Agent Black vs. Skye
Critiques & Comments
# 32
Posted:
Jun 8 2010, 02:02 PM
I'll be eagerly awaiting your next character, Solly - great job, both of you. Such a close match. Congrats Monday for the win!
# 31
Posted:
Jun 8 2010, 08:26 AM
Yooo thank you monday for the match, it was fun and a good refresher. I always enjoy reading your comics, so I look forward to the conclusion of Black's story.
Thanks to everybody for reading and for the in-depth critiques!
Thanks to everybody for reading and for the in-depth critiques!
# 30
Posted:
Jun 8 2010, 12:19 AM
Thanks everyone for taking the time to read and critique these. I think I got the rust out of my system with this battle and I hopefully should be well on my way to writing the last parts of Black's story. It's not saying much now, but hopefully in due time I will put this story to a close and finally finish what I started.
Arach, Crimson, Pong, Rofl, Angie ya'll gve some awesome advice so I'll hope to implement them in the next round.
And Solly, thanks for making this happen I feel pretty bad that the insanity levels in my fight didn't match yours. And really I hope to challenge you again on this. In my mind, I feel like you got a victory over me on a lot of things which is probably why this fight was so damn close.
Till next.
Arach, Crimson, Pong, Rofl, Angie ya'll gve some awesome advice so I'll hope to implement them in the next round.
And Solly, thanks for making this happen I feel pretty bad that the insanity levels in my fight didn't match yours. And really I hope to challenge you again on this. In my mind, I feel like you got a victory over me on a lot of things which is probably why this fight was so damn close.
Till next.
# 29
Posted:
Jun 5 2010, 09:36 AM
Monday-This was quite a bit easier to understand, I think the digital text is helping with that quite a bit. Be careful with your text alignment though since your sometimes got too close to the edges of the word bubbles/narration boxes. The only thing that really bothered me is you have gray toning throughout most of the comic and then it kind of disappears on page 10 which makes it look like you ran out of time.
Solly-The coloring was very nice but I kind of wish you'd just done black and white and devoted more time to the lineart since the lineart you have here feels kind of rushed. You have a very good eye for shots and the action felt very natural and smooth. But I have to echo Pong about the lack of sound effects. Everything felt very still and silent without a hint of any sound effects which kind of hurt the impact of the action.
Had Solly's lineart been more solid I probably would have given this to him.
Solly-The coloring was very nice but I kind of wish you'd just done black and white and devoted more time to the lineart since the lineart you have here feels kind of rushed. You have a very good eye for shots and the action felt very natural and smooth. But I have to echo Pong about the lack of sound effects. Everything felt very still and silent without a hint of any sound effects which kind of hurt the impact of the action.
Had Solly's lineart been more solid I probably would have given this to him.
# 28
Posted:
Jun 2 2010, 10:48 AM
I gave you guys 50/50. Solly you'd have been the clear winner if you had done a few things differently, which I'll mentioned below.
Monday: Everything you always have done well you did pretty well in this comic. The action is actiony, the sound effects are sound effective, the story is fun. But the art was inconsistent, there were some anatomy issues that had they been consistent through the comic I would chalk up to style, but they weren't so I won't while overall the story was fun, it lacked tension. There just wasn't enough climbing action before the climax.
Solly: On the other hand, you did a great job of building tension, right up through the climax, it was very fun to read all the way through. The art was pretty good, the pacing was good.I would have given this to you, except for a few things that really bugged me. You gave no sound effects. Your action was too still most of the time - people's poses are too relaxed, instead of tight or tensioned even in the middle of action. Some gutter space would have really helped too, especially considering the lack of white or pure black in your coloring.
So it's split even for me between you two.
Monday: Everything you always have done well you did pretty well in this comic. The action is actiony, the sound effects are sound effective, the story is fun. But the art was inconsistent, there were some anatomy issues that had they been consistent through the comic I would chalk up to style, but they weren't so I won't while overall the story was fun, it lacked tension. There just wasn't enough climbing action before the climax.
Solly: On the other hand, you did a great job of building tension, right up through the climax, it was very fun to read all the way through. The art was pretty good, the pacing was good.I would have given this to you, except for a few things that really bugged me. You gave no sound effects. Your action was too still most of the time - people's poses are too relaxed, instead of tight or tensioned even in the middle of action. Some gutter space would have really helped too, especially considering the lack of white or pure black in your coloring.
So it's split even for me between you two.
# 27
Posted:
Jun 2 2010, 03:20 AM
My biggest issue with your battle Pio is that you really let me down on the Skye fighting back bit. You made Black overpower him, There was barely any fight in Skye. It was a real let down man. Other than that, it was good.
As for Solly everything I wanted to say has been said by Rofl. Also PLEASE PLEASE DO MORE COMICS ON HERE.
I always look forward to your art.
As for Solly everything I wanted to say has been said by Rofl. Also PLEASE PLEASE DO MORE COMICS ON HERE.
I always look forward to your art.
# 26
Posted:
Jun 2 2010, 01:48 AM
Monday: You get nothing cause you're a tremendous faggot and I hate you.
(Naw, you already got my critique personally, that's more than I usually put on here.)
Solly: First off, Willis. Because seriously, Willis. He was the best surprise of this entire thing and I hope he's somewhere in every comic you do from here until the end of eternity, even if they become really existential Ingmar Bergman style comics and he doesn't fit, put him there. I can't stress this enough.
Secondly,
Naw naw, YOU should do this more often. I'm so glad to see you back on here doing comics. If Skye dies, please make another character. Don't leave us again for so long, please. 2 years is just too much.
Your comic is a really great read here. Your lack of text made it feel very noir? I suppose you could say, but at the same time, I think sound-effects would have been a good decision for the purpose of the action. However, I also wasn't a fan of the font you used. It looked like one that came with your computer. I recommend trying out Blambot. ( http://www.blambot.com/fonts_dialogue.shtml ) There's a lot of free fonts there and they would work better than the ones you were working with, I think.
I really liked that you made the effort to color everything and still accomplish all those pages. However, your coloring is lacking a significant punch, I think. Your coloring job is lacking contrast and the shadows and lights aren't very bold enough, it just feels kind of weak with the samey tones working there. You should practice a little more with the tool you were using also, because you used it a little too much and it didn't hit hard enough, I think. Maybe try solid colors, it might work a little more effectively next time?
First page, I think you should have probably drawn the faces on the bodies lying on the ground (unless of course he's in a black-person-mannequin factory, which I suppose is a good place for a gun-duel) since it wouldn't have taken all that much effort to dab skin color on the face and maybe some white for the shirt or whatever, and would have looked better in the long run. That car is also looking mighty tiny in the second panel. It's like a clown-car-limousine.
I think the second page could have used a little more shine on the gun, it's nice technically, but making it colored the same as everyone's skin and clothes would have made it stand out, same goes for all the other weapons in this comic. I don't get quite what blowing up the window would have done to the sniper (maybe the debris would hang in the air long enough to render her useless?) , but it looks cool all the same.
Page three, I'm a little bothered by the positioning of the machine gunner. I think you would be better off moving the machine gunner more to the right off the screen and showing the blasts of the gun, it would give more oomph I think. Black's cover also looks tremendously weak. It needs more ricochets and bullet strikes against his cover to make the impact there, because it just looks like some dust was kicked up and I suppose that's kind of a problem. I can see you drew some of the blasts on his cover, but it's not a high-impact color like a yellow or red, so it's not actually noticeable unless you study the page. When Black is shooting the swordsman with the pistol, the lack of gun-blast makes it look fairly weak too. There's bullets flying, but it's not enough. Also, this is a minor point, but when Black kills the swordsman, I wasn't immediately aware of why his sword was suddenly shorter. More debris from the sword below the gun blast would have been useful there.
Page four, my only problem is Willis' gun not giving off a blast doesn't quite mesh with the page as a whole, since everyone else has a blast.
Page five is fine by me. Page six, my only suggestion is that I think you should have added some markers on the road, just a few white stripes would have been nice.
Page seven, I really like how you handled the action of cargirl turning the wheel. It stands out. Snipergirl's gun however could use more definition to it, it's literally the same dark grey everywhere and it's kind of hard to make out.
Your fight scene between Black and Skye was really great and I enjoyed it. It could have used some more action lines or dynamic angles to it however. Technically good, but more punch could have been thrown in.
Overall, this comic was fantastic. You need more work on your colors, but it was a fantastic read and both you and Monday are at a stalemate I'd say. Keep up the good work and once again, make another character if Skye dies, please.
(Naw, you already got my critique personally, that's more than I usually put on here.)
Solly: First off, Willis. Because seriously, Willis. He was the best surprise of this entire thing and I hope he's somewhere in every comic you do from here until the end of eternity, even if they become really existential Ingmar Bergman style comics and he doesn't fit, put him there. I can't stress this enough.
Secondly,
Solly: I find it interesting that your side says SAVE SELF and mine KILL YOURSELF
Wonderful battle! We should do this more often
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Naw naw, YOU should do this more often. I'm so glad to see you back on here doing comics. If Skye dies, please make another character. Don't leave us again for so long, please. 2 years is just too much.
Your comic is a really great read here. Your lack of text made it feel very noir? I suppose you could say, but at the same time, I think sound-effects would have been a good decision for the purpose of the action. However, I also wasn't a fan of the font you used. It looked like one that came with your computer. I recommend trying out Blambot. ( http://www.blambot.com/fonts_dialogue.shtml ) There's a lot of free fonts there and they would work better than the ones you were working with, I think.
I really liked that you made the effort to color everything and still accomplish all those pages. However, your coloring is lacking a significant punch, I think. Your coloring job is lacking contrast and the shadows and lights aren't very bold enough, it just feels kind of weak with the samey tones working there. You should practice a little more with the tool you were using also, because you used it a little too much and it didn't hit hard enough, I think. Maybe try solid colors, it might work a little more effectively next time?
First page, I think you should have probably drawn the faces on the bodies lying on the ground (unless of course he's in a black-person-mannequin factory, which I suppose is a good place for a gun-duel) since it wouldn't have taken all that much effort to dab skin color on the face and maybe some white for the shirt or whatever, and would have looked better in the long run. That car is also looking mighty tiny in the second panel. It's like a clown-car-limousine.
I think the second page could have used a little more shine on the gun, it's nice technically, but making it colored the same as everyone's skin and clothes would have made it stand out, same goes for all the other weapons in this comic. I don't get quite what blowing up the window would have done to the sniper (maybe the debris would hang in the air long enough to render her useless?) , but it looks cool all the same.
Page three, I'm a little bothered by the positioning of the machine gunner. I think you would be better off moving the machine gunner more to the right off the screen and showing the blasts of the gun, it would give more oomph I think. Black's cover also looks tremendously weak. It needs more ricochets and bullet strikes against his cover to make the impact there, because it just looks like some dust was kicked up and I suppose that's kind of a problem. I can see you drew some of the blasts on his cover, but it's not a high-impact color like a yellow or red, so it's not actually noticeable unless you study the page. When Black is shooting the swordsman with the pistol, the lack of gun-blast makes it look fairly weak too. There's bullets flying, but it's not enough. Also, this is a minor point, but when Black kills the swordsman, I wasn't immediately aware of why his sword was suddenly shorter. More debris from the sword below the gun blast would have been useful there.
Page four, my only problem is Willis' gun not giving off a blast doesn't quite mesh with the page as a whole, since everyone else has a blast.
Page five is fine by me. Page six, my only suggestion is that I think you should have added some markers on the road, just a few white stripes would have been nice.
Page seven, I really like how you handled the action of cargirl turning the wheel. It stands out. Snipergirl's gun however could use more definition to it, it's literally the same dark grey everywhere and it's kind of hard to make out.
Your fight scene between Black and Skye was really great and I enjoyed it. It could have used some more action lines or dynamic angles to it however. Technically good, but more punch could have been thrown in.
Overall, this comic was fantastic. You need more work on your colors, but it was a fantastic read and both you and Monday are at a stalemate I'd say. Keep up the good work and once again, make another character if Skye dies, please.
# 25
Posted:
Jun 1 2010, 06:20 PM
Solly: Colors were sometimes muddy but worked, sometimes muddy and didn't work, and sometimes straight-up beautiful. The loose splashing of color works for me except for one place: your smoke effects. Ironic? See if you can give your art an extra coat of highlight. Cool Willis cameo!
Monday: I always enjoy your battles, and the cast shadow in the beginning is lovely. However, without fail I always have to go back and read the comic a second time, just to understand what's going on. It's so hard to tell all the characters apart. That's just me being personally overwhelmed by the style. Sound comic as usual, except for the text. I enjoy handwritten and drawn speech bubbles over path tool and typefont (especially that goddamn COMIC SANS). But, I value consistency over anything.
I notice the hand-drawn text is all real time characters speaking, and the overlayed text is narration. You're too technically proficient to be doing that by accident. Was it a conscious decision to switch from one to the other, or just easier? It sticks out to me as "tacked-on", as if it was far less important to you than the rest of the comic. We know that's not true, but that's how it LOOKS. If you did it the hard way and drew in the narration by hand rather than stuck it on in photoshop, I would have been totally sucked in.
Monday: I always enjoy your battles, and the cast shadow in the beginning is lovely. However, without fail I always have to go back and read the comic a second time, just to understand what's going on. It's so hard to tell all the characters apart. That's just me being personally overwhelmed by the style. Sound comic as usual, except for the text. I enjoy handwritten and drawn speech bubbles over path tool and typefont (especially that goddamn COMIC SANS). But, I value consistency over anything.
I notice the hand-drawn text is all real time characters speaking, and the overlayed text is narration. You're too technically proficient to be doing that by accident. Was it a conscious decision to switch from one to the other, or just easier? It sticks out to me as "tacked-on", as if it was far less important to you than the rest of the comic. We know that's not true, but that's how it LOOKS. If you did it the hard way and drew in the narration by hand rather than stuck it on in photoshop, I would have been totally sucked in.
# 24
Posted:
Jun 1 2010, 04:00 PM
Aaaaahhh I think I died on the inside a little while voting, both comics kicked ass and I like both characters TT.TT Sucks that one is gonna be K.O.ed.
# 23
Posted:
Jun 1 2010, 02:51 PM
Solly- heaven or hell we need to form a super team- the winner can be the leader of it.
# 22
Posted:
Jun 1 2010, 02:48 PM
There can be only fun! er one!
# 21
Posted:
Jun 1 2010, 02:43 PM
I find it interesting that your side says SAVE SELF and mine KILL YOURSELF
Wonderful battle! We should do this more often
Wonderful battle! We should do this more often
# 20
Posted:
Jun 1 2010, 10:17 AM
HAHAHAHHAHAh ! A fucking BATTLESHIP ! Man this shit is awesome ! Thanks for the awesome battle ! I'll say more once this is over but I'm definitely taken by surprise by your output- thanks !
# 19
Posted:
Jun 1 2010, 09:01 AM
Yeah at first I was kinda def blown we'd have to lose one of you guys, but then i realized...yeah you can introduce us to another awesome character.
I was def torn, both are excellent in their own way. Point goes to BOTH!
great job, guys.
I was def torn, both are excellent in their own way. Point goes to BOTH!
great job, guys.
# 18
Posted:
Jun 1 2010, 08:06 AM
Wow D:
I love both, I can't rate one higher than the other because their strengths and faults cancel each other out <_>;
This makes me want to nut up and figure out Agent Black's story more, though..!
I love both, I can't rate one higher than the other because their strengths and faults cancel each other out <_>;
This makes me want to nut up and figure out Agent Black's story more, though..!
# 17
Posted:
May 31 2010, 11:31 PM
Uploaded, oh boy oh boy :<
# 16
Posted:
May 31 2010, 09:17 PM
This battle is just dripping anticipation.
# 15
Posted:
May 31 2010, 08:44 AM
Someone die already.
# 14
Posted:
May 26 2010, 05:11 AM
This sucks so badly it's awesome
wAIt, a DEATHMATCH??? You niggas out yer damn minds???
Only six more days!!!
wAIt, a DEATHMATCH??? You niggas out yer damn minds???
Only six more days!!!
# 13
Posted:
May 18 2010, 09:33 AM
You know despite us losing someone, this is going to be a dope rundown.
I'm almost sure Ill have to read these a couple times before grasping it.
best of luck, people
I'm almost sure Ill have to read these a couple times before grasping it.
best of luck, people
# 12
Posted:
May 18 2010, 12:48 AM
Looks like a Game Over for someone... Good Luck XD
# 11
Posted:
May 17 2010, 03:28 PM
GO SOLLY!
# 10
Posted:
May 17 2010, 01:18 PM
Deeeaaaath maaatch~
# 9
Posted:
May 17 2010, 12:30 PM
can't wait to see what monday churns out!
# 8
Posted:
May 17 2010, 12:25 PM
oh, a death match.
# 7
Posted:
May 17 2010, 11:47 AM
And this is how we do it.
# 6
Posted:
May 17 2010, 07:02 AM
*ba-dump ba-dump* o___o;
# 5
Posted:
May 17 2010, 06:24 AM
Helllls yeah!
# 4
Posted:
May 17 2010, 06:04 AM
Hitmen VS battle!!!Yesss!!!i hope there will be blood!
Good luck to both!
Good luck to both!
# 3
Posted:
May 17 2010, 03:13 AM
Yessss... if your character ain't getting marked, he should be gambling with his life!
# 2
Posted:
May 17 2010, 02:17 AM
FUUUUUUUU---!
# 1
Posted:
May 17 2010, 01:58 AM
Thank you for playing.
Death Match
Drawing Time:
2 weeks
Ended:
Jun 7th, 2010
Votes Cast:
49
Page Views:
3510
Winner:
Monday
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