Doodle Dan vs. Veronika Roch

Doodle Dan vs. Veronika Roch

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by Sirius

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JAZ
Artist
114 comments
# 21   Posted: Apr 27 2011, 12:06 PM
Sean: I like your lines in a lot of places, they tend to flow nicely. I think you could improve them a lot however, if you would just fix your blacks in photoshop. If you don't know how, here's a tutorial: http://www.jmort.com/tutorials/scanning.html
Go to the bottom where it says "Clean up the scan with a Levels Adjustment" and read from there. Since you have colors you may not want to go as dramatic as straight up black and white, but play around with it and try to find something that looks good.

Sirius: Nice coloring. Sucks that you only have one page though. I wish you would have uploaded your unfinished pages too, to give us an idea of your story. One small thing in the second panel bothers me. It's her hand. It should be sitting on top of her arm instead of melting into it.

DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix)
Artist
463 comments
# 20   Posted: Apr 25 2011, 10:42 AM
Mark - No big deal. Time management is I think first and foremost one of the most important lessons VOID can help a young artist learn. The industry is full of nothing but deadlines (just ask my buddies Sheldon, James, and Galvo, they'll tell you all about how fun deadlines are).... and I think time management is the absolute first thing that should be on artist's minds. If you can develop a system that works for you for getting pages done, and do it that way every time from then on out, you will be good to go! Ponbiki told me once his method was to have a calendar. One day would be layout the comic. Next day would be pencil pages 1-5. next day 6-10. Then next 2 days would be inking those first 5, then the last 5. Then the last 3 days would be colors and lettering. It might have not been EXACTLY like that but it was close. He took apart the major pieces of the comic making process and divided it up into easier to handle pieces. That way, should disaster strike half way through, and you lose some days, you have way more done after day 4 then had you done each page individually start to finish, if that makes sense.

Sirius
Artist
35 comments
# 19   Posted: Apr 24 2011, 04:01 PM
Thanks for all the comments so far.  I need to work on my time management skills, and I mean hardcore.  But yeah, next time won't be even close to a default, I just need some time to get my bearings and I'll be back in this!

anonymous
91 comments
# 18   Posted: Apr 24 2011, 08:17 AM
I love it when neither person defaults; good job guys. Sirius I have to agree with Dan when stating that if you would have just completed the line work and the text, that could have been the difference between a loss and a win. Sean, I feel that this statement applies to you in a way as well. By not coloring the comic, you could have spent more time on the text and maybe even the inking and clean-up too.

DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix)
Artist
463 comments
# 17   Posted: Apr 23 2011, 06:41 PM
Psycho Sean - I think you will definitely pull off this win, but had Sirius turned in a complete work, I do not think this would have been as cut and dry. I am very happy that you turned in a complete comic. In the future however, i think watching out for a few things could help you greatly. These are small things too, so they won;t take up TOO much more of your time while executing the comic, but they will do a LOT for overall presentation. Forgive me if they have already been said. For starters, I notice you don't use too much digital manipulation with your work. This is fine, but if you are not going to add lettering afterwards, then you really need to be more conscious of the text that is portrayed. If the reader can't follow the text because the handwriting is very sloppy and hard to read, eventually they will stop trying. In some cases, the art tells enough of the story as to make up for it, but in this case, shaky and wavy lines, as well as pencils still showing, make everything look distorted, as if I am looking through a marbled piece of glass at the scene, and it is during an earthquake. The coloring helped the lines make more sense in some cases, but other times it looks like coloring was ignored or left out completely. I think that if you use a rumer when laying out text and if you work on your lines and coloring more consistently, we will see exponentially better work from you really soon! Keep it up!

Sirius -  Glad to see you did not default, even if only one page is finished. Do you finish each page completely before moving on to the next one? I feel that had you finished all of the lines and text, you could have submitted an uncolored comic, but a comic that tells a complete story. In this case, it could have meant the difference between a loss and a win. I think the coloring looks nice, however some of the colors appear too bold or dark for the scenes they are in, such as the dark blue/purple sky compared to the washed out characters, who have very defined light and shadow present on them. This suggests a lighter, brighter sky possibly. I love the coloring on Veronika's hair, however some of the detail work on the character's cloths was a little distracting, along with proportions. The stitching on Veronika's back, for example, is far off center in panel 2, and Harry's head seems far too small in most of the panels he is featured in. Small things like this can add a lot to a comic. I hope to see more from you in the future and more pages. One last thing I would look into is the shaping of your text bubbles, as the text inside seems real small, and there is a lot of white space. I think you could have gone with either slightly bigger text to fill the space better, or slightly smaller and differently shaped word balloons.

Sean Patrick Kelly
Artist
117 comments
# 16   Posted: Apr 22 2011, 01:31 PM
Well, i uploaded my pages. The bad news is there terrible. I had to actually re ink my pages so their sloppy. i didn't finish coloring the bad guys, and i rushed in the fight scene with the blood. I wish i could've done better with the dialog, i had to cut it down cause i didn't see if the word bubbles were big enough. so yea not the way to start a 3-part story arc, and i mainly apologize to mark for not giving his character a lot to say.

I promise though part two will have much needed character development, for both veronica and Dan, as well as my next opponent. Sorry guys for being overly dramatic and vulgar in the previous comment i made. I've calmed down and just need to learn to stop doing things at the last second thinking nothing gonna go wrong. I also hope their a chance for a rematch in the future mark. I gotta get to work, hope everyone has fun with my comic.

Sirius
Artist
35 comments
# 15   Posted: Apr 22 2011, 09:28 AM
Hey don't worry man, we can wait.  I should be the one apologizing for not getting much done. :/  Also since we have a bit more time, can I reup my page?  Im gonna scan it on the school comp today(My scanner takes 4-5 scans to get my whole page) and Ill be able to have a much better looking page.  I'll have it in by 3 PM EST.

Angie
Council
1937 comments
# 14   Posted: Apr 22 2011, 08:11 AM
How large are your files? If you are having upload issues it could be if all your pages exceed 250kb a piece. (never ever ever ever ever save files at "maximum quality" as it makes them all 3MB+ a piece) If you can't get them to upload email them to me and Toast

angieness@gmail.com
toast@entervoid.com

E.W. Schneider
Artist
1070 comments
# 13   Posted: Apr 22 2011, 12:51 AM
You can still upload while it's in Past Due status until tomorrow. Try to get it up.

Sean Patrick Kelly
Artist
117 comments
# 12   Posted: Apr 22 2011, 12:00 AM
NEVERMIND!!! looks like your gonna win mark, by one fucking page cause none of mine are showing up on my fucking scanner. Once again, I work my ass off and at the last second something FUCKS UP! this time my pages dont show so fuck it. 5 fucking weeks gone. This is bullshit, I'm fucking so pissed right. Not only do i lose AGAIN, but i default without any choice. Plus I don't have anything to show to you guys who were nice enough to care to wanna read my crap. sorry mark, at least you aren't a loser like me and can actually put up a page. Sorry i wasted your time. I guess life telling me to give up. I gonna go find something to take my mind off this shit. sorry guys. FUCK

Sirius
Artist
35 comments
# 11   Posted: Apr 21 2011, 10:04 PM
Uploaded my page. :(  Next time I won't do this, and I won't make excuses for myself, but I should've looked ahead of my schedule to make sure I could this without a hitch. :(  

Sirius
Artist
35 comments
# 10   Posted: Apr 21 2011, 09:09 PM
I'mma try to scan and edit the only page I have finished. :/  I can def get that in on time which is certainly better than a default (0).  So yeah...Doing that now.  Sorry to disappoint, seriously. I can tell you really wanted a good match, Psycho Sean.  

Sean Patrick Kelly
Artist
117 comments
# 9   Posted: Apr 21 2011, 11:15 AM
It's too late to extend, just get what can done. I'd rather you have something than nothing at all

E.W. Schneider
Artist
1070 comments
# 8   Posted: Apr 21 2011, 05:39 AM
Extend and do something. It's better than a default.

Sirius
Artist
35 comments
# 7   Posted: Apr 21 2011, 05:05 AM
I've got nothing done over the past month because of massive loads of schoolwork, driving lessons, and work...FUCK!  Before this ends someone tell me if its worth extending this another week?  (I have an extension) where I'm not sure whether I can get THAT much done because currently I have no access to a scanner and only one 'real' page done.  Sorry for shit like this, but that's what been happening recently (Lots of shit).

Sean Patrick Kelly
Artist
117 comments
# 6   Posted: Apr 10 2011, 10:28 AM
Mark Fillion: GOTTA GET THIS SHIT DONE!  I'm falling behind hardcore, been stuck in a rut.  I refuse to default, so look forward to my absolute best. :D
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same here!!! Had some trouble, but inking is coming out great!! Can't wait to see what you bring out Mark

Sirius
Artist
35 comments
# 5   Posted: Apr 7 2011, 09:11 AM
GOTTA GET THIS SHIT DONE!  I'm falling behind hardcore, been stuck in a rut.  I refuse to default, so look forward to my absolute best. :D

Sirius
Artist
35 comments
# 4   Posted: Mar 29 2011, 04:37 AM
Kind of glad this got extended. :)  I am going to have a slow week because I don't have enough money to buy paper when  I run out (Soon), that said...I have my concept down and some pages done. :D

Rtv!
Artist
603 comments
# 3   Posted: Mar 18 2011, 07:44 AM
Sweet match up.

Cherubas
Artist
175 comments
# 2   Posted: Mar 17 2011, 02:16 PM
This looks like it promises action. I'm excited about that.

Sirius
Artist
35 comments
# 1   Posted: Mar 17 2011, 12:23 PM
:D :D :D  Happiness.  Gonna take you (guys) for a ride.

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