Cross vs. Rtv!

Cross vs. Rtv!

by gryphon

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gryphon
Artist
69 comments
# 27  
thanks mase, thats my favorite frame also. zen.

Mase
Artist
81 comments
# 26  
Great reads, guys - this is a close one.  
Gryphon - good stuff.  Not much of a battle - more of a team-up actually - but you've got a bigger story to tell, so its cool.  I really liked the panel where Rtv first jumps out.  And yeah, James looks goofy with that 'fro.

Rtv - I love the distortions, but I think it would work better if you balanced them out with more normal shots.  And the cursing was a little distracting (Cunting door??).  Same comment as the distortions - curse words lose their sting when they're overused.  I enjoyed both - great battle.

mr. robot
Artist
133 comments
# 25  
Jeezus, this is nice. Rtv, your style is fucking amazing. All the tie-ins and everything are getting complicated, eh? Good colors and layout, Cross.

gryphon
Artist
69 comments
# 24  
yeah, sorry bout the confusion on my story, this one actually occurs "before" the Bragg fight, to clear up any confusion. bumfukk nowhere?! hahaha, thats a new one for me, thanks man. zen.

Rtv!
Artist
603 comments
# 23  
*"wich i SHOULD fukking do" i ment

Rtv!
Artist
603 comments
# 22  
Gryph, this really came out of bumfukk nowhere!
The colours and stuff, great! love how you're taking the story, i can follow it, maybe it's cuz of i read the Bragg thing first.
You did the Rtv! with blade thing, w00t! Great action

Thanx for the comments and crits. I do possess SOME skill of proportion but somewhere this/last year i kinda ' don't' think about it, wich i should fukking DO.
The cursing isn't that much given the fukked up situation?
Ok so it's a lil off..the story, i ran outta time, it would have ended awesome. But it continues in Rtv! vs Chrimnon. Unfortunatly cause of this match the match with Yoshin has lil to offer other then some rushy colours that look 'nice'  here and there...but c'mon, Caanan is my no 1 rival and most of my energy went into that. glad you still like my stuff now and then...
yeah long ass comment, limited access :(

zombi
Artist
334 comments
# 21  
i guess this is RTV's whole story then?
well... i gotta say i can make no sense of it, specially that last page. sorry dude, awesome art as always, but something is missing

DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix)
Artist
463 comments
# 20  
I think the stretched out Rtv look is on purpose, as if the camera lense was istorted. Like a fish eye lense almost. Also to show extreme camera angles better. i dig it most the time, actually.

galvo
Artist
146 comments
# 19  
cross - the colors were fucking LOVELY MAN.  Shit looked like you hand colored penciled the bitch.  Storytelling was a bit fucked, you need to learn some basic comic reading skills, you have page two kinda fucked up, you gotta remeber people read from left to right, and up to down.. so you gotta lay down yer panels accordingly.  I see you like to play it safe and use 8 panels of the same width n height in nearly every battle... you gotta switch it up man, throw some curve balls in there!  NOW, JAMES.... that nigga looked more like CROSS with bleached head on his shoulders.  Not good.

RTV- you bastard, you did it again.  Everytime i read yer shit, yer emotion burns me up man.  And its true what dan says, you just use swears to use em.  I think maybe you gotta send these to me before you post em haha, so i can fix yer grammar n shit haha.  ANyways, that fucking ciggarrette ... GODAMN aamzing.
My only beef with you, is that you need to learn yer godamn porportions man, you can't be fucking with the matrix till you know what it is.  And at this point, you seem to have little or no skills in human porportion.


the win goes to rtv, for his fucking ciggarette butt.

SilverLimit
Artist
186 comments
# 18  
Gryph: Dude, I fucking LOVED the action in this one. THe head smashing thing was killer (same with that character, Jules) My only real gripe is this James subplot thing which is kinda getting corny. Plus, James looked a little Super-Saijin if you get my drift. Other then that, great work, I see some awsome improvement.

RTV; badass angles, and that distorted thing you do with your art is very stylistic. Nice effects too, the cig in particular was beautiful. My crits here are mostly with story comprehension, I had trouble telling what was going on and why. Other than that, great colors, especially.

gryphon
Artist
69 comments
# 17  
thanks for the comments yo. ok, after i battle Ashito, im gonna challenge james, and im gonna change up my usual style for drawing him (no more "Blonde Cross") and i'll recognize all his trademarks. get ready, cause that fight will be the conclusion of this chapter of Cross Battles aka "Void CROSSed." Expect some mega mecha melee mayhem. next chapter? Enter a new fighter...Kashmir. zen.

madboy
Artist
93 comments
# 16  
great job both u guys.

gryphon...great coloring as always...but i would have loved to see it inked...u know, make the blacks blacker and more solid. i think that would make all that great coloring stand out.  that's the only problem i think i have with your entry...great job

rtv...man i wished u could've colored all the pages and finished!  other than that it looked damn good.  i liked all the angles...very animated.  i had a little trouble following what was going on...but good work all together.

DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix)
Artist
463 comments
# 15  
Cross, loved the lighting in Page 2. Very cool. Especially the very top with Rtv in the air. Story WAS a LITTLE confusing at points, and I garee on the whole RTV being a nice guy thing..... a LITTLE out there, but its cool.
Only REAL gripe I have is how you draw James.... to me he just looks like Cross with blond hair..... I know you draw hair big.... but thats pretty big for James... and all his trade-marked features are missing, like his scars and earrings and all that..... to me, if I were to have seen this before any text was added... I wouldnt have known James was even in this comic.

kanishei
Artist
18 comments
# 14  
nice work you two. i have just one question; RTV: is the comic finished or are you still wroking on the last pages? just want to know.

fel/P2
Artist
276 comments
# 13  
ok i like both and have gripes about both
cross I like how you've grown since your first fight and how you link the stories together.You also had some angles i really like throughout it.
But i was more looking forward to you fighting him then him helping you out(which caught me off guard don't see rtv doing such a "nicething")and u also jump scenes with you panels leaving questions of what happened inbetween more then once like on page 2
but i still like

now rtvi like the detail you crank out, like on page 2 when hes holding the cig and you can see fingerprint on his thumb.and the coloring was nice touch.
but on some of the angles it looked like u stretch the bodies to far that and i was expecting alot more action scenes.things didn't really take off till the last page but I know you don't have the best access to a compwith net at the moment also

gryphon
Artist
69 comments
# 12  
man, RTV!, your stuff gets better and better everytime i see it.  The line work was insane, the camera angles...insane, the coloring...insane, the effects...insane, the layout...insane, the cinematics...unbelieveable. if i could vote, id say you definitely kicked my ass. mega zen.

DEDieckmann (SkullcapComix)
Artist
463 comments
# 11  
both were awesome, though RTV!, i have to say..... the way it seemed like you were sticking curses and obsenities in just to say them... kinda wakked the dialouge....  half the time I was trying to figure out "fukking" what? "cunting" who? Like, I know Rtv's and obscene mother f*cker.... but.... kinda got in the way a little. Still loved it though. Cross, very good work. more later.

Phill
Artist
895 comments
# 10  
Both good, but I wasn't too impressed by Rtv! to be honest...

Cross: As always you do a great job of linking one of your fights to the other, no doubt about that. I really loved the line art and colors that were used for this one, defenetly something for me to admire, uh... my only problem is in the first page, storyline wise Rtv is hidden in the shadows and then in the next panel Cross has a gun up next to him... what happened bettween that? I'm going to look over that, but you pretty much get what I'm saying right? Other than that you got my vote.

Rtv!: Really good man, though... to be painfully honest I didn't like how the characters looked in this comic, they just seemed to be able to warp there limbs at will and bend them like they were rubber... This isn't too bad if you ask me seeing as how this adds a creative touch to the mix and shows a bit more originality, but for me it just looked messy, I'm pretty sure others will dissagree but that's not a concern of mine. The story was a tad more confusing... though I haven't seen to many of Rtv!'s fights as of recently, you were really good but I think this one should go to Cross.

Anywho, sorry if I seemed a bit gripy or biased, I'm just a picky person, but I did enjoy both comics guys (honest to god)! Keep it up or something?

zombi
Artist
334 comments
# 9  
i gotta say, gryphon stepped up his game many a notches!!!!! whatever tha means. dude, awesome stuff, again, the color scheme consistensy really adds flavour to your stuff. and the RTV hookup was awesome. but only gripe is that RTV's action scene enterance looked kinda constriced. but amazing job overall! now i gotta wait for rtv to finish uploading his stuff

gryphon
Artist
69 comments
# 8  
alright!, its finally up!

Rtv!
Artist
603 comments
# 7  
Thanx for the compliment, wish my opinion was similar to my own work, still trying to back it up fully. lol
I managed to upload and mail my entry. Can't wait. :D

gryphon
Artist
69 comments
# 6  
its cool. RTV! work is always Godly. this fight'll rock. zen

Kevin Birtcher
Allfather
289 comments
# 5  
Rtv needs a few days to get to his sister's to upload, since his internet is out.

But I've seen pieces, and it's his typical goodliness

gryphon
Artist
69 comments
# 4  
Im all uploaded, hope yall enjoy

Rtv!
Artist
603 comments
# 3  
I'm picking up where i left last time. Have to.
More then 3 pages, but worth the. And i guarantee it will be MUCH better quality i hope you do the same.

gryphon
Artist
69 comments
# 2  
rematch...yeah, if you want to know how my verison of the battle's gonna go, just read the previous ones, its going in the same storyline........mega zen.

Jake
Artist
78 comments
# 1  
Oi!  Rtv has returned, good luck gents.

Comic Details -

 
Regular Match
Drawing Time: 3 weeks
Ended: Jun 26th, 2004
Votes Cast: 21
Page Views: 1338
Winner: Rtv!
 

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