2016 Invitational: Round 1 / Luca Venai vs. Mako

2016 Invitational: Round 1 — Luca Venai vs. Mako

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CryingGhosts
Artist
3 comments
# 20   Posted: Jul 6 2016, 11:35 AM
So since the second round has started now I figured I'm reupload the comic to my tumblr at a more, uh, readable size. It's still a sketchy mess, but I did touch up a few things like the font. Give it a look if you can't read the one here ^.^

http://eyesoneversurface.tumblr.com/post/147004404744/my-first-entervoid-comic-messy-and-unfinished

Ish
Artist
79 comments
# 19   Posted: Jul 4 2016, 07:42 PM
@Natamoon123 - The deadlines are horrible monsters that forgive no-one... that said, you had potential here! I really wanna see what you can do with more time!

@CryingGhosts - By the sketches, this looks like it could have been amazing! Alas, the deadlines... Still, I hope next comic you manage to do more!

Kozispoon
Artist
1211 comments
# 18   Posted: Jul 3 2016, 07:49 PM
NATAMOON123- I was so surprised to see this was your comic, I had to do a doubletake to make sure I got the name right. After seeing the level of detail you put into all the pin-ups you were sharing in the discord chat and art of your character in your art streams, its genuinely baffling to see how this comic turned out. It almost seems like it was drawn by a different person. Chance encounters and excuses to make stuff happen in a comic with someone else's character definitely has to be the toughest thing about battling on void, even for vets. Best of luck on the next battle though!

CRYINGGHOSTS- The sizing on some of these pages threw me for a loop. some were so small I had to really zoom in to read the pixelated word bubbles. Definitely something to bone up on for the future in regards to readability. You had some really great layouts and thumbnails going on which seems like a promise of good things to come given more time to work on pages. I wish you luck on your next rumble now that you got the taste of it.

MyHatsEatPeople
Artist
408 comments
# 17   Posted: Jul 3 2016, 07:09 PM
Natamoon: *deletes all the stuff of me being a bit overboard*

I think this could be better, better luck next time. also release the wang we can handle it this is EnterVOID.


Ghosts: *zooms in on phone x10000* right there we go. Though unfinished this comic has a lot of promise! even from your sketches I can see the strong dynamics and you've got equally strong panel composition. For what I could read of the story this was super, I just wish I was able to read more of it. Look forward to seeing more of your work in the future!

mortooncian
Artist
111 comments
# 16   Posted: Jul 1 2016, 08:43 AM
Nata: Mm... Like others have said, I really wish you had put more effort into this. If you were able to full color it, you could have spent more time developing a story, or making your linework more solid. I'll give you that it's your first round, so a one-week deadline was a lot to deal with! So good job, for doing your first void comic; sorry if I'm a little harsh!

Ghosts: I love the story you went with, for a first round; it shows your character, shows the opponent, and shows their reaction to entering the city-- like an intro comic with a confrontation involved. Nicely packaged, short n simple! I enjoy the gestures and dynamic angles.

Of course you suffered from some completion and sizing issues, but if you go on to round 2, if you manage your time well you will be a very imposing competitor!

Sean
Artist
384 comments
# 15   Posted: Jun 29 2016, 12:40 PM
Natamoon123 - Love your character, very interesting and unique design. My biggest pet peeve with this comic was the inconsistent page sizes. Make sure you keep everything at a proper page size next time around. Also, might I recommend using a digital font instead of handwriting. I think it would make your dialogue and narrative much more legible in the future.

CryingGhosts - For just posting sketches and thumbnails I could still tell this had the making to become a great comic. It has interesting paneling and got right down to the action. I hope to see you post more on this site and hopefully finish up this comic at some point!

Natamoon123
Artist
8 comments
# 14   Posted: Jun 29 2016, 11:47 AM
elge: Natamoon: Where's the dick.
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i was going to put it. but I didnt want to in case ppl got naughty ideas>< i'll put it next time around. I realy wish I actually put more detail into a lot of my stuff since I had to rush the last two pages in a day because of time. ( i'll get better i promise.)

Flutterbyes
Artist
299 comments
# 13   Posted: Jun 29 2016, 10:21 AM
I dub this match Display Size Goldilocks. Resizing can be tricky, but you really gotta make sure to double check the full display size before you upload! If you happen to have Photoshop in some form, "Save for web and devices" is your friend! Heck, I don't even work in PS, but I happen to have it and I like to use it specifically for that.

You also both address the elephant in the room right from the get go.

Natamoon, you seem to have some issues with catching uncolored bits, which is in part just a part of the process, but also something worsened by the fact that your inking has lots of whispy traily thin lines that create extra little pockets that paint buckets miss. Maybe mess with your pressure settings so the minimum thickness isn't so thin. Digital inking often involves a lot of overshooting, and you should do your best to correct those so you have lines that end where they should. Fixing where lines end can get a little messy in a digital medium, but it's better to get the hang of it than letting lines just trail off and overlap like that. If you're working in Sai or CSP, maybe you should try to use vector mode for your lines: in CSP, at least, there's a special eraser that erases whole vector lines right up until they intersect with another, which is perfect for tidying up overlapping lines.

Storywise, I can't really read the punchline, but it's that she's crotch height, right? That second page has the makings of a nice establishing shot. It could have even started the comic, I think.

CryingGhosts, your comic gets harder and harder to read, which is a real shame because, while a lot of it is still very rough, those gestures have a good presence, even when the comic is barely visible and I'm squinting. The more finished look of page 2, on the other hand, comes off a little bare and flat. I hope to see more of the power of your gestures in a more visible and finished comic someday!

Rainbow Ichi
Artist
18 comments
# 12   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 10:33 PM
Natamoon 123:

-image dimension too big got lost
- panels sorta mislead my reading sequence :(
- text could have been typed instead of handwritten
- good coloring but image is clearly rushed, as some are just bucket-ed.
- lol, the confrontation's still funny xD

CryingGhosts:

- file dimension too small, couldn't read anything :(
- missing a scene/background/setup
- some of the gesture poses are great!
- didn't know what happened.

Dechado
Artist
255 comments
# 11   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 06:39 PM
Natamoon: Why do your pages gradually grow in size as we read them?
Color is nice, but your backgrounds are confusing. You drew a beautiful building in pannel 4 of page 2, and then we just have cardboard boxes. I understand it being a one weeker, but it just looks weird, don't you think? Either way, good job and welcome to VOID. I wanna see more of your naked alien.

CryingGhosts: I'm gonna point out the obvious and comment on the size of the pages. They are a tad too small.
From what I could read though, the first two pages are beautifully inked! A shame you couldn't do that with the rest of them, but we all know how hard 1 weekers are. Good job!

Dechado
Artist
255 comments
# 10   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 06:38 PM
Natamoon: Where's the dick.

Stormcrow
Artist
68 comments
# 9   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 06:06 PM
Aw shoot, both of these characters are awfully cool, I like this matchup!

@Natamoon123:
Damn, Luca is VERY tall, I hadn't realized that at all! While I agree with other people that the story arc felt a little strangely paced, I laughed at the way you decided to end this particular fight XD
I like your style, and I like how it lets you switch back and forth between 'normal' and 'chibi' for comedic effect; that's a lot of fun, and given how you decided to handle this battle, I feel like it really enhanced things! Your colors are really nice and vibrant, though the shading feels a little smudgy in places; that might just be because of the zoom though. One thing I would recommend is working a little on your neatness; again, I know it's probably due to use getting the extreme closeup on pages 2-3, but there are some little spots without color and it's a bit distracting!
That aside, I love how distinct Luca is in terms of character design and I can't wait to see more of him and learn more about his personality!

@CryingGhosts:
Man, I'm totally crying that things ended up getting a bit timecrunched, what I can see of the fight looks like you really went for it in terms of dynamic poses and layouts and I wish I could have seen it at full completion! I really like the written part of it too, at least in terms of what I can read; your character's outlook on things is intriguing and I really want to see more. One thing I would recommend--if this wasn't just placeholder text that was meant to change later--is a different font choice; what you're using right now feels kind of jarring in that it just looks too much like it's coming straight from Microsoft Word.
Overall you're showing a ton of potential, I really hope we get to see another fight from you with a longer deadline, where we can see this work at full completion and size!

Futreblot
Artist
91 comments
# 8   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 05:16 PM
@Natamoon123 really fun read, everything felt a bit rushed, but three pages isn't the easiest to pace in my opinion. I think you did really well. I'm really picky about sound affect, and usually I like to listen to a sound and write out what I hear if the sound doesn't have a written form that's already accepted. I recommended studying onomatopoeia, that's what you call it when you mimic a sound.

@CryingGhosts I can't read most of the last two pages. :< but from what I could read I was really excited! even in such a rough form I can really appreciate how this comic progresses. I've always been conservative with frame setup personally but even with your very exciting frame shapes I was able to read the visual flow very easily.

awesome! your on my hitlist!

Natamoon123
Artist
8 comments
# 7   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 03:24 PM
Thanks everyone for liking my comic it was rushed a bit due to time. The page sizes however i was having problems with because i put them in the reccomended size but i guess it stil came out too large. Ill try to get that fixed. The background crosshatching was a vrush that i thought woukd look more textured. But ill keep that in mind.

@Cryingghosts i really wish that fight scene was longer id love to see it. But i understand the time thing lol i had to rush mine

CryingGhosts
Artist
3 comments
# 6   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 02:59 PM
Haha wow thank you all so much for the feedback!! Unfortunately life ( and my own poor time management) got in the way so I really didn't manage to get the comic to the stage of completion that I would have liked! I ended up 100% down to the wire so I didn't get to double check the sizes and everything to make sure I had exported it properly. Turns out I didn't and it's very hard to read!! This is my first time doing something like this so I've still got a lot to learn re: making a good looking completed comic. In the future I'll give myself more then 5 minutes to export and upload ^.^;

@Natamoon123: your comic is super cute and I love how you drew Mako! Personally I had a lot of fun with your plant boy, he has such an interesting design! Drawing all those arms was a bit of a challenge though haha!

KarmaLarma
Artist
61 comments
# 5   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 02:05 PM
Page sizes were already mentioned so

Natamoon: I really like your style so I hope we get more finished stuff from you in the future! My main problem with the visuals was on page 2. I imagine that crosshatching effect in the back is a pre-rendered texture or some kind of brush? You should try just adding the texture by doing your own cross hatching, that way you can include it on characters and such to make it blend together better! Otherwise, it looks odd against your airbrushed shading since you didn't use that style anywhere else.

CryingGhost: You look like you had an actiony fight really planned out, but you might want to work on the clarity of your movements. For a lot of parts, I can't really tell what they're doing, though a closer look might have helped with that.

MaxieWest
Artist
34 comments
# 4   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 01:18 PM
@Natamoon123; Careful about your page sizes it was a bit hard to navigate your comic because of them. I love that you attempted backgrounds in your cmic as well as using color. However I think you may have put a little too much texture over your backgrounds they don't mesh very well with your characters any more so it feels like theres a bit of dissonance between the two of them.

@CryingGhosts; Be careful about your page sizes as well your comic was small and thus a bit hard to follow story and art wise. There were many sections that I felt were probably really gorgeous but were just to small to clearly tell what I was seeing. The latter pages do look more sketchy though? Be sure to work on your time management skills!

Fox
Artist
25 comments
# 3   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 10:40 AM
@Natamoon - I love the chibi Luca on page 1! The arc is kind of abrupt though, I did laugh at the punchline. ^.^

@CryingGhosts - Awesome dynamic paneling. It's kind of hard to read, but it looks like there's a ton of potential here!

Rose
Web Dev
1180 comments
# 2   Posted: Jun 28 2016, 08:41 AM
@Natamoon123: Aaaaah! Those giant pages! I'm not sure exactly what's going on exactly, but I love how you ended your comic. I wasn't expecting that, and it made me giggle. You've got a really cute style, both in art and writing, and I want to see you make more comics and improve! This comic felt kinda rough. I don't know if it was time management or if you just need more practice, but either way VOID is the perfect place to improve those skills! It's been fun having you around so far, so I hope you stay even after the tournament is over! <3

@CryingGhosts: You had the opposite problem from Nata D: I can hardly read that tiny text! Make sure to look at your pages at "Actual Size" or "100%" or whatever your art program calls it to make sure everything looks right before you upload to the site. From what I was able to make out, I think you had an interesting story going, so I just recommend that you double check the sizes in the future and make sure you give yourself more time to finish your work so it's not all rough like this one was. Stick around VOID, and we'll make sure you get on the right path to fulfilling your full potential! :D

Julz
Artist
411 comments
# 1   Posted: Jun 22 2016, 04:14 PM
Alright cool. I have high hopes for you two!! Show us what you can do!

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Ended: Jul 4th, 2016
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