Hebe vs. Kuma

Hebe vs. Kuma

by Betito


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Kuro
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# 19   Posted: Jun 25 2009, 08:36 AM
strong black usage by the both of you. it looked rather nice.
betito, the big bulbous noses you give just about all of the characters bug me. introduce more facial variation & it will go a long way. nice bits of action too but spreading that action out into bigger panels to really let it pop would be nice. while it might lead to more pages, it'd be a lot clearer & more dynamic.

gregos, nice work from you too, but again it took a second for me to register between your character & the older version of your opponents. more variation would go a long way! also more backgrounds. the dramatic silhouettes were nice but the occasional reference point in the background really would have helped ground the fight a bit more. & make it seem a little less like they were fighting in oblivion. and angie's right. even if your scanner sucks ass though, mess with your levels in photoshop! you'll get better results!

ledes87
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# 18   Posted: Jun 24 2009, 10:03 AM
Los dos a la final!!!! cheeee!!!!

ZigZagZero
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# 17   Posted: Jun 23 2009, 09:11 PM
I really enjoyed these comics guys. Your styles blended really well as well as your story. I would have liked to see your characters enter acting though prehaps in a kind of epilog. Hope to see you two together again. Great work.

Angie
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# 16   Posted: Jun 23 2009, 05:13 PM
betito-I love the direction your inks are taking, I think your work stands on its own a lot better in black and white than in color. I really liked the layout on the second page, I hope to see more like that from you in the future. The main thing I noticed was you seem to be having some issues with arms. The rest of the anatomy looks fine, but they seem to jump around from being too long to being too short to bending in the wrong area. You may want to zoom your camera out more in the future for action scenes, you don't always have to be whoa zoomed out or anything, but when almost everything is way zoomed in it can get difficult to tell what's going on.

Gregos-you had some really strong inks here, I love the solid blacks and all the little details. But damn dude, your scanner murdered these pages. It might help to scan your work as black and white instead of grayscale, that way you won't end up with all these weird grays and scanning artifacts. I did a whole thing http://entervoid.com/board/index.php?topic=9918.0 here on scanning and preparing your work for putting online, this may help. I was kind of confused about what happened between page 4 and 5 since you built up the action, but then didn't show anything and then showed the aftermath.

Good job both of you!

Dimension
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# 15   Posted: Jun 22 2009, 03:54 PM
cool battle guys!

@betitio: Your getting better all the time :3 I still see that you had some trouble with faces here and there though. The noses and mouths look a bit weird at times. The page layouts looked really nice, I like how they looked. They were very dynamic and fitting for the action. Good job with this.

@Grego: Nice first battle! the art looks solid, it could have had some cleaner scans, but hopefully you'll be able to scan with a different scanner next time :) The characters look awesome and the amount of texture and detail you added to Minos were great. Uh, as for the story.. it  just felt like there was a page missing...and it really needed it. I think next time, even if someone already claimed Minos or something, you could have just gone with the story anyways and no one would have had a problem with it. :o But yeah, this was a sweet first battle from you. I like Kuma so far.

Looking forward to more comics from you two!

dragon-dan
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# 14   Posted: Jun 22 2009, 03:39 PM
well Gregos, this is your first fight and it turned out really well, but man Betito, these were some well drawn pages!!!
I've got no complaints on style, inking, etc. but I found it hard to follow the action in both halves, more so in Gregos' pages.

(Pi)
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# 13   Posted: Jun 19 2009, 11:41 AM
betito, your faces look awkward at times, especially when you're taking odd angles like on the bottom of page 1. The collage composition on page two was kinda neat, that's a device I don't think is used very often in comics, and it fit in well here. On page 4, I think the introduction of Minos could have been a lot more clear. All we see to begin with are weird shapes that I couldn't attach to anything in my head. Maybe start off with a silhouette of of something more distinguishable? Your action sequences are dynamic and clear, which is great. Overall, really nice work, with some inconsistencies.

gregos, really nice lines and inks, the close-ups look especially nice. I start getting a little confused around page 3, though, I'm not really sure what happens that causes him to lose his arm. It would have been cool to see the fight scene after the demon arm is unleashed too, but suppose it wasn't necessary. I think page 5 could have been clearer that it was a transition, though, like a fade in to show that something happened in between. Otherwise, I really enjoyed your comic and hope to see more from you in the future!

Brilliantik
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# 12   Posted: Jun 19 2009, 11:00 AM
ah! y me encanta fedra en el tuyo betito :P

Brilliantik
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# 11   Posted: Jun 19 2009, 10:59 AM
 a mi me gustaron ambos dos! :)

Kon
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# 10   Posted: Jun 19 2009, 10:58 AM
Betito> You've got some wierd faces going around there but you surely improved. I didn't get much of the fight thought, it was pretty confusing.

Gregos> Nice style really, it's was just hard understanding the two last pages.

Phill
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# 9   Posted: Jun 19 2009, 02:52 AM
Not bad you two, art on both your ends is definitely a plus, but story...


Betito: Definitely a level up on your quality my friend, nice use of inking, but you gotta zoom out more often or at least draw bigger panels for your pages. Half of these panels are just way too cluttered or way too detailed with textures on the walls. Story was OK, lots of good build up, but I would of liked to see how Kuma fit into this story aside from him coming in to save the day.


Gregos: Inks and figures are excellent! No questions about it but there's a lack of backgrounds aside from the last panel (and it's not too impressive of a background to be honest). Your half of the story story... *shakes head*  I really wasn't impressed with the story. It's Kuma coming in to save the day without much effort (which was introduced in the last comic and I'm cool with that), but what happened? OK, he got the metal arm blown off, that's bad we all know that. But I've got to ask what exactly happened? He goes about how "IT HUNGERS", but in the next page he's wiping the blood out of his eyes, the monster is gone, and there's no sign of Hebe aside from him froml on page 2, also in the end he is shown crying a bit and saying "When is this shit going to be over?"

... I feel it's kinda wrong for me to critique a personality, but from what I'm seeing in your comics, he kinda enjoys killing demons, and why should he be sad about that not counting he is somewhat demonic himself? He seems perfectly in control of himself and his actions despite needing the arm to live. If anything I'd find it more believable if he was more afraid of his own actions rather than upset.

Back onto the story, where did Hebe go in the end? The build up from the previous comic centered on Hebe wanting to prove himself to the Orphanage Members with Kuma coming in for the assist. I can understand maybe wanting to finish the end at a later date, but this whole comic is in dire need of closure.



Stories here shouldn't have been so focused directly on each others own character as this all revolved around the two of them. I liked Betito's build up and setting of the storyline, but I wish he would of found a way to put in Kuma into the story aside from him showing up at the moment to save the day like a Deus ex Machina.  Gregos has my vote for quality alone, but there needs to be something more to Kuma than ass kicking, and a lot of plot holes that need a fixin. Still though, artistically this was a very impressive showing.

Mister Kent
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# 8   Posted: Jun 18 2009, 10:50 PM
I must find an adjective for "like" - I must be the world's worst professional writer

Mister Kent
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# 7   Posted: Jun 18 2009, 10:49 PM
I would have liked to see you draw each other's characters, at least for like a page or something. That was probably my biggest disappointment, personally. However there's some pretty strong linework on both sides.
Betito - I think your fight scenes had the best art. Creative borders helped, too - like when the last panel on a page would be jagged (forget the page number). I'd like more of that in the future.
Gregos - You used some professional techniques that I liked a lot. Really like the texture and shading on the faces. I liked when Kuma's face was shown in full shadow (page 4) - it really added to the pacing of the art, I feel.

Betito
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# 6   Posted: Jun 18 2009, 09:57 PM
Uploaded! :3
Ehm... enjoy! n_n

ZigZagZero
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# 5   Posted: Jun 16 2009, 10:19 PM
These are two intriguing characters. I cannot wait for this one.

Mister Kent
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# 4   Posted: Jun 2 2009, 07:33 PM
All right - more Orphanage action! Make it hot, good sirs!

JoshuaEliGilley
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# 3   Posted: May 27 2009, 03:51 PM
Betito, always good to see your work!
Gregos, your inks are real nice!

exciting!!


Betito
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# 2   Posted: May 22 2009, 03:23 PM
Thanks Dai.
Hagamos algo copado Grego! =)

Dimension
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# 1   Posted: May 22 2009, 01:41 PM
Man, I am excited about this one. Good luck guys!

Comic Details -

 
Drawing Time: 3 weeks
Ended: Jun 25th, 2009
Votes Cast: 32
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