking about Sheldon.

And shit, if these guys are what you consider has-beens, I wish I was a has-been.

DO I REALLY NEED TO POST MY RESUME ON HERE??? DO I NEED TO POST A BITCH, JUSTIN???



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ..........WOW!!!

Nah man,I'm pretty sure you can keep Ninja turtles, Super Tron,Deadpool,Meathaus,Kill Audio, etc 
to yourself  You Fucking Has Been!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 09, 2014, 12:33 AM
DO I REALLY NEED TO POST MY RESUME ON HERE??? DO I NEED TO POST A BITCH, JUSTIN???
I wouldn't want to see anyone getting embarrassed.


Also, calling people pussies just makes you sound immature bro.
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That is actually a term of endearment from Sheld.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Sabulive on Sep 09, 2014, 12:34 AM
But people aren;t complaining about the penalty itself...

BUT THE FACT IT WAS SUDDENLY SPRUNG ON THEM. This is what I'm mad about, this is what truly annoys me. I am with you the entire way considering the state of people defaulting and what not. If someone truly cannot get over the fact their icon is now a dumb baby and leave, thats fine, I dont need that kind of negativity in my life. I'd like people to complete things on time as well, it's a very swell plan that obviously has healthy benefits.

I hope future matches feature more penalties to discourage defaults, but hey, a small heads up on the consequences would be nice.

TL;DR
We are not mad about the penalty, we are mad that it was sprung at the end without warning goddammit
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Jiisuri on Sep 09, 2014, 12:36 AM
DO I REALLY NEED TO POST MY RESUME ON HERE??? DO I NEED TO POST A BITCH, JUSTIN???
I wouldn't want to see anyone getting embarrassed.


Also, calling people pussies just makes you sound immature bro.
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That is actually a term of endearment from Sheld.

Ah, okay.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: sheldon on Sep 09, 2014, 12:54 AM
TL;DR
We are not mad about the penalty, we are mad that it was sprung at the end without warning goddammit

Well that's a dumb thing to get mad about.

Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 09, 2014, 01:00 AM
TL;DR
We are not mad about the penalty, we are mad that it was sprung at the end without warning goddammit

I don't like defending this, because I honestly don't like how it was handled, but the rules stated there would be a chance of public shaming, and there was a warning before the drawing time ended (with plenty of time to finish a comic) that this would happen. No one complained about it beforehand as far as I can see.

And, I know the complaint is also about the initial post being vague, but what do people think a public shaming is? Just boohooing in the comments sure isn't.

And, again, I do side with your opinions somewhat (Though, the anger about it is baffling.. It's a stupid, silly baby icon, for fucks sake).

Long story short; whatever. You live, you learn (..maybe?). Some things don't go over well. All anyone can do now is go back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: sheldon on Sep 09, 2014, 01:19 AM
A lot of this feels like you cheat on a girl, and the girl finds out, and the girl confronts you and says:

"I'm not angry because you cheated, I'm angry because YOU LIED."

Haha. Just be honest, stop displacing your anger and realise you're just mad at yourself for flunking on a 4 week deadline, and now people are (rightfully) goofing on you.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Sabulive on Sep 09, 2014, 02:32 AM
Haha. Just be honest, stop displacing your anger and realise you're just mad at yourself for flunking on a 4 week deadline, and now people are (rightfully) goofing on you.

You poor ole fogie, you lost your eyesight as well!

I wasn't part of Short and Sweet at all. I didn't sign up for it due to University.

It's okay gramps, you're forgiven
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: sheldon on Sep 09, 2014, 03:31 AM
HAHAHAHA UNIVERSITY??? No wonder you're being so cunty.

Come talk to me when life has fucked some sense into you.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Sabulive on Sep 09, 2014, 05:03 AM
HAHAHAHA UNIVERSITY??? No wonder you're being so cunty.

Come talk to me when life has fucked some sense into you.

Aw thats adorable! You assume you know my life! Gosh how cute!

Warms the cockles of my heart, truly does~
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Slagglle on Sep 09, 2014, 05:25 AM
Just kiss already.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Sabulive on Sep 09, 2014, 05:47 AM
Oh please, Slagglle. Settle with that? I can do so much better
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Minteh on Sep 09, 2014, 07:28 AM
Personally speaking, if the icon itself doesn't bother you, then the conditions to remove the icon (and title) also should not bother you. 

In the end, this site is all about making comics.  Everyone involved in Short and Sweet can, and should, be getting into more battles in the future.  They can take the time to compose themselves, think about what they want to draw, don't need to use any theme, and put up any comic three pages or longer, within a four week drawing time.

Well, shit.  That's what we're here to do anyways. It's almost like nothing's changed except for the Dumb Baby icons that everyone's "not" complaining about.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 09, 2014, 10:09 AM
I feel I need to do some non-comic critiquing, as I've been seeing some weak ass insults flying around. They're mostly at sheld right now, so I will use him as an example.

Know your opponent!


If it's nonsense, push it: While calling someone under 30 grandpa, is actually pretty hilarious in concept (sab gets some points for that), it cuts off too soon. Keep going! Ask where his walker is, or if he needs help crossing the street. The hearing question is a nice touch, but it can be pushed even more.

Fight fire with fire: In this case, reply with a lot of funny, potty words. "Dickhole", "Assface" are both swears, yet silly sounding enough to match in immaturity.

Lighten up, and happy insulting.

ps: don't hate me, sheldon :*
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Wei Ingnan on Sep 09, 2014, 11:31 AM
I apologize for continuing this discussion here as opposed to the thread for the event...but you have opened yourself up by discussing the topic here and correctly using it as a forum for your podcast...still my apologies

I can understand and appreciate not liking the method or manner in which the tiny slap on the wrist was delivered....and the method and manner was solely my doing even if the actual 'shame' and it's application was decided by discussion with all the Staff over a few days....and nobody there or anywhere else has offered an alternate solution to the issues that it or the event itself was addressing
I expected a negative response to ANY action taken....thats always a given around here..punitive or otherwise.....but I certainly did not expect anything so unrepresentitve of what has taken place as some of the responses I have read over the last few days....or so condescending, uninformed and insulting......mostly coming from the people screaming and crying that VOID isn't like that anymore.

If anything it is only too similar to how it was before....except it is now the Staff that receives and suffers most of the abuse....and people are less open about.....oh and there were more comics and comments too....if any of that is actually at all important to anyone else.

Stick around for a long while, teach this new crowd about them good old days. Show us you really care about Void and its population, rather than coming in once in a blue moon, complain, then walk out.
I also wanted to point out that your requirements above are actually a more than fair description of me, at least it is better applied to me than anyone else. So by the logic you present I am the most qualified to comment or have opinions about this community....or that mine are the most valid.
...except that last part about walking in and out....that's most of you....especially when compared to me.
At least that is the case if I am to take you or your words seriously....unlike Kura who is so wrapped up in nerd rage and 'sour grapes dating back years all the way to this year's Armageddon...that he is saying his opinions are dumb and he wants people to listen to him anyways...or accuse me of treating people like children in one breath and using a playground metaphor in the next....not really sure how anyone could take that seriously.

Finally, while I am happy to hear opinions from everyone and that people feel welcomed to do so...I am surprised that no one but me has pointed out that in fact we have heard from very few of the actual people affected....and even of those that we have heard from the responses are 50/50 on the whole thing......and disappointed that there isn't at least an equal amount of passion or fervor over the comics that were submitted for the event or even on a regular basis....if anyone actually cares about that.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix) on Sep 09, 2014, 01:28 PM
I think I mentioned it a few times, here and there too.... if the people that it applies to don't even give a crap.... then why do people who it does not apply to, and who weren't even involved, care SO passionately about it? From what I understand, a LOT of them haven't even signed on tot he site since BEFORE the deadline, and haven't been back since, so clearly they really into this whole thing from the start, and this is GREATLY affecting them, right?

I believe that the ACTUAL issue (any changes that may or may not have been made after drawing started) has been addressed and dealt with. It should have ended there. However I think some people may be taking the opportunity to use the "punishment" that was dealt to make a soap box to stand on for the way that THEY want to be treated should THEY ever default.... and while that is all well and good, if you weren't affected, or weren't even involved.... when why are you even worried about it? Especially when, for the most part as I can see it, these people AGREED to this, and still did not hold up their end. And if they want it take off their icon... it would be VERY easy for them to do so. And on the same note, said punishment would NOT happen to anyone else who did not knowingly sign up for it and then also default.

Why can't we just Judge Judy this whole "argument" right now?

VOID - You will be more clear, if need be, on detailing any sort of repercussions that can/will be dealt to people who do not preform the tasks that they WILLINGLY signed up to complete. You will not change any sort or rules or regulations after the event has begun, with a possible exception being if authorization is given from ALL participants to make said change if they all agree to it. It would be the responsibility of VOID to contact these artists, and get a confirmation or verification from them if such an event were to occur, and not just assume the artists will see the forum before time is up.

EVENT ARTISTS - You will not complain if you sign up for an event with clearly stated repercussions, fail to preform, and have said repercussions applied to you. It will be your responsibility to take any corrective action, if needed, if it applies to you. You will also be STRONGLY encouraged to COMMUNICATE any thoughts you have going in, so that you can have any concerns ironed out BEFORE hand, so that there will not be issues like this again after the fact.


....I mean, unless people weren't being truthful when they said this WASN'T about the dumb-baby part of it at all, doesn't this solve the problem? Unless I am missing something?

Which I probably am.



Afterall, I'm even older than Sheldon, so by all accounts I am pretty much elderly, if not one foot in the grave already. :-)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix) on Sep 09, 2014, 01:31 PM
I feel I need to do some non-comic critiquing, as I've been seeing some weak ass insults flying around. They're mostly at sheld right now, so I will use him as an example.

Know your opponent!

  • Sheldon is Australian: Call him Fosters, Bloomin' Onion, etc. Ask if a dingo ate his baby.
  • Sheldon likes Hockey: Tell him the King's suck.
  • Sheldon is short: Ask if he needs help reaching anything.
  • Sheldon is hairy, yet potentially losing hair: Call him a furry/anthro. Ask if his hair is relocating to his body.

If it's nonsense, push it: While calling someone under 30 grandpa, is actually pretty hilarious in concept (sab gets some points for that), it cuts off too soon. Keep going! Ask where his walker is, or if he needs help crossing the street. The hearing question is a nice touch, but it can be pushed even more.

Fight fire with fire: In this case, reply with a lot of funny, potty words. "Dickhole", "Assface" are both swears, yet silly sounding enough to match in immaturity.

Lighten up, and happy insulting.

ps: don't hate me, sheldon :*



Also, just had to mention... Justin.... this is the best. Having lived with Sheldon for like six months, I can definitely attest that most, if not all of these, are 100% accurate.

And if none of these work, threaten him with ghosts. Ghost children to be exact. He REALLY doesn't like those...
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: sheldon on Sep 09, 2014, 03:52 PM

Oh never. I could never hate what is basically a bashful hipster android with the ability to grow a beard. CAN YOU LOVE, MACHINE MAN? Or at the moment of ecstasy, do you just merely shrug and mutter "...thanks."
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Sep 09, 2014, 03:58 PM
Ooh burn +1 (emulates the Michael Jackson popcorn avatar)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 09, 2014, 04:05 PM
That is pretty accurate.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: sheldon on Sep 09, 2014, 04:12 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: neens on Sep 09, 2014, 04:45 PM
too real
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Angie on Sep 11, 2014, 12:23 PM
I was gone a month and come back to this haha It's going to take me a year to get through all these mountains of juicy posts.

(nice to see you Sheldon, I was really excited when I saw you did a cover for the TMNT book I work on)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Bobo on Sep 11, 2014, 01:03 PM
You know what, I've thought about it Sheldon and I've decided that you can just run along back to your little high-profile art endeavors and leave the real work to us VOID hobbyists. You're too old to take on this grown-up stuff now.

In other news, hi I'm Bobo I don't think we ever met because I was just a baby when you were active, but I've heard of your reputation and it's fun having you old geezers back around for a while.

Personally, I'm kind of on both sides of this debate. I'm not going to lie; I was totally on board with the Dumb Baby icon, AND I think Wei's requirements for removing it are totally fair AND I think some people (really just one, but I won't mention any names because it doesn't really matter) are being complete crybabies. On the other hand, VOID has changed a lot since Sheldon, Dan, and some of you other VOID Ancients were active. I joined in 2005, and I can tell you that I got quite a beating just getting Ancelin accepted. People totally bashed me when I posted an existing OC with a full page of backstory, mocked me to shame when I posted a bio (without art, if you can believe it!) of a chaotic good goblin character, and just generally tore me apart when I submitted crappy artwork.

BUT DAMN IT IF THAT BEATING DIDN'T MAKE ME EVERYTHING I AM TODAY AS AN ARTIST!

I'm not saying we all need to be little Sheldons, trying to prove we're not just ugly kangaroos with koalas up our asses chucking boomerangs (sorry, I'm not good at trash talk) and insulting people who are being complete dumbasses, but I AM saying that you're never going to get anywhere if you spend all your time getting offended at everything. I'm grateful for the assholes who made fun of my crappy early comics and who ass-raped* me until I believed that defaulting was worse than death and who wouldn't let me freaking rest for a second until I got my character submission at least a little bit acceptable (I kind of wish they'd pushed me harder, to be honest, but I'm glad I finally got accepted anyway).

So for you tender-hearted VOIDers out there taking up arms against the Evil Overlords who are causing all the problems (and I really like and respect all of you, so I hope this doesn't feel sarcastic or insulting), just relax. The Council and Staff listen to your suggestions, take your opinions into consideration, and always try to do what's best for the community. They're going to make mistakes sometimes, you're going to be WRONG sometimes, and sometimes you'll just disagree with what the mods do in general. Guess what? That's how life works! Voice your opinion, try to convince staff members that you're right if that's your thing, but if things don't work out, just move on. It probably won't matter after a month or so anyway. Just go draw something; it'll be fine.

"Ass-raping" may or may not refer to actually just giving defaulters tongue-lashings often enough that I didn't want to become one.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 11, 2014, 01:12 PM
Some of you guys need your memories checked.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Bobo on Sep 12, 2014, 06:55 AM
Some of you guys don't know that some of us guys have perfect memories and everyone else is just wrong okay?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Angie on Sep 12, 2014, 10:28 AM
Well, I'm not gonna lie and act like I was a cool hard ass that sees old Void with nostalgia glasses. I got declined 3 times trying to get into Void and I joined as Culmination (the all furries must die movement) was going on. I got made fun of all the time and yes, a lot of it made me sad or angry because I totally take things personally.

But I'm one of those weird people that uses depression and rage as a motivator. There's very little on this planet I like more than proving people that doubt me wrong. Being mad at people for either making fun of me or leaving a super harsh comment on my battles motivated me to bust ass to try to prove them wrong. I mean dude, during when I was most active battle wise was when I was a full time student in art school and also had a full time job, if people weren't making me mad I probably wouldn't have been able to have 0 incompletes and 0 defaults in my entire history on Void. (which is why there is no one on this planet that rolls their eyes harder than I do when I see someone turn in unfinished work or default, please tell me about this having a life thing.)

And now I'm a full time professional comic colorist. Void taught me to stay motivated regardless of how much people or life got me down. I understand that not everyone can be like me and turn depression or anger into a motivator. But it's important to remember that life will not always stop for you. Void should be no one's life, but it's nice to have something with no real consequences to train you to keep on chugging when shit hits the fan. Outside of a death in the immediate family, jobs, editors, the world will not stop if you're having a rough day or your dog ate your presentation.

If someone on Void makes you mad it's always better to not respond and to instead use any anger you have towards them to beat the shit out of comics. Making an angry reply will always add fuel to the fire when you'll do more damage by churning out an awesome piece of art and showing that no, you don't suck.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 12, 2014, 11:02 AM
Some of you guys don't know that some of us guys have perfect memories and everyone else is just wrong okay?

That's not even what I said, but everyone is trying to turn this into something it is not. Old vs new with all kinds of made up facts.. fuck that stupid shit, just make comics.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Jed on Sep 12, 2014, 12:37 PM
Deep down, aren't we all Dumb Babies on the inside?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Bobo on Sep 12, 2014, 02:52 PM
Some of you guys don't know that some of us guys have perfect memories and everyone else is just wrong okay?

That's not even what I said, but everyone is trying to turn this into something it is not. Old vs new with all kinds of made up facts.. fuck that stupid shit, just make comics.
Oh, my bad, that's not how I meant that to sound. I was just being dumb. I'm the one with the perfect memory and you're the one who's wrong. That's all I meant. :P
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 34!!
Post by: AxeLord on Sep 12, 2014, 06:18 PM
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3791/2923.png)

Why did I draw this?

This picture in context with the Vcast! I laughed so hard LOL.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Sep 12, 2014, 06:55 PM
That should be the cover art for every Vcast update because I still can't believe Jackster did this hahahaha
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Pennydox on Sep 12, 2014, 11:49 PM
okay first off, who the hell are all of you?
Second, I know you're all old people, but I'm in some new generation where everything about you guys is some fairytale or folktale.

It wasn't until the Dumb Baby Incident that I realized a huge difference in how people acted in Void. So Void was some scary battlefield you'd shit and piss your pants in, but apparently it is not now. If you want it to stay that way, you should be a good role model and teach us to toughen up. Stay a few months and mentor us or something. I felt it was sudden that there's an argument over a situation and murderfest comes on and then a ton of old voiders come jumping in here and talk about how the new generation is so different. When you leave void, you are no longer a rolemodel. Don't expect to come in years later and expect everything to be kept exactly the way you left it.

I encourage some of you experienced Void Sempais to stay here for a month or two, maybe do some critiques and voting, teach me, the new generation how shit should be done. You don't have to submit any comics, just hang out and stuff. Even the DA chat is fine. Teach us the ways of the comics, that's why I'm here in void
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 12, 2014, 11:56 PM

Pst, you forgot to read my post ;3
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Jed on Sep 13, 2014, 12:07 AM
justin will you be my sempai
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Wei Ingnan on Sep 13, 2014, 12:19 AM
fuck that stupid shit, just make comics.
so much stuff
(http://www.myvideo.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/031.jpg)

Pst, you forgot to read my post ;3

(http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201432/rs_560x374-140402134918-3.jpg)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: justarhymes on Sep 13, 2014, 12:22 AM
justin will you be my sempai

Hell yeah, I will!

First, you must lift bricks.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Jed on Sep 13, 2014, 12:24 AM
o.k.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Wei Ingnan on Sep 13, 2014, 12:45 AM
As I and justarhymes were trying to communicate in recent posts, I think that is just about enough co-opting of this thread for the Podcast....let them get back to business.....and everyone should get back to making, reading and reveiwing comics......talking elsewhere on the forums is (cheap but also) ok

As a Forum Mod I won't close this thread but I will start deleting any subsequent posts that have nothing to do with future podcasts or podcasts in general...like I said....everyone get back to business....it is insulting to the efforts of the people making the podcasts to keep grandstanding or goofing around here after the matter has already been discussed/just about covered
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: AxeLord on Sep 13, 2014, 08:38 AM
I just have to say. I've listened to all of the VC:SI / VC audio over the past couple of days. And have learned a lot about how immature I am mentally as an artist. I've struggled so much with problems so very obvious to fix. And at this very moment I am drawing a comic and re-listening to the Vcasts. They inspire me to progress. Keep it up and I have planned to have something done by next week. Hold me to that.

I really appreciate EnterVoid for the exposure to so many different kinds and levels of artistic ability.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HERE!!
Post by: Bobo on Sep 13, 2014, 11:53 AM
Yeah, VCast is basically the best thing to listen to while you're drawing (or while you're slacking off from drawing so it'll kick your butt back into gear)! Keep up the good work you all!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 39 IS HER
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 08, 2014, 08:30 AM
An update is a-comin'.
Title: Re: VCAST is updating soon!
Post by: Pennydox on Dec 08, 2014, 10:09 AM
good to hear! Is this a recording, or a published one?
Title: HAPPY HOLIDAYS! VCAST EPISODE 40 IS COMING SOON
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 12, 2014, 08:08 PM
HAPPY HOLIDAYS! VCAST: Episode 40 is coming!

Making this episode happen before the year ends! We're gonna cover most of the happenings in void the past few months, and recap on our favorite comics and artists that stood out to us this year.Are you planning to do more battles on void? Maybe plans outside of void? Talk about them I WANNA KNOW.

As always I have people I plan to come talk this episode, but if you're interested, lemme know!

The recording date is Saturday December 20 at 8 pm EST
Release date is estimated to be: Before Christmas.


Title: Re: HAPPY HOLIDAYS! VCAST EPISODE 40 IS COMING SOON
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 18, 2014, 10:05 PM
bumping this up. remember that THIS Saturday is Vcast recording, anyone wanting in, this is your chance now before I grab others
Title: Re: HAPPY HOLIDAYS! VCAST EPISODE 40 IS COMING SOON
Post by: Shen on Dec 18, 2014, 10:57 PM
oh me me
Title: Re: HAPPY HOLIDAYS! VCAST EPISODE 40 IS COMING SOON
Post by: Kozispoon on Dec 19, 2014, 01:57 PM
say whaaaaa

I'm actually in the united states for this one. Meeeee
Title: Re: HAPPY HOLIDAYS! VCAST EPISODE 40 IS COMING SOON
Post by: DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix) on Dec 19, 2014, 05:03 PM
Ah dang, wish I was home Saturday. What time?
Title: Re: HAPPY HOLIDAYS! VCAST EPISODE 40 IS COMING SOON
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 19, 2014, 06:33 PM
8pm EST!
Title: Re: HAPPY HOLIDAYS! VCAST EPISODE 40 IS COMING SOON
Post by: DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix) on Dec 20, 2014, 01:16 AM
ah dang. Maybe next time! Can't wait to listen though!
Title: MERRY CHRISTMAS! VCAST EPISODE 40 IS HERE!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Dec 23, 2014, 04:47 PM
Merry Christmas! VCAST EPISODE 40 IS OUT FOR YOUR LISTENING PLEASURE (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast_e40_xmas.mp3)


Monday, Wuta, Gregly and I talk about Holiday plans for Void and Real Life and we recap the things that happened this year on the site.

http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic;id=2995 the comic we read btw


Special Thanks to Maestro (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=profile;u=365) for the post production of this episode!
Title: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS! VCAST EPISODE 40 IS HERE!
Post by: Pennydox on Dec 23, 2014, 08:02 PM
fyi, revolt comics listing here, in my amazon associates account ;)

volume 1: http://astore.amazon.com/jaloar-20/detail/1494944758

volume 2: http://astore.amazon.com/jaloar-20/detail/1495490343

volume 3: http://astore.amazon.com/jaloar-20/detail/1497461162
Title: Stay tuned! VCAST episode 41 is in the works
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 09, 2015, 12:43 PM
Stay tuned for a future episode announcement, folks.
Title: Re: Stay tuned! VCAST episode 41 is in the works
Post by: stefan on Feb 09, 2015, 02:50 PM
Nice! 

Always fun to hear you guys talk about void!
Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Stay tuned! VCAST episode 41 is in the works
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 09, 2015, 07:33 PM

VCAST Episode 41 Topics!

-King and Queen of VOID is underway! Whether you're taking part,or just cheering from the side lines, what are your thoughts? Talk about them!
-Best of VOID 2015 is also happening! Do you have some predictions? Maybe you wanna honorably mention another comic, artist, or character, Tell the community!
-We need your voice: What can we do to improve the site for you? (Note: I will ask some specific questions for this section, but if you have any other suggestions for this one, feel free to add your two cents!)


And of course, Radio Drama will be done at the end of the topics. If you wanna join in  this time around, feel free to message me!


Recording is planned to be on Friday, February 13th. should anything happen prior to this, I'll inform you guys.
Title: Re: Stay tuned! VCAST episode 41 is in the works
Post by: Bobo on Feb 09, 2015, 09:50 PM
I believe you mean Best of VOID 2014!
Title: Re: Stay tuned! VCAST episode 41 is in the works
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 09, 2015, 09:58 PM
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Stay tuned! VCAST episode 41 is in the works
Post by: DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix) on Feb 09, 2015, 10:40 PM
Can't wait! Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Stay tuned! VCAST episode 41 is in the works
Post by: Kozispoon on Feb 13, 2015, 09:26 PM
*Keeps a beady eye on voidcast updates* D:
Title: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 16, 2015, 06:15 PM
EPISODE 41 IS LIVE (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST_E41_FINAL.mp3)


Wutata, Nina, and Pocky join in Episode 41 to discuss: King and Queen of VOID, Best of VOID 2014, and Suggestions towards site updates and features.


The comic we read tonight is May Wu vs. Itami (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic;id=5134)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Charlie on Feb 16, 2015, 06:51 PM
why does nobody want to fight me, I'm rusty as fuck...

But don't worry guys I'm gonna give this my all!!
SO MAYBE YOU ALL SHOULD BE SCARED HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHA....ah...hgha...coughweeze...

Edit: as an addendum to a part in here that Pocky was mentioning, I didn't make any comics in 2014 here, I left in the latter half of 2013 so I'm ineligible to be on a list for the 2014 awards :(! I hope to do good though in this tourney if I get in.

Edit2: I also like the suggestion of having a 'true rank'. As in what is more reflective of the artist now. I think every year they should reset almost like a 'season' or whatever in sports. Maybe have an all time life average if you must, but it'd be cool to have ranks and stats reset.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Feb 16, 2015, 07:56 PM
new voidcast?? :D

Time to fire up photoshop and listen in while I work!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Bobo on Feb 18, 2015, 11:12 AM
Outbox:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3061984/VOID/outbox.png)
You just have to turn on "Save a copy of each personal message in my sent items by default." Then you can hover over "Messages" and go to "Sent Items."

I also highly recommend turning on "Display personal messages: As a conversation" so you can see the full series of PMs instead of just one at a time.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Hobbittastic on Feb 18, 2015, 05:22 PM
Yaaay I didn't know there were podcasts! This was my first one to hear!

I really like the addition of "My Comic Details"
Noticed it the other day and it was really interesting to see my scores in that way; thought I was doing worse than I was haha.

Totally agree with moving the News Feed. The Home Button is a good idea. I always click the banner and scroll down to make sure I've seen the most recent most. Maybe there should be a News Button? Like for the "News, Everyone" thread but a button for it at the top?

Also yeah I wish the tumblr reblogged more stuff from newer/the more active users. I see a bunch of Voiders drawing cute stuff for each other but it never gets any attention. There was that posting for everyone's Little Black Dress which is more what I mean, but include more that isn't already art jams. I see people post battle hype art and it never gets reblogged? Users all the time complain about how nobody voted or commented and I think reblogging battle hype/production art of the comic would shed a lot more light and give attention to comics coming out. I think the Little Black Dress Jam was a really successful art jam because it did end up getting attention from the tumblr. I like the references and comic reblogs, just reblog more of Voiders themselves.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: William_Duel on Feb 18, 2015, 07:24 PM


Edit2: I also like the suggestion of having a 'true rank'. As in what is more reflective of the artist now. I think every year they should reset almost like a 'season' or whatever in sports. Maybe have an all time life average if you must, but it'd be cool to have ranks and stats reset.

Oh I just made a suggestion like this one on the mod boards.  We are on the same wavelength.  Instead my idea is more annual.  That we have an annual rank and an overall rank that we can compare to previous years.  But yes I second your statement!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Angie on Feb 18, 2015, 07:29 PM
If you want your work reblogged on the tumblr, make sure you're all tagging your work "entervoid".
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Charlie on Feb 18, 2015, 11:23 PM


Edit2: I also like the suggestion of having a 'true rank'. As in what is more reflective of the artist now. I think every year they should reset almost like a 'season' or whatever in sports. Maybe have an all time life average if you must, but it'd be cool to have ranks and stats reset.

Oh I just made a suggestion like this one on the mod boards.  We are on the same wavelength.  Instead my idea is more annual.  That we have an annual rank and an overall rank that we can compare to previous years.  But yes I second your statement!

Haha actually your idea is -exactly- the same as mine, only different wording. Mine is the same deal. Every year its a new rank, and then the overall rank. But glad I'm not the only one thinking of this.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Wubble on Feb 19, 2015, 01:12 AM
You just have to turn on "Save a copy of each personal message in my sent items by default." Then you can hover over "Messages" and go to "Sent Items."
Quote from: Bobo

OH MY GOODNESS, AMAZING. Thank you bobo for making this revelation, I can finally rest in peace :)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Feb 21, 2015, 06:16 PM
Now I must win King, so I can challenge the Queen and claim that title too ~ just for Pocky :))
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Fearn on Mar 01, 2015, 06:09 AM
I think that the Queen+King should be force married at the end ;P (characters not artists :P)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Orion on Mar 01, 2015, 11:38 AM
I think that the Queen+King should be force married at the end ;P (characters not artists :P)

Seconded! The line of sucession must not be broken!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Shen on Mar 01, 2015, 01:05 PM
lol, the first Entervoid Arranged Marriage XD
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 19, 2015, 11:50 PM
Jeez it's been a while huh?


Stay Tuned, Gonna update this in a few days
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Pocketmouse on Jun 20, 2015, 12:43 AM
I think that the Queen+King should be force married at the end ;P (characters not artists :P)
How do you feel about this in hindsight
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Fearn on Jun 20, 2015, 03:26 AM
I think that the Queen+King should be force married at the end ;P (characters not artists :P)
How do you feel about this in hindsight

I STAND BY MY WORDS
You're the one throwing spanner in the works!!! ;)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Pocketmouse on Jun 20, 2015, 10:19 AM
I think that the Queen+King should be force married at the end ;P (characters not artists :P)
How do you feel about this in hindsight

I STAND BY MY WORDS
You're the one throwing spanner in the works!!! ;)
THIS COULD BE US
(http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/421011/image_update_img.jpg)
BUT 'NOT ARTISTS'
Who is the one throwing the spanner now?!?!?!?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Fearn on Jun 20, 2015, 10:46 AM
I think that the Queen+King should be force married at the end ;P (characters not artists :P)
How do you feel about this in hindsight

I STAND BY MY WORDS
You're the one throwing spanner in the works!!! ;)
THIS COULD BE US
(http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/421011/image_update_img.jpg)
BUT 'NOT ARTISTS'
Who is the one throwing the spanner now?!?!?!?

OK LETS DO THIS
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Shen on Jun 20, 2015, 03:23 PM
LIVE ON VCAST
DR CALDERWOOD MARRIES MERRICK SANDERSON
OR MAYBE FERN MARRIES POCKETMOUSE
MAYBE BOTH
EITHER WAY ITS GONNA BE A PARTY
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Heathen on Jun 20, 2015, 04:46 PM
A relationship between a duplicator and a time traveler seems kind of noncommittal.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Shen on Jun 20, 2015, 05:12 PM
PFFF hes got a point XD
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 20, 2015, 09:20 PM
VCAST Episode 42 Topics: We have a lot of catching up to do


-QoV/KoV has concluded, and the winners have been announced! What did you enjoy most about these events? Did a particular comic stand out to you?
-Speed Resurrection is ongoing, and the second round is up (at the time of recording), Who are you cheering on to have a second chance at life?
-Radio Drama of one of the SRT comics will be done as well.


VCAST Episode 42 is scheduled to record on June 26th at 8pm EST.Got anymore topics to suggest, or want to be in Vcast? Let me know in the forums or hit me up on PM.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Evi on Jun 20, 2015, 10:11 PM
ahhh Skulls please update the first page with all the episodes!! It'll greatly help anyone who hasn't caught up with all eps

OKAY AFTER SHIFTING THROUGH 40 PAGES HERE YOU GO, you just need to add the links and stuff
EPISODE 18  Apr 01, 2013
joining me this week was Kura, Pocketmouse, and drasticfantastic who shows up a little later in.  We talk about the SDT choices for this year, careers and jobs relating to the skills of comics, and void merchandizing
 
EPISODE 19 Apr 27, 2013
This episode's a little more calmer than usual, as I was just trying to get an episode done for this week. I SHOULD be back on track for next Friday, so stay tuned.

EPISODE 20 May 05, 2013
Magistelle and Iced joins me in talking about Sexism in video games and the new playlist feature on void!

EPISODE 21  May 13, 2013
Bent, Jets, Tox and I talk about the topics I already posted earlier this week. AND we got a new segment called "GET TO WORK, BOBO", where we have a special guest cheering our favorite Admin on. Who could it be? You gotta listen to find out!

EPISODE 22 May 20, 2013
ABI and Nina are in to talk about whatever we talked about
Fanart! Sweet to do, but not to sell? What makes a Void Character stick as memorable on the site?
How to not make an Original Character.

EPSIODE 23 May 26, 2013
Joining me this week is Bechans, Galvo, and Underwood!
-Tournaments in void, do we have plenty of them, or not enough happening?
- Deadlines are scary as hell.
-Any tips or tricks to share when it comes to drawing complex shots in comics?

ERPISODE 24  Jun 09, 2013
This episode has Kura, Seevah and Tox talking about
 PPT is up! who're you cheering for?
What influences have you gained since you joined void? (on-site or off)
 Connecting your characters arcs with other artists characters to build a sense of community or fly solo

EPISODE 25—PART ONE, PART 2  Jun 17, 2013
PPT Round 1 is posted! Which comic did you enjoy the most?
-Whats the one comic/cartoon you think is the best example of top-notch quality art and why?
-How do you determine a story to write when battling on Void?

EPISODE 26  Jun 23, 2013
Tox, Hats and LJS join in to talk about how much Hats hates melted cheese.

EPISODE 27  Jul 08, 2013
Bobo, Qyz join in to talk about the topics listed earlier, with Gregly joining in fashionably late!
Onomatopoeias! (aka sound effects)
How important is it that someone improves their art skill to make comics in void?
Lot of us use digital these days to draw comics. How important is it to harness your traditional skills when it comes to drawing?

Episode 28  Jul 21, 2013
This week joins Saburu, Magistelle, and Alternabase! hope you enjoy
Webcomic feature in void is back! Are you interested in starting your comic on void
or fly solo? why?
do you ever suffer from infinite possiblity hesitation?
the world to do something, you can't seem to ever start doing anything?
-How much has working with deadlines in void helped you in the long run?

EPISODIEO 29 Aug 05, 2013
This week we have ABI and Pocky
Learning the basics and principles are important in art. What kind of tips would you give to people to have a better grasp in these elements? (Proportions, anatomy, constructions, etc.)
-artbooks artbooks artbooks. You've probably seen some, or at least seen some concept art for a franchise or series. Which one's stood out for you and why?
-Story time returns! What's the funniest/weirdest/downright horrible story you have that relates to art?

EPISODE 30 Aug 19, 2013
This week I got Pocky, Gregly and Tox to talk about the topics listed, and add a new segment for vcast's new milestone: Void Comic read-a-long, where we voice the comic battle of Somadis vs Mortido!
Art School. Some people take it, some don't. Do you think it's important for a growing artist to gain an education in the field?
-Suggestions for the site! Are there any changes, additions or removal to the features you'd like to make for void?

EPISOE 31 Sep 20, 2013
 Magistelle and Kura
Have you ever battled/wanted to battle someone that you REALLY wanted to beat? (Thanks pyras!)
-What to do with defaults and incomplete comics: A discussion about the latest streak of incomplete comics and how to avoid them in the future.
-Pacing Problems: What to avoid when it comes to story telling and pacing in comics.

EPOSIDE 32 Oct 14, 2013
Poky, Shen, Gregly, and Tox join in to talk about the stuff
Month of the Dead has begun and the dead walk among us! Who are you hoping to see battle again? Who was the most memorable to you before their untimely death?
what has Void done for you?

EPISODE 33 Nov 10, 2013
Kozispoon, Wu AT AT and ABI
What do you hate and like most about your own art?
-what kind of traditional drawing tools do you use? Brand of pencils, type of equipment, types of paper
- What is the best/worst advice you've ever gotten?

EPISODE 34  Dec 18, 2013
Slade, Sabu, and Sketchfighter joining me in talking about some topics I didn't even mention!
- Achievements and medals aside, what to you makes a void veteran?
- Do you remember being in the incubator?
- -What would be your favorite VOID battle match up and why?
-'What have you taken from a fellow void member?'

EPISODE 35 Jan 07, 2014
With me this week is Toxic, Endshark, Shen, and The Bent One, as we recap what's happened this year as well as talk about other silly stuff!

EPISODE 36 Apr 23, 2014
-MASTER OF DISASTER was a success! Great effort all around. What was your favorite comic to read?
-We're critiquing your stuff too though! Be prepared for some pros and cons of your entries! (We'll critique other battles up as well)
-maybe some radio drama of said event.

EPISODE 37  May 27, 2014
Pyras, toxic, and sabu join me in talking about whatever we talked about the last few weeks ago, I got a little held up this time due to ARMAGEDDON 2014
Armageddon! Shit hasn't happened in years, let's talk about it
-Upheaval is an ongoing unofficial event that has people making comics for! How hyped/not hyped are you for it? (I'm not biased I swear)
- It's also Free Comic Book Day on the day vcast is recording. Did anyone go out to get their free comics, and if so, what comic did you get?

EPISODE 38 Sep 05, 2014
Me, shen and jiisuri catch up on what's been going on in void: Armaggeddon, Black and Blue, new characters, etc.

EPISODE 39 Sep 06, 2014
Surprise! Sabu, Kura, Mamoru and I bring you an up to date episode of the events in the site a day after the previous episode

 EPISODE 40 Dec 23, 2014
Monday, Wuta, Gregly and I talk about Holiday plans for Void and Real Life and we recap the things that happened this year on the site.

EPISODE 41 Feb 16, 2015
Wutata, Nina, and Pocky join in Episode 41 to discuss: King and Queen of VOID, Best of VOID 2014, and Suggestions towards site updates and features.
Quote

I definitely missed a few details so there's a bunch of “talking about the thing I posted earlier” and “sorry its late” so go ahead and edit any mistakes you find
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 20, 2015, 10:15 PM
Oh my god Evi, you went through all that for vcast I am so sorry/so thankful, thanks so much. I'll update this asap
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 25, 2015, 12:31 AM
Sorry guys, I meant to put the date as 26th of June, not 27th. I've updated that just now.

Nevermind, we're recording Saturday instead.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 41 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jul 03, 2015, 06:25 PM
VCAST EPISODE 42 IS HERE (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20EPISODE%2042.mp3)


Disclaimer: This was recorded last Saturday, but because I was dealing with some stuff on my end, it's late. This was also the second recording, as the original file was lost when Skype shut down on me, and my computer wasn't responding to reboot it.


Bobo, Sabu, Shen, ToxicToothpick join me in talking about the stuff mentioned above.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 42!!
Post by: Shen on Jul 03, 2015, 07:32 PM
oh my god bobo you done it YOU ACTUALLY DONE IT YOU FOLLOWED THROUGH
Im so embarrassed to hear my awful writing out loud!! XD but you sounded great! and I got to hear you sing! Thanks, Bobo, LOL!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 42!!
Post by: neens on Jul 03, 2015, 09:30 PM
BOBE WHAT ARE YOU DOING
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 42!!
Post by: Minteh on Jul 03, 2015, 10:11 PM
I only just started listening, but I HAVE to say, Shen you sound goddamn adorable whatttt hahaha

EDIT: SABS I'M GOING TO FUCKING DESTROY YOU, HAHAHA, YOU BEST BE READY FOR THE SHIT I'M BRINGING.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 42!!
Post by: Sabulive on Jul 04, 2015, 05:53 AM
I only just started listening, but I HAVE to say, Shen you sound goddamn adorable whatttt hahaha

EDIT: SABS I'M GOING TO FUCKING DESTROY YOU, HAHAHA, YOU BEST BE READY FOR THE SHIT I'M BRINGING.

come the fuck at me u piece of doodoo ur getting fucking RIPPED 2 PIECES
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 42!!
Post by: Jackster on Jul 04, 2015, 10:10 AM
Can't hardly wait for the next part in Bobo's Void Drama.

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/f6085387f465a46c3fd73a2eca52c8c0/tumblr_nqiuinGLmv1r48bg7o1_500.gif)

(but still, good job on this Vcast even if the original one did get lost in the depths of time. And great job for Bobo for that Void Drama at the end.)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 42!!
Post by: UmbrellaFrog on Jul 26, 2015, 12:03 PM
aah so sorry for not battling more! plz don't take my lunch money!

It's kind of scary but also kind of nice to know so many people wanna wreck Kruger. I will try my best to make it happen! Soontm
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 42!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Aug 05, 2015, 10:59 PM
Why didn't I notice that GIF sooner??




Stay tuned, Planning out the schedule for next vcast!
Title: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 18, 2016, 07:05 PM
Wowie, it sure has been a while!


No VCAST for 5 whole months? We can't have that keep going! So how about we bring this back on track, folks?

VCAST WILL BE RETURNING FEBURARY 19 2016 FOR RECORDING
But that's not all, I'm opening up a call for post production assistance.


What does that mean? I basically need someone to help me review and edit the podcast for final release. I'm a full-time student working on a group production animation film, and will be searching for internship for the summer vacation, and with all the work coming ahead, lightening the load just a tad bit helps along the way.
What do you need to be qualified? If you're able to use any sound editing program to cut, splice, noise correct and add some soundtrack, congrats, you're already a qualified candidate! Just PM me on the website if you're interested.


Looking forward to getting this back on track!
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Coatl on Jan 18, 2016, 10:43 PM
what happened to that last one that was gonna talk about that tourney that rofl won?
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Kozispoon on Jan 18, 2016, 11:14 PM
I was in that one! I and other strapping young lads and ladies :D Yes, yes, lest we forget the backlog.

Also, if you got the chops to help out, definitely help the Skulls!
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 18, 2016, 11:44 PM
Like I said, Ernie, I'm getting busier on my side. I had that VCAST recorded and 60% ready to go after I lost the near completed copy, but school started along with work, and production time killed any spare time I had for it. I can still try to find it and finish it off, but I'd wanna start fresh for this VCAST with a more up to date episode, too.

You CAN, however, listen to Bobo and Underwood's Radio Drama (http://vocaroo.com/i/s1MknhcsSNin) of SMUT BATTLE- Miller VS. Lesdai Grahl (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic;id=5244)
Warning: This audio and comic is NSFW
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Shen on Jan 19, 2016, 12:45 AM
OH MY CHRIST can you two please just voice every radio drama forever i am laughing SO HARD
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Jackster on Jan 19, 2016, 04:51 AM
The audio drama! IT FINALLY HAPPENED!!

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/f6085387f465a46c3fd73a2eca52c8c0/tumblr_nqiuinGLmv1r48bg7o1_500.gif)

That was just great! Perfect even!

I'd like to request all of the Sovereign Greece comics up to this point. And when the Greece vs. Mammon battle happens (eventually), I will request that one too.
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Shen on Jan 19, 2016, 05:15 AM

I'd like to request all of the Sovereign Greece comics up to this point. And when the Greece vs. Mammon battle happens (eventually), I will request that one too.

GFYUKTGYUTDYKUTGTYJF
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Qyzex on Jan 19, 2016, 05:40 AM
what happened to that last one that was gonna talk about that tourney that rofl won?

wouldn't be the first time he was skipped over. -_-
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Bobo on Jan 19, 2016, 07:32 AM
Don't worry, I'm sure the next VCAST will come out just in time to talk about how RoflQu won the LSDT ;)

I wouldn't mind hearing that last cast myself, even if it is super late, though. Maybe someone else could just finish up the editing for Skulls so she doesn't get overwhelmed with outdated work?
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Dechado on Jan 19, 2016, 11:58 AM
You CAN, however, listen to Bobo and Underwood's Radio Drama (http://vocaroo.com/i/s1MknhcsSNin) of SMUT BATTLE- Miller VS. Lesdai Grahl (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=comic;id=5244)
Warning: This audio and comic is NSFW

WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU GUYS DONE OMG kfnsybghUGSABJH
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Field Marshal Lionel Forsythe W. Underwood XIII, GBE on Jan 20, 2016, 01:22 AM
I'm such a ham. I need to tone things down.
Title: Re: VCAST Special Announcement!!
Post by: Elyan on Jan 20, 2016, 02:53 AM
No you dont. This is the fun part :D its like a rollercoaster vcast. Also im imagining you as a perfect joker voice actor
Title: VCAST EPISODE 43!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 21, 2016, 12:23 AM
(http://orig07.deviantart.net/84e4/f/2016/051/4/b/vcasttitlecard_by_crackingskulls-d9sjtof.jpg) (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E43FINAL.mp3)


VCAST EPISODE 43 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E43FINAL.mp3)


GPS and Magistelle join me in discussing the LSDT and recap on some stuff I missed!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 43!!
Post by: Bobo on Feb 21, 2016, 09:07 AM
I WAS FUCKIN ON MY GAME MUTHAFUCKAZ!!!!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 43!!
Post by: Flutterbyes on Feb 21, 2016, 10:30 AM
STRAWBERRIES 'N' CREAMMMMM OF THE CROP

(Being the closet narcissist I am, I liked hearing you talk about me positively :D)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 43!!
Post by: Astro Sean on Feb 21, 2016, 11:00 AM
Gumshoe Vs. Dale reading was fantastic! Loved every bit of it. Thank you for the Dale love!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 44!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 07, 2016, 08:20 PM
(http://orig02.deviantart.net/e4aa/f/2016/159/7/a/vcast44pic_by_crackingskulls-da5iu64.jpg) (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E%2044.mp3)


VCAST EPISODE 44 IS HERE: Kozispoon, Syraxis, and Thren join me to talk about Heavyweight and Invitational people! (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E%2044.mp3)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 44!!
Post by: Futreblot on Jun 08, 2016, 07:41 PM
what a great group of people, I'm really excited for the invitational tournament.

I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy! *grovels and bows repeatedly*
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 44!!
Post by: Astro Sean on Jun 08, 2016, 07:45 PM
In response to being mentioned; my name is Sean, pronounced (Shawn)and it is gaelic for John. I am super stoked for this tournament, and I will probably end up death matching Harvey ASAP haha.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 44!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jun 08, 2016, 07:47 PM
Sean you sadist :c
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 44!!
Post by: Bobo on Jun 21, 2016, 09:50 AM
Skulls, you totally ARE a vet! The people who joined around 2007 are now most of the longest standing members of the site! I mean, just try to count the number of active members on the site who joined before 2007 now. Also you're just amazing anyway ;)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 45!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 10, 2017, 07:58 PM
(http://orig03.deviantart.net/e6a5/f/2017/010/7/4/vcaste45_by_crackingskulls-dauzcle.jpg) (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E-SOMETHING2017.mp3)

VCAST E45 IS HERE. (http://www.digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST%20E-SOMETHING2017.mp3)


We're gonna start the new year with a new episode. We do a small recap on 2016
Recording date: Sunday January 8 2017
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 45!!
Post by: Charlie on Jan 10, 2017, 09:16 PM
Glad to see VCAST return, also glad to hear my pal Layeyes getting a bit of a shout out here. He is a super talented dude for sure (and I don't just say that 'cause he is a friend!).
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 45!!
Post by: Jackster on Jan 11, 2017, 08:53 AM
Holy sheet! A new Vcast! Complete with 3 whole minutes of silence at the end of it!

Real talk though, good job on this guys. Hope to see more of these in the future.
Title: VCAST EPISODE 46 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 16, 2017, 12:18 AM
(http://orig12.deviantart.net/0ea6/f/2017/015/b/5/vcast46titlecard_by_crackingskulls-davlk36.png) (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast_E46.mp3)

EPISODE 46 IS HERE (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/vcast_E46.mp3)



This week's episode involves the OCT, Election Royale, and other comics up for voting. We also do a radio drama of one of the OCT battles!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 46 IS HERE!!
Post by: KarmaLarma on Jan 16, 2017, 01:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Vlkfx3R.png)
Your local knee capping enforcer with a convenient name.

Also thanks so much for the nice words on my election comic~!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 46 IS HERE!!
Post by: Jackster on Jan 16, 2017, 07:04 AM
Another one already?!

Christ, I'll have to listen to this one once I get back from work.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 46 IS HERE!!
Post by: Pita on Jan 16, 2017, 09:42 AM
Someone brought up the Easter Egg in my Zoey comic

Good job y'all C;
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 46 IS HERE!!
Post by: Jackster on Jan 16, 2017, 06:46 PM
I request a whole Void Drama Marathon of Xia's old comics, please.

Pretty please?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 46 IS HERE!!
Post by: Happy July 18th! -Reecer6 on Jan 16, 2017, 06:57 PM
Chronologically backwards too, so we only have more and better to look forwards to as the marathon continues.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 46 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 22, 2017, 12:42 PM
Just a heads up, no VCAST this week, We'll be recording next week, and noob saibot will have it edited and released for Next Sunday or Monday.


See you next week!



Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 47!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 30, 2017, 04:30 PM
(http://orig03.deviantart.net/dadf/f/2017/030/a/7/vcaste47card_by_crackingskulls-daxb6n6.jpg) (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/FINAL_Episode47.mp3)

VCAST EPISODE 47 FEATURING: Saburu, Mortooncian, and Fukur0 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/FINAL_Episode47.mp3)


This week's topics are Voider webcomics, the OCT, Best of 2016,  comic process, and radio drama
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 47!!
Post by: Julz on Jan 30, 2017, 05:28 PM
KarmaLarma does nice work, but the webcomic Circ Du Royale is by voider Atomicbritt/ Atomic Fish. https://tapastic.com/episode/288517
If Karma has a webcomic about clowns with a french name too, correct me, but this is what I'm seeing.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 47!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Jan 30, 2017, 06:06 PM
I blame Sabu
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 47!!
Post by: Julz on Jan 30, 2017, 06:20 PM
after re listening, yeah sabu was like "Karma larma?" and everyone just ran with it hahaha. Nice going guys.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 47!!
Post by: Sabulive on Jan 30, 2017, 06:38 PM
Im going to get kneecapped so hard
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 47!!
Post by: Jackster on Jan 31, 2017, 03:40 AM
Thank you so much for the shout out, you guys. I've been waiting for months for that haha.

I wouldn't really call myself a mystery man since I'm rather active in the chat. I also have no interest in being on Vcast for many reasons (I have a terrible voice, I stammer a lot, I have a hard time thinking of what to say next, I have satellite internet, the list goes on), but I still listen to them either way.

As for comic process discussing, I already talked about my process in the chatroom, and I would like to share them here. But I don't know if I should talk about it on this thread, or start a new thread dedicated to that. I'd like to see someone do the latter instead.

But again, thanks for the shout out and I really hope to get my act together and finish up the Hellstorm saga soon.



And one more thing, Skulls and Sabu should really battle each other someday.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 47!!
Post by: Pita on Jan 31, 2017, 11:37 AM
Y'all did a radio drama of Zoey's entry?

That's super rad!  I'm so flattered!
= u =
Title: VCAST EPISODE 48 IS HERE!!
Post by: Cracking Skulls on Feb 07, 2017, 06:32 PM
(http://orig09.deviantart.net/adac/f/2017/038/5/b/vcaste48_by_crackingskulls-day9eb7.jpg)

VCAST EPISODE 48 IS UP (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST_E48.mp3)

GEEPS, SABU, AND SYRAXIS JOIN VCAST TO DRAG ME AND CRITIQUE ON COMICS. (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST_E48.mp3)

Recording date: Sunday January 5th 2017 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/VCAST_E48.mp3)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 48 IS HERE!!
Post by: fukur0 on Feb 08, 2017, 02:28 AM
Syraxis is a pretty good voice for Sunder, just saying (*ΦωΦ*)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 48 IS HERE!!
Post by: Syraxis on Jul 05, 2017, 11:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/j50HYUo.png)
 VCAST EPISODE 49 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/Vcast%20Episode%2049.mp3)

For those who don't know, Vcast has been on an unannounced hiatus due to Cracking Skulls' life events. Starting now, we'll be hosting on rotations, meaning there will be a different host for the next Vcast, which we plan to do biweekly. Skulls discusses this a bit more in the Vcast, so if you haven't you should take a listen!

This week we are joined by Sabu, Gps, and Mags to talk about Armageddon, as well as catching up on other comics on the site.

Recorded on Friday, June 30, 2017
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 48 IS HERE!!
Post by: Jackster on Jul 06, 2017, 03:59 AM
If we get a different host next Vcast, does that mean we'll finally get that Void Drama of Xia's Intro Story that we've been demanding for months?
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 48 IS HERE!!
Post by: Syraxis on Aug 04, 2017, 02:59 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/PK2B3Zg.png)
 VCAST EPISODE 50 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/Vcast%20Episode%2050.mp3)

There have been some slight delays.
Vcast is back and with a VERY special 50th Episode! We are joined this time by Pitafish, Petarvee, and The Man Who Planted Swag.
We Discuss some recent comics, The Entervoid site update, The Holiday Collab - Summer Camp Adventure (http://entervoid.com/index.php?topic=13301.0), and The East Coast Meetup!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 48 IS HERE!!
Post by: Radji on Aug 04, 2017, 03:40 AM
I'll be back...
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 48 IS HERE!!
Post by: Shen on Aug 04, 2017, 06:51 AM
"you would need dye pretty strong to cover black hair" LOOK WE DID CONSIDER THIS, i know they would have to bleach first but we preferred the METAPHOR of the black being covered more and more by the colour XD
thanks for the crit lol
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 48 IS HERE!!
Post by: Pita on Aug 04, 2017, 07:10 AM
Look at me trying to me a smarty-smart type person!  It wasn't arpeggio, it was solfege!
Consider the joke missed.
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 48 IS HERE!!
Post by: Happy July 18th! -Reecer6 on Aug 04, 2017, 06:08 PM
come on guys iri isn't an npc and you're making jho very sad, she had a single comic in 2012 (http://entervoid.com/index.php?action=character;id=360)

(btw, i definitely shaded with yellow for all the interior bits, and an intentional desaturated blue for the exterior. and AAAAA I'M SO SORRY THAT LAST PANEL DOESN'T READ. i had actually already seen that twitter, and kind of sort of used it for inspiration for this comic? because i still think my "SLAM"'s better than anything in the last comic. i'm pretty insecure about how i do architecture, so thanks for complimenting specifically that!)
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 48 IS HERE!!
Post by: Syraxis on Jan 17, 2018, 09:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Cr93rbk.png)
 VCAST EPISODE 51 (http://digisukebu.com/podcasts/Vcast%20Episode%2051.mp3)

Vcast episode 51 is finally here!
We're back with Cracking Skulls, Pyrasterran, Corn of the Breads, and Syraxis.
In this episode we talk about Best of Void for 2017, attempt to catch up on recent and current tournaments, and answer some questions given to us by the community.
 
Regarding questions, you can peruse Help (http://entervoid.com/index.php?board=2.0) for any questions you may have. If you still have questions regarding the site and want them addressed on Vcast, go ahead and leave them below and we can  try to get to them on the next Episode!
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 51 IS HERE!!
Post by: Mister Kent on Jan 18, 2018, 08:45 PM
Choice quotes so far: "CONGRATULATIONS YOU'RE WRONG" and "SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH" ;D
Title: Re: VCAST EPISODE 51 IS HERE!!
Post by: Wirecat on Jan 29, 2018, 11:50 AM
 Oh man!!! This was really cool to listen to! This place is like a frikkin treasure box, the more you dig around the more amazing things you find : D
Looking forward to the next episode! In the meantime I'll try and think up some questions and listen to all the 50 other episodes!!!!