both fights were awesome!
i think mjo rocked me a little harder with the entertainment and story. but the quality for mossy was just awesome....so cute >
good luck to both of you!
Mjolinir vs. Mossy Mushroom
Critiques & Comments
# 19
Posted:
Sep 22 2005, 07:03 PM
# 18
Posted:
Sep 22 2005, 04:01 PM
i think you both did a good job!
# 17
Posted:
Sep 18 2005, 11:22 PM
go mossy go!
# 16
Posted:
Sep 18 2005, 07:29 PM
I have to agree with everyone\'s statements about my performance in this match thus far.
I am really not sure how to script battles, or comics in general. Mossy has turned out to be an almost overwhelming challenge because of her size. It\'s something I just didn\'t think about when I was creating her. Now I kind of regret it - but as Gabe said: It\'s good for the practice.
I need to work on perspective. It\'s my weakest point.
I am really not sure how to script battles, or comics in general. Mossy has turned out to be an almost overwhelming challenge because of her size. It\'s something I just didn\'t think about when I was creating her. Now I kind of regret it - but as Gabe said: It\'s good for the practice.
I need to work on perspective. It\'s my weakest point.
# 15
Posted:
Sep 18 2005, 05:39 PM
Elisha >
I think this shows perfectly your history and artistic goals... solid portrait/storybook art, but not really comicy. I docked you for that actually, relying so heavilly on narration (I did it myself in Pulpo and I\'m really not happy with the outcome, so I couldn\'t argue if anyone were to call me a hypocrite).
Just two gripes in the art - the perspective on Page 1 which you\'re already aware of, and Mjolnir\'s lost skin tones on Page 3. Everything else looks great, especially the shot of Mossy on Page 2, the \'tee hee hee\' on 3, and Mjolnir\'s anger immediately after that.
The mushrooms sprouting on Mjolnir was amusing enough to score a chuckle out of me, I have to admit. However, I remember a similar ending to one of Skrewts battles and I have to wonder what\'s going on with that... If you think your characters are under-powered, then choose a different type of confrontation with your opponents... or perhaps you\'re not sure how to script the battles to make your characters a winner? Not that they need to come out victorious, but I am curious
I think this shows perfectly your history and artistic goals... solid portrait/storybook art, but not really comicy. I docked you for that actually, relying so heavilly on narration (I did it myself in Pulpo and I\'m really not happy with the outcome, so I couldn\'t argue if anyone were to call me a hypocrite).
Just two gripes in the art - the perspective on Page 1 which you\'re already aware of, and Mjolnir\'s lost skin tones on Page 3. Everything else looks great, especially the shot of Mossy on Page 2, the \'tee hee hee\' on 3, and Mjolnir\'s anger immediately after that.
The mushrooms sprouting on Mjolnir was amusing enough to score a chuckle out of me, I have to admit. However, I remember a similar ending to one of Skrewts battles and I have to wonder what\'s going on with that... If you think your characters are under-powered, then choose a different type of confrontation with your opponents... or perhaps you\'re not sure how to script the battles to make your characters a winner? Not that they need to come out victorious, but I am curious
# 14
Posted:
Sep 18 2005, 05:19 PM
Wei >
If it were me, I woulda just cropped the first few panels offa Page 1 so no one would have been the wiser that there something that didn\'t get done. As is, it\'s a fine beginning with Mossy sitting there.
The foot panel use some work as others have suggested. My suggestion would be to toss in some \'speed lines\' for emphasis but toss in Mossy as well, dodging to the side, so that it\'s clear only the maggots were sqashed and not her as well.
I think that\'s the only problem I have with the panel-work although there are a few other things overall that bother me...
For one, the entire battle is very light. I\'d like to see some darker lines, and for you to play around with different line weights for variety.
I also thought Mossy came off as rather unintelligent, thinking he was a giant beetle. She really carried the battle with all that dialougue Perhaps since Mjolnir can\'t be understood by anyone, you could experiment with a silent battle so that the art itself has to carry the story, not the opponent or his robot.
You can see for yourself what I voted... I thought it was pretty average all-around. Nothing exceptional nor terrible, but still solid work.
If it were me, I woulda just cropped the first few panels offa Page 1 so no one would have been the wiser that there something that didn\'t get done. As is, it\'s a fine beginning with Mossy sitting there.
The foot panel use some work as others have suggested. My suggestion would be to toss in some \'speed lines\' for emphasis but toss in Mossy as well, dodging to the side, so that it\'s clear only the maggots were sqashed and not her as well.
I think that\'s the only problem I have with the panel-work although there are a few other things overall that bother me...
For one, the entire battle is very light. I\'d like to see some darker lines, and for you to play around with different line weights for variety.
I also thought Mossy came off as rather unintelligent, thinking he was a giant beetle. She really carried the battle with all that dialougue Perhaps since Mjolnir can\'t be understood by anyone, you could experiment with a silent battle so that the art itself has to carry the story, not the opponent or his robot.
You can see for yourself what I voted... I thought it was pretty average all-around. Nothing exceptional nor terrible, but still solid work.
# 13
Posted:
Sep 17 2005, 10:54 PM
I think what I want to say has already been said. I had kinda expected more from this, I thought both were kinda..boring. Sorry to be harsh guys, but both were really, really predictable, and I thought more would be done to make these fights a little bit crazier. The art was respectable in both, it was just that nothing was really done with them. Hope to see more in the future though, you\'re both damn talented and you know it!!
# 12
Posted:
Sep 17 2005, 09:55 PM
Wei, I dig your style man, and inks help out a lot. Still, I think you could have tightened your entry up some more, starting by cropping the top of the first page. Second, I\'d say to clean up your speech bubbles, because they look a bit messy as well. The actual art itself is on par with your other stuff, but I still say that you need to add more backgrounds to your work. Solid entry.
Raven, I really like what you\'ve pulled out for this one. The colors were amazingly soft and yet definitive, and added a great deal of character to your work. However, it looks like you didn\'t quite finish, and seeing a more muscle-defined Mjolinir would have been better, in my opinion. And yes, we all need to work on our perspective, but props to you for taking the risk of trying it out.
Votes to Mossy.
Raven, I really like what you\'ve pulled out for this one. The colors were amazingly soft and yet definitive, and added a great deal of character to your work. However, it looks like you didn\'t quite finish, and seeing a more muscle-defined Mjolinir would have been better, in my opinion. And yes, we all need to work on our perspective, but props to you for taking the risk of trying it out.
Votes to Mossy.
# 11
Posted:
Sep 17 2005, 01:57 PM
Bwa ? Usually people crap out the last few panels of a fight when they\'re struck for time...did you work backwards or something ??
Wei : It\'s good to see inks in your work, they\'re definately a strong point in your style. It\'s also nice to see that illustrative quality you\'ve always had a knack for, but a few of your panels would demand a bit more dynamic, particularly in motion and impact (like Mjol stepping on the maggots, or tossing Mossy into the nest). A bit more OOMF into those \'in between\' moments would make it look more like there\'s something HAPPENING as opposed to looking like the figures were just sitting there for 30 minutes for you to sketch out.
NR : While you get the vote for quality a few steps above Wei, I had to grade you lower for Creativity and Entertainment. It might just be me, but I REALLY hate \"play by play\" narratives in fights, ESPECIALLY when it\'s out of context. It\'s like, you\'re supposed to illustrate the actions with your DRAWINGS, not a few sentences. It kind of takes away the magic of seeing someone get PUNCHED IN THE FACE when you\'re instead drawn to a box that SAYS \"OH ! And now he got punched in the face !\". I also have to bonk you for losing Mjol\'s muscle definition at the end and all the empty space in your panelwork, but those still aren\'t as detracting as the scripting.
In short, points to Wei for Creativity and Entertainment, but NR still wins a pack of tissues because VOID CARES. *thumbs*
Wei : It\'s good to see inks in your work, they\'re definately a strong point in your style. It\'s also nice to see that illustrative quality you\'ve always had a knack for, but a few of your panels would demand a bit more dynamic, particularly in motion and impact (like Mjol stepping on the maggots, or tossing Mossy into the nest). A bit more OOMF into those \'in between\' moments would make it look more like there\'s something HAPPENING as opposed to looking like the figures were just sitting there for 30 minutes for you to sketch out.
NR : While you get the vote for quality a few steps above Wei, I had to grade you lower for Creativity and Entertainment. It might just be me, but I REALLY hate \"play by play\" narratives in fights, ESPECIALLY when it\'s out of context. It\'s like, you\'re supposed to illustrate the actions with your DRAWINGS, not a few sentences. It kind of takes away the magic of seeing someone get PUNCHED IN THE FACE when you\'re instead drawn to a box that SAYS \"OH ! And now he got punched in the face !\". I also have to bonk you for losing Mjol\'s muscle definition at the end and all the empty space in your panelwork, but those still aren\'t as detracting as the scripting.
In short, points to Wei for Creativity and Entertainment, but NR still wins a pack of tissues because VOID CARES. *thumbs*
# 10
Posted:
Sep 17 2005, 10:55 AM
I gave NR the vote in quality, the colors added alot and were very fitting. Creativity was a draw, both comics approached the fight in the same way and were both effective. As for the Entertainment vote, I gave that to Wei. I felt more of a resolution with his and no one had to die. Good job by both participants. JV
# 9
Posted:
Sep 17 2005, 03:08 AM
Yes, color is always good. The Mossy comic gets my vote, it was short and though the story was lacking depth, it was entertaining.
Mjolinir comic: you\'re ahead of your time wei. I mean those empty panels at the begining - really built up the suspense. Unfortunately I think that such an avante garde aproach will go unnapreciated by most. Regardless of your forward thinking, the ending seemed - well inconclusive - both comic\'s endings seemed to lack a definitive \"this is the conclusion everything\'s wrapped up solid\" feel, but yours somehow seemed less conclusive. I\'m thinking you just ran out of time, as my logic would imply after reading the above comments.
Mjolinir comic: you\'re ahead of your time wei. I mean those empty panels at the begining - really built up the suspense. Unfortunately I think that such an avante garde aproach will go unnapreciated by most. Regardless of your forward thinking, the ending seemed - well inconclusive - both comic\'s endings seemed to lack a definitive \"this is the conclusion everything\'s wrapped up solid\" feel, but yours somehow seemed less conclusive. I\'m thinking you just ran out of time, as my logic would imply after reading the above comments.
# 8
Posted:
Sep 17 2005, 01:35 AM
thanks Anymoo,I\'m pleased that you found my fight more entertaining than my last...... the panels are empty because it\'s unfinished....if you read above you can read me whining about my far too heavy work schedule the last few weeks...I was unable to make the time to fully complete the fight
# 7
Posted:
Sep 17 2005, 01:23 AM
The second Mjolinir battle I read turned out to be slightly more enjoyable--maybe \'cause this one was a little more playful than the last. Wei, I like the solidity of your characters, even though it still reminds me of Bart Sears\' \"Brutes and Babes,\" where everybody\'s exceptionally cut. Also, what the heck happened with the first page, and how the first five panels are showing as a blank? I didn\'t really understand that. O_o
Northern Raven, your colors add a lot of weight to the images of the comic. While I felt I was more reading a storybook, and less a comic, it moved along quickly, and you had a really cool rendering of Mjolinir. Also, I like your softer, smoother linework--good job, both of you.
Northern Raven, your colors add a lot of weight to the images of the comic. While I felt I was more reading a storybook, and less a comic, it moved along quickly, and you had a really cool rendering of Mjolinir. Also, I like your softer, smoother linework--good job, both of you.
# 6
Posted:
Sep 17 2005, 01:01 AM
LOL!...well you got me beat with colours and scripting....panels are better too.....I think we both overcame the scripting difficulties....you far better than me...you took the ridiculousness of the pairing to its naturally humorous conclusion....I wish I had one more day to work on this......I had to rush thru the inks at the end....but ah well...I did as much as I could.....despite all the overtime at work I managed to submit...and I\'m at least happy with that and after a small rant of fury I feel much better about the whole thing
# 5
Posted:
Sep 14 2005, 08:44 AM
I don\'t really understand all the defaulting going on lately. Even if you havn\'t finished the minimum page requirement, submitting something is better than nothing. Don\'t worry Wei you can count on me to have something finished and submitted for our match!
Just a note about it though - perspective is NOT my friend. Good grief I\'m terrible at it!
Just a note about it though - perspective is NOT my friend. Good grief I\'m terrible at it!
# 4
Posted:
Sep 8 2005, 01:20 AM
Ah, Beauty V.S. the Beast
# 3
Posted:
Sep 3 2005, 07:07 PM
I want this to be a lesson thru the doing for everyone.....I have been at work every single freakin day for the last three weeks with no immediate end in sight..I am cranky ...I am frustrated....I am so freakin tired....and I am still gonna submit on time....I can\'t speak as to the quality.....that\'s fer you to decide.... but it will be given as much effort as I can and it will be submitted as was agreed upon with northern raven
# 2
Posted:
Sep 1 2005, 09:33 PM
this gonna be a tough one to script
# 1
Posted:
Aug 26 2005, 09:30 PM
It\'s the battle of \"NAME THAT START WITH AN M!\"
Muahhahahahahhah! Go Mossy!
...wait Mjolinir doesn\'t have a nose, does he? ah w/e...
Muahhahahahahhah! Go Mossy!
...wait Mjolinir doesn\'t have a nose, does he? ah w/e...
Regular Match
Drawing Time:
3 weeks
Ended:
Sep 24th, 2005
Votes Cast:
43
Page Views:
1212
Winner:
ESG
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