Perspective tutorial: UPDATED

Red · « **on:** Mar 16, 2009, 02:52 PM »

UNDERSTAND WHAT PERSPECTIVE IS
Does a really great job of helping you understand how perspective works!

http://shattered-earth.deviantart.com/art/The-BASICS-Perspective-244463251

NO BS CUSTOM MADE VOID TUTORIALS
SHORT AND SWEET

1 POINT PERSPECTIVE:
http://www.totallylamerobot.com/void/1point-01.jpg
The most basic you can get, start here!

3 POINT PERSPECTIVE:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/kurocrash/3point.jpg
presented by Kuro, 3 point uses a third point to stress that something is reallllly tall.

DRAWING MORE COMPLEX OBJECTS
featuring a smelly couch.
http://www.totallylamerobot.com/void/couch.jpg

IMPORTANCE OF HORIZON LINE AND VANISHING POINT POSITIONS
http://www.totallylamerobot.com/void/horizonposition.jpg

LONG ASS BOOKS (PDFS) WITH LOTS OF INFO FOR YOU:

Perspective Made Easy
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5178935/Perspective-Made-Easy

Perspective for Comic Book Artists
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29299861/David-Chelsea-Perspective-for-Comic-Book-Artists

Corny · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 16, 2009, 02:54 PM »

The vanishing point isn't always going to be on your horizon line.

Angie · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 16, 2009, 03:33 PM »

Quote from: Corny on Mar 16, 2009, 02:54 PM

The vanishing point isn't always going to be on your horizon line.

Please elaborate and show examples since I fail at perspective.

Red · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 16, 2009, 03:35 PM »

Quote from: Corny on Mar 16, 2009, 02:54 PM

The vanishing point isn't always going to be on your horizon line.

I've never heard of that before.

Besides, this is just a basic tutorial for some people who have super crazy lines all over the place without any reason.

EDIT: oh wait, are you talking about 3 point perspective?

Corny · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 16, 2009, 03:40 PM »

Upon attempting this, I found that I'm actually horribly wrong.

This might explain why my perspective is always terrible XD

Red · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 16, 2009, 03:42 PM »

Quote from: Corny on Mar 16, 2009, 03:40 PM

Upon attempting this, I found that I'm actually horribly wrong.

This might explain why my perspective is always terrible XD

Well then, enjoy the tutorial <3

4:00am · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 16, 2009, 07:09 PM »

so are you going to consolidate this into the thread that marley made about perspective like a year ago

or are we going to have two threads on perspective?

either way is whatever just figured i'd ask

Angie · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 16, 2009, 07:22 PM »

Two threads because Marley's thread has a ton of broken images.

Red · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 16, 2009, 07:49 PM »

Quote from: 4:00am on Mar 16, 2009, 07:09 PM

so are you going to consolidate this into the thread that marley made about perspective like a year ago

or are we going to have two threads on perspective?

either way is whatever just figured i'd ask

I didn't even know we had one until I asked Angie about it and she told me about Marley's old one. So yeah, it's not easy to find (it's called VCU to the third powah or something) and like she said there are broken images and such.

Kuro · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 16, 2009, 10:26 PM »

GODDAMMIT RED!

i started doing something like this while i was at work a couple of days ago & emailed it too myself with the intention of finishing it but never got around to it. good show thus far though. and there's bits i'll add once i do get the visual demonstrations all figured out!

as for vanishing points that aren't on the horizon: yes & no. instead of thinking of the horizon as THE horizon, think of it more like an 'eye-line' and not only do you have a horizontal eye-line, when you start dealing with multiple point (3 & higher) perspectives, you start having a vertical eye-line as well. and vanishing points can situate along that too. so yeah, they don't have to be on the horizon, but they all converge along the eye-lines. if any of that makes sense.

Red · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 16, 2009, 10:31 PM »

hahaha sorry kuro!! You can totally add to it if you want, there is still 3 point and up to cover. If you want to do something specific just PM me so we don't end up making the same exact tutorial haha.

Kuro · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 17, 2009, 07:44 AM »

it's all good. serves the same purpose after all.

mine was elaborating more on the applications though & building off the old thread marley did. i only kind of went over the 1, 2, 3 point demonstrations real briefly & it's easy to leave out of what i have since you're doing a much better job than me with this so far. the bulk of it was more about breaking down shapes to simpler angles & making things other than buildings fit in perspective & things to watch out for & be mindful of. stuff like that. i'll work on the visuals & post it up soon.

Kuro · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 19, 2009, 09:09 AM »

Sorry, Red I probably should have messaged you first. I did this rather quickly though while at work this morning.

Red · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 19, 2009, 11:47 AM »

No toes stepped on at all man, that was awesome, thanks!
(ps you are an extremely helpful voider and I appreciate all of your helpful posts)

Blitzbitz · « **Reply #14 on:** Apr 02, 2009, 01:59 PM »

.... Out of curiosity, how would you set this to your characters? Like an action pose or something?

Kuro · « **Reply #15 on:** Apr 02, 2009, 02:06 PM »

we're gettin' to that......

Enef · « **Reply #16 on:** Apr 05, 2009, 05:09 AM »

Nice work guys.

Here's a good tutorial i found yesterday on Perspective, it goes over the same points as you guys basically, it's really quite in depth though.

http://fox-orian.deviantart.com/art/Perspective-Composition-Pt-1-118068853

Vain · « **Reply #17 on:** Apr 05, 2009, 05:22 AM »

Quote from: Enef on Apr 05, 2009, 05:09 AM

Nice work guys.

Here's a good tutorial i found yesterday on Perspective, it goes over the same points as you guys basically, it's really quite in depth though.

http://fox-orian.deviantart.com/art/Perspective-Composition-Pt-1-118068853

that tutorial was a beast really helpfull

Kuro · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 05, 2009, 06:33 AM »

yeah that's pretty good. but ours is better. haha

notice when that artist does three point perspective though, they don't keep the vertical eye line at a 90 degree angle from the horizon. notice how it distorts the point of view & add more of a lens effect? and like anything else effects are good so long as you don't over use them. that's why i'd keep the two at right angles.

Jessica* · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 13, 2009, 12:33 PM »

ah man this is brilliant! Thanks for putting this up guys!

Red · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 15, 2009, 01:07 PM »

modified the first post to include the interior perspective introoooo

mechanical · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 15, 2009, 09:58 PM »

okay idk maybe this is a weird question but

does anyone have tips for working with perspective on scenes that don't actually have any buildings, geometric solids etc
basically I am talking about landscapes and such where you only have earth, sky and foliage (trees etc) besides your subject. I was about to do some stuff with animal characters in a forest type setting, right now I'm about to do a baboony guy talking to some rabbits in a wooded area I realized their eye level line is going to be different. I am fine with 'normal' perspective, I just didn't know if there's anything special to think about with more organic scenes

Red · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 15, 2009, 10:11 PM »

Quote from: mechanical on Apr 15, 2009, 09:58 PM

okay idk maybe this is a weird question but

does anyone have tips for working with perspective on scenes that don't actually have any buildings, geometric solids etc
basically I am talking about landscapes and such where you only have earth, sky and foliage (trees etc) besides your subject. I was about to do some stuff with animal characters in a forest type setting, right now I'm about to do a baboony guy talking to some rabbits in a wooded area I realized their eye level line is going to be different. I am fine with 'normal' perspective, I just didn't know if there's anything special to think about with more organic scenes

oooh I was going to do something like this next. My main point was going to be to use boxes at first, and fit your organic shapes into them. For instance, I mentioned in the tutorials that anything draw on the same line ( take a look at the last pic here http://totallylamerobot.com/void/perspectivetutorial.jpg ) is the same height, so you could make some rough boxes in proper perspective and fit your trees inside to make them a consistent height. Just imagine that all organic objects are boxes while you are sketching, and once everything is good perspective wise, then draw in the organic object. I'll make a visual tutorial for that next, I hope that made sense for now.

Kuro · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 15, 2009, 10:12 PM »

Quote from: mechanical on Apr 15, 2009, 09:58 PM

okay idk maybe this is a weird question but

does anyone have tips for working with perspective on scenes that don't actually have any buildings, geometric solids etc
basically I am talking about landscapes and such where you only have earth, sky and foliage (trees etc) besides your subject.

actually, i started & got about half way through this tutorial. let me get back to it & i'll post it soon.

Red · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 15, 2009, 10:15 PM »

Quote from: Kuro on Apr 15, 2009, 10:12 PM

Quote from: mechanical on Apr 15, 2009, 09:58 PM
okay idk maybe this is a weird question but

does anyone have tips for working with perspective on scenes that don't actually have any buildings, geometric solids etc
basically I am talking about landscapes and such where you only have earth, sky and foliage (trees etc) besides your subject.

actually, i started & got about half way through this tutorial. let me get back to it & i'll post it soon.

hahaha we have poor communication skills dude. I can't wait to see it though!

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